New Kubota M8 is Finally Here

[@bahabob1386]

Don't let him fool ya, thats actually a B2601, a witch shrunk Neil last night. 😂

[@gmcsd05]

Kubota and Cummins have a long relationship. I work on diesel Cummins RV generators, they are all powered by Kubota 3 or 4 cylinder diesels.

[@adamr9515]

The reason is because it's a Buhler versatile

[@brosforlife1828]

I just wanted to say ty for all the great informative videos you put out. I am new the market looking for a tractor, and your videos have proven to be quite helpful in learning about different tractors implements, operation etc. One area i am having trouble finding information on is tractor capabilities when it comes to terrain. My use will be a lot of "in the woods" up and down trails etc. Can you go over some of the terrain constraints there are for tractors? maybe you already have a video i haven't seen. If anyone reading this has any thoughts or resources i would love to hear them. Thanks in advance for any help.

[@MessicksEquip]

I'll do this

[@florzamorano9248]

@@MessicksEquip d

[@andrewcompton2124]

Should I get a 5’ or 6’ boxblade with this tractor?

[@WBOS72]

Great video! Built by thefine folks in Winnepeg, MB.

[@n7hevn]

Canada, has gone to the COMMUNIST party!!!

[@Born2FarmForced2Wrench]

@@n7hevn us in western Canada dont claim the excuse for a prime minister we have right now

[@Shane_O.5158]

is the hitch at least 8 1/2 inches lower than the PTO as the some American tractor association asks for.?

[@TheMindfulHomestead]

I think I can speak for us all when I say "What a beast!"

[@ritterjon]

💥 I think a person could live in the cab. Wow it’s huge! *Keep on tractoring!*

[@markam306]

Messick, The 6.7 liter Cummins ‘B’ is the engine used in Dodge Cummins pickups. It is popular for a reason, it performs and lasts. This is an industrial duty engine found in construction and other equipment. Cummins has tremendous experience with this size and larger engines. Kubota’s experience is with smaller diesel engines of the 3 and 4 cylinder variety. For most actual full time farmers, the Cummins is more desirable. Versatile is a good company making good products. The owner’s opinions I have heard were for their 4WD articulated tractors. They are rock solid and well laid out. They are particularly attractive to customers who want a modest amount of electronic automation and sensors.

[@adamr9515]

Yea idk how much they've improved them but I know that historically the Cummins just wasn't even anywhere near the same ballpark as the fiat motors that replaced them. It wasn't uncommon for 8.3s to blow up in the old case combines that were running them and now case is running the 6.7 nef motor in the baby combine as well as a lot of increasingly large tractors up to and including the magnums and optums and so far I've never seen any issues. So this just looks like a huge step down to me

[@markam306]

My Cummins 6.7 is still running strong and it’s a first year engine, 2007. Mike Mitchel’s operation sold all their red tractors and combines due to engine and hydraulic failures. I don’t trust Fiat.

[@adamr9515]

@@markam306 idk that's just been our experience and fiats make up pretty much 70% of our fleet now

[@Robertdrivesaway]

ZF transmissions is a German company but the do make transmissions in Greenville SC

[@bigdaddyccm1217]

Does it come with a belly mower?

[@CarterBuilds]

got a bunch of m110s and up id wait on kubota to produce this size machine on their own before id upgrade great video as always guys i put my name down for a 75-3 here in florida because of yalls video wish more dealers were as excited about their products as yall

[@tedbastwock3810]

This is now Kubota's largest machine, right? I might have missed that at the beginning. Thanks for sharing this video!

[@acdii]

I could go Clarkson with this to do 3 acres of hay.

[@f5tornadeau]

Power!

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Great overview Neil

[@ram64man]

And next week we take it to tractor time with tim .. 3 series of 8 series which one is best for you

[@tlr-nut7275]

Kubota does have a factory in Canada. In Orillia, Ontario. Not sure what they make there?

[@MessicksEquip]

It's a distribution center.

[@tlr-nut7275]

@@MessicksEquip It is a factory. I'm sure of that. Not a warehouse.

[@AlexWilcox]

@@MessicksEquip The Orillia facility belongs to Kubota Materials, they do steel castings there.

[@troyp467]

10/10 because it's built in friendly Manitoba! Great video as always.

[@iq6840]

Does it have air conditioning.

[@plumcreekfarms8138]

Great job Neil!

[@JCWren]

No cooler under where you'd put your laptop?

[@stacygilbertmatheson9991]

I am glad to see Kubota waited until they worked the bugs out, I bought a 175 versatile nemesis and it is just constant problems. The 175 can barely get out of its own way so in my opinion the smallest size that should be offered is the 210, I would say if Kubota was wise they would drop the 180 and only offer the 205.

[@leemarchant7191]

I wish they had a 220 sized model in the m8 line. Glad to hear they are getting them Kubota reliable. The gps is one question I’ve had. Thanks for touching on that. Is m7 the same way?

[@MessicksEquip]

Yea. steering valve is a factory option, bring your own display.

[@tunintunin3417]

So as far as I understand, with the Cummins engine, ZF transmission, built in Canada by Versatile, only the Paint color is Kubota?

[@MessicksEquip]

And the electronics, controls, cab, etc.

[@spudgamer6049]

Out of curiosity, how... custom.. to this machine are the engine, transmission, etc? If, for instance, the transmission is exactly the same as the one in 5 other models (and brands) of tractor, parts will be much more available and cheaper than if it is something the company makes specifically for Kubota(especially if they have contracts which prevent them from selling parts except through Kubota)

[@tunintunin3417]

@@MessicksEquip I am pretty sure the cab is not made by them, my Kubota with cab, has a sticker of the manufacturer in France, not Kubota. The el. loom is made by a company in Holland according to the sticker.

[@tunintunin3417]

@@spudgamer6049 Never the less. I bought my Kubota,p because it was “Japanese” and I had luck with it, the engine and most other parts was Japan made as well as the whole tractor was assembled in Japan…. I bought an Antonio Carraro 100hm last month, Yanmar engine, mostly because eI had issues with Kubota Europe, support, service and parts access.

[@spudgamer6049]

@@tunintunin3417 I meant this specific tractor.

[@barryon8706]

It can plow half an acre just by turning around.

[@ghulands]

I really wish we could get those Aloe loaders in the US for the M6. Canada has them and they look great.

[@adamr9515]

Buy the quicke. Basically everyone is using them now

[@D70340]

My wife an i are feeding our little Kubota BX23s really well, in hopes as it gets older, it`ll be as big an strong as this tractor in the video. wink wink ;)

[@alexmaclean1]

I liked that lol

[@Orefamilylawncare]

Dang why did Kubota sub out the tractor? What happens if the relationship doesn't go well? Will parts be difficult to get?

[@Shane_O.5158]

how much does that loader lift ?

[@StahlFirearmsNo2]

Couldn’t find the M8-211 on your website what’s MSRP with the loader

[@MessicksEquip]

Not currently available

[@StahlFirearmsNo2]

@@MessicksEquip is kubota not building them yet?

[@MessicksEquip]

I have units on order for over a year that are not shipping.

[@StahlFirearmsNo2]

@@MessicksEquip well that’s disappointing how much should I expect to pay for one once they start shipping?

[@MessicksEquip]

250ish

[@Drew6709]

What is the projected weight range of the M8 series?

[@JeremyTVOK]

I could see your helper hiding in various places throughout the video.

[@ChronicBongitis420]

3:19 that's more brand protection and customer retention than to protect people.

[@diesel7903]

Does anyone know why they knock down the power, the Cummins makes 370 - 420 hp

[@clafournaise]

But how is the seat

[@witchtelus]

It's a re-branded Versatile Nemesis model tractor. Exactly the same, with different paint.

[@MessicksEquip]

Did you watch the video? Far from exactly the same.

[@witchtelus]

@@MessicksEquip Well I suppose it depends on what you call exactly and far from lol.

[@jpoppinga8417]

Lifting capacity of loader?

[@barryon8706]

Lifting capacity: Yes.

[@Jaxon-iu6vb]

Around 5k lbs

[@paulnorman8274]

About one M series...........

[@nocoolname32]

am i correct is saying that this has less than a 1000 lbs higher lifting capacity than the m7?

[@giuseppeaudino697]

Very good tractor good video My wife she grew up in the market garden background and they still using Kubota tractors 🙏👋👍🍻

[@John1911]

All I can say is, “Hole-Lee-Chit!”. That Kubota is huge!!!! With a laptop desk!!!!!

[@ishouldgetalif3]

Good lord the size of that exthaust scrubber! Looks almost like some sort of Sauna stove haha

[@golfy808]

Hope the air con works well

[@marksleeper9385]

great vid Neil

[@BeingMe23]

Great review! 👍 So where is the batteries at? 🧐

[@ericmackison9517]

I'm sure the "boost" feature is so they can scoot around ridiculous emissions requirements. That engine can make over 350 hp all day if it was allowed to.

[@paulnorman8274]

It gets hard to cool at full power combined with slow speeds.

[@ericmackison9517]

@@paulnorman8274 once again, emissions related 🙄🙄🙄. At least the Cummins after treatment is pretty reliable

[@Shredxcam22]

I mean guys run 6.7s up to 2000hp on nitrous.

[@adamr9515]

Alright someone has to clear this confusion up right now. There is a difference between heavy duty and light duty. And first off any of those engines yall are talking about in a race setting are only making full power for maybe 10 seconds at a time or so, and they are getting torn down after at least every season if not every single night. And it's a similar story to pickups. For the most part a Cummins that makes 370hp in a dodge is only going to be at full load for maybe 1% of its total life if even that and most other times it's just cruising around. Now the reason why these are considered a heavy duty/severe duty application is because every second that this thing is on its running a massive hyd pump and fairly substantial electric load for all those computers and tractors spend quite a few hours at full load or near full load at high rpm applications with tons of dust and contamination going everywhere around them. So it's not an apples to apples comparison and people need to quit saying this

[@Shredxcam22]

@@adamr9515 who would of thought. I mean my 12v was rated at 190 hp.

[@himself2]

Kubota getting better all the time

[@DJC995]

Very Nice it Looks Massive Thanks

[@zacs8654]

When is Kubota going to make Some big cube Diesel engines.

[@paulnorman8274]

Farms, and contiguous plots, generally don't seem big enough in Japan to warrant it, from what I have seen. Since I doubt Kubota wants to develop without very close back-and-forth with actual users, getting real big stuff out of them would likely require an entire development, engineering and production organization in a market where demand for bigger machines is greater. As for priorities, there are billions of people in places where agriculture is just starting to get mechanized. I can't imagine the ultimately stagnant markets of Europe and the US being where Kubota sees its biggest growth opportunities. Also; the US, and Europe, already have plenty of great bigger machines. The smaller end is where Western brands seem to struggle with delivering the kind of value the Asians are able to.

[@lilbigrigw9904]

My bus, an international harvester ce 300 has a Cummins isb 6.7 litre engine also

[@freezerburn04]

Very modern. Nice tractor 🚜

[@morganthedeereman1340]

How much does somthing like that cost

[@jthomp997]

More than I can afford

[@martylost167]

@@jthomp997 or pay to fix.

[@tractortyme]

DANG, that's a YUUUUGE machine 😳

[@HermannMeyer-w5f]

Ich würde sagen das ist ein Versatile im Kubota Design

[@tonyadams399]

Does this tractor have a turbocharger?

[@MessicksEquip]

No

[@Mrbink01]

I wish they'd do the black cylinders and bucket on the smaller machines

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

Will my Ford ranger pull this bad boy safely?

[@herberthoff2590]

I like the covers over the grease zerks on the loader. Might they be available for other loaders? Oh yeah, the tractor is awesome.

[@jean-philippegagnon9189]

what type of quick attach on the loader?

[@MessicksEquip]

Euro

[@Morpheen999]

I don't think you can throw Versatile under the bus for all the issues.. They just take the specs from Kubota and put it together.. if it doesn't work well thats on the design and materials chosen

[@spudgamer6049]

Depends what the issues were. Just because you have specs doesn't mean you properly follow them. How many people have issued putting stuff together because they don't read the instructions properly? Without more info, hard to say where fault lies, or even if it was just one of those unforeseeable things that sometimes pops up when going from design to mass production.

[@Shane_O.5158]

i see a HUUUGE gap below that DEF system, i kubota made that exhaust pipe come out and down, they could lower that god awefull DEF system to be below the line of sight.

[@johanneslaxell6641]

I understand that it's lacking alot of "extras", but no quick-hitch or/and hydraulic "pushbar" in the back? No front PTO, lifting or hydraulics? Air-brakes for a trailer? Hydraulics and PTO "knobs" on the rear fender (maybe I missed them)? Where are all the "bells and whistles"? If there are challenges with delivery, I understand it. But for "serious" use that machine needs some add-ons. The competition is (?) Valtra T, Fendt 700-series and so on. I thank you for educational videos, they are great. I don't allways understand/get the difference between American an European specs, but it is all for fun, isn't it? Greatings from Hanko, Finland 😛!

[@Memyselfandmyguitar]

I'm in the U.S and we don't run air brakes on tractors and no one even has brakes on trailers unless it's a semi or a larger trailer for a pickup. Heck tractors rarely even pull trailers, about every farmer in the U.S owns a semi so there are no need to use a slow tractor. It's also rare to see a front 3-pt hitch or a front pto

[@MessicksEquip]

That's a lot of the optional equipment we would usually order these things with. This is more of a feedlot configuration which tends to be a lot more basic. It is very attractively priced like this.

[@johanneslaxell6641]

@@MessicksEquip Yes sir, I do understand it and I didn't in any way mean to be disregardful. I just find it interesting that the first (?) video that comes and it looks like the "base model". Just think that you would have easier to tell/show/sell if you had a "top notch" machine with all the "goodies". Over here we have Agco Finland. When a new Valtra, Fendt or some other pice of equipment is released, and they make a video, it's packed with extra everything. I know that Kubota makes great tractors and looking at this one (regardless of the presentation that was GREAT 👍🏽) I thought "Yes, a nice tractor. Would do the job." When I watched the videos (Agco Suomi) about the Fendt 724 Gen 6 and the Valtra T235D it was "Oh mama, who's your daddy? Let me take you home!". And this is (I think) mostly depending on the difference in the picture. - Kubota: We go from here and add on stuff. - Fendt/Valtra: All of this could be yours, can you take/handle/pay it? I am sure you know what is best for the market depending on location, just wanted to give a different perspective. Somehow I managed to make it sound like disrespect and for that I am sorry 🥺.

[@johanneslaxell6641]

@@Memyselfandmyguitar But don't you put snowblowers, plows and mowers in the front? We put one cutter in the front abd two in the back. Fastening a plow in the front using 3-point hitch and third and fourth hydraulics makes it nice ddaling with snow. Snowblower needs hitch, hydraulics and PTO. My small Kubota B7100 has hydraulics and PTO in the front. I run a saw/splitter (circular saw and splitting "cone", not a processor) with the PTO and the hydraulics lifts and turns the blade in the winter.

[@Born2FarmForced2Wrench]

The quick hitch is the only one I'm kinda surprised at, I dont know what you mean by hydralic push bar. In North America very few people use front 3pt/PTO, the one exception would be people looking to run large triple mowers, but those themselves are pretty uncommon. Air brakes on tractors are nonexistent as everyone uses a big truck for hauling needs. 3pt controls on the rear fender are pretty common now, but I cant see what you would use a PTO control for. Tractors in NA are specced very differently than European tractors, mainly because we dont have tight road restrictions so it's easier to pull a wide trailed mower rather than have 3 smaller mowers.

[@waynegalvin4639]

Versatile was a Canadian start up company in Winnipeg Manitoba and they primarily made large tractors for the large acreage farms in the Canadian wheat belt. I think that all their tractors were powered by Cummins engines and their old tractors are still in demand in the used market. This new Kubota will probably have a good price point as it is made in Canada and the Canadian dollar exchange rate is about 20% right now.

[@SteveMccarthyAus]

Eric from 10th Gen Dairyman sent me overreact here 👍

[@JohannZ100]

These bigger Kubota tractors are cool the M6 M7 and M8 in fs 22 i have Kubota and Allis Chalmers John Deere is not what i thought it was I use to be a John Deere snob but when I watched videos on Allis Chalmers Kubota and I used an l3301 and a l3010 while in trade school after running them im like i want a Kubota tractor now i plan to buy an LX2610SU i already have a ZG20 Kubota i upgraded from a time cutter It was like upgrading from a yugo to Kenworth a big difference in quality of build and the powertrain Kubota is better

[@joeyoung3319]

This application of the Cummins 6.7 is RIDICULOUSLY DE-RATED. These engines are designed to put out DOUBLE these power ratings. That said, TUNING FOR CUMMINS is widely available. Also, Kubota SHOULD OFFER ANOTHER POWER LEVEL: 275 ‐ 300HP.

[@aaronsbarker]

Cummins 6.7? How closely related is it to the 6.7 in Ram pickups? Obviously different HP numbers, but do they share the same platform, of just the same displacement?

[@Jaxon-iu6vb]

Same platform. Used in lots of ag applications.

[@aaronsbarker]

@@Jaxon-iu6vb makes sense, the old 5.9 was nearly as ubiquitous in its life cycle as the Detroit 2 strokes were in theirs. It will be interesting to see the power-adders from the pick-ups slapped on an 8 series....1200 hp and 2500ftlbs? Zoom zoom!

[@Jaxon-iu6vb]

I highly doubt any of these will be tuned over 300. It just wont hold up at crazy hp.

[@aaronsbarker]

@@Jaxon-iu6vb true... but we all know there are some folks out there who do silly stuff just because they can, even knowing it will break stuff.... maybe even BECAUSE it will break stuff.

[@markam306]

The Cummins 5.9 was originally developed for Case to power small to mid sized construction equipment. Dodge made a deal and put it in their pickup trucks, the rest is history. The 6.7 Cummins is an upsized 5.9 to compensate for stricter emission controls without sacrificing power. Ag tractors have very expensive transmissions and final drives. All components in the drive train are matched, along with the size and weight of the tractor. Farmers need reliable horsepower and you don’t hear of many ‘turning up’ the engines. The 6.7 Cummins can be hot rodded to 4 digit horsepower numbers for short runs at the drag strip. 400 hp in a pickup towing 10,000 to 20,000 is common, but this power is intermittent for hill climbing. These folks closely monitor exhaust gas temps and have upgraded torque converters and built transmissions. Farmer’s needs are completely different. They will pull an implement all day at 90% + power levels. They need to get several thousand hours of life from their expensive equipment. 200 horsepower from a 6.7 liter diesel engine is about right for long term full power use. The 12 liter engines in tractors are set to 400-450 horsepower. Above that the 15 liter Cummins will supply 500-600 hp in a tractor or semi truck. Ag equipment that has engines turned up past these ratings have reliability problems (example current Case IH using the Fiat engines, and John Deere 13.5 liter engines turned up over 500 hp. These power ratings are not only for longevity and reliability, but also for fuel usage. Fuel usage is a major cost for the farm.

[@macabebaumert3778]

It would have been nice if kubota could have made a 2wd Open station m8 kubota

[@eddygoodwin7089]

Would love to see messick move out west day to idaho

[@MetaView7]

Wow, that's what I call a tractor.

[@osuoiler3605]

It's a pretty tractor, but that exhaust is obscene!

[@paulhudson8321]

Nice looking machine with a good engine. I’ll stick with my Massey Ferguson though. Touch of one button and that increases flow to loader for loader work really speeds it up.

[@adamr9515]

Yea these two are not comparable whatsoever

[@tman8939]

sounds like a Vesabota to me or is it a Kubotile tractor.

[@MatthewG_208]

If I was rich I would buy this for fun

[@AJmx2702001]

Biggest issue i see with that tractor is who makes it if kubota would just throw up the cash and buy out versatile they would be a full line competitor . Its a crenlo cab and a ZF trans which i think Claas and Mc Cormick use . So if kubota would go their own they could piece together the same basic tractor without any outside help . I could see this getting the 7.5 liter kubota power plant in the future

[@richardlwellington]

It looks like the same size as the Lamborghini tractor from Clarks Farm.

[@eosjoe565]

Anyone owning a tractor like that better invest in a good ladder. :-)

[@loganrench5680]

Best thing for new tractors after they leave dealerships is to chop def and dpf system off

[@mesh1248]

I had a newer ridgid frame versatile for a few years the series bigger then the kabota shown here liked the power and comfort was fine nothing special just a few annoying things I didn’t like but overall it was fine but being a fairly new machine I don’t think ive ever towed a tractor as much as that one god that tractor was always broken hopefully it was just mine being a lemon

[@DrCanadianGamer]

think this would be good for plowing my driveway

[@Treeplanter73]

Sounds kinda like a Frankenstein parts tractor?

[@stevenpringle7813]

The extra weight should come from larger functional pieces, not from just adding weights to the rear wheels etc.

[@MessicksEquip]

That is the case. It's axles are larger than most in its class.

[@BG-vq9fd]

I like the loader lift but I don't think my building is big enough. I am sure my pockets are not deep enough.

[@brandondubon5602]

That huge

[@abrad3061]

I feel cheated you didn't test drive it!

[@MessicksEquip]

Search the channel. I ran a disc with it about 2 years ago.

[@abrad3061]

Will do

[@pjp80s]

Wait…., this is really not a Kubota? I do love the 6.7 Cummins…

[@adamr9515]

Pretty much a badge engineering job

[@dmhipkins]

Awesome!!!

[@TheOldMachines]

Boost aka "war emergency power"

[@peterkober6758]

This is Pete kobers daughter I am sad to tell you that he passed away on October 22nd

[@tomvonkamecke7136]

Sorry for your loss

[@tomtillman]

Price = big secret.

[@aswan2140]

Thank you Neil, is she just under $300,000?

[@MessicksEquip]

way, way under.

[@karatejoe5049]

2:29 congratulations on pronouncing ergonomic like a middle school graduate Neil!

[@johnmorgan4017]

Nice tractor! Versatile built so hopefully no standard Kubota 4-5 shift that sends u through a windshield. I’ve run several m6-m7 units. Can layout and build quality it terrible

[@moxtheox471]

This is my lottery car.

[@srad98ful]

SEND IT TO WES PANDY!!!!!! for a demo

[@zachzimmerman7076]

It's ashame that kubota doesn't use their own engine. It turned me off when I heard of the different engine.

[@alexmaclean1]

I think going forward in the new reality is that unfortunately many well known brands are going to be forced to assemble new products from a bastardized list of random sources based on whoever can produce an reasonably close part. Personally sorry to say, but I think this model will likely be a nightmare to get parts for. I hope to be proven wrong. I just know it's been happening 8n the car world and it has caused supply issues for the ones selling the rebadged versions.

[@MessicksEquip]

Assembly of final product from standardized parts is pretty common practice in this business. Even big companies like CNH, Deere, etc do the same. Deere.for example uses ZF for a lot of their transmissions. Some of this should actually help parts availability because you have a large machine population to support the sales over decades, rather than there being only a couple thousand of something floating around and making parts not economical to produce.

[@alexmaclean1]

@@MessicksEquip Fair point, I hope this is the case. You're in this world every day so you have a pretty good idea of the inner workings. If you think it's going to work out I assume you're correct. I did some quick searching and learned this Canadian company is actually very large and reputable, but I must admit this was the first I'd heard of it.

[@morganthedeereman1340]

I thought kabota made their engines

[@MessicksEquip]

all but this one.

[@John1911]

He said Kubota might replace with their OEM engine in future.

[@Savethepandabears]

😂 big lol i think kubota has the smallest tractors compared to the other competitors

[@dieselfreak69]

Why don’t you guys ever say the price it’s like your scared to say a price cause someone else might be lower. Just say a fuckin price man

[@MessicksEquip]

because this video is 3 years old and prices change over time.

[@Coaltrain87.]

Ah yes a 6.7 easy to delete hahahaha