**OUTDATED** Red Hive in Depth Guide!

[@Random_BSS]

EDIT: When I said don't go red if you don't have dark scythe that is just not true at all lol. You just won't make like endgame honey but to get there you will need to go red. You can go red with petal wand and still make good honey. I would recommend going at least very early blue to make a good amount of starting honey to boost you through red faster especially if you can macro. Sorry about that. Also, I am getting a lot of corrections with the mutations, I have realized that move speed is by far the best mutation in the game so make sure to put that on vector and precise bees. Spicy bees I would do BAR. Move speed is probably second best. (please correct me if BAR is not the best for spicy). If there are any bees I am missing for move speed please let me know and I will try to be more accurate in the future. Thank you all I appreciate the support this video is getting!

[@giga_gorilla2712]

idont macro and i play in mobile thats why im going to red hive

[@Pxlarizar]

Literally am 3 minutes in, no bro this guide is so BAD😭 you don’t wanna get stuck as early red, and especially not with a SOLO SCORCH BLUD CLOT😭 wtf u gonna do with a scorch? Spam micros?

[@Random_BSS]

Thats, why I was saying to go blue if you can macro cuz it will be so much easier to progress through red. If you can't macro, going red will be difficult and especially if you didn't prepare. This video will not solve all of your problems. Don't blame the guide for the mistakes you made. This was just a video to point you in the right direction.

[@Pxlarizar]

@@Random_BSS I didn’t make any mistakes dude, I’m red with dark scythe and mostly gifted and granted, I haven’t been red for a long time at all, only a few weeks, but dude, you can spot these mistakes so easily. Going blue is better even without macro. What do you genuinely think an early red makes??!

[@Random_BSS]

@@Pxlarizar I would like to know how blue is better. Like you need to farm max bubble bloat for even the chance of a good boost. I don't know anyone that wants to spend 30-45 minutes of popping bubbles just to do a boost that won't even give you that much honey. Also I started as red and didn't run into any problems. As long as you stick with it you are fine.

[@zdeltaaaaaa]

don't forget that you should get x100 puffshroom blessing, mondo blessing and at least x40+ robo party blessing (if beesmas is active) before boosting good guide btw :)

[@Random_BSS]

Yep, that would definitely help make a lot more honey. Thanks!

[@kahowong2065]

Honestly the best guild I ever seen. I am a level 16 red hive with vicious bee and no fuzzy alt. I didn’t know what to do but this guild helped me a lot. ❤

[@Random_BSS]

Thank you! Please make sure to check my pinned comment because there are some corrections from other people about mistakes in this guide. It's some small things but I did get some info in correct in the video so just make sure you check that! Good luck!

[@KarimAlshalak]

lowk i been doing some very wrong things going red i was blue making like 1t over night and then i rolled for ssa and got scorch and saw not knowing it was a 2/5 amulet andi went red with only 3t honey and messed up i will try my best tho and use this guide to help me get back up thank you so much

[@Random_BSS]

No problem, feel free to ask any questions!

[@Someguy-c7m]

I never went blue this will help alot

[@stefanstankov5674]

btw its recommended to go red on lvl 18-20

[@Croissant000]

I was a full blue hive as of yesterday and decided to go red today. After switching, many people have told me to stick with blue for early-late game or at least until your hive is lvl 18 as it's easier to make Honey. I have 1t left (I had 3.4t) from my honeyday boosting (I will probably never get that amount again) which would be enough to switch me back to blue, should I or should I not and why? I also have 0 gifted spicy's, precise, or vector bees and im not quite sure what to do. My hive is lvl 15 with 2 lvl 16's btw. Edit: I may have switched too early lemme know if you have any ideas to improve, I can spend the 1t if I have to to switch back im just trying to avoid it.

[@Random_BSS]

@@Croissant000 hmmm yea that's a tricky situation. 1T isn't enough to switch back to blue and boost with red will be hard with no gifted. I would recommend trying to get as many gifted spicy and precise as you can using strawberries and macro for them if you don't have very many. If you can't macro you might be cooked im not going to lie 💀. If you don't have a good SSA try to at least get scorched and maybe a scorch saw with the 1T honey. It's going to be difficult to get out of early red with no gifted or anything like that so it's going to be a bit before you make good honey again. Gifted and good SSA are the top priority though. I wouldn't switch back to blue because you won't have enough honey to and will get stuck with half red and half blue. Let me know if you have any more questions

[@Croissant000]

@@Random_BSS alr ty for the help I think I’ll stick with red for now, make as much honey as I can and make the switch back to blue, do you think it would be better to stick with red until I get better amulets like stump snail and stick bug or should I just skip that and prioritize making money to switch back

[@Random_BSS]

@@Croissant000 I would honestly not switch back if your main goal is to be red. You already have the bees and just need gifted. If you switch back you will need a solid amount of gifted and switching would cause it to be a waste. If you stick with red (if that's your main goal) you can only go up from here and will eventually be making better honey than you were with blue

[@Croissant000]

@@Random_BSS fair point I didn’t really think about it in that way ty I’ll stick with red and work towards gifted bees and eventually dark scythe as well as ssa double passive

[@Croissant000]

@@Random_BSS ty for the help

[@arwahameid9682]

thx you bro very much

[@SkaiScripts]

i went red with only 5 trillion honey and got a 4/5 Scorch and saw im now making over 50t macroing as red just remember this took time a lot of time

[@Random_BSS]

@@SkaiScripts Do you just macro and the pepper? I haven't really tried macroing with red for honey. How long did it take you to make 50T?

[@SkaiScripts]

@Random_BSS I mean when I just became red I made 1t overnight but as I made more be gifted and my hive became lvl 17 I started hitting the 5t daily and boosting with around 8 gifted spice and 2 gifted precise and 8 gifted vector I saw 50t honey in 1 boost as lvl 17 with no honeyday or festive bean

[@SkaiScripts]

@Random_BSS red is good for macroing after all it's just off with a couple trillion I mean if you had the perfect hive you could make more then blue with boost or without

[@nyonplayz4110]

Go blue until 18 and macroing is more needed in red ask the top players

[@Random_BSS]

Yes I completely agree. But im a little confused why does red need macro more than blue? You make the most honey from active boosting no?

[@proalizedd8371]

@@Random_BSSred needs lots more mats for boosing like keeping alts stocked up on gumdrops and other things they also need hundreds of stingers

[@Random_BSS]

Yeah but isn't that like every color? I would say macroing is still very important but blue makes honey because of macroing, while red and white can boost without, just a lot more setup is needed. I don't think macroing is more necessary in red than blue. For top players maybe, but for everyone else probs not.

[@nyonplayz4110]

@@Random_BSSEven tho they boost they need lots of preperstion

[@localdumpster]

Hi I have a question what do flames do? I know it builds up scrorching star but does it do something else?

[@overlordteam0024]

precise bee ability collects 2x more pollen with max flame heat

[@Random_BSS]

Yea, flames collect pollen when on the field, do a bit of damage to mobs around them, and while near the flames they grant flame heat. The flame heat boosts attack and red pollen (up to 2x red pollen and 25% attack). If you pick up the flame fuel ability token (from gifted spicy bees) it will increase the amount of time the flames are on the field, pollen they collect, and converts a ton from your bag. It's one of the main ways red converts. Hope this helps and feel free to ask anything else!

[@ChaoticNightmares1]

"Don’t go blue as you won’t make honey without macro". No hate but I disagree, even without macro blue is the best starting hive as it is insanely cheap all you need is solo pop and early build no fully gifted mythic hive required. Boosting may not make a lot but no boost grinding with both comforting, satisfying nectars and decent balloon blessing still makes more honey than early red and white hives.

[@Random_BSS]

All good I am open to criticism with an open mind. I do see how that would def be better than starting red. You make a very good point. Blue would probably be best for starting out even if your not committing to it and would help you progress through red faster. I will change that in my corrects now thank you!

[@shelk22]

Did you ever release the beeuip guide?

[@Random_BSS]

@@shelk22 Not yet. But I plan to soon. I'll link it to this video or you can just sub with notifs and it will tell you when I post it

[@MagicSandwiches67]

i went red hive, and don't know what to do, I have 55 days of playtime, I have 7 spicys, 11 precises, 48 bees. And I'm just underleveled for red hive, I don't know how to get back. Can I have some help?

[@Random_BSS]

To be honest, it sounds like the best plan is just commit to red. You almost have the right red mythic ratio and you just need some vectors. You should be making good honey even if your bees are under level. You might just have to commit to red and actively play and boost as much as you can to earn honey. If you can macro and want to go blue to earn idle honey you can do that or you can stick with red if you like active play. Also I would try and make sure that most if not all quest lines are done (mainly spirit) so you don't struggle with opposite color pollen quests. Hope this cleared it up a little and please feel free to ask anymore questions!

[@MagicSandwiches67]

@@Random_BSS yo i just got scorch saw in like 200b honey, i should cook even more in my boosts now edit: i fixed the vector bees, and now my mythic count is 10 precise, 6 spicy, 1 fuzzy, 1 buoyant, 3 tads, 5 vectors

[@slowedandreverbX]

a 3/5 scorch saw without red boost and a 5/5 scorch which one would be better

[@Random_BSS]

It kinda depends where you are. Saw is mainly for converting, so if you noticed you keep filling up without saw then I would do saw. If your bag isn't filling up too much I would get a 5/5 scorch. The main stats you want on your SSA for red is Red Pollen, BAR, and crit. I would say those are the most important, then bee gather and normal pollen. Also if you don't boost that often, I would maybe go for saw just so you can use it for other stuff (ex: stick bug, ant challenge, robo, retro that sorta stuff).

[@bruh_bruh4003]

I got a 4/5 scorch saw amulet but no red pollen and I got like 3t should I gamble for better or upgrade my hive​@@Random_BSS

[@nuggetrisuYT]

scorch saw will always be better than solo scorch

[@nitrodide]

At what point should I switch from blue to red? I just got ssa and don’t want to go blue for long, how much honey should I save up to switch?

[@zaruto1427]

for me you should save up honey first, when you think you save enough get scorching star and start making your red hive

[@Random_BSS]

@@nitrodide I would say on order to get like 75% of the mythics you need is like 10T honey. For an SSA, getting star saw would probs take like 15-20T tops of you get unlucky but getting good stats on it would probably be a lot more so I would save up like 30T for a very solid start. Also try to save as many strawberries as you can for the most amount of gifted.

[@riseofnationsdaily9957]

Lvl 18 hive, 700t honey saved up

[@gavbidooof]

Lvl 18+ and 500t

[@XuairiBSS]

no hate but almost all of this is incorrect info

[@Random_BSS]

@XuairiBSS no offense taken. Could you explain what is wrong and why? I'd love to hear some criticism and what I could correct.

[@Random_BSS]

I checked your red hive and I have to say im impressed with the beequips and honey made so congrats on that! But I would like to know what I can improve on because our hives look the same except for drop carp for vec cuz of honey mark smiley and no hasty.

[@Doombringer445]

Dude i was watching this and thinking this is all wrong😭

[@WilliamExplainThings]

How much honey should i have to switch from blue to red?

[@Random_BSS]

hard to say. Depends how lucky you are. I would say for double passive and full mythics like 50-70T would be playing it safe

[@WilliamExplainThings]

Yeah ok thank you

[@gavbidooof]

500t at a MINIMUM

[@ProminentOnYt]

@@gavbidooof400t is fine

[@Qint-666]

Im blue 270t should I switch to red I’m level 19

[@Random_BSS]

@@Qint-666 I would say that's probably enough to get a good SSA and all mythics so yea if you want to switch to red your probably good to go

[@Huzzchaser711]

I'm a level 17 blue hive when should I switch?

[@Random_BSS]

It depends how much honey you have. I would also recommend getting to a lvl 18 hive too just to make the red hive a little better. I would recommend at least 100T for duel passive (you might get unlucky) and around 50T for mythics. That should be a good amount of honey for a good switch.

[@Huzzchaser711]

@Random_BSS so I lowkey just used 2 Trillion and got lucky for a double passive and now it's a bit rough

[@demonff4644]

I am so close to get dark scythe,super smoothie rn 20,30 more but i dont have a neonberry to craft😢

[@Random_BSS]

Dang, the best way I found to farm neon berries was puffshrooms, so I would do as many as you can! GL!

[@demonff4644]

@@Random_BSS ok thank

[@saimahmad4907]

​@demonff4644 use the pesticide planter in stump then mountain top and then coco and keep repeating it in this order , it will give you lots of neon berries

[@tonyqyz]

hi i only made 600 bil with honeday and i have 50 bees and level 16-17 bees could you help me?

[@Random_BSS]

What do you need help with? Like you passives or?

[@PhiMinhKhoi]

What mutations can i get beside movespeed and bar for both spicy and precise?

[@Random_BSS]

I would recommend attack. I think attack % is better than the attack + but i'm not 100% sure. I think all the other mutations are equally as bad (besides energy, never use energy).

[@PhiMinhKhoi]

@@Random_BSS so is instant conversion and critical chance on spicy or precise is bad?

[@Random_BSS]

I wouldn't say it is necessarily bad, it's just that those are really only useful for attack because you don't make your honey from spicy or precise bees. If you want a better attack, the attack stat buffs the base attack so that one is most likely better. Instant conversion is useless because your bees don't really convert that much pollen for you, and if your backpack keeps filling up, that's a separate problem. Again, a mutation is better than no mutation so if you can't afford anything else at the moment, don't sweat it, it won't be life-changing honey (unless you are leader board type end game because having the right mutation will make the difference if you are on leader boards or not). I hope that answered your question!

[@PhiMinhKhoi]

@@Random_BSS well, tks alot man

[@Vortex7YT]

Convert and gather

[@TheOlko]

do you need photon or crimson??

[@marmokofficial]

u need both cuz they give insane instant conv

[@Random_BSS]

Yea they are really good to have in a red hive

[@woomyzooms3781]

Why is movespeed so good for mutations?

[@Random_BSS]

It allows the bees to move to flowers faster. Also for vector and precise it is really good because vectors triangulate gets bigger faster, and precise bees get up to their target practice faster, and attack faster. Also it is one of the only ways to boost bee movespeed.

[@-Quseynnn-]

Why you don't need rage bee?

[@Random_BSS]

Not very useful as spicy bees give all the rage tokens we need, precise gives use the tokens links we need, and the gifted ability of 10% ata is not very useful, especially when going for pollen. Also he is not needed for beequip slots, which I didn't explain in the video but plan on making a beequip video soon.

[@Someguy-c7m]

Could you make a red beequip guide

[@Random_BSS]

@@Someguy-c7m I am definitely planning on making one it just might be a bit I'm sorry. I have been very busy with school so not much time to make videos.

[@Someguy-c7m]

@@Random_BSS 👍

[@BschMc]

NITRO MACRO SETTING TEAM RED PEPPER PLS

[@Random_BSS]

I Will make a video with the best natro macro settings for every field soon! I will do it probably after I make a blue hive guide so stay tuned for that!

[@scaryjones9595]

how much honey is required to switch

[@Random_BSS]

@scaryjones9595 hard to say. Depends how lucky you are. I would say for double passive and full mythics like 50-70T would be playing it safe

[@gavbidooof]

500t minimum

[@scaryjones9595]

@@Random_BSS i see. Would 50-70t be for an un gifted hive?

[@Random_BSS]

@@scaryjones9595 yea. It would probably be 1Qd+ if you wanted full gifted. Gifted mythics are wayyyy more rare than normal mythics.

[@fragmanplgaming728]

man I was making 2t boosts with blue I switched to red today and only made 300b in my first boost

[@Random_BSS]

@@fragmanplgaming728 yea it takes practice and having gifted with good ssa and stuff is rly important for red. It will take some time and is definitely an adjustment from blue but keep going and the boosts will get better! If you have any questions feel free to ask.

[@fragmanplgaming728]

@@Random_BSS my hive is mostly ungifted and I didn’t really know what I was doing I was kind of just running around hitting all the precise marks

[@Random_BSS]

@@fragmanplgaming728 Yea, I would recommend listening to the boosting part of the video, and if you are still confused, you can ask me or find a different video that goes over it in more depth. Red needs to have gifted and good stuff in order to make good honey, blue can be good without gifted and good ssa, that's why it seems like red is worse right now.

[@fragmanplgaming728]

@@Random_BSS okay thanks

[@wompmichael]

is it okay to go red without beequips?

[@Random_BSS]

Yea totally. To be honest by beequips are not very good at all. Its not a huge deal until you get into later game. They become really important then.

[@ExactlySomething]

Can i go red now even without dark scythe and do all must be gifted i can’t macro too

[@Random_BSS]

You can go red without dark scythe (especially if you cant macro) and no your bees dont have to be gifted to make a good amount of honey. However, if you expecting to make like trillions you probably wont if you don't have the dark scythe or any gifted. I would focus on getting one of each bee gifted (for all the gifted hive bonuses) and then work on gifting your precise and spicy. Then for the dark scythe, kill as many bugs as you can, do your bosses, and try and find some people to help with puff shrooms. If you are in the bss discord there is a chat where you can do puff shroom parties. Good luck! (sorry about the yap).

[@ExactlySomething]

@@Random_BSS what if i had a hive with one gifted of each type the red mythic and vector

[@Random_BSS]

Thats fine to start, but in order for the red hive to make any good amount of honey, you will need at least 5-6 gifted vector, spicy, and precise along with the gifted rares, epics, and legendary.

[@ExactlySomething]

@@Random_BSS if i had one of each how much can i make

[@Random_BSS]

Its been ages since I started as red and with the new changes and updates im not too sure. I would try a boost and see how much you make. All I know is you will definitely make more the more gifted you have.

[@KaiserMapper]

Is 2 tadpoles good enough? And what happened to the rage bee?

[@Random_BSS]

No, you should have 4 tad poles. This should give you a good supply of baby love. The rage bee is not good because you don't need rage tokens (you get the from spicy) and don't need token links (get those from precise) and the +1 attack hive bonus isn't very good especially for pollen.

[@KaiserMapper]

@@Random_BSS Alright, do I replace my 4th carp with another tad, or are the 4 carps necessary for the comp to work? Or do I perhaps kill off one of my 12 precise

[@Random_BSS]

@@KaiserMapper I would just stick with 4 carps, 12 precise, 8 spicy, 8 vectors, and 4 tads. You should be able to fit those into your comp somewhere. What do you have in your hive that's not in the hive comp I showed in vid?

[@KaiserMapper]

@@Random_BSS most of the bees except for a fuzzy, I don’t have a fuzzy alt

[@Random_BSS]

@@KaiserMapper yea you could probs swap a vec out for a fuzzy.

[@HoofHearted12]

I am a level 15 partial red hive rn making about 500 bil a boost without dark scythe should I go red rn?

[@Random_BSS]

Do you want to go red? If so I would make sure all of your quest lines are done so you don't have to worry about dealing with blue pollen Spirit Bear quests as a red hive.

[@HoofHearted12]

yes all my quests are done

[@HoofHearted12]

I already have 12 spicy bees rn

[@Random_BSS]

then aren't you already red? Sounds to me like you already are making good progress on the hive so I guess my tip would be to just keeping going and getting more bees and gifted.

[@Pxlarizar]

This is kinda bad ngl?? Don’t go blue as you won’t make honey without macro is a crazy statement bro fix this guide

[@Random_BSS]

You mostly won't make honey. The main way of making honey blue is macro. That is the only reason to go blue because it has horrible attack and everything else and some people want to make idle honey. You can make honey without macro if you want to grind out bubble bloat for 30+ minutes and tide blessing. It is not worth going blue and not having a macro. I don't know why anyone would because it's just painful to make honey without it.

[@maotvtam-wj8mn]

vic is not need in red

[@Random_BSS]

@@maotvtam-wj8mn I know. That's why it's not in the recommended hive. I have it in mine because I grind robo and macro a lot so the attack is helpful for RBC challenge and the - monster respawn time for bug runs

[@TreasureWOMAN]

:)

[@Rip_Void387]

This guide is so trash like most of KZbin Guides. "Don't go blue if you don't macro." Blue doesn't need to macro they just benefit the most from macroing. It is highly recommended to go blue after SSA because its very cheap compared to red and white with their gummy saw and scorch saw. Wtf you mean you can go red without dark scythe? If you go red without dark scythe, your boosts will just be blue's honey in 1 hour of macroing/grinding with no effort. Red also needs to macro the same amount as blue if not more for their boosts and their alts. Red doesn't need fuzzy or vicious. By the time you should be switching to red, having a fuzzy alt is basically REQUIRED for red. 1 fuzzy isn't going to pollinate the field enough. Vicious is self explanatory because you already have a lot of attack. Also, attack is worthless in early red because you will just miss your hits and blue still has decent attack with a high balloon blessing. Lastly, before switching you need digital or be close to getting it. There is no hive composition without digital in red. Getting a fully gifted hive is also VERY important. You will not have enough precise marks, flame heat, and long marks if you don't have a gifted hive. No hate but you need to have more experience with red. To all the people that want to switch to red, I recommend getting a lvl 20 hive and at least 1qd saved up. This is from a lvl 20 blue hive btw.

[@Random_BSS]

@@Rip_Void387 So we need to pay attention to the discription. I literally corrected most of my mistakes in there. Also you don't need to be lvl 20 if you don't want, you don't NEED digital to go red and you definitely don't need 1qd. You can get all mythics and good SSA with way less than that. As long as you have a plan for gifted like lots of straw or tickets. You sure as hell don't NEED a fuzzy alt to go red. I've been red all my life and still don't have a fuzzy alt and was never blue and turned out fine you really don't need that much prep in order to make good honey. I will admit I did make plenty of mistakes in this guide and that was stupid but I corrected a lot of the dumb ones in the pinned comment. You talk as if everyone that wants to go red needs to go blue for a very long time and get end end game blue for red to be any good when in reality that's not true

[@Rip_Void387]

@@Random_BSS You really need all the stuff I stated if you want to make good honey. 1qd is the most you can switch with if you're unlucky. You really do need a fuzzy alt before going to red. You are missing out on 3x honey without one. And you do need digital you will be missing out on a lot of like 2-4x honey (depending on the amount of drives you have.) You don't need to go blue to be red, but you will progress 10x faster by going blue first then switching to red.

[@Random_BSS]

@@Rip_Void387 yes I completely agree but if sounded like you were saying those things are necessary to be red when they aren't. Of course they will be really good but it's not like you won't make any honey without them. I really don't see how you need 1qd unless you want to spend all of it on gifted which won't even guarantee a full gifted hive and in my opinion is much better if you use strawberries and tickets.

[@SideEncounter]

Hey man amazing video. Im currently following the path of a red hive cuz I cant really macro and you answered a lot of questions I had before this video thanks a lot you deserve this praise 🫶🤝

[@Random_BSS]

Thanks I really appreciate that! If you have any more questions feel free to ask!