NEW Must Know Changes in Ableton Live 12!

[@timrault]

Great update ! A few simple features that would be so useful in Ableton are : - Freezing a group - Hide & make inactive - Audiosuite (printing an effect into an audio clip)

[@DylanGalletly]

Goddam - freezing a group, great idea.

[@MediaMusik777]

I think they just added this but work around send it to a stereo audio channel with resample

[@KoljaBeckmann_music]

- Clip + Smart Containers so you can chop and clue samples non destructively - Hybrid tracks - Freeze in Spot - Isolated Plugins so you daw cant crash and plugion restated - CLIP FX where you can have an FX just on a clip like an EQ in particular

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

​@@KoljaBeckmann_music I think you like Bitwig. Don't you? Hahah

[@FortyNightsMusic]

Wait, freezing doesn't print the effects into the clip?

[@mtennantmusic]

Love that you can see session and arrangement view together, that's awesome.

[@johnlase4376]

Although they are late with that lol but I'm finally happy they add that

[@allancerf9038]

Dude, you've been able to do it for two weeks before the first version of BW was released. Used to be a key command; now all you do is select "second window" from View menu. Voila, your done. I thought it would rock my world but when it was implement 10 years ago I found that I seldom if ever, use it. V. 12 is slightly more eloquent but it's the same exact feature, just made full size.

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

​@@allancerf9038bw is? Bitwig?

[@seaocean4868]

as someone who isnt well versed in music theory. suck at chords and learning key this just made it so much better for me!

[@k4qubi]

As a 100% Ableton user for more almost a decade now, I'm very excited for this update, it does add lots or great features wether it's an improvement to an existing utility, interface or a new addition to the DAW, yet I feel that it is still missing alot of important factors that needs a fix or an improvement that would really elevate the experience by a large amount like video compatibility and rendering issues, when flattening a mono track it automatically makes and shows it stereo, not adding more features regarding export filtering like reaper or pro tools, not having stem export features for easier colabs and not having an easier way for making cutdowns regarding tools or shortcuts. That said i still love using ableton but I genuinely think that Ableton should focus more right now on the UI and UX part instead of adding more new instruments and effects or at least work out both.

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

RE video, there are 4 or 5 great M4L based suites for working with video/visuals which I love. Ebosuite, t3x2r, videosync, zwobot, etc…Do you use any of these? Curious what else you would be looking for? Maybe I can improve my game.

[@codmiz2220]

You can export stems pretty easily. Just export master and select all individual channelS.

[@k4qubi]

@@codmiz2220 yeah i know but when i said stem exporting i meant having more flexibility in exporting stems, especially like having the mono tracks mono and stereo tracks stereo and it would be nice to have a more neat labeling system because when you export stems the tracks are bounced with a lot of label name, and it becomes a chore when for example mixing the stems in protools.

[@odumabekah4000]

@@k4qubi The label naming thing is a chore yes. I’ve seen a couple of producers just use an “_” in the exporting. Your folder game would need to be on point, but doing that would get you clean names like _BASS, _LV, _EG, etc.

[@k4qubi]

@@ItsWesSmithYo haven't tried any of those but i will, thanks 🙏

[@ChorleyHadak]

thank you for this video! is amazing 😁

[@dragonflythemusician]

yes, waveshape zoom was so waited for! and freezing to a certain point in device chain would be great for me.

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

Some awesome features coming soon. Looking forward to the update!

[@framebadger]

I really like the look of thesimilar sounds functionality and roar. But what I'd really like is a built in pitch correction tool like in Logic. Maybe I just have a terrible workflow for it but it would be great to have a mode where you can choose an audio clip, switch into pitch correction mode, it detects pitches and lets you move them around like midi. I got the 11 update straight away, mostly for take lanes, which are great for a non EDM person like me, so I was hoping the next recording focused tool like this was coming. But maybe these new interface changes are a step towards that *copium*

[@ightoaks]

Woah, Ableton delivered!!!!!! Christmas came early!

[@Ayayi_jr]

Nice. Search and browsing history is what I understood. I was lost with the rest. I’m at the early stages of music production and I have difficulty understanding how the DAW works because sometimes when I arm a track with drum kits, they don’t play but other instruments play when I arm them

[@BeatAcademy]

Check the octave you are triggering of the midi controller you are using

[@Ayayi_jr]

Thank you @@BeatAcademy

[@thealterrmusic]

Really dope insights appreciate it 🙏

[@soundmindindigo]

Oh nice I like the mixer view within session view. One of the features I like about Logic now in Ableton :)

[@shahinmoshtagh6955]

I'm using Ableton 10 and it has some of the features you mentioned! Like minimizing devices or changing the size of the volume meters!

[@itspolun]

Yo this is super helpful thanks for sharing! on a side note though - just curious what are you using to record your tutorial??

[@JonValtandtheEvilRobots]

Helpful video. Thanks!

[@mansurdorado]

live looks cool now, they move for the better

[@RobyFayermusic]

What’s the tracks name on 1:45? 😮

[@senarodrigo]

Cool tip about waveform magnification: Right click on it and you can set the units to dB!

[@BeatAcademy]

Dope thansk for the insight!

[@MattySagz]

This looks perfect. They added all the features i wanted them to

[@DogNamedSam]

2:18 SOLD, GENTLEMAN IN THE WHITE JACKET. I'M THAT GUY. Great video man, thanks!

[@tihkal]

incredible upgrade. and fantastic overview ty

[@BeatsbyVanity]

The MIDI additions are quite impressive, Ableton definitely listened to the cry’s for upgrading the MIDI editor.

[@musiclover-r9m]

how do your sends in mixer view look like the ones in arrangement view? The knobs take up way too much room. Could you explain how to do that?

[@triniticoclough6387]

Does it affect the functionality or the push 2 ?

[@verdean11]

I started making music with Ableton (version 7). Never used it for looping or live performances, only songwriting and music production - always thought the Session View was amazing to build song structures and write to each section. But the evolution for the rest of the DAW to catch up with other basic needs has been so slow over the years that I can't help but feel let down. I know, it says, and always has said Ableton LIVE. But did it really have to take 10 years to add waveform zoom? A key selector for the project? And why are we still missing a MIDI input/Chord analyser to the top of the window? It's so useful... But then they go ahead and literally write in a whole VST (XO, an expensive on at that...) into the Drum Rack ( 4:40 )... It's frustrating. We appreciate it, but we also would appreciate these other tiny details that are so helpful to producers... Anyways, another great video!

[@BeatAcademy]

OH dang a chord analyzer on the top like logic would have been dope ! all these comments are making me realize a lot.

[@ambermurray4481]

epic update. love the new midi editing!

[@resonatingergonomicsdnb2426]

Number one thing I am expecting is a Freeze and Flatten one button shortcut. I hate that it is a two process step. I just want it to flatten or render in place right away. Comes in handy with large projects. Also freezing groups woul dbe great.

[@emixam36]

Tu need to add group freeze too I can’t believe they didn’t add it…

[@Mixedbymrwood]

Such a good update. Wavform sizing, midi note split bounce in place Rearrange sends 😍

[@BeatAcademy]

yea the rearrange Sends was dope too cant believe I forgot to Mention it! Good call

[@rizzbod]

Thanks much!

[@royalemuzikproductionz]

I was looking for a native dynamic eq and accessing plugins in the mixer view like any other DAW

[@BeatAcademy]

That would have been dope.

[@HonorV2ultimate1tb]

it has a bug..... with suspend pedal pressed continuosly.......the suspend on my left hand keys stop abrubtly when the right hand plays rapidly a few keys.... this happens when i have 2 or more midi tracks selected..... am usin Arturia keylab 88 mk 2...... Analoglab V and Piano V3 does not have this problem.

[@sergiovargott]

NO EFFIN WAAAYY!! This is literally all the function I always dreamed of but never in my wildest dreams I thought a DAW would ever have. I'm finally ending my battle between going back and forth to logic vs ableton.. Bye Logic, Welcome Back Ableton.. This sofware is now years ahead and logic pro couldn't even give us a f*king plugin search bar with their new update, literally the only thing logic pro users asked for... I've always said it, working with Audio is such a pain in the a*s with Logic whereas Ableton is a breeze, but with this new update damn. It's a whole new level of ease. Pretty sure Live is getting old users back to their DAW. I know they won me over again. I just wish Ableton native instruments and vst drums where as good as logic, that would be the Dream DAW. What I hate about logic is that eveything is hiden whereas in logic everything is literally right in front of your eyes and yet it still looks clean.

[@Phadddy]

Worth $50-90...not over $200, why is Ableton so expensive??? If they had added an fx modulator and pitch correction like Cubase has, the price would be justified.

[@hostrow]

There is nothing quite like Ableton. It’s more of an entire ecosystem than a DAW. Once you start to use it you will understand why it’s expensive.

[@007Hazmatt]

As a software engineer who does music prod in his free time, I can tell you that the amount of work that goes into creating software as complex and polished as Ableton takes an extreme amount of time from a very large group of engineers. All those people need to get paid for their work, so that trickles down into the price for Ableton Live.

[@jimthesalad]

there is a pitch corrector in the beta and will be added in the next patch of 12. so you're paying for that. and fx modulation has been possible in Ableton for ages using max

[@thomas_xsg]

Once you start using Ableton you’ll know it’s worth every penny.

[@LukeSolo-One]

Coming from reason... I felt like I went from playing on sand in sandles kicking a rock to playing on a pitch in boots with a leather ball

[@peacefulpigeon7254]

Hi can you toggle the browser on and off and can you explain how to engage and not engage the scale mode? Thanks cheers

[@İclalŞahin-s7h]

Fire work

[@anyoneanyone28]

Can you get rid of the clip launcher in the mixer view?

[@BeatAcademy]

Great question. I know you can re arrange the return tracks now. Cant believe I forgot ot mention that Let me check and et back with you

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

Not completely. But you can delete them until there's enough space. There's always 1 left but it isn't that bad. At least in live 9/10/11, you could show device slots modifying the Options.txt. I don't think it's possible anymore :(

[@auralplex]

Does the knob that controls the click volume also still control the sample preview volume?

[@Andrea.Zechmeister]

Your Video is really one of the best Ableton 12 test love it big thanks for hang out dear !

[@sonoagu]

Nice video! You gained a follower ❤

[@ELEKTROGOWK]

The browser can't filter by effect type. That's sad.

[@FathysalamaOfficial]

Add a midi panic button, also improve the midi chase, thanks

[@mttlsa686]

The similar sound feature is simple but really useful because you can easily make a brand new kit of coherent sounds without the need to previously selecting them and losing a lot of time!

[@BeatAcademy]

Yea thats how I see it as well.

[@jaysoniq]

Interesting... I would think it would be called an "Upgrade" (to a new version) rather than an "Update" (for a version that's already installed)... But maybe that's just me 😊 Anyway, love the video, thanks for your time & effort to share this info 👍 I've pre-ordered Live 12 and am excitedly awaiting it's release 😃 and learning about it beforehand 👌

[@thegeenius]

thank you for yet another ultra thorough breakdown,,just got the beta 4 days ago,, and i'm lovin' it! ,, browser stuff- midi stuff all game changers for workflow-,,

[@arielheartheat727]

Maybe a better limiter but honestly all these midi editing tools are insannnnne, def will help creativity

[@bboymac84]

That key change and search history is huge!!

[@BeatAcademy]

the search histroy was a big one for me personally too

[@hazencruz]

when can we have more top left favorites?

[@JoseRodriguez-nb3sf]

Have they finally added a shortcut key command to have the plugins shuffle through from one another? Like how Logic does?

[@Jubnar]

Anyone know why Ableton live 12 doesn't show the VST folders anymore? Its all VSTS now and no folders...so now I don't know what is what cause everything was organize by folder names!

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

Bitwig got me happy af

[@royalemuzikproductionz]

I’ve been rocking Ableton from 6.0 and it’s my bread and butter 🧈 . Some things I like in Cubase and even logic would be be so much of an improvement in my workflow but they seem to be more into other stuff.😢

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

Live has to really step up it's game in terms of aux tracks, audio editing, and routing.

[@gvtorwubz1879]

Thank you Sandman!

[@BeatAcademy]

Just add water!

[@Joshua1MG]

Are you going to make dua lipa Houdini?

[@BeatAcademy]

yup its coming right up!

[@zakaroonetwork777]

Could you please make a Tutorial about Audio Editing in the arrange view. And working with the mixer and Arrange only. Guitar and Vocal guy here. I’ve been burnt out on all DAWs.

[@barrysvideofellowship8404]

Left field question...I recently downloaded UAD VST3 plugins. The upgraded plug-ins don't give you a (m) mono option for their plug-ins. Does ableton 12 recognize when you have a mono signal when using a stereo plug-in? Is this something i need to worry about? Does ableton 11 recognize as well? Thats the version im using. Hopefully my question makes sense. Your video are a big help! Thanks

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

1:14 since this is a beta version: can't they move the part right below more to the left? It's is always annoyingly distant to me.

[@resonatingergonomicsdnb2426]

Working on some drum and bass, awesome....

[@1headzan]

Thank you for your great help

[@jonathandaniel9031]

Amazing

[@djperu]

I still wish they would have a strum feature similar to FL. A keyboard shortcut that opens a small window with a few parameters for the midi.

[@BeatAcademy]

The Strum feature is actually included in the midi updates. If you go back in the dropdown menu you can spot it its works great

[@djperu]

Thank you for responding. Yeah I saw that in another video. Now I'm sold. hahaha @@BeatAcademy

[@OldDirtyMors]

Seing this makes me realize how far behind Abelton to a DAW like Cubase is. Of course, you can make good music with it, but its crazy to see that.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

The similarity search is similar to Waves Cosmos, XLN XO and Sononym.

[@Giovanni_Pesci]

Exactly what I was thinking. Super cool feature

[@alainthiry3965]

we'll see next year

[@alexbruce7708]

I bought Live11 suite only 12 months ago so it chafes a bit to now need to find serious money for mostly EDM focused improvements. I was also hoping that the interface would get cleaned up as it's now extremely cluttered. For instance, it would be great to see the effects applied to each track in a stack next to the track. I think Logic Pro is very clearly laid out by comparison (although Live is my preference). Also render to MP3: how about some other options such as VBR. And when importing, can we use m4a files yet? Glad the browser is starting to improve but it's got a long way to go. Great video though (as always!)!

[@allancerf9038]

They may well give you a free upgrade. For all the problems I've had with Ableton since version 10, they' very honorable about helping paying customers caught between versions. See what they say.

[@guycohen14]

GUYS PLEASE HELP!! HOW CAN I SEE THE AUTOMATION LANES ON THE RETURN TRACKS THEMSELVES! TO AUTOMATE THINGS LIKE VOLUME OF THE ACTUAL RETURN TRACK ITSELF!! PLEASE HELPPPPPPPPP

[@BeatAcademy]

Right click on the volume fader and choose "show automation" and the lane will appear in the arrangment view

[@guycohen14]

@@BeatAcademy it doesn't appear in 12!! That's the whole problem!!

[@agentm00se]

does anyone know how to automate parameters for plugins on a return track in ableton 12 please? Its driving me nuts trying to figure it out!!!

[@BeatAcademy]

check out the walkthrough video on this channel

[@agentm00se]

@@BeatAcademy is that for returns though too? when i click on show automation nothing happens :/

[@iqnill]

Why are the volume indicators on the left suddenly, what possessed them to spend time coding that?!?! Looks like someone from Ableton got a demo of Bitwig and liked it :)

[@nanob0zo]

man, wish i found this channel sooner.

[@zenluiz]

I am happy to finally be able to throw away all the third party library organizers, like ADSR Sample Manager and Loopcloud, and use something right inside the DAW.

[@NachoLopezba]

everything is great

[@ivodonckers8936]

like to see the endmixing (v MIXER ) and plugins

[@theovannieuwenhuizen5756]

Great explanation of the latest version. But somehow I get the feeling most UI stuff should have been in version 10.😂

[@billionbeat27]

On attend l intégration de variations audio pour corriger les note de la voix comme melodine

[@DJamal1803]

I want able tone to add clipper like VENN AUDIO or smth use this effect in every track

[@ElectricEddieDaus]

Hey just curious are you endorsed by Ableton or have you been given LIVE 12 for Free? Coooool...Thx...

[@BeatAcademy]

No endorsement I was part of an early Beta team to try it out.

[@NTROPiCU]

Nice!

[@alainjulot3490]

Lt's be honest! What's wrong with Ableton developers to NOT give users the ability to change the fader knobs? We are in 2024 and arrows as fader knobs?

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

For real. Traditional mixing feels way better in basically any other saw (except Bitwig, it is even worse) because of this.

[@Beerbatter1962]

Nice! This seems like a natural progression for the best live looping platform, to morph into a full fledged DAW. It's looking more and more like the top DAWs out there, and I personally think that is a good thing. For me, it let's me switch between platforms and still maintain basically the same feel and work flow.

[@nachoci6876]

They need to improve performance to be a top DAW. I used Live for many years I know what Im talking about,. Bitwig is far better in CPU usage, these new features are dope though.

[@domancayoutube]

@@nachoci6876 at least on new macs, with performance in live you can get really great performance as long as you don't use groups and don't have anything on the master. I don't understand exactly why other than it's down to how cpu cores are allocated. I think logic does a better job of it

[@mttlsa686]

​@@domancayoutube so it's better to use Bus instead of Groups? Is it less cpu intensive? Btw it would be useful if there was at least the possibility of displaying a set of tracks that go on the same bus as a "group" just to make the workflow easier.

[@domancayoutube]

​@@mttlsa686 there's no difference between buses and groups regarding cpu. my understanding is that a signal path can only be calculated on one cpu core at a time. grouping tracks puts them on the same signal path since you're processing them together. I'm not a computer scientist, just a producer, but this lines up with my experience - when I have nothing on my master I can have virtually unlimited tracks and devices in my sessions, but if I then add something to the master on a big session my computer will struggle. if someone has a better explanation I would be interested in hearing it!!

[@mttlsa686]

@@domancayoutube thanks mate. Honestly i was asking more for a confirmation because i'm 100% sure that i've read that it's actually different to use busses and groups in terms of core/cpu use in the ableton live official forum. So i wanted to know from someone with direct experience. I should try to do it by myself and see if it's better with bus...

[@brandondemixxmachine8137]

Can ableton add stems seperation

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

It looks rather messy to me. Most new functions look rather cut & paste than redesigned. I think having to pay 30% over your last purchase for the improvements is a lot. Moreover, I think there's an issue: do we make DAWs for people that know what they are doing (like knowing their scales) or do we make a DAW for people that don't, facilitating them with 1) some knobs that randomly generate sounds (maybe offering buttons like 'uplifting', 'vintage', 'synthwave')) and you just push 'hold' when you like it, and 2) the option to upload something and make it make something similar, again generating some things until I push 'hold'.

[@BeatAcademy]

This is a great take on this update thanks for sharing. Yea honestly as a whole not sure if the upgrades feel like a 12 worthy release it feels more like an 11.5 these were just some of the updates that were helpful to my current workflow

[@allancerf9038]

You've hit on 'the' key change in Ableton's thinking imo. Years ago they made Live almost exclusively for people who know what they are doing. Starting with version 10, they realized (my guess) that their new users were far more profitable than professionals so they catered to that group. The new users are (ouch) folks that need knobs, etc. Hobbyists.

[@okashasunami32]

Off to Bitwig

[@CarlitoProductions]

Definitely capping off my upgrades from 12, since $200 each upgrade for small changes is a bit much

[@mcgritty8842]

@@allancerf9038that’s how I feel aboht the ai tools and all these “melody” generators. It’s literally removing the process from the art… but I guess that’s what sells nowadays

[@capotan305]

When is it coming out? Is it free for 11 users?

[@StollerEaven]

Nope 160 $ if you order now

[@DR.KRYOVAK]

One thing I noticed that is not been talked about is that if you upgrade to Ableton Live 12, you will no longer have Abletons Stock Sampler unless you buy the Ableton 12 Suite. So if you use Ableton Live Sampler alot and you are thinking of upgrading to Ableton 12 just be aware of this.

[@justin-ju4eo]

pretty sure you only have the sampler in live 11 studio as well

[@DR.KRYOVAK]

@justin-ju4eo Yes you are right Sampler must of always been part of the Ableton Live Suite, because I only noticed this when I downgraded from Ableton Live 9 Suite to Ableton Live 11 Standard.

[@StollerEaven]

I miss ARA and freezing groups at most

[@0ctivate]

Need to be able to organize vsts. Cant believe the mess of vsts with no customizability

[@BFHPET]

1:22 there should be numbers beside the meter

[@BeatAcademy]

When you expand it, they show up

[@BFHPET]

@@BeatAcademy okay do you honna make a video about unison bass dragon its an ai plugin for basslines.

[@sr_bob]

Coming from live 8 this looks like everything I wanted in a daw

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Here here 🎉

[@gtamediaproductions1]

I paid for live 12 and it says it's not released until early next year. How are people having it right now and using it?

[@michaelscalisi4316]

I think anyone can sign up to be a beta user.

[@tinagel0]

Many music influencers have received a free version in advance to promote Ableton.

[@Illiyinmusic]

I know it's mostly for electronic music, but I'd be sold if it were audio friendly for instruments at all. The no overdub or having lanes in a track. Been torn between this and studio one cause i do use a handful of vst instruments

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

Actually there are MIDI and audio take lanes. Just hit ctrl+alt+u to show and shift+alt+u to add them.

[@mcgritty8842]

Overdubs and trackins lanes are 100% a current thing and there are many instrumentalists that use Ableton Live… why you pretend otherwise?

[@Simbosan]

If only those views were undockable. Multi monitor setup would be awesome (unless you can already!). I've never seen it demo'd though

[@itinerantghost]

Bounce in place, will that ever make it into Live?

[@BeatAcademy]

Are you referring to Freezing audio?

[@TA_Solberg]

​@@BeatAcademy I think he's referring to the option in Logic (and some other DAW's) to render a certain clip/region to a new audio track (basically with one hotkey, and then confirming with enter). A feature I absolutely love in Logic, as I'm not the biggest fan of working with midi. Freeze, pre-renders the entire track, and is mostly geared towards saving CPU (but you are still using RAM though). It's good for what it's meant for, but I would love to see a similar feature as the one in Logic, implemented in Ableton. There are certain workarounds though, and that flexibility is one of the cooler aspects of Ableton! To be fair, I heard that "Freeze & Flatten" has become it's own feature in Live 12, you can do it it one go now apparently! Really good video btw, haven't seen anybody else mention the waveform rescaling, that was pretty cool! 😯

[@contraspower6302]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@limon.9575]

Do I have to pay if I already have 11 live?

[@unc1589]

Yeah buddy! $183

[@emixam36]

I don’t understand why they have not yet added a group freeze feature. It’s a shame they haven’t added it yet it’s literally the number 1 requested thing

[@triniticoclough6387]

When shall we get actual FADER CAPS and not small triangles?

[@ChromeTeckbusiness]

noting for vocal recording

[@davidcassetta2705]

I'd like an Undo History folder.

[@kablaziken]

FL studio already has that BTW + an infinite undo

[@pixelyourmoment5255]

the funny thing about all of this, the average user can't even try this out --- so maybe in january this video will be relevant! but ILL Factor, love your content! :)

[@blackout_yf]

Can you do a tutorial about “I wanna go” by Britney Spears?

[@EssZee323]

Some very decent new features, but is this really Live 12? Seems more like 11.xx update to me. I won’t be upgrading from 11 for this unless some future updates really impress.

[@JJ1NE]

It would be cool if they also showed the session clips inside arrangement view so you can see them being recorded in real time. They were ALMOST there.

[@josealejandrogarciarojas2218]

You mean horizontal clip view? That would be amazing