New KTM 890 Adventure R: 9 Things You Need To Know!

[@hm23215]

I don't care about any other feature but quickshifter and cruise control should never be behind a paywall in this day and age.

[@andrewhamilton-gill]

So you try all the extras free for a while and then you have to pay to keep them coming ! Sounds like marriage …

[@frankmalone8389]

Lol..heard that!

[@glennwr450]

Just marry the bike, be cheaper, you can ride the bike whenever you feel the urge.

[@stylesbitchly9931]

+1 Andrew!

[@ashwin0985]

;-)

[@billoldreive3628]

😜🤣👍

[@cyphertheory]

flat out one of the main reasons I would not consider buying a KTM is the software package model

[@martyn_g]

If you’re missing out on possibly the better bike based on principle, that’s your choice

[@cyphertheory]

@@martyn_g the consideration would be value for money and user experience. Buying a brand new motorcycle is much more than the utility of the vehicle - this is why brands put so much effort into show rooms and marketing.

[@martyn_g]

@@cyphertheory Maybe you missed my point. If the 890 is the better bike, then you buy the better bike. If the Tenere puts a smile on your face, more then the 890, then you buy that. If you smile more when ride the 890, you buy that. But if you prefer the 890, but don’t buy it because you don’t want to pay for the tech pack, that’s just silly.

[@cyphertheory]

@@martyn_g very presumptive of you that I both missed your point and that my opinion is incorrect.

[@corbinroberts949]

I would be absolutely furious to look at a quickshifter on my bike knowing that it's locked behind a paywall.

[@whereismymind6696]

Yeah especially after paying for the hardware...

[@RobinBassett]

Bike - yes, attitude to customers - no! #bugged

[@thorstenwanoth6774]

Thanks, I'll stick to my DEMO mode for the next 30K km on my XR650L then.

[@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144]

No one asked you

[@trantas4]

@@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144 Bob asked at the end of the video

[@ucokrizki7015]

yeah, it is hard to beat durability and simplicity, and as much as I Love Big and Bigger Bike, I Love smaller one cos it cannot just go wrong.

[@Kantuva]

@@ucokrizki7015 All the hardware is already implemented (read adding weight) on the bike already, good luck when it fails even when you never paid for the software in the first place x)!!! (this happens to farmers as well, they are being skinned alive by these microtransaction styled addons)

[@pgkr67]

A quickshifter sensor weighs nothing. 50 grams maybe. And even if abs, Tc, the quickshifter fails, you can still ride the bike, you just have some warnings on the dash..

[@alanjones8810]

My first KTM was a new 1190 Adventure then a new 1290superduk gt, it's bad enough having to buy a seat because the standard one is too hard, I have had to do this on both bikes, and then pay extra for something that's on the bike, but you have to pay again, even if the its a safety improvement, I Will NEVER BUY ANOTHER KTM, I can't decide if I am being ripped of or having the piss taken out of me, or both.

[@verlinswarey507]

It’s amazing how just a few design tweaks took this bike from something that was retina meltingly ugly,to something that actually looks pretty good. I’m seriously considering this bike! I really like it. And I liked the comment about “struggling to ride across a gravel parking lot”! That made me feel a lot better!

[@williamrae9954]

Rade Garage sorted that out...buy old stock cheap,upgrade with the extra cash!(there was 790 Adventures going for only £7495 up until this summer-bargain).

[@dax4812]

I ride ktm 950, Im in looking for a new bike, I was considering 890, but they are just too damn ugly, but as now, as you say, just a small changes, and 890r looks great!

[@williamrae9954]

@@dax4812 19/17" wheels on a base model 790/890 Adventure would look better, as would a Rade Garage /Aurora top fairing conversion...and a Sharon exhaust?

[@SimonBrisbane]

They should have changed the headlight cluster too. The only solution for getting better off road is to learn how to do it and get out there and do it!

[@cp4512]

Demo mode seems pretty odd. Thankfully someone will develop jailbreak softwear to unlock it cheaply….

[@alexapostoli569]

Then get busted if you have to take it to a dealer for repairs.

[@cp4512]

@@alexapostoli569 yes, and as it’s a KTM it’s likely to be visiting the dealer for repairs quite often 🤣

[@TheSquirrelSam]

I think it is reasonable to charge for software such as a navigation package, digital road book etc. Where the software has a specific function and you can choose another solution if you do not want the KTM one such as a bolt on GPS. However unlocking hardware you already own is a red line for me. Think if you had to pay to unlock hardware functionality in your mobile or laptop such as max screen resolution, longer battery life or faster processor!

[@Mattventuring]

I totally agree when the hardware is on the bike eg quick shifter. The satnav should be marketed differently, eg you pay a subscription for updates and traffic info

[@alexapostoli569]

KTM is still better than most software companies that charge yearly subscription fees and you don’t own the application. Or John Deere where you pay yearly just to operate their machine and can’t repair it yourself. It’s just the way things are going.

[@JohannesDalenMC]

They did good with the visual improvements, but the whole ZERO approach to tech upgrades isn't something I necessarily agree with. All those extra things increases the initial price of the bike. I'd much rather have the possibility of buying the bike without anything pre-fitted at a much lower price. Great video Bob!

[@colonelclaw]

Was interested right up until you explained how the microtransactions work. Wow. Screw you KTM, you've just lost a potential customer. Thanks for the vid, Bob!

[@jaysurya3143]

Exactly! Quickshifter hardware is already present either way, but to use it we need to pay extra?! More and more manufacturers have started to adopt this and that's kinda frustrating tbh.

[@Tinker3504]

This isn’t new(and I’m not saying I think it’s ok). You should have been lost years ago 😅

[@jaysurya3143]

@@Tinker3504 yaa I noticed this years back in European countries mainly. But where I live, this is a fairly new thing and hence the frustration lol.

[@bhavyajain2427]

U will surely be able to get them unlocked by some expert bike mechanic later down the road for sure. They will figure it out eventually

[@SimonBrisbane]

KTM are no charity..

[@BMWHP2]

I'll never buy a bike (or car) with subsrciptions for stuff that is allready on the bike that I payed for, and have to subscribe to keep using it. NEVER. I will pass this, and hope everyone will. That would teach those companies not to try and scam the customers.

[@mosa4688]

Love the negativity towards KTM in these comments. Pissing myself laughing at people who say they won't buy one because of the way it looks etc. Great, thanks. That just leaves more on the shop floor for the rest of us to purchase, that know just how good looking they are BEHIND the bars,. You know, when you are riding it, not sitting at the coffee shop looking at it. The Software idea is a good one. You try before you buy. There might be somethings in the package you don't need or want and will never use to their full potential. On the other hand there might be something that you think you don't want and then when you try it you actually like it. So you keep what you want and not what you don't and will never use. At least all the hardware is there ready to go. Take for example Cruise Control, I didn't have it on my 2019, therefore I did not have the controller on the handlebars. When I got it activated I had to buy a new cluster as well as pay for the software to be activated. I thought that was steep, but when I am in the Outback on the long straight stretches of tracks/roads - it is worth every penny spent. Some people don't go far enough or hard enough to need all the bells and whistles.

[@casefarley5744]

KTM continues to embarrass itself with these 'optional' software packages. Do people really buy this top spec bike without all the bells and whistles? Do they pick and mix, buy the quickshifter but not engine braking control? Why would you do that? Making this stuff an add-on seems like a cheap, ugly cash grab. Not a good look.

[@alexapostoli569]

I’ll definitely be buying them all. Highway riding without cruise, no way. Quick shifter, what fun! Rally Pack a must have according to several reviewers. I can afford it and if they were standard equipment the price would be higher I’m sure, but I feel for those less fortunate.

[@SirOsisofLiver]

Won't be getting another KTM then. I won't abide bullshit software company marketing strategies on a motorcycle. Especially when there are still alternatives available.

[@shonith91]

You guys in U.K and Europe are lucky to get all the latest and greatest bikes. Here in India all we have is the 390 as the best offering by ktm. As per the optional extras it looks like it's a good time to become a hacker😂

[@xlskins]

It's only a matter of time.

[@8888swatt]

OMG what marketing genius came up with that; pay loads for a new bike, get used to it and then have the features disabled until you pay more!?! WTF. What next, the engine power turns down and you have to pay to have full power again? How about they refund you if you elect to disable the features you don't want then? Would they do this on a feature that had a safety aspect to it or made the bike easier to control? Like you said, this is hardware, your not buying a skin for an avatar in a game.

[@PeterParker-ot8pl]

I had quick shifter on my 2020 790R. At the 1000km service / software update I lost it. Dealer said some bikes come with it but lose it on update as mine did. KTM obviously was testing the market to see if they could sell more upgrades by giving a taste to begin with. I learned to quick shift as a child. I don’t need a computer to do it for me. So I do without.

[@maxbreemer]

"Demo mode" 😞 Some marketing genius thought "well let's give them everything for the first 1500miles/kms, then shut if off" Oh I hate this. And it only shows what money grabbers they are. What's next, subscription model cruise control? Just buy it for the summer holiday trip?

[@Checkmate1500]

Software should be priced in to bike.

[@lucazed4784]

And every single bike would then be 1000€ more expensive

[@emoservedwithfries]

I own a 2022 890 adv & I don't care about any of the extra tech. I thought I was going to buy the entire tech pack but after 2,500 miles in 2 months - I haven't once thought I needed any of it to Make the bike better.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Does the new display keep rain out ;) ? Any focus on improving reliability of all the known issues?

[@martyn_g]

That’s a valid point!!

[@Brad-RB]

I have tried multiple times to buy a KTM but the pricing structure to unlock all the electronics makes them a poor value. The dealers in my area also gouge their customers with ridiculous fees.

[@4tech69]

Your full of shit. The structure is simple. Pick what you want or get everything. It's not complotted. All dealers gouge customers with fees.

[@northerncousin7862]

Initially my reaction was the same as most commenters - it's already on the bike, why I am paying for access. But then one person pointed out that building all the bikes the same is cost efficient for the manufacturer and by offering a trial you can test to see what options your really want - something you could not do if you were ordering as upgrades in the current dealer/sales model. What is being offered still allows you to opt for the base model (and the save your money) or select only those options you really want, say just cruise control, or buy the whole package at at price that is less than the total of the individual components. It may seem like a manipulative marketing scheme at first but viewed on the way I suggest, you the consumer have full control of what options you put on the bike and the total cost. Then again, as others have noted, some smart cookie will figure out a hack and make it all free. I, for one, am interested to see how the marketplace receives this sales strategy.

[@grahamn311]

Food for thought, indeed...

[@RottweilerPerformance]

We were very happy to see this new look. Trust that we'll be all over this bike to see what needs working out. We have seen one in person at the KTM rally in Idaho and it definitely looks the part.

[@AZ_Baggin]

It appears Ktm is addressing the buffeting issue by change the the windshield and front plastics to change air flow. I wonder if the new plastics and windshield will fit my 2022?

[@Desmo904]

Oh HELL NO. That would annoy the feck out of me. It's one thing having optional extras for bikes, but another when they are ACTUALLY FITTED to the bike but turned off. Imagine buying a 2nd hand bike and thinking "Oh, it's got a quick-shifter fitted!" only to discover the original owner never got it activated and you have to pay 360 GBP for it! Nope, I do not like that idea at all. If it's fitted to the bike, it should work. Otherwise, don't fit it.

[@RottweilerPerformance]

We and our customers were very happy to see this new look. Trust that we'll be all over this bike to see what needs working out.

[@8andsk835]

One thing my 2020 790 needed is the wire from the ignition into the wiring loom under the tank. There wasn’t enough slack in mine and got ripped apart which stalled my bike mid turn and the of course set off the imobil antennae. Left me stranded. Pushed the bike 2 plus miles to tarmac to get towed.

[@jackolbean4765]

are these going to be made in China? will that help the reliability issues already plaguing recent versions of this bike?

[@RottweilerPerformance]

@@jackolbean4765 We have yet to see. From what we hear the China plant is state of the art and we know that Chinese can manufacture amazing things when that is the goal, but the stigma attached to 'things' out of China will be hard for them to get around. Chances are the bikes will be even better than from Austria, but that will all depend on the quality control they implement there.

[@drewb.9301]

I've seen the argument that building all the bikes the same makes for more cost effective production but rest assured that's not really how it works and any savings are not being passed on to the buyer. The accessories cost the same to make if they come bolted to the bike from factory or added by the owner as an accessory later. The extra cost of the additional switches and physical kit are baked into the base price of the bike which makes it more expensive than it otherwise would have been. It's effectively charging for accessories up front that they would have sold separately otherwise then charging to make them actually function. I'd argue that the idea that it gives you the option to experience the accessories before buying doesn't really hold water either. You've already paid for the physical parts in the base price so anybody who doesn't pay to make them functional is a sucker who's paid for a bunch of useless parts to be bolted to their bike from the factory. It's a win-win for the manufacturer who chargers a higher base price to the person who wants a no frills bike and has to pay for the accessories anyway or they get to sell a fully featured bike to the person who opts for the tech pack, either way, higher margins.

[@bradleybaker8894]

I like the changes/upgrades for 2023. As a professional product manager in tech industries I don’t have an issue paying for capabilities I want. With the demo mode, you get to try before you buy, and only the people that want those capabilities are paying for it. If that business model doesn’t appeal to someone, more power to them. Shop elsewhere. The great news is there are plenty of compelling choices.

[@gscheben123]

Where does this SW BS stop? How long before KTM goes the way of Microsoft model and charges a YEARLY SOFTWARE LICENSE FEE 🙂

[@drrider1658]

It is perhaps the best performance for the money ADV out there and remains so even if you add all the electronics upcharges. They could add all the stuff as standard , jack up the price getting rid of the option to complain about it, and people would be still be saying what an amazing bike for the money it is. The Triumph 900 Tiger Rally Pro is over $17,100 which will still be more than a 'loaded' KTM once they announce the price. I added the quick shifter and cruise to my 2020 790 and would add the full package to the 2023 no hesitation.

[@prabhakarganapathy9469]

i like the mods however, KTM would have consider some more colors for their Product ranges. ORANGE combination with Blue tank???? !!! why they are not changing the healight? personally i feel Mixed reaction....

[@dean-does-stuff-81]

wont be long before some one can over ride that tech pack for a couple of hundred quid

[@dean-does-stuff-81]

To be honest, I have been looking at the ktms for years, My first bike was a duke 620. But for what ever reason, I just cant bring my self to part money for a KTM. These days they arnt even the cheaper option. the yamahas have that tied up imo. Its a no for me.

[@theEHWAZ]

Great overview, thanks! I have a 2020 790 R that I love. I've never bought the same bike back to back but I called a few dealers to get my name on the list for the 2023 890 R, Rally if available. The looks and upgrades look great. I'm not a fan of charging for the extras but bottom line, you either pay later for specifically what you want or pay in the full price if all extras are included like you see with other brands. I prefer to have a choice with the extras.

[@pynappel]

I might do the same. Love my 790R and the PCP will be up soon. First trail bike and anything else on the market is just heavy and I don’t think it would be as much fun. Even the new Ducati Rally isn’t changing my mind. 260kg wet. Madness. Looks like I need to place that 89R order asap.

[@TLE1977A]

That direction heads down a slippery slope in regards to consumers getting jammed in general for many products.

[@scottyd2262]

This kind of thing makes me embarrassed that I've ever stuck up for KTM when it comes to talking about cost. This is a big facepalm moment for me and will definitely stop me from buying any KTM product in the future.

[@MrAndrew1953]

Yeah nah if money isn’t an issue I’d just pay for the extra software at point of sale. Haggle for the best price and frame the receipt, hang it on a garage wall.😂. Don’t know why they charge extra or don’t offer a bundle deal when you buy the bike. When I bought my car I just paid the extra to get the model with the sunroof which makes sense in Australia 🇦🇺- helps with resale value as well. No maté that’s the price with top of the range sunroof model- take it or leave it!

[@bobz1736]

Nice one Bob. 👍 Having a quick shifter fitted but it not work after 1500 miles is bonkers and 300 quid to re-trigger the software is steep 😔

[@adamangit]

Totally agree. And if we don’t want it, it’s a material waste, a fuel waste to carry when not required and an environmental nonsense

[@CaptainChunk5464]

As always clear coherent advice from motobob 👍

[@shanebrown2963]

No I think it’s total BS that these manufacturers are doing this. It’s the same in the auto industry now. These things came stock on the previous generation but now they are gonna charge you more for the same features. Complete bullshit

[@coarsegoldkid]

Your vid seems misleading for an Adventure R model. You show Xplor Pro Closed Cartridge Cone Valve forks which, correct me if I'm wrong, are only on the R Rally model. Quite a different and more expensive model. What else might be misleading?

[@martyn_g]

Yes, it’s not cheap. But here in Australia a GSA is well past $37K. This bike with the tech pack is about $28K - and we know what the better bike is off road.

[@collectivelogic]

I refuse to purchase any vehicle that requires a subscription for features where the hardware was already purchased. Blurs the line too much between what the consumer owns and has rights over, versus what the manufactures own and get to control. They can use these tricks as ways to lock you out of hardware you own to force you to upgrade. Especially if they start limiting your purchases to X amount of miles or years.

[@SteveHofsaess]

Is it easier to jail break the upgrade software or keep the odometer under 1500 kilometers or work on the Demo mode?

[@TravisHollandMoto]

Over under on how long it’s gonna take for someone to third party unlock all these features for less?

[@lgrw660factory]

The ‘buy the tech options’ approach makes no sense. They’ve already lost their R&D $$$$ and they’ve already put physical things like the quick shifter on the bike. If nobody buys the tech package they’ve not monetised anything.

[@UnbrickableYT]

Does that mean we have to keep rolling back the ODO to 0 km to keep all the features?

[@stewy62]

My gut instinct is that having stuff on your bike that you can’t use is crazy, but thinking about it if you bought a basic version and subsequently wanted to fit a quick shifter this makes it easy. My bigger concern as electronics/computer assisted riding becomes more pervasive is where is all this heading, Big Brother?

[@sih1095]

It seems to be the way things are going to be soon. Same with BMW cars, they fit the tech and then disable it at some point and then ask if you want it back. At a cost of course. Utter rip off.

[@holmes1956O]

The man is already following you. Monitoring your phone calls/texts/emails. Every time you swipe your cash card. Use your passport. Vehicles are just the next step of keeping an eye on you. 👀

[@BlackdogADV]

Will the standard adventure get the new body work also?

[@skyworks1621]

So many changes. I cant wait what new will come for 1290 SAS since my 2022 was stolen few days ago and I have to order new one.

[@BlademanStore]

I would go further and make all the comfortable features by subscription with payment every month! How it has become fashionable to do software manufacturers!

[@johnDukemaster]

Zero does the same. Something to get used too or? It divides, for sure! I would live with it due to the lovely riding experience a KTM gives! Thank you mr Bob!

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

After a mass rebellion from customers. Zero stopped that practice and just charges one price that includes all features unlocked.

[@johnDukemaster]

@@SWTrailsAndWheels That must be a new practice. Must ask my dealer if that's the case here in Europe aswell.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

@@johnDukemaster They just stopped charging extra a couple of weeks ago.

[@johnDukemaster]

@@SWTrailsAndWheels That's good news! I hope KTM will follow in their footsteps.

[@bandobandit353]

GPB100 to enable the rear break?

[@brothermist0]

KTM's 'Demo Mode' is the on disc DLC for the motorcycle world. What is next, monthly subscriptions for these features?

[@blackduck8891]

I was really really planning on getting one of these but learning of the pay to play scam I’m likely not going to purchase.

[@Showza83]

I love my 790 R. Has cruise, rally, etc. all installed. I have a second tall touring screen with fairing that's already pre-mounted in a second factory frame so it's just the single torx bit to swap screens. Rear tires get absolutely destroyed. I'm going to be on my third rear in the next month or two, and I've owned the bike since April 😂. Can imagine the 890 would eat up rears a bit quicker.

[@MrEtnorb]

You only get cone valve forks in the rally or if you pay thousands more.

[@paddlesworthrcpark8215]

Went for a test ride on tenere and the African twin and this definitely my favourite so far with the yam close behind but this ktm has my money 🤦‍♂️🏁

[@motobenco]

Finally someone addresses the software add-ons, the equivalent of charging baggage fees after you paid a premium for the ride. A page out of the Zero motorcycles catalog.

[@matevzgolja5637]

The demo pack is a big BS, because you have everything already on the bike and all they need to do is to check a box in the software. Like here you go have a quickshifter that you can not use.

[@backflipp99]

THIS IS AWFUL... KTM NEVER

[@tomfull6637]

@motobob - Move close to the tank. If the rear wheel drifts out at low speeds it’s impossible to support the bike when your foot is far back. If close to the front wheel it’s a piece of cake

[@cornishrider576]

I'm seriously looking at this one as my next bike. Not sure how much I would need all the extra Demo packages. Had quick shifter before and only occasionally used it. Really don't know how much MSR would help me off-road (not novice but not quite intermediate), Rally pack unlikely to use due to my capability and I don't even like cruise control in the car. I don't think I need any of it.nAnyway, great video and thanks for the info which was really helpful.

[@plotonisradd]

sick video as always man , but i have a question : Do you think they are gonna release long rumored 490 adventure this years EICMA ?

[@motobob]

Probably! There are 5 more adventure bikes to be launched/updated this autumn according to their website which is crazy, so the 490 must be one of them

[@plotonisradd]

@@motobob thanks for the answer man , you are awesome keep up the great work

[@kingcrumpet]

@@motobob Do you think another will be a new 890 Adventure R Rally? Or maybe not so soon after the last one 🤔

[@sz5830]

will KTM ever change the front ? 2 lights like the desert ?

[@ian2958]

There are always those who claim that "software" on an adventure bike is like having a sofa seat with TV on a tractor. Then there are those who claim that such software should be standard, hence being included in the base price. At the end of the day, you need to compare prices between models based on the same features - I am sure that KTM marketing has done the homework, taking into account that, though possibly a bit more expensive than comparable (!) models from the competition, they have their fan base (like Apple).

[@erictrenbeath9680]

2021 owner here. Any upgrades to the already great suspension sound awesome. Everything else seems like fluff.

[@CW4PWR]

The demo mode is like getting married. You have all the features during the engagement but after the wedding, certain features get turned off. Good luck with the resale on those bikes. That is a hard NO for me.

[@BudFox559]

The Demo mode scam stopped me form buying a KTM. I bought a new Honda with DCT because I was curious about it. I had a V-Strom before that. KTM are nice bikes, but I figure if they are going to rip you off right out of the gate, they are not going get any better once they have your money too. The whole motorcycle sales and service industry has just gotten really shady lately. Recently they started shorting inventory, by intentionally holding units at the import impound to keep the showroom lean so they can justify a price squeeze. Brand name demand destruction is not even a consideration. So we'll see who wins in that strategy.

[@Black-Tiger]

I know your a motorcycle channel but i would love to hear your take on the KTM X-Bow

[@sid2vid]

Screw companies selling us tech and making us pay after the fact to turn it on. It’s infuriating. Just give us the complete product.

[@sn00pgreen]

better order one now then, it should be here by next september

[@at-atrider6852]

what people fail to understand is that they would always be charged for these extras no matter if Hard- or Software; it´s simply more cost effective to build only one variant on the line than to build specific to order. Other manufacturers let you pay for parts and labour at the dealer with really isn´t cheaper for the customer.

[@FinicumHardy]

It would be one thing if the bike was an open system with competitors offering a variety of software packages but in a closed system where the software is really an adjunct to the product rather than being the product I think it's is a misguided sales strategy to make people pay more for already embedded function. It's almost as bad as what BMW is doing with subscriptions.

[@maximusmiles8435]

Honestly it sounds like your selling the bike. " Better " this and "upgraded " that. Is it really better, or an upgrade? I guess that's a bit like beauty.

[@joejustjoe3926]

Nice vid, but I am afraid that your cone valve front suspension shown here comes stock only on the Rally. After test riding a few used 790's (they all rode different) I made a purchase on a new 2023 890 ADV R. The tech pack was $1,000.00 installed, and decided that If I can afford a new 890R, then I can afford the tech pack. There is absolutely no comparison between the used 790'rs and a new 890r. The fully adjustable upgraded suspension and the sick power band were enough for me to spend a couple more grand to step up to the 890R. I would have been fine with the 790R, had I not test rode the 890R. I'm super stoked that I stepped up instead of being the cheap bastard that I normally am, LOL. Better to have it (new bike, upgraded power, performance and suspension) and not need it-than to need it and not have it. Buy once, cry once. ☮

[@jackchristodoulou197]

80% of riders including me don’t need the R model the standard 890 would be enough

[@coochb945]

Good heads up. Here's how to combat it. Everyone interested in buying one rock up to your dealer and just before signing on the dotted line insist that unlocking the full software package is part of the base purchase price. No deal, then walk. Everyone does this Demo mode will be history by the end of the week.

[@pgkr67]

Good luck with that. Its old news in the car industry.. No one cares..

[@dougharrison7844]

Paying extra to unlock sofware only features is one thing but but if I'm paying for a bike with a quick shifter it should work. If I did'nt want to pay extra for it then would'nt want the non functioning hardware on the bike in the first place.

[@kylecolmar964]

Thanks for the great content

[@painsrides3616]

All the ADV bike with the stupid breaks sticking out 😐.... I have no problem with the KTM headlight

[@abrahamgastelum8430]

Nice video. Do You Know if there is to be an S vertion of this bike?

[@motobob]

Don’t think so - just the standard 890 and the R

[@DaleMt09sp]

Hopefully they’ll be people hacking the software for a quarter of the price can’t be dealing with greedy dealers plenty of people do it in the car world nowadays

[@cpuuk]

The term you were looking for is "the old 890 looks pear-shaped" ;-)

[@motobob]

Accurately put!

[@jobyEN]

So, they give you a taste of that software pack in the first kilometers of the bike's life, when you can't push it at all because of the limitations in the run-in period? Nice! Wasn't it more honest to see the full price with everything enabled and get a discount after disabling the features you don't want? I'd better live without a bike than supporting this kind of practice!

[@bielbills]

The most important thing you need to know before buying this bike is that it is made in China. 100% it is going to give you headache someday!

[@benkelly2190]

I have recently purchased a KTM SAS .. got the tech pack thrown in! It’s all good stuff.. nothing different to any other brand, you have to pay for add ons BMW are by far the worse.

[@rolan2dr]

It’s ridiculous they try to charge for all these extras. My dealer activated my quickshifter+ for free and I would have been furious had I paid for it because it’s not very smooth.

[@zzim2853]

What an awesome wicked machine. so cool new bikes like this by KTM are hitting our markets. I like the few changes, looks great. My 2020 puts an absolute smile on my face every time I ride it.

[@christianmouraux7269]

Hi, thanks for your video 👍 I have a 890 Adventure S and I love this bike, so much that I’m looking to replace it by a new one.... but... I’m quite surprised how fast KTM looses its value on the second hand market. Why is it so? My bike bought 1,5 year ago has lost close to half its value...!?

[@connysjostrom5787]

so you havent tryed it?

[@JJ-SH]

For me paying to enable software features is sort of fair enough, but paying to enable hardware which is already fitted is not on. Even worse would be the latest trend in car manufacturers trying to scam you out of a subscription to sometjing that isn't a service - $10 a month for your heated seats to work, $15 a month for sport mode.. Complete prefoeteering scam that would stop me buying the model completely.

[@alphajed7700]

I can't stop overthinking that one day, the features you have mentioned will be sold separately. Sounds EA games? 😁

[@calebbrown2983]

I really just want a Norden 401 though...

[@sambarr7826]

Sounds like you got paid to read the catalogue blurb and expand on it. How's your integrity holding up??

[@user-iz7zy7rx9t]

Its offensive that they would install components and then make you pay to unlock them.

[@queenslander954]

Is it a anti limp mode ?