Supervisor's Hahn and Solis joined Metro officials to announce the final approval for the West Santa Ana Branch light rail line.
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@Mario-by2xc2 жыл бұрын
“New rail line” 😀 “It’ll be completed before 2043” 😕 “it’s light rail” 😣 What.the.hell Metro
@cityplanner30632 жыл бұрын
She sounded so proud when she said before 2043. Seriously that is just sounds like a strategic plan.
@sweetmapleleafs Жыл бұрын
If you want it done sooner, you'll get a BRT instead of an LRT. Remember, Janice is part of the Hahn family of Democrats who (for 70yrs now) have successfully done everything to make public transit the very last place of resort to travel anywhere in the city.
@Jbk0860 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetmapleleafs Democrats preventing the expansion of public transit…. Are you cognizant?
@NobleWolf332 ай бұрын
Wow 2043? China would’ve done this in less than 2 years.
@roachtoasties2 жыл бұрын
A light rail line should not take anywhere near 21 years to complete. L.A. County supervisors should be embarrassed to even say that. Are they working in geologic time? Was this a joke and I believed it? Even five years for a 15 mile light rail line, that looks to be entirely at grade, is far too long.
@91djdj2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think with the technology now available, this is absolutely possible in around 3 years.
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
It's about the funding, not the construction. That is why it will take 20 years. There is not enough collected tax funds to built it sooner.
@Rickyrab2 жыл бұрын
The original idea was "by 2050" lol
@qjtvaddict2 жыл бұрын
The USA is a pathetic country.
@ES-hr6vg2 жыл бұрын
Apparently you think money grows on trees
@danielkelly22102 жыл бұрын
21 years? China will build another 50 metro lines by that time.
@ajs112012 жыл бұрын
And half of those rail lines in China will collapse and kill thousands of residents below. When you don't care about the environment or humanity, you can build much more quickly.
@luckerhdd39292 жыл бұрын
@@ajs11201 😂😂😂😂😂 You are so stupid. Yes it happened few times in China but it never killed thousands of residents AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN USA FEW TIMES AS WELL... Just buy yourself a brain.
@luckerhdd39292 жыл бұрын
@Anthony96922 Welp definitely better than in USA but still... french police... eeeh.
@danielkelly22102 жыл бұрын
@@luckerhdd3929 Nah, actually, I'm fairly smart.
@danielkelly22102 жыл бұрын
@Anthony96922 Point taken.
@alvinchou23402 жыл бұрын
Did she say 2043 for a 15-mile light rail project, or did I hear it wrong? Are they expecting many hiccups even though the project is approved in which it means most obstacles should have been considered and overcome? Or are they converting this into a subway line so it's going to take 21 years? Really, 21 years for a 15-mile light-rail project?
@sudcciv64432 жыл бұрын
Hell, its taken them 8 years to do a 1.9 mile "Regional Connector" so what do you expect? BOON-DOGGLE is the operating principle here!
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
She said BEFORE that. 2043 was the original timetable.
@garjac12 жыл бұрын
Lol Metro has never finished any project on time… So if she said before 2043 expect this to be done by the year 2100.
@sudcciv64432 жыл бұрын
@@garjac1 LOL! The same way the "Regional Connector" (started in 2014!) was "supposed to be done" in 2021! It is now due for completion in . . . . 2023? 24? After the 20208 L.A. Olympics?
@dcdude3452 жыл бұрын
America Moment
@turtalia45372 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, what the hell? 2043??? Was that a joke?
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
That was the original target date but she said sooner than that now. A lot of other projects are first in line.
@inglewoodea31492 жыл бұрын
@@themoviedealers when she said sooner did she mean like 13 years sooner? Because otherwise it's a really big problem
@Mario-by2xc2 жыл бұрын
And it’s light rail, for me that makes it even worse
@jamaal72 жыл бұрын
Can't this corridor be expedited? Before the 2028 Olympics would be a goal worth reaching for, God willing.
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
It would be but there is only so much funding to go around before 2028. There are several other transit projects already scheduled to open by 2028.
@jg-77802 жыл бұрын
If I understand correctly, the “before 2043” comment is referring to an old timeline that assumed only one funding source (measure M) for all of LA’s transit projects, which placed this project as completing in 2043. However, metro & the city are pursuing additional funding options, which should push that opening date to the early-mid 2030s. This is what I believe she meant by “before 2043.” Still annoyingly long, but not 22-years-long
@ianhomerpura89372 жыл бұрын
Make it faster. You have enough money to fasttrack the construction in time for the 2028 Olympics.
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
Enough money? What, do you think the money is sitting in a bank account somewhere? The funding comes from yearly sales taxes and that is the main reason it will be built in phases. If they had all the money up front, they could build it by 2028.
@keving1072 Жыл бұрын
I’m all for what ever gets people off the roads in our beloved city
@inglewoodea31492 жыл бұрын
2043????
@xcelron15802 жыл бұрын
This is the most anticipated line I'm looking forward too, the getaway cities badly need this to deal with over congestion of cars. I'll finally be able to go straight to DTLA without multiple transfers.
@inosurrender8327 Жыл бұрын
For real, the 5 from dtla to Downey/ Lakewood, or the 5 to the 710 to the 105 suffer one of the worst traffic every day besides Sunday between 1-8pm
@Bauer-ke6lp2 жыл бұрын
Why to Union Station tho, you can connect to all Metro lines at 7th street/Metro, not Union Station, going anywhere else than the Northern current gold line will require you to ride back from Union Station to 7th
@boiii3productions9452 жыл бұрын
Ikr? I’m not a Californian but I observed through multiple transit maps that lines tend to branch out from business districts and instead it should connect all areas _I mean instead of all connecting downtown their should be a crosstown line so people won’t have to drive_
@dartwill2 жыл бұрын
They are connecting the Arts District directly to Union Station. As with any hip LA neighborhood, the LA Arts District does have an impressive array of upscale coffee shops and high-end eateries. Once completed, The Ribbon of Lights 6th st Viaduct will be a big attraction along with already approved future developments.
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
Union Station is the main hub.
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
You'll be able to get the A train at Union.
@Bauer-ke6lp2 жыл бұрын
@@themoviedealers I'm aware of the regional connector, that's why I wrote current gold line. But unless you want to go North on it you will ride parallel to the new line back south and pass thru 7th street/Metro, same goes for all the subway lines
@flamingvans11352 жыл бұрын
Normally, it wouldn't take that long. But they're having to do construction through built-up areas, and they've got to factor in unexpected problems as they're laying the tracks, mainly, the wailing and whining of property owners along the right of way. They never should have torn up the Pacific Electric and LAMTA tracks in the early 60's, but what's done is done.
@Mario-by2xc Жыл бұрын
These just all sound like excuses to me, there are places in Europe (most notably Spain) that have built new subway lines through dense city cores in the past 20 years and they didn't take 21 years to construct them.
@flamingvans1135 Жыл бұрын
@@Mario-by2xc Were there European politicans having to deal with angry property owner constituents who are always ready to "throw the bums out"!? We're having an issue with that right now, with a homeowner who is upset because a tall sound barrier wall being built next to a tollway is blocking the sunlight from his yard. Dealing with this kind of thing on public works projects is not an excuse here -- it's a fact of life. Glad it's not happening in Europe.
@bobbyswanson34982 жыл бұрын
is anyone working on the project now still gonna be alive by the time this is done?
@alvaroprieto20922 жыл бұрын
We should vote for community leaders that can actually get things done, there has to be a way to get this done in maximum 5. There's a way
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
Get billionaires to put up the money now. The reason for the long timeframe is not due to construction timelines. It's due to funding availability based on taxes collected over a given amount of time. There are other projects ahead in line that will receive the tax dollars first.
@qjtvaddict2 жыл бұрын
You willing to go with monorail then? Or get foreign experts
@alvaroprieto20922 жыл бұрын
@@qjtvaddict Monorail? Heck no!
@Damoor2 жыл бұрын
Taxes pay for the transit. We don’t want to pay more taxes. Therefore, we don’t want this built any faster. Show me your budget and I’ll show you your values.
@intreoo2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Expo line is the exact same length (15 miles) and type (Light Rail), and is in fact mostly elevated above ground in a much more dense area than the Gateway region, and yet it only took 6 years to build all of that. How does it make sense for an elevated light rail line build above ground in one of the densest regions of LA to only take 6 years, and this line which is the same length and is being built on *flat clear land with nothing on it* to take 21??
@benchis3112 жыл бұрын
Line 3 in Guadalajara about the same size as this one took 7 years to build
@Risky2k9 Жыл бұрын
We''ll be all 80 years old or dead by the time this project is done. Thanks Metro !
@lac2275 Жыл бұрын
Before 2043? Wow, sometimes I can't believe America is supposed to be the world power when inefficient projects like this show up. In China they would have built this line in a few years.
@urfranz Жыл бұрын
Instead of lining the pockets of your friends, maybe invest in future proof mass transit like underground tunnels and build mass housing above
@european519 ай бұрын
Why don't you extend The Gold Line to Ontario Airport would be such a blessing for the people here in the San Gabriel Valley nd surrounding areas.
@DDELE7 Жыл бұрын
Has Los Angeles ever considered building a circle line to connect the surrounding LA area without having to change trains Downtown.
@blancavelasquez98592 жыл бұрын
twenty ducking years to complete one line
@KRMKTWN2 жыл бұрын
Before 2043... 😐
@SFKelvin2 жыл бұрын
Great. We're replacing a public service that existed in 1916. #progress.
@bobbyswanson34982 жыл бұрын
more like rebuilding given they tore down all the streetcars
@harutosunaa38812 жыл бұрын
It goes right over the old streetcar right aways too.
When she said 2043, I thought it was a heavy rail project 😢
@WafflezMCdoodle2 жыл бұрын
This had already existed with the Los Angeles Red Cars
@sudcciv64432 жыл бұрын
Which means the tracks are probably STILL THERE!
@Cal902082 жыл бұрын
For much of the route they're using the former PE ROW.
@sudcciv64432 жыл бұрын
@@Cal90208 And the part that is NOT being used will cost HOW MUCH to construct?
@Cal902082 жыл бұрын
@@sudcciv6443 They can’t use former ROW for the whole thing, as some of it is no longer available
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
No, capacity was a lot lower and it didn't have a separate ROW.
@FlixCreEightR2 жыл бұрын
LA is 30 years behind NY.
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
NY has been building its system for over 100 years. If LA can catch up to NY in 30 that would be amazing since we only started building our current Metro in the 90s.
@alq88792 жыл бұрын
under/over this finishes 5 years behind schedule
@marcospintor13332 жыл бұрын
I’ll be 44 years old. I’ll own a house and have a family. Definitely not in los angeles of course 😂
@european51 Жыл бұрын
Why not invest in a cirle line that goes around LA, I suggest the Gold Line going to Ontario International Airport
@inosurrender8327 Жыл бұрын
Should be done before 2030 at the very latest
@lac2275 Жыл бұрын
@0:55 even she looked back, baffled as if saying 2043 is the most ridiculous thing she's ever heard. lol
@dfair2 жыл бұрын
Wait, Union Station to Slauson will already exist with the current A Line and the Regional Connector.... THAT'S PHASE 1 ???? lol Joke
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
Forced transfer at Slauson. It's better than nothing, Bub.
@dfair2 жыл бұрын
@@themoviedealers I’m saying. Shouldn’t Slauson moving eastbound be Phase One? There’s no construction needed from Union Station to Slauson station (once Regional Connector is complete) if you closely read my comment … Bub.
@theexmann2 жыл бұрын
That's not phase one. Phase one is from Slauson to Artesia.
@skatingdonefurther3063 Жыл бұрын
At least LA County doin somethin about their transit. No matter how long it takes. Riverside County doesn’t truly improve anything.
@lemonade41812 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I don’t live in L.A. I’ll be in a retirement home by the time this is finished.
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
We already have the third largest urban rail network in North America.
@roachtoasties2 жыл бұрын
At least you'll still be alive. I'll probably be six feet under. :/
@alexm5209 Жыл бұрын
Why does it take that long to build?
@ricardochavez16255 ай бұрын
It's probably gonna take 10 years to build
@intreoo2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the current time scales for these projects. The Metro E line from DTLA to Santa Monica (15.2 mi) took *6 years* to build (2006 - 2012). The West Santa Ana Branch Corridor from Union Station to Pioneer (19.3 mi) will take *20 years* to build (2023 - 2043). If WSAB was built at the same rate as the E Line, it would only take 7.6 years to complete. Not to mention that both the E line and WSAB are the same type of light rail. In fact, the E Line should've taken longer because most of it had to be built elevated in a dense environment. WSAB will literally be built majorly on long stretches of flat clear land that have been empty for decades, and yet it will take 20 years; the earliest opening at that. What happened?? Is there a shortage of workers, did wages rise, is climate change slowing progress; why is it taking so long? I don't want to sound like I'm nagging, but I really don't believe it should take 20 years to build this.
@justsamoo34802 жыл бұрын
It’s because that’s not how long the construction will last, that’s when the whole line opens. The construction is set to begin in late 2020s for phase one to Slauson and then phase two from Slauson to DTLA is expected to start construction in 2030s. The issue is funding. Metro project are (mostly) funded through sales taxes, which need time to be collected. Projects can be accelerated if other funding streams open up from state and federal governments and maybe even private investors. The timeline we see now is only a prediction based on secured money (so for now only sales tax), but the dates will change with cash injections which are expected to come especially with the new infrastructure bill. Another thing holding this project back is also the fact that we have currently many other projects which are prioritised (like A LOT). You might be familiar with the Sepulveda line or the D line extension. If you want to learn more about the future projects in LA I suggest @nandert he explains things much more professionally than I do. Specifically check out his 2022 metro update
@jia7302 Жыл бұрын
When she said before 2043😂😂😂😂😂
@anthonysnyder1152 Жыл бұрын
Lol at the timeline. Ridiculous.
@secretagentnewt2 жыл бұрын
How am I supposed to be happy about paying taxes on something I won’t be able to use until 2043. Our government and society is terrible and depressing honestly. The people working on this project have no urgency and are out of touch with our citizens and their demands. Traffic has been a huge concern in LA for a very long time and by the time this is built, people will be flying car-sized helicopters by then.
@emvvehicles_82 жыл бұрын
I don’t think flying cars will come even close, I think it’ll be more crashing autonomous cars 🤣
@secretagentnewt2 жыл бұрын
@@emvvehicles_8 look at the jetson one vehicle that is sold out. There’s a reason why the rich travel by helicopter. Our phones are building the augmented reality and networks for these “autonomous” vehicles to work properly. We’ve been traveling on roads for over 200 years. Humans and our society havsnt evolved since the internet has been made available to us.
@emvvehicles_82 жыл бұрын
@@secretagentnewt don’t forget we have politicians that’ll put many roadblocks to progress upon us just because of people dying from preventable accidents
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
30 years ago we had nothing as far as rail based mass transit, now we have the third largest system in North America. Metro has done a good job.
@secretagentnewt2 жыл бұрын
@@themoviedealers third largest in terms of what?
@coolnewpants2 жыл бұрын
Why is she so hyped about a project that won't be done until 2043? That's 21 years! Jesus
@xavpg Жыл бұрын
2043 are you kidding me?
@CancelYoutube0267 ай бұрын
Welcome to Caucasians America.
@JOHNSMITH-dc6lr2 жыл бұрын
ALL FREEWAYS NEED CENTER RAIL, NOT JUST 105/10, green line south needs to contenue through Torrance into long Beach, freeway access is impossible now
@pinhead352 жыл бұрын
No no no, it’s been proven that rail along the center of a freeway isn’t really beneficial to anyone and was just a fad to get transit funding from large freeway projects and grants
@JOHNSMITH-dc6lr2 жыл бұрын
@@pinhead35 yea it is and metro agrees, I already subbited my vote to the committee
@colinm3662 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The 405 is adding another lane which just means more congestion. It should've been removed and a metro line added to the center.
@JOHNSMITH-dc6lr2 жыл бұрын
@@colinm366 congestion is enevatable bc this popular explosion will only get worse
@eriklakeland38572 жыл бұрын
Rapid transit in the middle of freeways misses out on a huge amount of residents and businesses that can’t be built next to the station.
@taizzle706 ай бұрын
2043.... LOL! Make that 3043 sounds more realistic.
@teriwood4946 Жыл бұрын
Hell ya baby
@ricardochavez16255 ай бұрын
They should start building in 2025 or 2026
@cleanbeanlalo3641 Жыл бұрын
I Will Die With All This Violence In LA County Before This Is Completed Hahahah What A Joke
@egret43932 жыл бұрын
Ok
@rexlee26592 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO 2043
@portcybertryx222 Жыл бұрын
2043 is this a joke?
@harutosunaa3881 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Asia…
@jonathanrelatado53492 ай бұрын
Divert funding from highways into transit projects.
@lucaspadilla4815 Жыл бұрын
more heavy rail rapid transit
@JamesDavis-mb1jw2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 While they expand, usage declines.
@davidlang1125 Жыл бұрын
2043?!?!?!?! A lot could happen between now and then. This is the sad state of affairs in transit planning in the US. Lack of commitment, lack of political support, lack of political cojones and lousy planning. So the proposed route will go through industrial no-man’s land. Great! Instead integrating the line with forward thinking city planning this line is just another half baked proposal that will never fulfill expectations. It’s another missed opportunity to integrate housing, retail and services around the stations with good walking qualities that will get people to live without cars. This is just a great disappointment to transit and urban planners who want to see more constructive solutions for our cities. The planners here did the easy way of doing transit. They ignored everything else. Another mediocre project.
@stickynorth2 жыл бұрын
Build it ALREADY, FFS!
@stickynorth2 жыл бұрын
Get it done by 2028! We all you know can!
@djroach32372 жыл бұрын
What a shame! L.A. public transportation is a huge embarrassment to other major cities all over the world! R.T.D. should have never sold out to MTA!!!
@the_menace_mike8 ай бұрын
What a joke. Metro should be ashamed of itself
@moishglukovsky Жыл бұрын
“Supervisor’s.” FFS.
@migjing23OCMCHS Жыл бұрын
Lol. 2043!? Rats I will be long dead before I can ride it. I would love to have riden it once. Train nerd.
@timothya.g.9912 жыл бұрын
Still not as good as Singapore or Hongkong
@simonbone2 жыл бұрын
Very true, but a big improvement on LA in 1989.
@kevinbarnes2182 жыл бұрын
@@simonbone didn't LA use to have no rail transit at one point?
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
Communism has trains. Free people drive.
@simonbone2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbarnes218 That's right, from the final closure of the once-extensive Pacific Electric system in 1961 to the opening of the Blue Line in 1990, there was no passenger rail in LA.
@simonbone2 жыл бұрын
@@NEONLOVEMACHINE1 Nothing wrong with trains, and the best ones are a product of capitalist research and development. Much better than traffic jams and cities turned into parking lots.
@matthewandrew Жыл бұрын
2043
@oeao28412 жыл бұрын
Idk how LA has room for anything considering how crowded jt is
@pinhead352 жыл бұрын
The city is all 90% medium density developments, abandoned railroad rights of way, and endless suburbia
@Mario-by2xc2 жыл бұрын
If it was crowded with people on the streets that’d actually be a sign of a healthy city. But it’s crowded with cars, traffic, and highway
@alvaroprieto20922 жыл бұрын
How can you say this crap when Tokyo exists
@GloryBeToGodForever Жыл бұрын
Before 2043? LOL! That year may never come. *Jesus Christ* is coming.
@Bob_Sacamano2 жыл бұрын
2043!? Trash timeline.
@sudcciv64432 жыл бұрын
At least wait till the BOON-DOGGLES you already have underway (Metro Regional Connector, Purple Line Extension!) are done before you go pouring money down ANOTHER "metro-rail" boondoggle!
@themoviedealers2 жыл бұрын
I can see you don't understand how government spending works.
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
Who are the private beneficiaries of this rail.
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
Boycott the whole thing
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
No to the rail no the all woman board. Mooo
@eannamcnamara93382 жыл бұрын
Why though
@seamusmckeon91092 жыл бұрын
Why also unnecessary sexism
@ianhomerpura89372 жыл бұрын
Good luck hosting the Oiympics with that mindset.
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
@@eannamcnamara9338 they will ship illegals in at light speed crack too.
@NEONLOVEMACHINE12 жыл бұрын
@@seamusmckeon9109 an al woman Board just to have all woman is sexist. And the best part is they can’t blame a man for the treasonous acts they committed
@HAL-bo5lr Жыл бұрын
She said 2043. Which means the project should realistically & optimistically be completed by 2050. Wonderful. pEaK uRbAN deVelOpMent here people.
@zada94095 ай бұрын
Waymo's self-driving services will make millions of dollars from us Californians by 2043. Congratulations, LA Metro! Your flawed "West Santa Ana Branch trashcan project" will forever be a forgotten name in California, except for being recorded in the history of LA's corrupt bureaucracy in transportation.