NEW inZOI CONCERNS! Lead Producer Kjun Speaks Out

[@dejancevu]

I LOVE the idea of SLOW PACE game where you have a more realistic feel to do a lot on a day or drive around or going for a walk in a realistic time frame. BUT i think its best to have both options to choose from: slow time (way more slower then the sims) and an option or slider to let the game time a bit faster

[@ADMNtek]

one of the things i did in Sims 4 was increase day length to 60 minutes (default is 25 minutes) and it feel so much better and the game even runs better.

[@great1670]

I hope they make some npc Inzoi wear clothing or items for the seasons, like winter clothing for winter and rain coats and umbrella for rainy days. Hope having cold breath in winter and shivering without winter clothes is implemented.

[@warzshadow9701]

I like longer days so you can actually do more than work, eat and sleep.

[@Enzo-bx4nz]

It wouldn't be realistic though

[@Cibbic]

​@@Enzo-bx4nzit's a simulation game, people want options regardless whether it's real or not.

[@anothert2627]

I think an option for people to choose the length of the day would be nice

[@dizzykitteh]

​@@Enzo-bx4nz So... you play lifesims to emulate your real life? Booooooo

[@Enzo-bx4nz]

@@dizzykitteh IT WAS A JOKE omg

[@williamwatson4354]

With the collapse of Life by You, I'm hopeful for inZoi.

[@Elwaves2925]

Paralives is my big hope right now. I want Inzoi to be great too but I have major concerns about the company behind it regarding microtransactions and ll that crap.

[@theblacksheep00]

I hope for inZoi now as well as Life by You was SADLY CANCELLED😔, the art style of Paralives makes me claustrophobic

[@Grace_Orchidd]

frrr

[@ianheart5587]

don't worry, we have modders

[@ElaGanda-d2i]

@@theblacksheep00 Same. inZOI looks amazing, Paralives looks terrible -,-

[@amplifiedemotions994]

Kjun is being EXTREMELY smart here, in my opinion...not only he's asking questions and engaging with future players, it's also educating them on how game developement works, and makes sure to be very straightforward in explaining that if you want X it will affect Y, and will result in Z. Because most players don't know how games actually work, and many fail to understand that yes, we have powerful machines in our hands at this time but they still can't handle EVERYTHING at once. Sadly it's one of the reasons why I think Life By You was ultimately cancelled... people expected too much.

[@saulghim2661]

You're right, I absolutely love the fact that he's transparent about the realities and costs of implementing the things the players want. Or teaching them axioms of game development, and why some things that players might think they want, might not actually be what it seems. Hopefully people recognize that, and when they don't always get what they want, results in acceptance and understanding. A reciprocated transparency and respect will go a long way, and hopefully encourage the devs to stay this way.

[@fullmoon-ena]

i honestly love slow paced games… the reason why i quit so many life sim games or any games with times is because it’s too fast for me and it makes me severely anxious. this includes stardew, coral island, etc. i like it slow because i feel like i can walk away from the computer and i won’t miss too much or panic about being late to things

[@jammjumble9928]

@@fullmoon-ena literalllyyyy. Stardew valley was one of the most stressful games I’ve played. I like fast paced games but a life sim should feel like it’s going at your own pace. I find the fast passage of time a little depressing too lol.

[@williamwatson4354]

@@fullmoon-ena coral island is supposed to be a cozy game. It's anything but.

[@dan-bo9pq]

@@williamwatson4354 have you tried to make the days longer (in Coral island) it helped me a lot

[@Adinamai]

The only way for me to be able to play stardew is through cheats that allow slowing down the time

[@jessicam.7101]

I just bought Coral Island and I'm enjoying it but I agree it does move a little fast. I also don't always know what I'm meant to do, like how do I get storage and there/s so much trash to cleanup. SV has always stressed me out too much too

[@ifu138]

it's kind of funny that this game already has cc creators planning how to make money off of it, imagine if the company just forbids paid mods

[@hellopixxie]

@@ifu138 THIS!! I was like jeez the game isn’t even close to release yet and people are already planning on how to paywall content. 🫠

[@canariawing]

and if they do forbid paid mods, they will be cracking down on it knowing krafton lol

[@kyoyo9350]

So what if they do? EA disallowed paid mods and yet we still have paid mods. It's not the legal slam dunk people seem to think it is which is why these companies only go after large projects like entire fan games. Publishers don't even have any legal ground if the modder is selling their own meshes and doesn't use the games marketing.

[@haroldfranklin3670]

As long as mods from lovers lab are available and allowed please take my money 💰 🤑

[@badutspringer2022]

literally trying to recreate the ea business model of milking people lmao. sims is the only game series i've played where the modding scene is so heavily monetized

[@birksche]

my heart skipped a beat when i read your title, i thought the game was in trouble😂I am so looking forward to Inzoi😍

[@kennaelpis]

people thinking they would actually play with more than 8 floors is crazy. a 150 skyscraper should 100% have load screens maybe 4 floors per load or something. I don't think people understand how gaming engines work with your computer. not to mention how rare the resources are that create computers. we're at a point where what we can potentially create digitally can't become reality because of resource scarcity.

[@sheep1ewe]

Yes, but My 7 year old computer could easily mange that. However the problem i hawe is not the entire floor structure, but the possibility to add in towers, i hawe no problem whatsoever doing in full sandbox games like CoE or the Bethesda games by using TES (it must not be in real time whan the base game is running if one think about it, beside those who does affect the carracters daily life like in the sims, which obviously need to, but major superstructures does not nessesary need to be i think) on my computer, but i imagine it may be on console.

[@kennaelpis]

@@sheep1ewe i guarantee your 7 year old computer can't handle that lol delulu

[@sheep1ewe]

@@kennaelpis I ment no actual offense by thet Your criticism is valid, i think 4, 6 or 8 floors will do, at least for me, but honestly based on my own experience i think those things are also related to how the program code or scripts are done, i seen in other games that if we set the same limit of maximum polygons, if there is certan types of flaws it may cause A memory issues which will significaly slow down the wole process and also may cause instability and crashes, B or may cause the processor to run very hot until it start to bottleneck (not as common but i seen it happen). If we compare the Betesda Creation Engine with UE5 is my practical experience that there seem to be significaly less such flaws in the UE engine which means it will also free up both of those if the settings wehre the same. One funny solution somebody suggested was bulk building blocks which serves just as a visual filler like LEGO so one can leave those 8 floors empty and the building floor used is the only one actualy populated. I don't know if that would work, but it could possibly be one way to go around it. I think a lot of the polygon issues will be "automaticaly" solved whan the models are finaly optimised, which means we are going to free up a lot more "computer power" in the final game when it release. It is fine by me if the base game is locked to those cubes it is in Sims4, just as long i can change those as i please within the set limitations of the maximum cube instead of a fixed one, Sims3 for example could do that. It is still possible to create giant redwood tress and things like that, the issue of cutting will only be seen whan one zoom out on the worldmap and if one are playing inside the loot cube they will just look like giant treetrunks in S4, so i think that will work fine. At least i would be totaly fine with that.

[@Merti_23]

I can't wait when Inzoi finally comes out 😭😭😭

[@grazynawolska8160]

My worry is that inZOI is a sim creator simulator lacking gameplay the same way Sims4 is often called buildmode simulator becsuse thats where it excels while still lacking gameplay. Despite everything, gameplay should be #1 concern for a game.

[@pinky_pepper]

i have the same concerns about inzoi because when a game comes out and everyone's like "omg it's so pretty!!" chances are that the gameplay isn't actually that great and aesthetics are the only selling point. no man's sky being one example, altho i hear it's improved since release i feel unique gameplay is something a ts clone needs to succeed. obviously a ts clone improving on past ts titles with a massive jump like ts1 -> ts2 is unrealistic to expect especially of an indie dev but even a larger company considering how much work went into ts2. but if ts clones don't stray far away from usual sims gameplay, then there's not much to offer and people would just go back to old sims games for a ts4 alternative. changing up the formula is a huge risk though! so i'd get why that would be avoided. inzoi does change it up a lot, but i really don't like the focus on realism. like those days sound wayyy too long lol, i feel it would be boring. realistic stuff is charming, but imo the gameplay loop takes priority

[@Spitsonyou]

Nah sims 4 was just a mess. It was planned to be a online game but was changed at the last min late in development. But instead of starting over from scratch, EA decided to just launch the game in it's unfinished statw. That's why sims 4 feels like it's lacking in gameplay. The game engine was designed for something else entirely so they can't code everything they would like to in the game.

[@ej13012010]

I swear sims 4 made us worry so much about other simulations but its good because we know what we want

[@gummitheguppy5901]

@@pinky_pepper i get what you mean, abt the last part though, the reason they chose longer days was bc they asked the community what they'd prefer, and i believe the consensus was longer than the sims, but give players the choice. Imo, i think shorter days are boring, as it's just shower -> work -> eat -> sleep -> repeat with no time for festivals or any other fun stuff that's in the sims, since the gameplay loop isnt rlly built for that. There's no free time unless you skip work which sucks.

[@leocutie9419]

I think driving in the game is so immersive, I really like the idea of it. Not just watching your zoi drive but to be in control of the vehicle. I’d also love buses and taxis(:

[@drakedge2000]

One of the things that upsets me with the Sims 4 is just how FAST a day goes by. You don't have enough time to get anything done - I think having a longer day is a good thing.

[@user-Zer0Views112]

I agree! I’d say have every hour in game be 5 to 15 minutes irl rather than every day 24 minutes long. Or heck even have an adjustable time length for your experience

[@user-Zer0Views112]

@@wildcat002 really? Could I get a link?

[@drakedge2000]

@@wildcat002 Fair but those are mods, not the base game / intention of the game.

[@JesusAcosta-hc8fs]

It would be cool if he could do airport travel if a inzoi wants to travel you can go into a airport and fly but of course go into load when you board the plane maybe idk

[@JesusAcosta-hc8fs]

Hmmm also about the driving how about adding bikes

[@sheep1ewe]

@@JesusAcosta-hc8fs Honestly i don't think adding in bikes would be too much trouble if they are implemented like the sims but better, it is basicaly just speeding up walking and adding the animation and physics of the caracter ridning a bike instead of walking, so i think that one would be much easier i would not be suprised if they allready plan to do so.

[@allvibezonly1587]

I think a cutscene is fine and players can book a flight online and it shows on the calendar 🗓️

[@Aloysius_OHare]

I love how cute he is. "Kjun's Concerns" that is brilliant and adorable.

[@heartsDmise]

There are definitely a lot of games where the devs reach out to their audience to get their thoughts. This is mostly something that happens with indie games though

[@aleeka99]

I’m not bothered about unlimited floors in a house 3/4 more than enough

[@aleeka99]

I think if it’s going to affect other game play or we’d have less objects then I don’t need it! Not a priority

[@aleeka99]

I’m really excited for this!! Let’s all remember how sims 4 was when it came out - inzoi can update and add more stuff in as the customers expand as well.

[@xlightable]

In the Sims, there's a limit of 4 floors (+basement) and I have difficulties giving commands to the Sims to go to the upper floors. I had cases of babies needing help on the upper floors and no adult would get the command to get there. I think there should be a limit on the number of floors but with the possibility to add 2 floors above the limit if they are empty (decorative).

[@aleeka99]

I think some people are asking for too much 😅

[@anothert2627]

Yeah ,i just want quality ,not quantity ,cause then would be again a disaster like the sims

[@MewDenise]

Absolutly. That's why I put realistic wishes on their discord. If inzoi is a success, they can add stuff in expansions

[@NiceDiggz]

Ppl always ask for everything and get overhyped then hate it cause it's not what they wanted instead of actually seeing what it is

[@anothert2627]

@@NiceDiggz true that ,but admit that sims is very lazy when it comes to packs ,like would've hurt to add an underwater world for mermaids for more gameplay instead of rabbit holes ,those rabbit holes are the most lazy ass shit ever. If they wanna make a good game i hope they give quality content with good gameplay

[@anothert2627]

@ConversasNaSelva yeah sure or maybe i want gameplay ,it's not about imagination

[@VaughanDavies]

Great video, one thing kept sticking in my head as I watched. You kept mentioning how the InZOI devs are listening to the audience and taking feedback directly is something you'd never seen much of before. I get that, a lot of companies don't. But it was funny to me because a game that sold 10m copies last year, Baldur's Gate 3, was heavily, and I do mean HEAVILY, reliant on early access feedback. So many changes were made to game design because of feedback they got directly from players, and indirectly through tracking what people did at certain parts of the game, how they interacted with it, what choices they made, etc. I'm glad to see the devs of InZOI are taking this route. Its something I hope a lot more developers start doing. I know early access is going to be incredibly important for InZOI.

[@chifuyuberet]

I'm glad that the devs are open to feedback, but I'm a little afraid there will be an overwhelming amount of features for them to work on. Also, I think that it may make the game worse if they're focusing on too many things at once. It's not bad to have a set amount of features and perfect them.

[@maycherryblossoms]

Devs know how to sort through all sorts of feedback and pick out which is most useful :) no need to worry!! :)

[@TheNoobAlchemist]

Yes, please continue to cover Kjun’s concerns. It is very informative.😊

[@halodeer]

Its funny that they ask these questions because I've never thought about them before (even being able to drive a car is something that's never crossed my mind!) It's really cool that they ask but I also hope they don't bite off more than they can chew. I would much rather have a sims alternative that's close to the real thing and not something incredibly detailed that they will have a harder time delivering. I also don't like the idea of super long days as a generational player. I want to play with a longer, more realistic lifespan (where the zois/sims live for more days) so having ~1 hour representing a day means it will take me like 40-50 hours for one generation from start to finish. Not to mention playing multiple households or save files... I just don't have that kind of time ; ;

[@kyubuuu]

@@halodeer absolutely agree! I think the 96 minutes is very long and would prefer that 1 day is maybe 30 minutes max. I think it would probably better to make longer and adjustable lifespans (so ppl who prefer a slower gameplay also have enough time) and also add options for fast traveling (like the Subway stations in TS3 that basically teleport your sim across your map). My worry is that if everything takes way to long and is to detailled (like the way to work) the game will get boring and maybe even furstrating quickly

[@lisabet_]

I fear this initiative "Kjun's Concerns" will make the devs shoot themselves on the foot, people with absolutely no knowledge of game developing are asking for things incredibly hard to achieve or outright impossible, people will end up disappointed when their idea of what's better doesn't make it to the final game, either that or the devs will waste time and money trying to please everyone instead of focusing on making the game the best it can be.

[@maycherryblossoms]

lol devs know which feedback is useful to them and which is not... you don't need to worry. lmao.

[@zalronwow7222]

For the driving, do whatever they can perfect at the start then add self driving or other options later as a DLC or something that would allow them to focus on that aspect.

[@MewDenise]

Time of day needs to make sense around the time it takes to get to places around town. And if work is from 8-16, do you actually wanna be with your zoi at work for 8 irl hours?

[@abdulearrington6572]

I’m a builder and 4 with a basement is great I’ll sacrifice floors for stability which after full release they add on those options when game is optimized too expand or skyscrapers ext

[@sheep1ewe]

As long as the loot size is not fixed as it is in the Sim4 i am ok with that, but it could be a maximum size of say equal to the 64x64 or something like that. The roof of the "cubes" used in S4 are ok by me, they are after all only seen if one make things like truly giant trees and things like that and zoom out to the worldmap, but thay are just seen as giant treetrunks when one are playing the carracters, so i think that would work, but it would be nice to hawe the possibility to add in towerstructures and things like that in the future for better visual dynamics of buildings, but as You said, that can wait until they hawe the basegame finished.

[@Jenna_To0ls]

modders complaining about the lack of paywall mods is bad imo. making mods for a game shouldnt be your source of income... you should be making mods because you enjoy the game and want to share your creativity and ideas with other people... ive had a bit of experience making sims 4cc and i think that people putting prices on that stuff is a terrible idea... people should he happy about the canvas feature and its vast amount of integration... i think that donations could be a nice option but straight up paywalled cc shouldnt be allowed!!

[@FriedFreezer]

Would love to see more coverage on this

[@RedDeadImpala]

I think the auto drive is the way to go. But have outside elements cause different outcomes. Like rain/snow might cause a wreck, or how good your karma is or luck or if the city crime is set to higher then that would effect it as well

[@valerielee9875]

Still feel BAD/SAD about the fall of LBY. ☹ I HOPE this game makes it. All we have now is this game to HOPE for and look forward to as well as Para lives. Last I heard the team Crafton was doing ok well with this game. I wish the team well with this game. It looks pretty good so far. The Specs are pretty high though. If this game goes into early access hopefully when the team/devs are ready for it to. I MAY HAVE to up-grade my pc. Its cool you got to try though. Ty for this video. Take care. 👍✌

[@bether2game797]

This game is so beautiful! I really hope it's so fun!

[@valerielee9875]

Awsome about the cars for this game too. Cars is a MUST. HOPE that all works out too. 👍

[@L1FEISSTRANGEL0VER]

I’m so glad u made this video since I was waiting for u to reply to it ❤ and so people will know what is going bc in in Inzoi for people that doesn’t have discord/not allowed to have it

[@heyyy7290]

Modders trying to ruin shit by paywalling as per usual… 💀 nobody forced you to mod for a living + they better be reporting that to the IRS

[@heyyy7290]

Only good thing EA has done is cracking down on these heathens… paywalling mods for a game that’s already notorious for paywalling???

[@BrotherL0VE]

So let me understand this correctly: A group of developers come together and make content. They sell said content, and you're ok with that. A different group of developers (independent) make content and sell it. This is bad to you. Why? Both are making content, both should be compensated. No one is forcing the group of devs to make games either. The real answer is that you're cheap and/or BROKE and act like you're entitled to free content when you're not. Grow up.

[@cactusbuds2979]

Jesus dude wtf is your problem, let people put a paywall on their products, they made them and worked hard on them.

[@ramonahart3918]

Enjoy calm and relaxed pace Love slider idea but slow medium and fast would work as well with less permutations

[@MewDenise]

Keep making content on this, cause I'm sure the dev team have people who watch yt videos about inzoi. People who aren't on their discord do discuss the game in comment sections that can me useful

[@togoxo]

on the Sims 4 you can also change motive decay spped per motive and time speed with MCCC and it doesnt break that much other than some day night cycle issues if you save after you played with two diffrent custom time speed.

[@kiayaoi]

25:30 i'm going to have to firmly disagree with this person's last suggestion. wanting to make money off your work is okay but ultimately it's a passion project. it shouldn't be costing you money and if it happens to that's a choice you're making for a hobby. official support for paywalled content would really turn me off from this game lmao, it wouldn't create a modding community it would turn the game into a virtual mall like second life

[@Mindy14]

Inzoi looks amazing, how good of a pc will you need to run it though? It seems like it would be graphic heavy

[@luixdr]

people spends over $1000 in Sims 4 DLC, they can buy a good PC too

[@vyruuz]

@@luixdr real

[@Mindy14]

@@luixdr Wow, you dont have to be rude, its my question, with an observation...I said nothing about money.

[@7thsense97]

@@luixdr exactly lmao

[@Euphoriccc]

​@@Mindy14 A pc costs.. money.

[@judialbert1349]

This was interesting. Yes, please continue to cover the concerns aspect. As for my opinions, I think 4 levels to develop and furnish per lot would be plenty for me. I like the idea of a building appearing to have additional levels, so maybe a level skip or hidden room object could be made for those levels so they don't bog down the game? If a slider is available for adjusting the length of a day, that would be awesome. I'm an avid Sims 3 player (not doing the driving) and have dabbled in the early release of Big Ambitions (doing the driving) and have discovered that I DO NOT like to drive in the game. I would rather choose point A to point B and let the car go on its own. I also like the idea of "teleporting" using an underground subway system rabbithole type of situation. Maybe walk-in subways were you can find buskers, graffiti artists, and muggers, but once you are on the train, it teleports to your destination. I'm no expert at any of this, but maybe there could be an online shopping feature where modders can set up their own "shops?" Those who want a paywall could put in a link to their Patreon (or whatever) and just have some snapshots of their wares in the shop, while others could make use of Canvas (or whatever) and have the download links to the items in their shop? I think each creator having their own shop would help them get recognition for their work. Maybe even earn badges for having a certain number of visits from players to their shops. Just an idea - like I said I'm no expert and know nothing about what it would take to program such a thing.

[@_agust.challie]

I really excited for Inzoi 😭😭😭

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

On the ‘number of floors’ thing correct me if I’m wrong, you can’t build community lots or apartments in InZoi. You can move in and decorate a single apartment unit or build and decorate a house from the ground up. But I don’t see the point of unlimited floors for one house if you can’t edit community lots or build apartment buildings.

[@emma-hx5wo]

You can build on community lots now

[@maycherryblossoms]

actually you CAN build on community lots in inZOI :) Kjun shared a city edit video where this is possible now :)

[@cryingwatercolours]

19:53 i think i like this idea tbh. watching ur character wait for the bus and following them on the route. you could stop multiple times to do different errands then keep going

[@Lisalee-xj1xb]

I'm so waiting for this game

[@moopthesims]

Paralives team is involved with their customers too. They are always receiving feedback, giving sneak peaks, always respond to consumers answers and are so transparent with people❤ I think they deserve a mention here in the comments since I think you are not following this game. Love your gameplay videos btw❤

[@ggerdagg]

I really want them to use real system of measurement so you can use game not only for playing but also for building serious projects for your home. I want something like making your dream kitchen tools and so on.

[@starsnoireart]

The time question is interesting for me. I kinda disagree that it’s a novelty thing because after playing the Sims 4 for years - I still feel like there’s not enough time in the day to do everything. I have no idea how long a sim day is, but I doubt it’s 90+ minutes. I don’t think I mind having a full day be around 96 minutes tbh. As long as there are timeskips to get through the boring parts, I’d appreciate the storytelling that a slower paced game could allow for.

[@ana-hn3zm]

love that you covered kjuns concerns, but i'm confused why you didn't add his responses to the feedback in the video? i'll leave a summary of his responses below

[@ana-hn3zm]

1. For day length the team read everyone's feedback and decided that having multiple day lengths would be best 2. For cars they decided they would have both automatic and manual with a focus on automatic 3. For building the decided that there will be unlimited floors but you will receive a warning at floor 4 that you may experience performance issues if you add more 4. Kjun hasn't yet responded to canvas concerns because its the newest one

[@acottonsock]

Unfortunately, I didn't see them when I was putting together the video as there were over 100+ chats in the Discord, but thank you for providing what Kjun ultimately replied to each concern! ❤️

[@ana-hn3zm]

@@acottonsock of course! sorry if i seemed rude im just really excited 😅

[@Bethgael]

@@ana-hn3zm I do hope they keep the autodriving. For people with some difficulties/disabilities with their hands, forced driving can make a game nigh-on unplayable, and they would be locking out older simmers and also younger simmers with conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis if they make it completely manual.

[@ana-hn3zm]

@@Bethgael from what kjun said they are definitely keeping auto drive and it’s their main focus

[@jackson22668]

12:33 As a gamer that plays a wide variety of games, I hope they do add manual driving to the game sometime in the future. Even though the roads may not be designed for manual driving due to being narrow, I feel like it is still possible because if youve played Cyberpunk 2077, some of the roads within Night City are narrow and difficult to drive around, but still possible as long as you are careful and not speeding like you do in GTA. Saying that though, I just know that if they do add manual driving, most people, including myself, will start driving like a lunatic and breaking every law known to zois just for the giggles 😂 Speaking of cars, as a car enthusiast, I hope they allow us to modify our cars too. Some basic exterior mods like colour of vehicle, wheels and wheel colour, suspension height, body kits, spoilers and wings, lights, etc. Would be awesome to see my own car in the game, or something similar to it 😬

[@NoName-ym5zj]

They need to add a functionality where you can have dummy floors that are basically empty and blacked out\ hidden, so you are not wasting computation power on them. This would allow you to build your 100 story skyscraper, but only have like 1-4 active floors. It's a good compromise IMO, but also if you can give players a switch to turn off the floor limit, that would be nice too, so those people who have insane PCs could potentially build whatever they want.

[@sheep1ewe]

Solid buildingblocks would not be hard to implement i think. I would absolutely love the idea of adding decorations to say a castle or mansion, but most of it does not realy need to be other than visaual decorations for the building to look good. After all same thing can be seen on real world buildings if one think about it.

[@jjjay0w0]

time is kind of complicated bc they have to bring co op into the convo

[@Raevenaurora0819]

I hope they definitely edit the time spent at work. Like 7 days a week from 9 am to 10pm is crazy you wouldnt have time for anything else. Maybe is they do different work times shorter shifts and hopefully days off and vacation time! Love this game and cant wait to play it!❤

[@JudkinsMatthew]

I personally would go for the current game clock, but a fast-forward options.

[@user-zf4sv8fq2v]

I like it when it's slow i don't play the sims becuause of how stressful it is feels like it is impossible to accomplish everything and you can't enjoy the gameplay

[@MewDenise]

I usually don't build more than 4 floors.

[@SketchyPiip]

I know I'm late, but something I really want for driving is practice driving and actually getting a license!

[@KarinaCermakova]

This game looks sooo fun and so cool and i just want it now!!i think has alot in it already just the fact you can drive and go to so many diffrent jobs the graphics look amazing IM IN😂❤

[@Elwaves2925]

As a builder, 4 to 5 floors (above ground and without a roof) is fine for a house IMO. That allows for everything from bungalows to mansions. Any higher and you're getting into flat/apartment territory but that depends on how they handle different lot types. I definitely wouldn't want a realtime clock based on the real world time. If you can only play at a certain time of day, you will always be stuck in that time. If it's a realtime clock independant of the real world, then it's better but they'd need to add enough activities to fill that time.

[@TannahMc8908]

I REALLY WANT TO TRY THIS GAME FOR MYSELF SOMEDAY. I HAVE SOME IDEAS ON WHAT FAMILY I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY WITH AND OTHER THINGS. AND BERESH CAN LIVE IN A HIGH RISE APARTMENT.

[@Devonsss]

For the time question, I’d honestly like a sims-esque system where you could alternate between maybe 3 different time speeds: real life time (24 hr days) for those who want to just relax and enjoy the simulation; the normal 96 minute day for practical gameplay; and a really short (possibly half-hour) option for those who like speed-running.

[@KarinaCermakova]

I think you should be able to choose if you want long days medium or short days :)

[@milliedragon4418]

As far as like driving the car I think that would be cool but I also think if you don't want to drive it and it has some kind of autopilot mode that's also would be awesome to implement.

[@bejadevu]

Todas las discusiones sobre como armar ciertas features me parecen super interesantes, lo unico con lo que no estoy de acuerdo es que haya creadores de cc queriendo hacer perma-pay-wall futuros mods/cc del juego. El juego no les pertenece asi que no me parece lo correcto que quieran ganar dinero a costa de los desarrolladores del juego.

[@bryinasia]

I mean even if Inzoi isnt the greatest or falls short of expectations, im still going to buy and support it because HOLY HELL does EA and the Sims franchise need competition. Sick of their greedy assessss

[@Sleepyhead-e8u]

For the days I think that you should be able to choose like a timezone in settings

[@hansolav5924]

it's quite simple. if the game is fully playable from beginning to end, and ENJOYABLE...stack on whatever paid extras you want. they don't matter.

[@Ackamemnon]

I love inZoi already and i just can't wait to play it.

[@sheep1ewe]

If anything i hope and pray for it will not be loused down with mandatory payed mods like all the others, but volontary donations is absolutely ok.

[@unitedstaars]

We need the ability to create our own clothes from scratch

[@k3salieri]

@@unitedstaars That sounds like an awesome feature for a game to have. But as a game developer myself that sounds like a nightmare to implement.

[@Hom-n3z]

Honestly , I feel like everyone except paralives is missing the mark. I’ve been playing the sims since I was in 5th grade . I’m 30 now , I own every expansion pack, stuff pack, etc from ‘The Sims’ to ‘Sims 4’ ; it was to the lore of the sims , the back story of the families, the drama that was left for the player to figure out . Sims 2 allowed for fans to age with families they grew to love from ‘The sims’ , Sims 3 took you to the past so you can see how it all started . The characters had distinct lives , personalities, family legacies and lineages , motives , even secrets . As a player , it really felt like you’re exploring the actual lives of the characters ; not just playing them . NOT SIMS 4 though ! They dropped the ball . But the current life simulators seem .. lifeless .

[@luciplayz1951]

4 hours of gameplay to only go through 3 ingame days is awfully slow. I'd say one ingame day should last around one hour, maybe less otherwise it becomes tedious really fast once the "new-ness" of the game wears off. I think a good call would be to have around 2/3 presets we could choose in the options instead of a slider that would add too many variables. In regards to the car issue, I don't believe we need a manual mode per se, but maybe even with automatic driving they could add things to give us consequences and choose wisely whether we want to drive to work or take a bus/cab. Like there could be a driving skill and every time our Inzoi goes anywhere it goes up but the lower it is the more prone you are to either get in an accident like crash the car or hit someone. So you'd have to actually think if you want to take the risk and drive the car or not. Maybe they could have a "training" option on the car where the Zoi only goes around the block slowly to practice their driving and as the skill goes up the less risk there is for them to crash or hit someone. Just like the Zoi getting hit by a car, as you mentioned there could be varied degrees of hurt and there could even be a luck mechanic with like charms or something similar that would give you more or less luck when it comes to road accidents :D (Sorry for the long post)

[@HilliBilliBob]

When it comes to the game clock, I think I'd prefer a slower pace. Maybe an hour and a half is a bit too long, but maybe an hour per day. When I play the sims I often feel stressed and like I'm not able to do much fun stuff because fixing need decay takes the entire in game day. I would really prefer something a bit slower or need decay to be slower.

[@HilliBilliBob]

I will say my main concerns with inzoi at the moment is the inclusion of ai generated images and the lack of interaction with babies. Ai generation is very dicey so with its inclusion I'd really like to know what they are using for it, whether or not the model they used is trained ethically or if it's something like stable diffusion. I also think the ai gen wallpaper feature is poorly implemented. I'd rather be able to upload custom textures than have ai generate something that looks like shit anyway. As for babies, from what I've seen there is barely anything to do with them and that's really immersion breaking.

[@maycherryblossoms]

@@HilliBilliBob you can upload your own images now, as well as use the AI tool

[@plutonian_accountant]

I'm used to Animal Crossing game time matching IRL which allows me to do a lot but there are times that I want to fast forward. With Sims 4, time goes by too quickly. So, for me, I would like 2-3hrs = 24hrs

[@envy2069]

Ill never understand people making others pay for assets that do not legally belong to them. Shit is whack. Im telling you paywall cc creators, yall better keep that shit over at the sims. Yall modding content that is pretty much available to anyone who has bought the game. Who do you think you are making it seem like yall creating official content for the inzoi team. If yall wanna get paid, yall better expect it from the company itself, NOT the community. Instead of paywalling content, just have a kofi site. So people can give you TIPs for your nice work. Dont put shit behind no wall.

[@budakbaongsiah]

Coming from a strategy game modding community, modders doing this on The Sims series, Skyrim, and now inZoi is completely baffling. Imagine DotA (Warcraft III) modders paywalling their mod, Counter Strike (Half Life) modders forcing Half Life players to pay them to download their game, or A Game of Thrones (Crusader Kings 2) modders locking the mod in Patreon.

[@mazzy_vc]

I really hope you don’t have to actually control the cars in the game - I bought one game where manually driving a car is essential to the game and I just couldn’t do it. Completely took the fun out of playing and I gave up on the game completely.

[@MewDenise]

All these slider and customization wishes is gonna slow the development of this game. Can't satisfy everyone. I hope the developers chooses one way and sticks to it.

[@Manterok]

At first thought, I was thinking having manual and automatic driving would be ideal, but if they're implementing car accidents, I think automatic driving would be better, because manual driving would result in too many accidents. Most people can't drive well in video games. With automatic driving they can use RNG to determine car accidents, which would make them more dynamic and less frequent so they don't become too repetitive.

[@hon3ybunny01]

I would love to be able to ride a bike to get from place to place. I would totally make my character ride a bike to work or the convenience store.

[@martinsch]

There have been a few games from bigger companies that have been highly driven by tester's feedback. The biggest one of course being Fortnite, which was supposed to be a very different game. But also smaller games like Outer Wilds have become what they are because they were developed with a heavy focus on playtesting, instead of having a fixed static plan. But yes, it's the polar opposite of what Electronic Arts does. So it's refreshing in the life sim genre (if you can even call it a genre since there really only is The Sims honestly)

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

The Sims, while being unique in having a broader focus then many simulators, isn’t the only life sims, there’s the cheapo throw aways like Denizen and games like little sim world. Plus farming sims and mining sims which are still technically sandbox-style life sims. They usually just have a set theme such as mining or farming.

[@martinsch]

@@TheDawnofVanlife There is a large difference between The Sims and Stardew Valley. And while there are thousands of similar games to Stardew Valley, there are only very few games that play like The Sims, where you can create a family and build stuff while your characters age, die and new ones get born. Really, I don't know any other game that has the combination of features that defines the genre The Sims is in. There are slightly similar games, like The Guild which has the family management but without building stuff beyond placing complete building.

[@yoonglie]

for the driving, i agree (since the roads aren't really made for it) that cars should be automatic, while having motorcycles/scooters and bikes to be manually (or automatically) driven. i like driving in games--i've literally played GTA only for driving around and exploring the world--so if i could do that in the inzoi world.. chefs kiss

[@tahaniplays]

I hope it wont be cancelled as well 😢😢😢 we lost life by you 😅hope we get this one

[@meenoir]

It seems that this game is receiving positive feedbacks, so the company will continue to support the project as long as the feedback continues positive.

[@DozerfleetProd]

Ten minutes for the play = an hour inside. That seems reasonable. And it prevents the days from being too short in which to do anything, like in The Sims 4.

[@PeninsulaCity2024]

I feel like this game can benefit from having customizable world / server settings far beyond the time settings. Full disclosure, I was playing Conan Exiles right before watching this and thought about that when concerns of the varied player experience & expectations came up in regards to the mechanics in InZoi. As for driving, I think this feature should be a less restrictive fast travel system. Just ground vehicles in general. A tiered approach that goes like: Bikes: Anywhere but not places ment for cars or are pedestrian only. Slightly faster than walking. Motorcycles / Mopeds: Similar to cars but can travel to slightly more places not availible for cars. Fastest option. Buses: Travel to specific points on the map (bus stops) but can transport bikes too. Cheapest option. Subway: Similar to buses but bypasses traffic. Balanced option. Taxis: Go anywhere where cars are allowed for a price. Potentially most expensive. Cars: Same as above but you only pay for gas usage and personalization.

[@alexdh2001]

personally 90 minute days sound like they would get extremely tedious if you were playing one character for a long time, but could be fun if you had a whole family you were trying to play at once. if i only had like two hours to game before i had work or something i would find it really annoying to only be able to play less than two days. however if the game functions well on speed 2 then maybe the 90 minute days would be fine because fast forwarding during less exciting moments would make the days take less real life time.

[@GodisGood941]

Got a 4080 super(coming from 6900xt) just for games like this. Now just to wait for it to drop.

[@lilly2379]

The concept of custom day lengths is already very prevalent in gaming. Survival games like Ark or 7 days to die have those options where you can specify how many real life minutes to an in game day. Survival games also have motives etc… I’m sure similar programming can be applied to life sims. I guess we will see!

[@xash06]

Amazing points 🎉❤

[@KennethJWhitfield]

one of my favorite games is house flipper, I would love to be a real estate agent or interior decorator,

[@ggerdagg]

I want both! Drive and not drive! Also I want to be able to use a bus! Or any public transportation

[@skill9705]

Will the game be compatible with mods?

[@daddykable13]

Personally.... 60 minutes IRL = 24hours Inzoi time, is A GREAT happy medium.... i set my Sims4 clock to that, and it just seems to be a personally perfect timeframe

[@MissisChannel]

@9:05 exactly!

[@LoRdDyY45]

I disagree with the modders tho there shouldn't be a paywall for mods thats the exact reason they get ripped in the first place

[@geargail]

Paradox - Cancelled :Life by you... and many, folks that spent a good deal of effort into that, were still processing that loss.

[@DozerfleetProd]

I'd make cars an option. For storytelling where I just need to get the Zoi somewhere quickly, I'd either teleport them or set the car to Autodrive. If it's a scene where I want control, because the driving IS the scene, then manually driving like in GTA would be the way to go. One of the biggest downsides to Sims is that it has always taken the laziest possible approach to driving.

[@redmallie9951]

It is sad that asking potential customers what they want to get in or from a product s considered a breakthrough when developing a new product / game. It's called market research and it's not new. 😃

[@ramsey6394]

she in they pocket that’s why she’s praising them for doing nothing

[@KarinaCermakova]

You better be able to drive!!! Or im done

[@KarinaCermakova]

@@lightsims8 fingers crossed! I wonder when they will let us no realese date lol i wanna no so bad lol

[@frenchfries1696]

I think 60-90 minutes a day is a good duration. I played stardew with my friends and in coop we can't pause the time. It took us 60 minutes-ish for a day and it's not even enough to do everything. Also we need to actually commute to the work place, if we use slider to make the time faster then the dev also need to make our walking pace faster. And that seems kinda hard since we need to still walk normally inside a building.

[@boo1760]

my biggest concern with inzoi is that it doesn't seem to have much like.. magic.. or silliness. like it seems very normie.

[@ifu138]

this seems to be an issue with a lot of korean games where the whole game makes everyone and everything perfect and flawlessly beautiful and #aesthetic to the point it feels generic and lifeless

[@NEENAWZ]

@@boo1760 that’s soo true. ts4 is definitely not perfect but its quirkiness adds smth to game and makes it rlly distinct. i wonder if inzoi will be able to have some kind of unique charm while being realistic at the same time

[@meenoir]

@@ifu138 Actually you can modify how your city would look like, you can set the rate to increase or decrease the health levels, crime rate, safety (how often fires will occur), you can also modify if you want your city to look dirty or clean. So not everything will look perfect unless you want to.

[@meenoir]

@@NEENAWZ They will add two features called Reputation and Karma. The feature called Reputation means that if your character does something mean (stealing money from someone, punching someone), their reputation points will be affected and their future will be affected because of that. Only individual actions can affect their reputation, however, their reputation can also affect their interactions with another character. In the other side, the feature Karma basically means that whatever the character does without someone watching, their future will still be affected.

[@Cibbic]

Did you voice the same for Paralives and life by you (before it got cancelled).