New LoL Cinematic is So Bad that Riot Had to Issue an Apology

[@manasik6108]

And the funny part is, Riot released Trailer for lunar skins next day and it was 100x better than this year's Cinematic.

[@BowserisOK]

It really isn't. Our cinematic was sacrificed just to promote a skinline cinematic for Tencent and the Chinese audience.

[@hubris6567]

Guess what? Skins = money. Of course they will put effort on that.

[@GameManCZ2000]

@@BowserisOK you know Lunar skins isnt for just chinese audience right? Valorant, LoR, tft, wild rift gets good content and cinematics. Not sure why LoL is treated so badly. But I would say alot of budget went to Project L, mmorpg and some music and shows.

[@bradbot]

It's was complete shit, too. When you compare it to the lunar beast cinematic for the exact same event years ago

[@exu7325]

@@BowserisOK "Our" cinematic? Who are the "we" here?

[@MissyFuzz]

To explain it in WoW terms: Imagine if the Dragonflight trailer was just a minute of some girl saying random quotes from characters that have next to nothing to do with each other, and literally the next day Blizzard released a 10 minute epic trailer to promote the new cash shop mount. That's basically what Riot did with the cinematics.

[@spacejunk2186]

+ that cinematic would be rendered in game.

[@Windw00d]

You forgot adding in comms or voiceovers from like World First kills. Dragonflight cinematic was pretty bad, but compared to this its Citizen Kane.

[@yabara_]

"Epic trailer" that trailer is also cheap, I think players say its better just because of the disappoint And the girl who gave the voice is Powder not random Aside this yeah

[@Safsal]

Dragonflight's cinematic was on par with 2023 season cinematic

[@dexorne9753]

Who cares about cinematics anyway, just play the fucking game

[@desolation1821]

Didn't think I would ever hear anything bad about a Riot Cinematic.

[@housemana]

ahh, so you're just learning about the dangers of Hubris, aye? well get used to it and learn to spot it quickly and how to deal with it in the only area u can control - your own life. never assume u have "made it" in whatever u are doing - either a passion or profession or personally. always arrive to be present and in the moment. never think you can rest or have made it to your destination. keep climbing. only the ladder is real.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@housemana no one asked bro

[@Toby_Taro]

@@housemana ok

[@BennyBrown00]

@@housemana thank you good sir I am feeling awfully inspired by your speech 😃

[@BEESKIT800]

@@housemana my bro a discord mod for sure

[@ChrysusTV]

First time seeing that cinematic. The weirdest part to me is the sound clips of pro game casters. I've never seen a League cinematic (aside from ones specifically for pro games) that breaks out of the League universe. They're always exclusively about the people/champions living in this fantasy world, so it's jarring randomly hearing casting in a cinematic.

[@overlookingview5621]

Happens when you hire two people from Fiverr to do your Unreal engine and reuse voices for the cinematic. But Riot is a small indie company so its understandable

[@bunnyfreakz]

They try to imitate Dota2 with pro casting.

[@MissMarvel_]

Right, like the game is about the esports scene and not having fun with your friends.

[@Shubham-hk6yf]

Apparently a cinematic is more important than the actual game. The neckbeard community of LoL(no pun intended)

[@antares3030]

@@Shubham-hk6yf it is! I don't play the game for years, but I follow the cinematics they put out x)

[@HackerArmy03]

What the fans of the said game are really complaining about is not really about the mediocore cinematic (though tbh, it's the worse cinematic they've released) but more so on the amount of investment Riot is giving League. Lack of proper events, skins, champions, and now their cinematic? It is widely known that Riot has never failed to deliver with their cinematic until now. So yes, it is a public showing of how Riot is focusing more on their other games (I.e, their MMO, Valorant, Project L, etc.)

[@gman7497]

Also TV and films. I hate to break it to the hard-core LoL people but Riot has grown beyond just one game.

[@yololoyo7379]

League can die i don't care. I want to see they go all out for their other projects

[@nuramo]

@@gman7497 Except the left the one game that MADE them, in the dust and those initial loyal fans chewing on mud.

[@dolofonosesostrefis]

Oh no, don't worry, we've got skins... loooooots of skins... around 150 something in 2022

[@Vampireinarm1]

good man, let league die, its such a shit game at this point, bloated roster that can never be truly balanced , its times for new games to take the spotlight

[@matzeklo]

Lets not forget, the poem in the 2023 cinematic is just reused champ quotes.

[@BunnyTheOverlord]

I don't understand why thats a problem. The whole things empty except for some champion weapons and its utterly forgettable but I know that if they had did a proper cinematic with those champs showing up as their quotes were read out no one would be complaining about the poem. Keep your complaints straight and go at the cinematic itself otherwise it just looks like people complaining for the sake of complaining and Riot won't listen.

[@matzeklo]

@@BunnyTheOverlord you dont get why it is a problem? simple. The rehashed it, trying to make it look like a new poem. Instead its just champ quotes delivered by someone else. its just like their champ design being reused and mixed abilites of old champs thrown together to make "new" abilities.

[@F1nnSL]

@@BunnyTheOverlord Its a problem because the cinematic is not only empty, but the only "memorable" thing it has are recycled quotes from characters that have nothing to do with eachother. Obviously if the champs where there to say them, it would be a LOT better, with some background and a situation for them to say it, but right now its only: "fuck i dont know what to put, whatever, let just get some quotes here and there and vuala"

[@aryantzh2028]

chill, riot's artists team still busy with arcane season 2. cinematic is not as important as arcane, so they focused on arcane. u don't get loss if they get a bad cinematic or something, u can watch it free. but u'll get loss money and a lot of time if u watched bad arcane season 2.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

@@aryantzh2028 EXCUSE ME? wtf is this copium? do you really think they dont have separate departments for animation at netflix? LMJAZDXDZXGZSXCGa. what an naive normie

[@crablord7934]

The most egregious part is that the "we had to do this because of unprecedented circumstances" is most likely an empty excuse. Riot does not make their cinematics in-house and everybody knows that. The only possible way to interpret this is that the studio they contracted to make the 2023 cinematic somehow lost the entire file on around Christmas and some poor intern had to burn the last of his holidays to whip out the student project level 2023 cinematic that we got.

[@severedproxy]

exactly what I was thinking. if it's true then it's nice that they didn't throw the studio under the bus. random info, fortiche is technically owned by riot. before riot invested in them, they were a team of 3 people. edit: expanded to 100+, downsized after arcane was cancelled worked on other riot projects (get jinxed, rise, k/da), then expanded again when arcane was green lit again 1 year later.

[@AlmightyChastor]

Baseless statement

[@Mrholysymbol]

Alright hold on now its not up to their usual standard but it's nowhere near as low as most student project levels of quality...relax

[@DefenestrationO]

@@Mrholysymbol it is quite literally college intern levels of quality. Very typical art direction for a student's portfolio... A slow flying tour through an Unreal Engine project tier static environment.

[@housemana]

@@Mrholysymbol does it really matter what level the creators are at when they literally didn't understand the assignment? or perhaps they understood it too well. :)

[@ForTheOmnissiah]

The difference in time and effort required between their other cinematics and the new one is INSANE. Literally would take hundreds of times more work-hours to make those other cinematics than the one we got. No, seriously, it's that big a difference. No animated characters at all besides a single butterfly. No environment destruction. One single environment that is summoner's rift (of which they already had a cinematic quality version made). One single voice actor. VERY few sound effects, hardly any. You really gotta understand the CRAZY amount of time it takes to animate even just one character in a fighting sequence, and their cinematics have often over a dozen to animate, along with voice acting for them and sound effects etc. This wasn't just laziness, it was outright neglectful of the company.

[@richardshiflett5181]

And the VA wasn't good

[@aryantzh2028]

chill, riot's artists team still busy with arcane season 2. cinematic is not as important as arcane, so they focused on arcane. u don't get loss if they get a bad cinematic or something, u can watch it free. but u'll get loss money and a lot of time if u watched bad arcane season 2.

[@aryantzh2028]

remember that the music director for riot is also directing arcane.

[@hei7846]

@@aryantzh2028 Arcane should always come secondary, the main purpose of the show is to promote the game. I am not even a league player

[@aryantzh2028]

@@hei7846 even with cinematic is not always come primary, the main purpose is the gameplay. cause u don't get award or a lot of money with making cinematic, people could watch it for free. but u'll get a lot of awards and money by creating such a movies or series.

[@dolofonosesostrefis]

When we saw "The Call" last year we were so hyped and ready for an awesome void event! ... That never came, so we assumed it's because they were working on a new game mode for Star Guardians! ... That never came, so we assumed it's because they actually were working on something for Spirit Blossom! ... That never came, so obviously they had some kind of incredible Cinematic to hype us up for the next season right!? Yeah... that's the copium the community has been on. We've run out of stores.

[@peacepham7838]

There were a work for game mode last year, but all cancel out when game mode leader quit the job middle of the year.

[@aszher]

And now """"events"""" are just a shitty battle-pass you need to complete... by just playing normal games. It's complete trash. Or even worse, like the Eclipse event, you have a mini-battle-pass that you need to BUY capsules to complete it. doing missions only gives you ONE. You need to spend at least $650 to complete it 100%

[@AbelMusa]

This is the most accurate answer right here.

[@luminous3558]

Do people actually like the weird alt game modes? At that point just play a different game.

[@brunobatista5483]

@@luminous3558 At some point league alternative modes were actually good and fun, even Twisted treeline was a lot of fun, but now we only have howling abyss and summoner's rift

[@starboybellyjewel7524]

I don't play league but I watched all the previous cinematic and watching this new one is kinda depressing

[@Jabarri74]

Me too I'm off to watch them now :D, just not this one

[@TheGerrok]

The yearly cinematics for the new season are normally top tier, but this one felt like a teaser for an upcoming cinematic.

[@thewizard7099]

What do you mean you don’t like a fluttering butterfly echo chambering woke inspirational quotes for no apparent reason

[@angulinhiduje6093]

the sadest part to me is that the first "hype" moment with casters in the video was a play from faker 7 years ago, and they still try to milk it... it just shows how out of touch they are

[@keybladerift5295]

The main thing is that league has done like nothing all of 2022 after that cool trailer, and now they start off this year with a big nothing burger. It makes it feel like this year will give us even less.

[@gman7497]

They've got alot of stuff in the pipeline at the moment, multiple games, TV shows, etc. I think their departments are getting stretched thin and unfortunately that is gonna be evident somewhere. Promotion is important but getting games and other media developed is the bigger priority.

[@aryantzh2028]

chill, riot's artists team still busy with arcane season 2. cinematic is not as important as arcane, so they focused on arcane. u don't get loss if they get a bad cinematic or something, u can watch it free. but u'll get loss money and a lot of time if u watched bad arcane season 2.

[@aryantzh2028]

remember that the music director for riot is also directing arcane.

[@gman7497]

@@aryantzh2028 I mean Fortiche Studios is doing most of the animation but yeah Riots teams are still heavily involved with everything else. At the end of the day I'd rather have an amazing Arcane season 2 than a good hype trailer for a MobA that tons of people will play regardless.

[@luk4s56]

​@@aryantzh2028 arcane came out 2021, that year we got 3(asfar as i remember) ruination cinematics, burn it all down for worlds, lunar skin animation (the one with annie) and those i remember just off the top of my head. and all of them are top tier animations. this year we get this joke? they can squeeze a little animation in for a start of season. they simply didnt give a fuck untill it was too late same as with gamemode team team disolved they didnt even bother to look at the team responsable for it till people started to complain then went "oh we got noone there left? meh who cares"

[@sangeunlee8368]

That comment Asmon read is roasting like hell without any swear words. Legit.

[@j3nki541]

That comment was amazing, I agree.

[@Ex_Machina.]

I wouldnt call it a trailer more like a 3d benchmark animation

[@void_watcher1737]

It's not just that fueling the fire, 2022 was a whole year of drought of content, nothing but skins were givin that year And that the 2023 cinematic was so hyped for the new season, the gamemodes that are promised didn't return, the return of winter map was anticipated, but none came

[@zoom4897]

They should just release their dev/modding tools. Let the community fix their game they turned into dog shit.

[@LadyTsunade777]

It's so much worse when you compare it to prior years' cinematics; also, it's really important to note that every single line in the 2023 cinematic is literally just lines from the champions' voice lines.

[@elith6930]

It would honestly be way easier writing a random 12 line or however long poem for this cinematic than combing through all the champion lines for one. League players are not great creative writers, I guess.

[@Saucegawdd]

3:37 my fav part LMAO

[@Danny.0788]

"unprecedented circumstances" is corportate talk for "we dont have a good enough excuse, we didn't think you guys would complain this much, we're trying to band-aid the situation as quickly as possible, and no, you wont be happy about the fix either, too bad."

[@tommyhui67]

0:15 Asmongold sees the truth. It is a season 2013 cinematic. That's why.

[@XBoxGamer330]

That comment at the end was gold.

[@josephhakim2344]

“I wish the game was this cool” is a massive understatement

[@farttruster8715]

I love that league players don’t accept mediocrity like wow players do

[@backstabber3537]

u mean the most toxic game in this planet ?

[@josephnolan6323]

@@Bloodworia you're right it was pure dogshit, i agree

[@zometthecomet]

Yeah but in most of these LoL players houses if you get bad grades or don’t know math you get punished 😂 soooo … I never expected them to accept mediocre children as well! YO DO MATH 🧮 😂

[@zwojack7285]

except when it comes to playing the game

[@exeterra4825]

@@Bloodworia Last two expansions are literally the worst things blizzard has ever released.

[@mohamedel-gazzar5818]

You know what's scary? Is that rito is on the same trajectory that Blizzard was on back in the day. A great game studio turn on day, then "don't you guys have phones?" the next.

[@peacepham7838]

But they already have a phone game yeah?

[@yelv]

@@peacepham7838 that’s where we’ll have to go for actual content lol, wild rift has been getting more than league pc recently

[@Digiphoenix]

Ok, there are huge differences here. League doesn't change anything to the map. It's mainly just characters and item changes. Blizzard had an entire world to attempt to make above-mundane.

[@spaceowl9246]

@@Digiphoenix I honestly don't get your last sentence.

[@Mrholysymbol]

@@peacepham7838 two of them!

[@Aqual97]

I watched this video and the valorant video back to back and i realised what unprecedented circumstances they were talking about. Riot made everyone on the cinematic team to work on valorant and said "fuck it" to league😂😂

[@Diopside.]

Valorant and League teams are separated, look at the content it self, it's way differently built. To add about Valorant their cinematics went godly mode.

[@Clarity520]

@@Diopside. I guess we could say most of the budget went to Valorant team

[@SuseiNoGantia]

@@Clarity520 no last year both of them had great cinematics

[@SquaulDuNeant]

@@SuseiNoGantia +1

[@SquaulDuNeant]

@@Clarity520 make no sense they arent tiny inde

[@Botsuo]

"i wish the game was this cool" league players are sobbing

[@CodeValor]

The issue is that this trailer would take maybe 5 people an afternoon to make. You just make the level in UE5 using pre-existing assets, have the camera follow a path with certain timed triggers coded in, throw the voiceovers and misc sound bites, done. It's so insanely low effort compared to the previous years season start cinematics that there isn't even a comparison.

[@skyclaw36]

Damn asmon invested in league drama? My how he's grown

[@Hogsqueal]

fallen*

[@BoshyG]

@@Hogsqueal grow up

[@GhostMan407]

ok i thought it was ok, but then i watched all the old ones and jesus christ. they have up

[@careL3SSworld]

I think the more obvious answer is that alot of the lead and talented staff are on others projects valo mmo project L and league is just in the back burner printing money which is unfortunately but let's hope it's worth them looking bad on the main stage rn and hurting consumers view on riot

[@vannchansenany10d32]

They made wild rift valorant LoR TFT and even that ruination game and they still delivered on great cinematics let’s be real its definitely the management at league screwing the game over

[@davidhenson1316]

Its not an answer. It's a lame excuse. And it's what riot has been doing for a few years now.

[@thomasace2547]

This just looks like an Unreal 5 Side Trailer for LoL

[@gman7497]

Wow, this is the first I've seen of this. Idk what to think even lol. Tbh there must be some other thing that they're working on that's tying up their time, coz this was just so below their usual standard. Not that it's terrible, it's just so generic and 'meh' Oh well, they gave me Arcane and all the other badass cinematics up until now, plus Valorant, an upcoming fighting game, and an mmo in development. I will give them a bit of leeway this time. It still is really surprising though, they barely tried on this.

[@DatNguyen98211]

The Lack of attention Riot is giving to League really showed with this, looking at their other child then look at this, boring event, uninterest champion, recycle game mode and now bad cinematic after the valorant awesome ones, lack of employee. It is sad to see their flag ship game became like this

[@gman7497]

@@DatNguyen98211 it's unfortunate but based on all the other shit the have going on and the fact that they don't have infinite employees or partners to collaborate with, I definitely get why something like this could happen. If they really are having a time/personnel crunch, a promotional teaser is not the highest priority compared to actual game and media projects that will benefit them infinitely more than a hype trailer.

[@snowpegasi]

LoL got nothing all of 2022, our big event was a visual novel locked behind boring grindy missions that bugged out so hard that they just unlocked it all half way through, and PC got the worst version of the event as Wild Rift got the best skins and actual fun challenges, they slowed down champ releases, reworks and VGUs, absolutely lied to us about bringing back a fan favorite gamemode only to tell us it'll come out this year shortly before they just dissolved the whole gamemode team straight out, they completely gave up on new season changes when they only gave us a few new items for only one class as opposed to every year previous where they would make massive sweeping changes to the game to keep it feeling fresh, also arcane was made by a different studio from their cinematics studio, and even then Riot is no stranger to outsourcing cinematics to 3rd party studios, a year of nothing and lies only to have this be our look into the coming season absolutely kills any hope I have for things getting better, hell they even managed to kill Necrit's faith in them and he's perhaps the most positive member of the league community.

[@gman7497]

@@snowpegasi Fortiche did alottt of their cinematics work even as they were planning Arcane out, Riot really trusts them as partners and I'm sure they don't want to just hire anyone to do them. The third parties they work with are probably highly regarded and sought after so it's very possible that no one they normally worked with could spare the time to do the trailer. It does suck that this happened after a sub-par LoL year and I get the frustration, for sure. Ultimately though I think by putting energy into these other projects, it increases the chances they will be really great and more successful games and other media will mean revenue can potentially be put back into LoL. I think Riot is looking ahead long term and diversifying coz LoL can't last forever. Seems smart to me.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@snowpegasi I don't even think the scaling down is a bad thing. Scaling a game too high makes it unsustainable, and the MOBA bubble popped years ago, so they need to find a more balanced development pace that can be sustained for years to come. Everyone says "they got so much money they can afford it" but there is no reality where a company of this size operates a huge live service game at a loss, because that's millions in resources that could instead go to a project that does not operate at a loss. LoL is not so popular that Riot can just operate it as a loss lead for their company. LoL players have had unrealistic and shortsighted expectations for basically the entire lifespan of the game, so it's not surprising that they decided to riot(ha) over what is actually pretty weak speculation.

[@JJS563]

"I wish the game was this cool!" Me too bro, me too

[@karlklein2263]

"I wish the game was this cool" nailed it

[@dampintellect]

Yeah the issue isn't the trailer itself. If someone else made it, it would be seen as ok, not great, but ok. The issue is it's the official riot trailer and it didn't live up to expectations. I think that if riot had just said, we lost the work on our trailer and have to start over, so we don't have the trailer ready yet, it will be out when it's ready. People would have been like, that's alright, it happens. I think they should have repurposed thier new skin line trailer, it would have been better received as a new season trailer, and it would have promoted the skins.

[@everlastiny]

First the worlds song, now the new season cinematic. Is this a sign?

[@mrlizardman8000]

I don't care if they cut how much money and staff they have for LoL, for as long as they redirect what they cut to projects like Arcane and LoL MMO.

[@SuitorASMR]

I mean the first Cinematic actually feels like its on par with the game the second one looks like it could be attached to a pretty good game

[@crowmaster9652]

2:06 this reminds of me spaceballs when dark helmet says because good is dumb

[@sebastianpenales2861]

Dota 2 Players : Wow they have cinematics?

[@therrogue1193]

Advertisement? What's that? Never heard of it. Joking aside tho I rather live with Dota client and Icefrog balancing rather than League shenanigans any day

[@adamhercik581]

Yeah, honestly, seeing this, I think the players' criticisms are pretty misdirected. Being ready to flip shit over a cinematic but hardcore defending League's in-game negatives and shortcommings seems like they don't have their priorities in order.

[@nltiro3387]

Valve really fucked up, if Dota actually had 300-600k players it would be fine but the amount of smurfs/ALTs/bots means the real number isn't even close, and if it somehow is, the conduct and smurf system /community is so dogshit and split that it feels like there's 10k players max. Personally I queue into the same people over and over and I'm only 6k, not even half way to the top mmr

[@nltiro3387]

I still can't believe they took so long to try and fix dota, just to make it worse, then eventually with the community, make a proper new player experience when it's already too.. great waste of time on artifact and this trashy battlepass, valve had the opportunity to be successful and praised like riot, far more so even considering the 10-20years prior. Instead they sat on their fat steam stacks in complacency.

[@adamhercik581]

@@nltiro3387 Not really, Dota is good. They just don't advertise it. Bloodstone is the only thing that's annoying now. Before that, the worst things were the patches with shrines. Most bad decisions got reverted. The game quality itself is very good if you excuse some post-Battle pass bugs. The BP itself was actually the most generous one in ages if you count in part 2, part 1 sucked for its time, that's true.

[@terryqiu17]

I’m assuming the circumstances we’re having to make the new valorant episode trailer 😂

[@l0lzor123]

At least they responded within a day, the annoying part is that they thought they could get away with it, shouldve just come clean beforehand

[@ANiCKiN]

Riot seems to forget who/what made them. League is still relevant not as much as it was but still.

[@Vod_MacDuff]

Lol, that beep at 6 seconds to keep the video monitized.

[@Zorbotics]

Damn imagine the quality not being top notch while the studio is also working to get arcane S2 out in a fraction of the time it took them to make season 1

[@cherno8336]

imagine having no idea of what you are talking about. oh wait you dont need to imagine it

[@Zorbotics]

@@cherno8336 whiny little babies is what im talking about but its a well known fact that the studio behind the cinematics is also the studio behind the arcane series look it up

[@jokin8247]

Honestly if they just had ghost of Champs fighting some of those scenes they alluded to with the audio people probably would have been fine with it tbh.

[@dinnyskips]

Really good example of how if you're primed to think something is bad, you're more likely to think it's bad. The cinematic was fine, it's an intro cinematic for a new ranked season. It did what it was meant to do.

[@Kornn66]

Yeah i dont get what the big deal is.

[@Jabarri74]

I don't even play lol but I love the cinematics. This one was piss poor, no-one needed to tell me that. Wheres the characters? The music etc?

[@austinharlow8672]

its all relative to their others

[@maxumis1]

It’s not necessarily a bad cinematic, it’s just such a huge downgrade from all of their previous cinematic releases. It’s recycles voice lines and 2 moments from pro play which shouldn’t even be what ranked is about. If this was released for like the LCS season opening cinematic I don’t think anyone would mind, but it’s just so out of place after years of champion and lore focused cinematics that just got better and better over time.

[@Jabarri74]

@@maxumis1 Its a problem they created, by making high quality cinematics every year one has to expect another one along the same lines, not a 3d rendered model of the world and random lec commentary

[@Ch1llUP]

I FEEL like they 100% put some of the future MMo in this cinematic

[@vidyagametourist]

It's not "bad", it's just too dramatic and sort of doesn't make sense. It's too "arty" and focused on being creative or clever, as opposed to just being a trailer for a game season.

[@galax12370]

but not bad!

[@smolpp585]

I'm not sure about it being too dramatic, seems like it would benefit more from being dramatic

[@KlintKaras]

Imo it's bad... lol

[@warcheddar4163]

dude its an unreal 5 tech demo with an r/iam14andthisisdeep poem

[@ftb282]

yeah sorry... its bad. especially with how top tier the past season cinematics were.

[@jozokrstanovic9040]

I just want to point out that "A Twist of Fate", a cinematic Riot released 9 YEARS AGO is 100 times better than the one released in 2023 when Riot is supposedly at the peak as a game development firm.

[@markpaloma3914]

The cinematic is a massive downgrade but holy the poem on the cinematic makes no sense and cringe.

[@warcheddar4163]

they tried to make a cool poem out of champion voicelines but it honestly sounds like something youd find on r/iam14andthisisdeep

[@ForTheOmnissiah]

The voice in the trailer is literally just a voice actor reading off in-game voicelines of random champions in the game... no seriously. The lines she says are literally just randomly selected lines from different characters. The epitome of lazy and not giving a shit.

[@markpaloma3914]

@@ForTheOmnissiah if i didnt listen to it again i wouldnt have believed you

[@Plamler]

He didn't even talk about LCS getting pushed to weekday afternoons which is what pissed off the majority of content creators and players/fans.

[@Luna-ii4mx]

I think its weird to freak out over this. I wish Blizz communicated like that. Wow players have been so neglected and especially freaked out when Sylvanas burned the tree yet they dont make any statement. Pisses me off. We just gotta eat the shit they give us. Same with Ow1 and 2

[@warcheddar4163]

the main problem isnt the cinematic itself, but what it represents. Riot has been taking more and more resources out of the fun parts of league and been putting that into skins. The game modes team was dissolved to work on skins. Alot of the narrative writers were fired to cut costs. And then they cant even be bothered to give us our yearly cinematic? And then less then a day after the release of this shit they release a high quality cinematic ... for a skin line.

[@HackerArmy03]

@@warcheddar4163 Pretty much this. From events, champions, skins, and so many more are being taken from League. It's not just the cinematic itself, but their investment in said game is being redirected to their other projects and games (I.e, Valorant, Project L, Their MMO, etc.)

[@jusifer3445]

Don't forget what they did to the Heroes of the storm community

[@BowserisOK]

@@HackerArmy03 If they're saying that this is being redirected to MMO and Project L, then they need to fucking show it, and not tell. Either show the MMO teaser, otherwise they're lying and I'm tired of the lies.

[@HackerArmy03]

@@BowserisOK They didn't say it per se, but the action shows it all. Even certain rioters are quite angry and were seen sharing sad memes lol.

[@ScibbieGames]

Bro this was literally just a floating camera flying through an Unreal Engine rendition of the league map with some random effects thrown in.

[@dfg12382]

People still think developing a moba is linear progression and it is not. LoL has been developed since 2009 and it is worked out to death by now. Is it a better game today, after 14 years, than it was after 4 years? To me it's not, just different. They can change jungle mobs, add the 213th champ, mix the items up. I prefered the game when it had 50-70 champs, having some triple digit number there never made the game better for me, just more convoluted (especially as the meta recycles just 20 champs most of the time). The game has reached it's qualitative peak many years ago. Objectively it won't get any better. No matter where Riot puts the focus.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

Sounds like you quit years ago and just assumed the rest, doesn't match my experience at all.

[@iurirafael]

1:51 dancing trees in the bacground

[@MUTV2]

Its tough because you dont want to be mean to a kid trying their best but the voice acting just wasnt right.

[@Lamren]

No amount of voice acting could have saved that cinematic regardless. It looked like a teaser at best. I'm not complaining though, I enjoy the game and they have to miss the mark on their cinematics sometimes I guess.

[@KineticSymphony]

Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate not wanting to be rude but I agree it didn't really feel right. I think whoever is voicing it has a good voice but not best suited for a higher emotion narration like this. Still, no matter who voiced it, wouldn't have felt great because the script was off.

[@ch1dd]

All I can think of is there's a chance the voice acting was made for a different video where it would be better, yet this empty video they released made it completely out of place. Or, they made everything last minute and it just sucks.

[@tommytommy7535]

she was literally powder, va was fine

[@MUTV2]

@@tommytommy7535 Well thats good that she has had success. Doesnt excuse that it just wasnt right.

[@InfernoVor]

The problem is everything in league recently on top of the trailer. Like after the 2022 trailer it's been a downward spiral. There haven't been new events, new lore updates, they messed up the new season too with barely anything announced, the gamemode team was essentially disbanded and started anew, etc. Essentially a lot of bad shit happened for league recently and then we had them not even make a cinematic like usual. It essentially gave the feeling of "league is done" that's why the cinematic flopped so hard

[@spaceowl9246]

Honest question, why would anyone care about lore in a MOBA game?

[@motivateddad]

@@spaceowl9246 everyone because they are going to make a franchise with MMOs, RPGs, TV shows and every thing under the sun, genius.

[@TheTailow]

@@spaceowl9246 Because the lore is top tier.

[@stefanmilovanov3398]

@@TheTailow Yikes

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@motivateddad I've been playing since 2010 and I still don't give a shit about any of that, "genius". The markets are not the same, most players don't know or care about lore, it's a competitive PvP game focused on gameplay, and tons of non-players watched Arcane. They just cross pollenate marketing because it's effective for both sides.

[@justmoody5797]

From an insider they said that they didn't want to let the old guys who made the last cinematic do it this year giving it to a new diverse team while the old team working on something else.

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

So it's a classical diversity fail. No wonder it's mainly old rehashed stuff as they are creatively bankrupt.

[@White__Ink]

Source?

[@PapasGatito]

​@@xXDESTINYMBXx dude chill, it's not even a proven fact, just some gossip you heard from a random guy who said a random employee said it

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@xXDESTINYMBXx lmao bigots always on a hair trigger to hate minorities for any reason

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

@@RobotMasterSplash lol your comment is shadowbanned

[@Kittsuera]

that comment at the end was a gold tier burn. you could feel the scorching heat coming off every line through the monitor.

[@luisibarra7656]

From this cinematic, and the tweets seen here, i think League has served its purpose to the company, and whatever resources they use to invest on it, are no longer paying off, so they're just redirecting them to their other IPs, which is fine and understandable. You guys on the other hand still latched onto League like there isn't anything better, or feel the need to keep playing for whatever reason that only you see relevant have some problems, stop, it's been a decade, there's nothing new here to expect, if anything hope those resources are going towards their MMO which can still expand its lore and world.

[@tlanimass952]

You do realize League is still their biggest game and by far the best revenue generator for them, right?

[@gman7497]

I'm 100% for it. I know people love League but it's not exactly welcoming to people who just love the lore. Arcane has brought in alot of casual interest in Runeterra as a setting, and there are more accessible means of engaging that interest, ie the upcoming fighter and the mmo, not to mention LoR.

[@luisibarra7656]

@@tlanimass952 Yes, by cosmetics, which is why the new skins cinematic they revealed a day after has better quality than the game's itself, which is what I was saying. Theres probably nothing big or really new coming anymore for league like the gamemodes and events they used to make.

[@tlanimass952]

@@luisibarra7656 To sell the skins you need the players that actually play the game.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@luisibarra7656 typical doomer take

[@chettonex]

When PR has to say 3 or 4 times the word "investment" in less than 5 tweets it means they are in full budget mode and they were trying to cut corners.

[@silluete]

Bad cinematic? Nah. Bad voice over? Yes.

[@Magnesius]

nah, the voice over was fine. It was just an empty cinematic which seemed closer to that of a trailer for a movie or something.

[@TheLoos3Goos33]

It's a bad cinematic. Don't kid yourself. Or have you not watched any of the others? This is so lazy in comparison.

[@svenwagner4717]

Nothing wrong at all with the voice over. Considering how Riot has been praised for reinventing its cinematic 'game' each time, delivering unique and amazing work, this cinematic stands out in a negative way. It has the charme of a tech demo.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

bad cinematic? yes. this shit is easily done in UE5 in a week by a single animator.

[@Martin-yh7vi]

The script was bad. The VA tried their best with what they had. The writing was just cringe because it was champion quotes forcefully mashed together.

[@nazaG_89]

lmao the intro was like putting together rocks and mountain assets from the unreal library and called it a day, this was made in 2 days

[@supertoaster57]

I've been a fan of league for over 20 years and I've never been so disappointed in my life

[@Miranox2]

The game was released 13 years ago.

[@ivangraypiece]

@@Miranox2 lol

[@lifeiaskedfor]

This comment is very underrated. I love it so much

[@Lappasm4n]

@@Miranox2 lmao, exposed hack

[@youmeandgravity]

It’s kind of insane that blizzard is doing okay right now in the eyes of the community and riot is getting absolutely shot the fuck up by their community rn

[@deathwrow9652]

Cause Blizz keeps improving the new expansion for WoW every week, or even day. Patching visual problems that existed 6 years ago that they forgot people complained about because their visual que game was so weak back then....i mean its not something we're used to, and the only reason to change the way this line looks is to help people not die and be frustrated...Feels like they care about the player. Or at least, they care enough to fix something that is causing problems that shouldnt be hard to fix.

[@eXvlslon]

Nothing can bet WoW disappointment :')

[@esprika92]

i dont get why they didn't just say they had problems with the new cinematic and postponed or even canceled, people would understand and take it way better than the crap we ended with. at least they addresed it and gave a response quickly, thats more than we had in the last 5 years with blizzards so

[@gman7497]

I think they would have been screwed either way tbh. And yeah, you could say that they could have made a statement explaining the situation beforehand but it seems like alot of the fanbase wouldn't have bought into that either so. Idk.

[@aryantzh2028]

chill, riot's artists team still busy with arcane season 2. cinematic is not as important as arcane, so they focused on arcane. u don't get loss if they get a bad cinematic or something, u can watch it free. but u'll get loss money and a lot of time if u watched bad arcane season 2.

[@MrEvans1]

Copium at its finest

[@stefan1360]

Stop copy pasting the same comment to defend this shit lmao

[@MaximumT88]

Arcane is literally not animated by Riot, it is animated by Fortiche who were doing commercials and other netflix shows prior to Arcane. Riot had zero play in this apart from supervising

[@xorea7232]

it feels so weird to hear censors over asmon lmfaoo fu youtube

[@peytonmcclain6668]

first

[@Burlehmangus]

The worst part is the janky awkward camera panning before it shoots off into the sun at the end….so weird

[@HiImRawr]

I think the people who say league is dying are teenagers who recently started. For the last 6-7 years people say league is dead or dying every 2 months, but my queue is still between instant and 1min long across multiple game modes. League is one of the most consistently successful games of all time.

[@styxzero1675]

I think they are also mad that alot of beloved casters from the LCS being fired, feels like riot is downsizing for more profit margins. First less money on casters, now less on cinematics.

[@urosprodic137]

First cinematic was random talking second is random fighting :/

[@Itsjwon]

They just basically use a 3D cam and just move it through the environment, like no other thing is happening

[@gonwyte8534]

Honestly, I don't get it. 1st cinematic: vague 2nd cinematic: just some flashy fight scenes As someone who used to play the game 6+ years ago I'm just looking at this purely from a visual/thearrical perspective and... They're just cinematics. I'd laugh my ass off if they were teasing a new engine and they literally just showed the in-game overhaul of summoner's rift and people got upset.

[@jinz0]

it is funny how it used to be better on the internet because there was no commercials and swearing was not bleeped, now youtube it just old cable tv

[@Juice-chan]

Hope they see this as a wakeup call. League is still the thing that made them big

[@CaIasanctius]

a camera pan over a 3d render environment....a 3d environment that was made YEARS ago. the part of this trailer that took the most effort was uploading it on youtube.

[@sleepydragonzarinthal3533]

2022 you get a handie with no lotion, in 2023 you get lotion with no handie

[@thewallpersonified3152]

From the outside looking in it might not seem too bad, but that's a video concept that someone in the community came up with 3 years ago, the poem is just voice lines from different champions in the game, and the music in the background is just from a previous cinematic. It's not original at all.

[@Bananchy]

The only thing that would have made this even better is if he looked at the new Lunar cinematic as well.

[@aqdjbcr]

It’s like the animation team forgot to add the character models into the video

[@tommytherunner]

As someone who hasn't played much league (log on once every 3-6 months, play a few arams then forget about it) the last few years, but would forget to sleep/eat for 2-3 days at a time during season 3...I feel that last comment so fucking hard.

[@_Libosido]

It looks like as a teaser for great tutorial into the game, what the game haven't.

[@Zephyr_Havoc]

I swear I've heard the lines used in the 2023 trailer somewhere before. Like, it sounds straight ripped from something.

[@tash1205]

thing is-a day after publishing the apology, riot releases a SKINLINE cinematic that's just leagues above what we were given for the cinematic that was, you know, supposed to kick off 2023. which really shows where their prorities nowadays lay.

[@Hemlocker]

Honestly I think the players would have been less mad if Riot just said "sorry but no cinematic this year, we're putting all our resources into Arcane, the MMO & Project L"

[@gman7497]

Probably what they should have done, but they would have gotten heat either way, tbh.

[@_Aarius_]

lol brb rewatching the call

[@Shigazane]

The right choice would have been a public announcement and delay of the trailer. They literally slapped a voice over through an hd fly through of summoners rift with intern camera angles. Lol

[@gasaiyuno6021]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm fine with the lack of League content if it means Riot is giving their all to the other projects. I'd give anything for a GOOD and competitive League fighting game(Project hoping), same goes for the MMO. These new projects are finally giving the fans a chance to see the League lore be expanded and branch to different avenues and be somewhat fully realized. It'd be a very much needed and beloved fresh start, casual fans that don't enjoy the game itself can enjoy the other media and love the lore from it.

[@gman7497]

100% agree. I bet alot of their writers and creatives are thrilled to be working on projects where the lore actually is woven into the game, not just attached to it after the fact.

[@therrogue1193]

Except most people play League because of (wait for it) ...... For LEAGUE. They don't give a crap about some Valorant teaser or MMO that they won't even played. League players has all of their rights to be pissed if they cut corner for other projects.

[@gman7497]

@@therrogue1193 that's not always gonna be the case though, no game lasts forever. I honestly doubt they'll ever get rid of League so idk what everyone is do worried about, but if Riot wants to be truly successful they need to expand into other audiences eventually. Yall gotta think of the bigger picture.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@therrogue1193 What a selfish crybaby take, wow.

[@GamingHub1080p]

1:58 This reminded me of the whole Twitch Deer situation o.O Anyone else?

[@nocivolive]

He shouild see the valorant skin trailer or even the League skin trailer that we got 1 day later. What a difference...

[@ILoveCiniminis]

It reminds me of that 9-year-old girl writing in her diary how horrible her playmates were to her today and that she'll not let it slide that easily.

[@Velken_Iakov]

hey editors: the algorythim can still detect and demonetize/age restrict videos from the censor BEEP, I recommend using another audio instead of BEEP

[@Douglas-nt7jd]

She said like 5 back to back pantheon quotes

[@ProvaBeK]

It's like everyone at riot is busy working on their mmo so they had the janitor make this cinematic

[@tinypixiebread]

Riot now have lot of project and games in their hands, lot of LoL players fear thatRiot will forget about LoL and invest all in future games and leave LoL dry to the death

[@sp00l]

It just looks like they forgot to turn on all the character models before rendering

[@Ariverfish]

As someone who quit League years ago, I'm relieved I don't understand any of this, lmao. Therapy works, guys, people should try it sometime.

[@oopomopoo]

"I do not fear the darkness." "I will brave the shadows." There's no need to be brave if you don't have fear. You don't brave the trip to the kitchen because theres no fear.