New Klein 27-in-1 Precision Screwdriver and yet another proprietary 3.5mm bit! Why no 4mm bits?

amzn.to/3O0WTH2 New Klein 27-in-1 Precision Screwdriver and yet another proprietary 3.5mm bit! That makes at least 4 different Klein bit types. Why no 4mm bits? What gives?
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[@austinbridge]

I believe you've pinned a comment of mine in a previous video regarding this... Something that I believe cannot be understated, especially with the knowledge that these precision multi-bit drivers all have unique bit sizes, is that you CANNOT buy replacement bits from Klein for these. So, if you lose or break a bit, you essentially have to purchase an entire new driver to have a complete set again.

[@EXQEX9]

Wait...what?? That's super valuable to know, thank you! Steering way clear of these things.

[@WorkingViews]

Double pass.

[@austinbridge]

*This is not to discourage people from buying these drivers or Klein in general. I use Klein tools every day as an industrial electrical and automation tech, including the tools shown in Doc's video, and will continue to do so. However, I feel that the knowledge of not being able to warranty or replace parts of tools that you purchase should be very forward and transparent. Hopefully, Klein would offer replacement bits for their own products as either warranties or a la carte, but that will most likely not happen. 🤷🏻‍♂️ At least now you know and can make an informed decision with your money✌🏻

[@k1_w3]

It’s a good thing they’re $20… very easy to replace.

[@joeyallen7927]

This is the best tool channel on KZbin. Explains the pros and cons of every tool. No BS.

[@diemman70]

He just needs some music 😂

[@thedogbarber]

Thank you Kline! I'm in the market for a good set of micro bits and drivers and making use of your own goofy proprietary size, you've easily taken your name off of the brands to look through. Thank you! Keep up the great work.

[@StephenStockman]

Proprietary bits = hard pass

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

i seriously can not comprehend why companies do this sht? there is nothinng positive about it whatsoever for the consumer. extreme hard pass for me as well, no fcking way would i ever buy something propietary like that

[@Martian74]

Leatherman have been using proprietary bits for years, I have used them with no problem and will probably get the 27 in 1 too. Just look after the tools and it isn't a problem.

[@TheMichael323]

Proprietary bits may be an annoyance but to be completely honest, this is the probably one of the most used tools on my bag. I though I lost one of the bits at a dental clinic the other day but ended up finding it the next day. Truly one of my favorite tools.

[@pierrejabbour9098]

Pb swiss also uses 3.5mm precision long bits (they call them blades) in their PB 8215 set.

[@davidasdasd4666]

For me it would be klein = hard pass

[@michaellee6868]

This is the only new Klein tool I bought. The 3.5mm bits are unfortunate, but the long and slender shaft is needed for deeply recessed screws. 4mm would require the shaft to be too big, and the handle would need to grow, too. it is already rather big for a precision screwdriver. Unlike box kits, this fits into one of the fabric pen pouches of my laptop bag.

[@michaellee6868]

This reminds me. We are all suffering tiny losses of labor, and don't think about it. I wish we had hex bits marked on all six sides!

[@RobertoVerdin-d5h]

Mi herramienta favorita Klein tools exelente video

[@backseatdriver9576]

The reason they made this screwdriver with the smaller bits is for electronic repair such as milwaukee battery chargers, electronic toys and drones, etc. The reason they have 3.5mm instead of the standard 4mm is so that the shaft can fit into those smaller spaces in electronic devices where a 4mm doesn't fit. That's it. It's a specialty tool that is useful in specific cases. Buy one and keep it in your toolbox; there will be a time you'll need it and be glad you picked it up.

[@joe_ferreira]

It looks nice, but yeah I'm done with Klein until they offer a 4mm driver. I want to carry these to use with my inline skates and they use 4mm for everything.

[@sculptormills]

I have 4 of the 27-in-drivers and they are my favorite. I love the extra long length on the shaft. So many electronics have screws in recessed holes, and this Klein driver is the only multiple bit driver that will reach into every device I have tried it on. The fact the bits are 3.5 mm doesn't bother me in the slightest because if I am not using this driver, I am using a full-size driver with standard 1 inch bits. I can't imagine ever wanting to interchange bits from one screwdriver to another. If I did, then the first screwdriver would be missing bits, and that would bother my OCD! 1 inch bits sure, but only because power tools tear them up so you have some to replace them.

[@RileyKnifeandTool]

I absolutely love Klein, but all of these proprietary bits have been a major hang up for me more than once. They seem to standardize a lot of their handles and bit holders, but why they need a new style of double ended bit with every other model has perplexed me for some time now. I was digging in my toolbox for a bit the other day and had about 10 different bags of Klein replacement bits. Most were different versions of the same bit!

[@426moparman426]

It’s a great concept, I just personally don’t have good experiences with Klein micro bits. They’ve usually started to bend with stubborn screws.

[@SavageVoyageur]

I don’t give rips if this tool has proprietary bits. It is a great tool that has just about everything in one tool.

[@rwbishop]

Proprietary bits... boo hiss.

[@codyhoward6509]

I keep both 27 in 1s in my tool pouch everyday

[@018CCHC]

Just sold me on Ifixit over Klein thank you

[@lastbesttool]

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[@Martian74]

@@lastbesttool Leatherman have been using proprietary bits for years, I have used them with no problem and will probably get the 27 in 1 too. Just look after the tools and it isn't a problem. 3.5mm means they can use a narrower shaft which allows them to access tighter areas, this is good. Others should be using the 3.5mm size as Klein hasn't patented it, plus double-sided bits are more efficient space wise.

[@shsb2355]

@@Martian74 they don’t sell the bits by themselves so you can’t replace them. Horrible design

[@rosieotis]

Impeccable timing. I have three of these parked in my Amazon wish list trying to decide which one will works best for me.

[@SpellDreams]

If you have a proper look at the flat bit, it's flatter than any other bits or even screwdrivers out there! And I bought a lot of them... Being flatter instead of conical makes it the perfect prying tool for phone. My 2 cents.

[@petermoore9504]

The bit you describe as phillips looks more like a pozidrive. Most EU and Asian screws are pozi, phillips fairly rare now. Cheers

[@Kaffeetanne]

Watching this Video i had to imagine how this thing was born. Beancounter: "Alright guys, we need a new product. Any ideas?" Jeff: "How about a Multi-bit-screwdriver?" Beancounter: "Nah, we already have a bazillion of those" Jeff: "But we make it a Precision driver - with proprietary bits! And they are also incompatible to all the other bit drivers we offer!" Beancounter "Say no more!"

[@Cavett24]

I have the klein case and it had (2) 3mm slotted but no 3.5mm slotted. I hadn't needed it until recently when I finally noticed. So I had to do the lowes shuffle even though I bought the original at home depot.

[@og_steiney]

Other 11-in-1 type screwdrivers of any kind aren't really interoperable either. None of them with a flip-bit seems to take normal bits.

[@mickbrown942]

The way big corporate makes money is nothing new and neither is proprietary product (Coke, Apple, et al) Just need a company that makes bits to fit every tool and then you’d have a proprietary bit business. It’s a vicious circle.. I own the Klein 14-1 and love it. Gotta pic you battles..

[@brendangriffin1791]

I bought a wiha tradesman & I was able th buy a complete bit set for like 12 $ if klein cared about the customer they would do the same

[@Martian74]

If you have an Apple device get the 32328 as it has their proprietary bits, if you don't have Apple devices, get the 32327 as it has more sizes of standard bits. Leatherman have been using proprietary bits for years, I have used them with no problem and will probably get the 27 in 1 too, maybe both types. Just look after the tools and it isn't a problem. 3.5mm means they can use a narrower shaft which allows them to access tighter areas, this is good. Others should be using the 3.5mm size as Klein hasn't patented it, plus double-sided bits are more efficient space wise, 26 bits in 1 tool is amazing and convenient.

[@foxwood67]

Reminds me of leatherman bits with same fact. I don’t and won’t own any.

[@pierrejabbour9098]

Can you please check if you pb swiss 3.5 mm bits fit in the Klein precision driver? You have a video on the pb swiss precision pen driver with red plastic handle which also takes 3.5mm long bits Thank you.

[@EXQEX9]

Yeah, I'm kinda done with Klein at this point. Feels like they're circling the drain here. Is there another tool with a similar form factor that uses 4mm bits?

[@atomicsmith]

Compared to the Hoto precision driver?

[@BogdanDulgheru]

Put the handle in a wise ... And leave it over night turning 🤔

[@VictorGarciaR]

Does klein make their bits? Or do they just buy them from someone else and put them in their drivers? It does feel like 4mm was an afterthought for them

[@ek8652]

This is a great question. Klein bits are not bad but they are not the best. The bits are the most important part of the tool. The handle comes second. Why? Because soft, poor fitting bits suck. The twist, bend, and damage screws easily. That’s why I now use mostly Wera and some PB Swiss stuff.

[@jasonmorgan4108]

They are a major tool company. There’s no way they didn’t know that 4mm was standard.

[@keithchavez7190]

Can you tell me who makes the prybar all the way to the right side of the screen? I am a firefighter and would like to have a 10-14 inch bar to put smaller doors or windows. Been looking around a lot and I think what you have there looks about perfect.

[@lastbesttool]

This one? amzn.to/48AHUvC

[@keithchavez7190]

Yes sir! Thank you.

[@fuloplehel]

No proprietary bits and tools for me. Even their bits are not compatible with every handle. The standard sizes are available, from all the brands. Klein is just like apple with their non standard screws, just to make our life harder. Maybe in the future every tool maker will use proprietary chucks and bits and adapters. Festool already doing this protecting the environment and bla bla. Fu3k them all.

[@Martian74]

Leatherman have been using proprietary bits for years, I have used them with no problem and will probably get the 27 in 1 too. Just look after the tools and it isn't a problem. 3.5mm means they can use a narrower shaft which allows them to access tighter areas, this is good. Others should be using the 3.5mm size as Klein hasn't patented it, plus double-sided bits are more efficient space wise.

[@sergey8692]

Интересно, автор себе оставляет все эти инструменты или берет их только на обзор? У него наверное несколько гаражей завалено инструментом))) можно раздавать нуждающимся)

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

good lord getting an incorrectly labeled tool would drive me freaking insane. i certainly wouldnt suspect the miss-label id assume its something wrong with whatever it is im working on. id be trying all sorts of different things to figure out what the hell is going on. i bet it would take me awhile to realize its actually the tool that is wrong. that is pretty F'd up for klein not making it right with you, they should be thanking you with credits or something like that, to not do anything for you is a bad look for sure

[@KingOfChins]

The usual Klein "we need another SKU" shortsighted decision on the bits

[@Martian74]

Smaller bits mean they can make the shaft narrower and that is needed sometimes to access screws.

[@bradl2636]

32327 or 32328..?

[@joe_ferreira]

The link in the description is the 32328

[@Martian74]

If you have an Apple device get the 32328, if you don't have Apple, get the 32327.

[@bradl2636]

@@Martian74 I got both 🤫

[@TheSir2005]

Because they want you to buy a entire new screwdriver when you break a bit, when they got lost or when bits are just worn down. Shitty companies which ill never buy a single thing from.

[@iangregoryhome]

Don't buy a Klein screwdriver then they will have to rethink it.

[@Martian74]

Leatherman have been using proprietary bits for years, I have used them with no problem and will probably get the 27 in 1 too. Just look after the tools and it isn't a problem.

[@diemman70]

This is exactly why I don’t buy Klein tools.

[@Sylvan_dB]

What a horrible design decision. Are all the "small bit" klein's a 3.5mm bit?

[@michaellindsay8934]

Way to gimmicky for me I prefer a single tool for a single purpose. I can drop the screwdriver and find it, if I drop one of those tiny bits around a machine it can disappear forever.

[@hcramer3641]

Good lord. How many times do you need to explain it has 3.5mm bits?!!! 99.9% of people are not going to need to swap out bits. If they need a particular bit, they will use the tool available that has that bit as an option…especially in these all I. One packages.