New Low Energy Street Lighting

Southern Electrical Contracting have the contract to maintain and upgrade street lighting in most parts of the UK it seems, at the moment they are replacing or retro fitting street lights for new Low Energy types and not only that they are no longer independant with a photocell on top, but have been replaced by a radio controlled system Wi-Mac this means that all the street lights in an area up to 250 can be switched on by one node ( main controller with photocell which can be controlled by a GPRS signal for switching patterns or dimming facilities over night reducing costs to your council.
These new low energy lamps made by Philips are smaller in size , are controlled by electronic control gear instead of ballasts or transformersand burn much brighter for the slight increase in wattage and can now be dimmed and monitored by local authorities for failure and efficiency.

[@halowraith1]

not long now before our streets are bathed in cold, unwelcoming bright white light rather than the brilliant orange/yellow of sodium. i wouldn't mind so much if they put amber filters over the lamps, but i also wouldnt mind if all the LEDS broke and we had no other choice than to go back to LPS.

[@thelightingenthusiast]

And besides, SOX was just as efficient as LED. Who cares if their color rendering index is poor? The new LED’s are mostly harsh and way too bright.

[@djm5k]

Many municipalities are specifying 2700K and 3000K LED modules for roadway lighting in residential and some commercial areas which give off a warmer incandescent or halogen color of light which is not as annoying as the 4000K and 5000K LED fixtures.

[@subway5411]

That old SOX streetlight was actually more efficient then the new LED streetlight.

[@grah84mck]

it's wasn't as a light engineer the old SOX r a nightmare.

[@subway5411]

How many watts would this (appears to be) Metal halide fixture take then?

[@grah84mck]

+subway5411 is it a double or single chamber

[@subway5411]

What do you mean by chamber?

[@grah84mck]

50 watts or it will tell u on the lamp or bulb but as I've not fitted any of these nor use them

[@tomjardine100]

I much prefer the old sox street lights. The led ones look horrible, and are quite dim as they only lit a certain area

[@murdomaclean3449]

Tom Jardine I agree with you about LED street lights as they are ugly to look at and they emit is to blue. The LED street light head have no style whatsoever.

[@fredflintstone1024]

We are on the third generation of street lights here in the village, low pressure sodium aka Sox, then HPS with dimming which didn’t last for very long, more powerful lamp at around 60 watt I think as lower outputs are not dimmable, and now we are gradually getting LED retro fitted ones, same colour rendering as the HPS but they are LED, a simply 5 minute gear tray swap it seems.

[@StreetLights123]

I'm glad that I collect street lights so I can keep some uk history.

[@fredflintstone1024]

west sussex street lighting collector in Cornwall it seems we have the newest stock of streetlights, compared to most other parts of the Uk, there are a few small villages and hamlets that have the odd sox luminaries still in existence and they get maintained too.

[@StreetLights123]

@@fredflintstone1024 yeah I will miss all of the old st lights. Also I have both of them in the collection. Grate video btw

[@StreetlightsOfSander]

This is not an Iridium but a Schréder (Urbis) Evolo lantern.

[@tobiasvandien3277]

Sander Sloots in Nederland zijn er erg veel. vooral in gelderland

[@leostechnikkanal]

The funny thing is that the old low pressure sodium streetlight was more efficient than the high pressure discharge lamp that was put in its place

[@jamiejones7751108]

They have them on nearly every main road in rotherham uk and I've already see some that don't work and on my way to work at 5:30am a lot have been switched off even though it's still very dark. Infact I'm sure I saw them fitting some of Them Thursday morning at 5:30am!!!

[@Ozzy-does-stuff]

😪 really does hurt me to see these poor things removed from service even when they have years left in there service life

[@fredflintstone1024]

Totally agree, replaced by new technology and using a more powerful lamp in order to dim them to the sort of output which they have just replaced, makes no sense whatsoever, and plus the fact they discovered that dimming the new lamps shortens the life of the new control gear and lamp making them unreliable, so they are only able to dim them to 75% instead of the intended 50% and when they fail it’s being replaced by LED technology which they are able to dim to 50% or less ! In Cornwall here there are so many types of LED variants so good and some not even worth turning on as the output is so bad it’s dangerous, they need to assess the light output required at ground level and make it a mandatory and safe level of light and roll that specification out county wide, at least with the old technology you had a more specific and regulated output uniform in output rather than the wishy washy output of all these LED variants. Son or Sox lamps i like them both, sox highly efficient on quieter roads and Son for busier roads !!

[@TheSoxmania]

why they waste money doing this is beyond me, SOX is a very efficient lamp, it's lumen output does not diminish with time unlike fluorescent or SON, all they need to do is clean them at least every few months, replace a photocell every few years, or very rarely a lamp, the new lights just burn out after a year, we had a load of these put up and you can guarrantee that you see the cherrypicker out at least once a week pulling apart the damn near brand new lights to repair the flaming things!

[@jamesrichards6038]

TheSOXMania agreed

[@guy4sling]

Having just got back from cornwall, i noticed many of the street lights are these new nice white lights, much better than our orange ones,.

[@fredflintstone1024]

Thats progress for you if you can call it that, but the main advantage of these new light fittings is now they are dimmable and also they can monitor all of the lamps remotely !! with a Wi_mac Wifi system that links them all up to a central node that does all the switching off of a group of 250 lamps that all link back to this node that you can see on the top of one of the lamp posts, whick looks like a normall photocell which it is but its bigger and has the radio switching bit incorporated

[@minecraftcommenter10]

They are doing Mini Iridium lights in my area I believe they are doing all 65000 lights excluding major highways(A14/A45)

[@ukpropaganda]

Utter wank - we have them and you cannot see properly. What a waste of money.

[@fredflintstone1024]

So we had 35Watt Sox lamps before in residential streets and now we have 60Watt types but they are dimmable, so where's the saving then ?? lol One of the main problems I find is the poor location of some of these lamp fixtures, such as in amongst trees and so some area's where these lamps have been upgraded are actually worse for the upgrade than when they had SOX or SON lamps which seemed to light the road up better Light source HID: 1 x MASTER CosmoWhite CPO-TW / PGZ12 / 45, 60, 90 W

[@fredflintstone1024]

The Lamp housing is the Iridium family of lights from Philips Lighting, and I have read that the 45W version of the lamp is not dimmable, but the Council here in Cornwall have been running trials dimming the lights in certain villages to see the effect of dimming and also for the reception of coments from the public as well, SEC have been busy here replacing most of the old SOX and SON types of lamps here in most of Cornwall over the past 3 years

[@thelightingenthusiast]

The new lantern in the video is not a Philips Iridium, it’s an Urbis Evolo.

[@sonconmas]

They do replace some SON with MH, but usually the the MH kills the old ballast! Where I live, they replace SOXs with post mount 70w halide ARC 80s

[@fredflintstone1024]

It's not being replaced by an LED equivalent but a new type high pressure son lamp that's can be dimmed.

[@mrglide7078]

Since this was filmed, I reckon it's been replaced again but with LED

[@fredflintstone1024]

It’s not been replaced with LED yet, but they are being replaced by LED when they fail as they found that when the council dimmed then to 50% it shortened the life of the gear and lamp, so they only dim them to 75% lol

[@sonconmas]

Is CDO metal halide then?

[@kevxsi16v]

@guy4sling you orange ones are much better, more efficient and will last a hell of a lot longer, There are about 20-30 per day dieing in cornwall. This is a problem that will only get worse with electronic ballasts.!

[@remikskrzypek4694]

wery fast work

[@daveytn]

Out with the sox in with the HID!

[@thelightingenthusiast]

The replacement lantern is an Urbis Evolo. I don’t think they run LED lamps but rather they run 45w CosmoPolis lamps on electronic gear.

[@fredflintstone1024]

They are HPS and they have been replacing them as they fail with retro fitted LED gear trays as they've had lamp reliability issues when they initially were dimming them down to 50%

[@thelightingenthusiast]

I thought these ran cosmo lamps?

[@sonconmas]

Where abouts are you in Norfolk?

[@farstarfilm]

Where can i buy one??

[@jamezpipe]

The evolo ones are made of electricity for hours i mean 5 years

[@James-4812]

Did that guy know that you were filming him? He kept looking over.

[@fredflintstone1024]

Not as far as I know, as I had left the camera filming by the window before he was up in front of it ! lol

[@James-4812]

I think he saw the camera because if you look at 1:04 and 5:14 he looked over at the window and you could see his eyes looking directly at the camera for a split second. lol

[@jamesrichards6038]

fredflintstone1024 didn’t you get the old lantern he took down?.

[@theenthusiasmboy2185]

And at 0:28

[@theenthusiasmboy2185]

@@James-4812 he probably did not care otherwise he would have gone to his house and asked why he was recording.

[@guy4sling]

Yes i remember back in the late 1960s when we had the old white street lights, then in my village (collingham) thay put new bluey/white lights up (forgot what them were called) but now horrible orange ones, Here in Farndon Nottinghamshire them just starting to put new white ones back up, horraa. you would think in this day & age new solar types would also be used. I will keep my eye open for new types of fittings, Some snazzy ones gone up on A5 near Tamworth but havnt seen them at night yet.

[@audiotron1003]

At steven hoelderich you can buy these 55w beta 2s and smaller beta 5s on ebay

[@jamesrichards6038]

audiotron1003 now everyone knows now less chance for us collectors

[@sonconmas]

ebBay, or just ask if you see a technician replacing one.

[@paullill5604]

Where’s the safety harness?

[@grah84mck]

Fitted ones like these to Our old lights in street, now there putting new poles in! Amey and north lanarkshire have no clue how to save money or keep lighting up to date.

[@41111Danny]

This is a shame, This is happening here in Durham aswell... it seems to be happening quite fast aswell, i fail to see how the council are saving money by doing this as they are £200 per fitting and £45+ for each cosmo lamp plus the ballasts fail early.. they need to just swap the SON lamps for Tubular MH Lamps imo

[@thelightingenthusiast]

Now they’re replacing the CosmoPolis lanterns they’ve installed not long ago for LED, thus wasting even more money!

[@fredflintstone1024]

Unfortunately i was not able to edit the video but wind it forward 5 minutes to see the man from SEC changing the fitting over !!

[@superdenisworld7694]

I have question what’s this song called

[@fredflintstone1024]

Cool Guy - YT kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXi4YoNsoaeKbLM

[@James-4812]

So what do they do with all the old lamps that they take down?

[@lukaslanchbery2876]

Dean Lawson They take them to the tip

[@thefatcontroller4094]

I think they are sold online, or broken up

[@thelightingenthusiast]

From what I’ve heard they go to some sort of recycling depot.

[@thefatcontroller4094]

SOX lamps are better than LED lamps, they are brighter, can lighten up more than stupid LEDs

[@cloviscareca]

LEDs are terrible. SOX are more efficient and have better light.

[@ghostking384]

Ikr

[@cengeb]

SOX LPS is the best roadway area lighting, no GLARE, best in bad weather, ya can actually SEE in rain. White light on roads is DUMB and dangerous.

[@zaydshafique4038]

i like the led light

[@ijulesy]

led is shit

[@thefatcontroller4094]

LED makes me throw up, how can you possibly like them, don't you prefer lights that go red to yellow, instead of that awful white, SOX lights are better

[@ghostking384]

Led lights made me feel sick

[@ghostking384]

Led light are trash

[@kevxsi16v]

Infact this is cornwall i bet any money!

[@Propottsy]

kevxsi16v yes it is I have the same street lights in Oldham

[@thefatcontroller4094]

I live in great chart (Near Ashford, Kent) and I still have SOX lanterns, YES!!! but 1-2 have been replaced with ugly LEDs, but Ashford, Ashford is covered with LED lights, there's at least 5-15 SOX lamps left in Ashford and they are thorn beta 5s and Philips MA60

[@gurtsmunta]

isle of wight going all led ,back to white light, no horrid orange light pollution ,all the light pointed at the ground

[@thepurdychannel8866]

The horrid orange light as you call it is monocromatic meaning it can be filtered out at observatories white light can't plus orange light is better 4 your eyes at night

[@thepurdychannel8866]

What a way to waste money that could have gone to road repairs

[@41111Danny]

@y0uTube235 Jog on!! your the one with the problem. I think you need to watch your mouth kidda cos Kev is NOT the one with the probolem YOU ARE... Your the one... Im Sorry but looking down this thread, its YOU that is leaving abusive Comments on EVERYBODYS posts.. Kev is a better electrician than you will ever be!!... His Employers are NOT forcing him to do stuff he is doing it because he LOVES IT... Now jog on cos you have me to deal with now if you dont leave Kev alone!!!

[@caroleterry6341]

Spy cams

[@okay8632]

radiation weapon installation, and led light,

[@victooria005]

i like LED because we get fixed LED lights and those are awosome

[@lewief3289]

There shit! LPS and SON/SON-T are the best!

[@thefatcontroller4094]

SOX = Best LED = worst

[@Wille-ju8jq]

I Hate The LPS & HPS Streetlight It Looks So Ugly

[@thelightingenthusiast]

What about CMH? I personally like LPS and HPS.