NEW! Noveske Space Invader Review: The Best New 9mm PCC?

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@scottsaylors1996
@scottsaylors1996 5 жыл бұрын
There is no reason for this thing being 2500$
@DvBattlegears
@DvBattlegears 5 жыл бұрын
Yes there is!! Greeds!!
@PKBratney
@PKBratney 5 жыл бұрын
Twice a year, Noveske has a 20% sale. Wait for that. Still, for the $$$ I'd rather spend just a bit more and have an LWRC SMG-45.
@pztgst
@pztgst 5 жыл бұрын
Noveske does make some really nice barrels. But I wouldnt buy anything completed from them. Super overpriced for what you are actually getting.
@kylethedalek
@kylethedalek 5 жыл бұрын
Here a weird question, I know guys into guns and all that and they like military stuff. But they think you shouldn’t be allowed to have (or carry.) a knuckle duster or a “zombie knife” but an AR-15 is fine? I don’t even know how to get my head around that.
@Turtl-ss4lj
@Turtl-ss4lj 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Built mine for $700, and has almost all the same features. Only difference is that mine has a law tactical folder, 3.5 lb trigger, shorter barrel, and takes Glock mags. I’d take mine over theirs everyday.
@kennethwalton5582
@kennethwalton5582 5 жыл бұрын
Great gun but comparable options are already available for far less money; CMMG BANSHEE and SIG MPX to name 2. They'll definitely have to drop the price to be competitive, especially if the magazine issue isn't fixed.
@jojodesal
@jojodesal Жыл бұрын
Banshee and (especially) MPX are much better. This is regular blowback. I’ve seen guns like this for 700.00.
@01HondaS2kXD
@01HondaS2kXD 5 жыл бұрын
Nah. I’ll be going with CMMG’s radial delayed system when I get around to building a PCC.
@rsuninv
@rsuninv 5 жыл бұрын
Love my CMMG.
@openmythirdeye
@openmythirdeye 5 жыл бұрын
Building? Just buy one
@pztgst
@pztgst 5 жыл бұрын
CMMG also has the full size AR mag conversion. A bit pricey, but they are nice. Also holds standard 30 rounds if you don't live in a commie state.
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 5 жыл бұрын
I was coming down here to write THIS comment. :claps:
@01HondaS2kXD
@01HondaS2kXD 5 жыл бұрын
Brian nah. I’m gonna use their 9ARC mags so I can use my SBR’d lower with their radial upper.
@MUCKLEECH
@MUCKLEECH 5 жыл бұрын
For the price, I think i'd get a B&T
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
Not the CMMG 10mm?
@shirolee
@shirolee 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@tommcfarland5368
@tommcfarland5368 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@royorkesjr.445
@royorkesjr.445 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel the same way...B&T in my opinion is better quality than Noveske
@Zcs2727
@Zcs2727 3 жыл бұрын
I was comparing the two and I ended up getting a b&t. Absolutely love it.
@codyhess5713
@codyhess5713 5 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it if $2000 was stuffed in the mag well. That's just a dumb amount of money
@russdenney
@russdenney 4 жыл бұрын
Only if you can't afford it. I own two - one for each hand.
@LîNkxUSMC
@LîNkxUSMC 4 жыл бұрын
@@russdenney so you're as reckless with your "aim" as you are with your money, got it.
@nutball3756
@nutball3756 3 жыл бұрын
@@russdenney How much debt are you in?
@ETHRON1
@ETHRON1 5 жыл бұрын
2.5 K For a straight blow back that doesn't take Glock mags.....I'll get a PSA thank you.
@j.rashid8257
@j.rashid8257 5 жыл бұрын
Ruger pcc takedown $575 with mlok and takes glock mags. Nothing agaisnt noveske but 2500, wow!
@920utdoors9
@920utdoors9 5 жыл бұрын
You used noveske and PSA in the same sentence 🤢
@Born2doom
@Born2doom 5 жыл бұрын
ETHRON1 PSA is garbage! Good luck though!
@j.rashid8257
@j.rashid8257 5 жыл бұрын
@@Born2doom have 3 PSA rifles as my have fun, throw them In my car, loan them to my buddies and don't care about round count and have had zero issues with them. Since then two of my friends bought their freedom rifles a year ago and yet to have any issues. There are lemons with every company but to shame people because they don't have a Gucci rifle set up instead of encouraging them to get Into the shooting sports is crap. I had to take alot of time to get a quality rifle In my rotation but my so called POS PSA's still go bang after thousands of rounds between them.
@scoe5908
@scoe5908 5 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be a snob but PSA and Noveske are in different continents when it comes to quality. I'm not saying PSA are garbage but a Porsche and a Hyundai really aren't competitors to each other.
@jims4x4
@jims4x4 5 жыл бұрын
Just ran mine through my first 2 gun 6 stage competition today,amazing is the word,with a poa/poi zero at 10 yds for home defense I was still able to pull off 100 and 200yd hits on steel,ran flawless but remember to down load by 1 if you want the mag to lock on a closed bolt. I wanted a quality Noveske and didn’t mind paying for it,very happy with my decision to buy regardless of the price,but I did get a good deal on it from my local shop.The same folks griping prob will bitch at a guy for buying a Ferrari when their Corvette is just as fast,some people just like nice ,limited supply things,don’t hate .
@fortknoxpodcast
@fortknoxpodcast 5 жыл бұрын
remember most people cant afford the gun let alone the ammo.
@jims4x4
@jims4x4 5 жыл бұрын
So true ,I’m glad I worked hard all my life and am able to buy the things I want .
@princevalencia8816
@princevalencia8816 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@princevalencia8816
@princevalencia8816 2 жыл бұрын
Majority of the people bitching and comparing have never seen or held a Noveske and PSA side by side. When you pick up a PSA, you worry about QC, reliability, and whether it’s worth it or not or if you’re just wasting money. When you pick up a Noveske, you think about all the reasons why you shouldn’t get it because it’s hard to put it down. It sells itself. You never purchase a Noveske and wonder if you should’ve bought the PSA. But if you buy the PSA, you will always have a want for a Noveske.
@israelhoffman8074
@israelhoffman8074 5 жыл бұрын
The Colt Mag looks so good I have no idea why anyone would want a slanted Glock magazine.
@LThanhHao232
@LThanhHao232 5 жыл бұрын
Because interchangeable mag for people who use both glock and 9mm pcc
@01HondaS2kXD
@01HondaS2kXD 5 жыл бұрын
Because they already have dozens of Glock mags.
@WhalesWilly
@WhalesWilly 5 жыл бұрын
Because they are available EVERYWHERE
@deafdeal3r
@deafdeal3r 5 жыл бұрын
battle arms development was one manufacturer that i was assuming was gonna use colt mags, because it fits there design better aesthetically. but nope glock mags
@slmiller988
@slmiller988 5 жыл бұрын
I love how people keep pretending they have mountains of glock 33rd mags just laying around.
@theprimeduck8931
@theprimeduck8931 5 жыл бұрын
I lost it at, "ProMag. Garbage tier magazine manufacturer." Lmao.
@derickhoda6679
@derickhoda6679 5 жыл бұрын
There's no way I'd pay $2500 for a blowback 9mm
@stevefrench9341
@stevefrench9341 5 жыл бұрын
Derick Hoda you mean no way you could.. Because you’re poor...
@ALee-if6ld
@ALee-if6ld 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know what's worse than being poor? Making poor financial decisions, like paying 2500 for a Plain Jane ar9.
@derekbrogan4241
@derekbrogan4241 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevefrench9341 there are some really shit guns for more money . Expensive =/= quality, get your head out of your ass.
@derickhoda6679
@derickhoda6679 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevefrench9341 bet you own a lot of expensive, shit firearms. It's not about the money, it's what you get for your money
@chevydrum82
@chevydrum82 5 жыл бұрын
That's how much i paid for my piston ar10
@OperatorDirge
@OperatorDirge 5 жыл бұрын
James: "I'm sure for $2500, the only space that this-" Me: *NOPE.*
@1unkn0wn
@1unkn0wn 3 жыл бұрын
esp now that the Aero EPC is out now.
@fatoni698
@fatoni698 5 жыл бұрын
$2550 is almost LWRC SMG45 territory and the LWRC blows this thing out of the water.
@PKBratney
@PKBratney 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction. Now that I know about the SMG-45, I'll be putting my money toward that for a PCC.
@fatoni698
@fatoni698 5 жыл бұрын
@@PKBratney I shot one at a range and it's phenomenal.
@Xvhalk3rieX
@Xvhalk3rieX 5 жыл бұрын
I died when he said "For all the lefties if your mom was a witch"
@averageenthusiast5689
@averageenthusiast5689 5 жыл бұрын
Do the math? Hmm..okay. Lets add this, multiply that....carry the 1, divided into that and the answer is...NO. Beautiful PCC but in my world, there is a very long shopping list of stuff that I would spend $2,500 on before a 9mm PCC. Too many other genuinely good options out there. Even if I considered one, after seeing it choke on the range like that, I would not purchase one at any price. Thanks for the honest review!
@pops71
@pops71 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the MPX is a better option IMO. Shoot, grab a PSA ak9, trick it out with all the cool goodies and have a pile of cash leftover.
@anthonyharvey5942
@anthonyharvey5942 5 жыл бұрын
A blowback AR 9 with failures for $2,500. Is just ridiculous
@Tim51Tom
@Tim51Tom 4 жыл бұрын
Best gun review line ever! "The finish will standup against any abuse you can throw at it, from inside of your safe". Haha
@rjtopper68
@rjtopper68 5 жыл бұрын
hehe "if your mom was a witch"....caught that. nice review, awesome looking, but dang the price though....
@texasranger24
@texasranger24 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 9mm PCC choices: 1. CMMG Banshee radial delayed blowback 2. CMMG again. Yes it's that good. 3. H&K MP5 clone 4. Anything Sig or CZ produce 5. Anything else that isn't 2500 for a straight blowback 9mm like this
@aaronl2606
@aaronl2606 5 жыл бұрын
Ding Ding Ding - Best comment - Period
@humanbass
@humanbass 5 жыл бұрын
Extar EP9 just 400 bucks.
@blue_ridge_shooting762
@blue_ridge_shooting762 5 жыл бұрын
For that price I'd rather get an MP5 clone and leave straight blowback behind. That's just too much money and those features don't really justify it using shitty mags and being straight blowback but I doubt Noveske was targeting anyone but the gun snob and hipster market with this one.
@fortknoxpodcast
@fortknoxpodcast 5 жыл бұрын
they are targeting people with money.
@havoc1zero
@havoc1zero 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Hipsters with more money than brains is their target market.
@ceejay8775
@ceejay8775 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I’d rather have a mp5
@731trident
@731trident 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 9mm Banshee. It's about half the price, takes Glock mags, has radial delay blowback (lighter bolt, less felt recoil, less gas in the face suppressed), and comes in many colors from the factory. I do love the Q stock, however!
@brianmccullough8493
@brianmccullough8493 5 жыл бұрын
Idc what anyone says; the Calico M900 is the master “Get outa my Swamp”-ski.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 5 жыл бұрын
I think James nailed it when he said these guns will be safe queens and/or tactical LARPing toys. Because IMO, the only kind of person who'd be willing to cough up $2500 for a straight blowback PCC with stick mags is someone with more money than sense.
@rotadyma
@rotadyma 5 жыл бұрын
No thanks. For the money, I'll run a CZ Scorpion or a CMMG Banshee
@iLivenAmurica
@iLivenAmurica 4 жыл бұрын
Banshee’s run for ~$1500 and the Scorpion is ~$1000. You can get both!
@markbrandt504
@markbrandt504 5 жыл бұрын
If I had so much money and wanted every gun ever made I'd get one. But if I was looking to splurge on 1 nice gun which I do about once a year. This wouldn't even come close to the top of the list. So many better options for equal or lesser price.
@bravo_cj
@bravo_cj Жыл бұрын
4:19 This clip really demonstrates how clever the buffer tube on ARs is. It makes the receiver so short that even with a buffer tube your overall size wil be comparable to a regular design without a buffer tube while making the gun lighter, more soft-shooting, and compact with the stock fully extended. The idea of making use of the space took up by the stock is actually identical to the motivation of bullpups. Eugene Stoner, and Johnson who of course designed the Johnson rifle and participated in the designing process of AR-15 and contributed to a lot of key features, are truely genius.
@FelixDKatz-tb7or
@FelixDKatz-tb7or 5 жыл бұрын
And it will still fire with cliff bar crumbs dribbled in to the action
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 5 жыл бұрын
Pure Protein Chocolate/Peanut Butter
@FelixDKatz-tb7or
@FelixDKatz-tb7or 5 жыл бұрын
@@tfbtv My second guess was the Luna bar. But the ability to fire through that gunk seems worth $2550. just glad you didn't chew up all the steel at SPISC this time.
@Joe-sh2tf
@Joe-sh2tf 5 жыл бұрын
Your NUTS! $2,550.00 NO THANKS!
@scottsaylors1996
@scottsaylors1996 5 жыл бұрын
Noveske = the Starbucks of the gun world
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 5 жыл бұрын
Nah,that's Q..
@scottsaylors1996
@scottsaylors1996 5 жыл бұрын
akmarksman hahaha yeah I forgot about q but at least they make a cool unique bolt gun
@drivanradosivic1357
@drivanradosivic1357 5 жыл бұрын
it looks like a Walther MPL and a AR15, nice! :D
@drewfullhart1750
@drewfullhart1750 4 жыл бұрын
I alwsys forget that this channel isnt like 5 million subscribers because the production quality is so so high. Amazing videos!
@cadian122
@cadian122 5 жыл бұрын
Outrageous price... If I'm gonna spend 2k plus on a smg it's gonna be a HK or a B&T ... I'm very happy with my CZ Scorpion Evo with brace for 750 bucks...
@Fantasma781
@Fantasma781 3 жыл бұрын
The b&t is a nice option it’s basically the same price but I think the space invader looks better and it’s basically a modern day mp5. Plus noveske are deff the superior barrels on the market. I’ve had a space invader for a year and it surprises me every time how accurate it is. The only issues I’ve ever seen involve the original noveske branded colt mags but they recently released a duramag with the noveske logo on it and I have several duramags and I’ve never had 1 issue and I shoot a lot.
@MoRoTheGKnight
@MoRoTheGKnight 4 жыл бұрын
I built my first AR9 with the colt pattern mags for under $1000. Spank the colt mags in to ensure proper seating. As far as the reliability? Mine works as long as it is well lubed and clean. Problems don’t start to arise until the second range day without a cleaning. But if we’re talking about these for strictly range use and gun safe storage, I’ll take mine over that one. I work for a living, like most of the others in the comments, and that gun you showed us better do a lot more than what it did for the price. [Stay Safe and Keep Building]
@aking8477
@aking8477 4 жыл бұрын
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite KZbin channels.
@fuzzyreticle
@fuzzyreticle 5 жыл бұрын
For the $ I would get a Zenith Z5RS. I did.
@jwc00789
@jwc00789 5 жыл бұрын
For considerably less, I can pick up a Grand Power Stribog Pistol and put an AR Brace on it.
@collector7993
@collector7993 3 жыл бұрын
Its got one thing other 9s don't, Noveske name! Also like good real estate it will hold it's value and increase over the years.✌
@curtisowens6236
@curtisowens6236 5 жыл бұрын
For that price tag this thing would have to be able to make me breakfast every morning.
@DEUSSD
@DEUSSD 5 жыл бұрын
Still watiing for the 10mm version.
@aaronl2606
@aaronl2606 5 жыл бұрын
CMMG just launched it - Banshee MK10 www.cmmginc.com/10mm/ Your welcome!
@Hawgacydal
@Hawgacydal 4 жыл бұрын
Love the whole TFBTV Clan, but James is near and dear to my beer!! Cheers!!
@daisymontague9515
@daisymontague9515 5 жыл бұрын
I’d rather get a stribog and get the conversion kit to turn it into an apc9.
@artwebb6939
@artwebb6939 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's a very high-quality gun Rolls Royce builds a very high quality car ( or so I'm told) I can't afford either one of them, so it's irrelevant to me whether it's worth it or not
@tanishazoa138
@tanishazoa138 16 күн бұрын
@12:40 Not knowing how many rounds you have can be a hazard. That time you spend fumbling around with the mag while there was one stuck in the chamber, is when the enemey can advance on your position. Keep that in mind!
@WarningHPB
@WarningHPB 5 жыл бұрын
imho a CMMG would be what i'd go for but if I "had to" spend that kinda money probably get a B&T instead
@CA.0verview
@CA.0verview 5 жыл бұрын
I’m making a meme out of that pump shirt. That was gold 🤣🤣🤣💀
@zeroin8157
@zeroin8157 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick with my Banshee baby!
@teddydavid2816
@teddydavid2816 5 жыл бұрын
I think you pretty much nailed it with your assessment towards the end,,, If you're rich, or a Noveske enthusiast etc, it's worth it. If not there are plenty of other way more economical options. Does this even have LRBHO? Shoot I'd take a PSA and throw in a dope trigger and some other trick components and it will do everything this does and have money left over to buy another gun,,, you can never have too many guns...
@JeDudeShow
@JeDudeShow 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone sleeping on the B&T ghm9c.
@03Grunt-arrino
@03Grunt-arrino 5 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely sexy... Ain’t no APC9 though. Thanks for the review.
@holdernewtshesrearin5471
@holdernewtshesrearin5471 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. On a side note- i have a few ProMag RM (roller mag) AR-15 mags that have been very good. Theyre made of a tough polymer and the follower is very well made and works perfectly. The rollers provide a smooth feeding action with excellent anti-tilt properties. They load easily, feed smoothly, lock open on empty and are overall very tough and durable. The RM is the ONLY ProMag i will EVER recommend ! But the RMs are quite good. Check them out. Just thought id pass that along. Btw the ETS clear AR-15 mags are also excellent. As are the Lancer L5 AWM translucent AR-15 mags and L7 AWM AR-10 mags. Other than Magpul P-mags and good old Okay brand aluminum G.I. mags, they are the ONLY mags i use. Just a FYI.
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 5 жыл бұрын
>Colt SMG stick mags (no one, literally no one, asked for this) >$2,500 ...Is this an out-of-season April Fool's joke? Did someone at Noveske lose their mind or lose a bet?
@toki89666
@toki89666 5 жыл бұрын
While logistically Glock mags are a much better choice, the Colt SMG mags look 1000x better in an AR PCC. The swept back angle of the Glock mags just looks wrong. My 2¢
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 5 жыл бұрын
@@toki89666 I didn't even mention Glock. For what it's worth, having them use Cobray/MAC pattern magazines would probably give the end-user the most leeway and options. A lot, and I do mean a lot, of Cobray M-11 mags are garbage. But there's also a LOT of them and they are still being made, and by reputable companies. Shockwave Industries makes M-11 magazines in steel in various capacities that, while not cheap, are considered some of the best and most well-made current production steel stick mags for SMG and PCC use on the market. There's a lot of M-11 variant owners out there, ranging from question-quality 2nd tier AWB-day manufacturers all the way up to pre-AWB Title II select fire machine guns (since MAC-10s and M-11s are/were one of the few "affordable" machine guns to buy for the longest time and were relatively plentiful). Almost all of them swear by how rock-solid Shockwave Industries mags are, even in full-auto fire. Best part is if you make it M-11 magazine well based, you can adapt and convert Sten magazines to use for it (the first M-11s actually used modified Sten mags). That means EVEN MORE magazine options. Honestly, point to an SMG stick mag pattern and I'll probably take it over the Colt SMG pattern. M-11 comes to mind because of availability, options and there actually being quality magazines available that work. Colt patterns mean... well, availability? Mostly?
@trgg01
@trgg01 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching this while eating, I sprayed my computer with mashed pastas at 1:12 !
@royorkesjr.445
@royorkesjr.445 4 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious 😂...
@JoeyBaby47
@JoeyBaby47 5 жыл бұрын
I'll buy 2 CMMG Banshees.
@laserbrain7774
@laserbrain7774 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me about tri lug. I had no idea what that was.
@derekbrogan4241
@derekbrogan4241 5 жыл бұрын
"Dad joke" So you ARE my dad???
@sealove79able
@sealove79able Жыл бұрын
A great neat video and pcc Mr.James. As sweet as smoked brisket.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribe to James because of his personality and comedy. His little random drops here and there like "If your mom was a witch" fucking KILLS ME LMAO!!
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 4 жыл бұрын
It's a more ergonomic but less reliable (due to mags) Hi-Point carbine at about 10x the cost. Absolutely _hell no._
@royorkesjr.445
@royorkesjr.445 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I would buy 7 Hi Point Carbines for that ridiculous price and be just as reliable...
@LEWTSPEC
@LEWTSPEC 5 жыл бұрын
Looks better and lower profile than the mpx, more modular than the mp5. Worth it to me to have a non-ugly mpx and a non ancient mp5. Mag issues can be fixed. Same ammo for my m&p. I also hate smg's with slanted mags and really like the 90* vertical mag look.
@rickyb4933
@rickyb4933 5 жыл бұрын
I stick to my PTR ..... no thanks, crazy $$, I'll save the $$ and spend more time at the range and buy more ammo
@jpchiesa
@jpchiesa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm behind the times on this video. When James mentioned he and Taran Butler loved the Sig Mpx it made me suspect that Sig "cherry picked" their guns. When I bought my 9" Mpx it cost me 2 gold magic beans. (2k). But that was for a gun with no sights or optics. So 1/2 a magic gold bean for a Sig Romeo and MagPul pop up sights (as back ups). Then there was the charging handle. It seriously would make you think that it would either damage the upper or break, so 2/10's of a gold bean to replace it with a radian charge handle and specially designed shim to solve this problem. Then there was the trigger. It was probably the worst trigger I've owned and that's saying a lot, so more gold for a Timney drop in trigger designed for the Sig. Well after beating the snot out of it with a wood mallet and block and it becoming a one shot wonder, we found out from Timney they had sent the wrong model. Now it breaks like a glass rod. Now we come to the SB tactical dual rod brace. It seriously wobbled and after contacting them was told there was q.c. issue and was told they would replace it when the next lot was manufactured.... four months later! (But to their credit they did replace it with a well functioning model!). Now unlike the youthful James, that felt recoil was disconcerting, so I purchased the Spikes Tactical Barking Spider muzzle brake, without a doubt one of the best designed muzzle brakes made! It virtually eliminated all felt recoil. So now I have one of the best "pdw" 9mm pistols, if not the best, but damn if it doesn't cost more than the Noveski!
@Excard0n
@Excard0n 5 жыл бұрын
My $850 AR9 that takes Glock mags from a local manufacturer works well enough for me. The Space Invader looks slick, but that mag failure issue is painful.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 5 жыл бұрын
11:27 His muscles have muscles 💪 But he's resting that barrel on the barrricade
@zachconant7031
@zachconant7031 5 жыл бұрын
You gotta have muscles... on your eyeballs!!
@pescad0
@pescad0 5 жыл бұрын
putting the No in Noveske
@Polskmofo
@Polskmofo 5 жыл бұрын
Everything noveske is over priced. I’d just get a cmmg
@911couple5
@911couple5 5 жыл бұрын
Totally buying one. I’m a pdw junkie
@Ch-hv7hw
@Ch-hv7hw Жыл бұрын
Wolf extra power springs for colt pattern mags are A+
@EtherFox
@EtherFox 5 жыл бұрын
Colt SMG mags are pretty reliable IME. Not sure what brands James was running but I've seen them go full hours of shooting without hiccups.
@Turtl-ss4lj
@Turtl-ss4lj 5 жыл бұрын
So, I built my ar-9 for around $700 with a 5.5” barrel, 3.5 lb trigger, and a law tactical folder. Fits in my small backpack with ease. Obviously, I wanted it to take Glock mags because I’m smart (33 rounds instead of 32, and commonality). Here’s the thing, I went with the stern defense adapter because I wanted to use the psa “space rider” lower. Was digging the space theme, and threw some blue accents on there. In comparison, mine was cheaper, has performed better (so far), takes better mags, is more compact, has a lighter trigger, has blue, and is a space rider while theirs is a space invader. For one, I feel personally attacked. Two, Noveske, you’s guys clearly need to hire me!
@tylero2112
@tylero2112 5 жыл бұрын
For that money. Give me a honey badger.
@timb8970
@timb8970 5 жыл бұрын
just my opinion, but anyway you slice it not worth $2500.
@Xeonerable
@Xeonerable 5 жыл бұрын
It's a cool looking gun for sure, but not $2500 cool. Might as well get a SIG MPX if you are going to dish out that much money for a 9mm PCC.
@adamadams6740
@adamadams6740 4 жыл бұрын
511 stuff is really good,there’s a brick and mortar 5 miles from me and conveniently next to my in door range! Good shite!
@WhalesWilly
@WhalesWilly 5 жыл бұрын
Other than looking good, I don't see how this is any better than a Banshee with the delayed blowback
@liqurmeup
@liqurmeup 5 жыл бұрын
I love the gun but not the price. I'm going with the grand power stribog gen 2, with arm brace.
@Mago84013
@Mago84013 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy the 511 shoes now that I know they are sponsoring you.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 5 жыл бұрын
The Norris is actually awesome
@thedefinitive6296
@thedefinitive6296 5 жыл бұрын
I can't say it's not worth the asking price because it's obviously a quality product. But for my money, just no. It's not worth it to me. If I had to get a 9mm pseudoSMG/PCC, I'd probably go with an MPX, PSA AK-V, or the CMMG Mk10 if I wanted to go 10mm. Very nice gun though and even if the mags don't quite work right in the gun, I'm glad they didn't just go with Glock mags
@cyberbillp
@cyberbillp 4 жыл бұрын
I got one thing to say: CMR-30, only about $350. Or if you need Gucci, Falkor Defense Rush 300.
@StevePro2A
@StevePro2A 5 жыл бұрын
For me the Banshee is the better deal. The radial delayed blow back is the way to go in my opinion.
@Hasel32CH
@Hasel32CH 4 жыл бұрын
So I went with the BRO Ion 9... btw James you should review that :)
@tom3699
@tom3699 2 жыл бұрын
Uzi magazines are one of the best magazines out there. You my friend have been sipping on to much imported beer.
@cekamsr
@cekamsr 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Sig MPX w/Franklin Armory 3-position binary trigger and Silencer Co Octane 9 silencer for about the same price as this weapon. Sig also uses a dual piston system which keeps the BCG cleaner and more reliable where that is a blowback weapon.
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 5 жыл бұрын
Im sorry..id like honestly to be all...its noveske its awesome its got unobtainium..but it dont.. Im just gonna fing say it. Its an inferior system to the cmmg system...period. 2500 is honestly an insult.
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 And youre talking out your ass but im not over here bringing that up all unprovoked.
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 Its just cool aid. If colt can make a "military grade" colt gov m4 for less than 1000 bucks...mossberg can make a 590 for dirt cheap...and a plethora of other companies can do the same...the military grade argument just dosnt pass the smell test man. Colt 9mm sub guns come in well..WELL under 2500..now im not saying their as tricked as the noveske. For that the veske surely should be at a higher price point but military grade is basically the worst argument for an excessively high price. And please produce your evidence for the metals used in the critical components of the noveske versus the cmmg...if you cant than you are indeed talking based on knowledge you do not have.
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 buddy..your initial reply was literally a rebuttal to my saying it wasnt worth the price..so yeah you kinda did argue it was worth the price lol You cant keep track of your own argument nor do you bring any factual data to the table for a conversation you started. You keep drinking that koolaid and ill just fall back on my years of cooking barrels and thousands of rounds spent.. By the way there is no spec sheets for the materials of either rifle in question so..ask Yourself where you getting this info..the..internet perhaps?...you even own or have you ever owned these brands? Haha Just in case you missed it Me..this rifle has an inferior system by comparison to other offerings.. You.. maybe a better system but the veske is better cause its got better material (Which you nor i can prove or disprove) I dont argue based on bs lack of knowledge. Ive never seen either go head to head ive never seen their spec sheets in terms of material used..thats why the only point i made was the system is inferior and it hella is. You however came around with your mouth running words you literally have no evidence to back up. But you keep it up..youll learn alot of actual facts that way!
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 ill tell you this though...as soon as someone finally does it and puts these 2 head to head for a reliability test we need to meet right back here the dsy after haha.. And if im wrong ill gladly eat these words..but i wont take back that you use circular logic lol
@juliette2366
@juliette2366 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbarclay4114 And id agree for the most part..ive just learned along the way not everything cheaper isnt proven or going to be proven good. I dont hate veske..id trust my life to one but all companies have had issues..i recall wilsons 9mm sub gun being a peice of s for example..id even argue that the space invader by comparison would be the 2500 gun i bought over the wilson if i were to buy a 2000 dollar or more sub gun lol. I personally run a daniel DDM4A1..daniel has had its issues..hell geissele is having a bit of a tiff with its new rail at the moment..for what its worth i see what youre saying and dont at its core disagree with your overall point of buy quality. Ive just learned that quality isnt always a cookie cutter thing. By the way..fellow glock guy here.
@spade2you
@spade2you 5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Colt patterned Rock River 9mm. Never jammed with pro mags or the good stuff. The Uzi mag follower isn't tall enough to engage the last round bolt hold open.
@1804unclesam
@1804unclesam 5 жыл бұрын
That’s okay, I got a FM 8.5” AR9 for $700 and I’m thrilled with it, even with an optic and SBA3 brace I’m in it for $1K, I’ll stick with that. I’d like to see a review on that.
@thelos8093
@thelos8093 3 жыл бұрын
Just like that ladies and gentlemen.. B&T APC9 PRO still undefeated! 😆
@mikes1172
@mikes1172 5 жыл бұрын
I own a few toys just picked up an Extar9, total cost $419. Yes, I know polymer versus nice machining but is this platform going to perform almost 7x better than a Extar? Hardly. The Extar you will shoot, drop, wallowing in the mud with it, spray paint it, loan it to a friend, let your girlfriend shoot it, leave it in your cabin-camper. This firearm will never do any of that, nor be low crawled across the ground and if you dropped it you would cry. James version is easily $3200 with optic and SBR Stamp, plus another $240.00 state Tax here in Florida, a likely 10 month wait and then you need Colt Magazines, which you will never use for anything else. So, this setup is more like $3500 plus magazines and that is far beyond what it should cost. Back 20 years ago this was the cost of a Full Auto lower end SMG.
@zeroxwolfx
@zeroxwolfx 4 жыл бұрын
So... why buy this when you could get an actual mp5 for less?
@3ThreeGunner
@3ThreeGunner 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Spuhr mount at 09:30 ish
@PKBratney
@PKBratney 5 жыл бұрын
Spuhr makes dope mounts. Probably costs more than the MRO, though haha.
@TheRyrussell22
@TheRyrussell22 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. This is a $950 9mm carbine.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding pistol! IMHO I can purchase a PCC that has the absolute best machining and quality on the Market and save myself a grand. I recall your review of the B&T GHM. Not only did you highly recommend the B&T with it’s hydraulic buffer system , but apparently the US military agreed with you on its full auto SMG. This is good pistol, but good is the enemy of better. I can do better.
@motojesse
@motojesse 5 жыл бұрын
Sticking with my MPX
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 4 жыл бұрын
That Federal defensive ammo they're planning on selling at a price competitive with FMJ target ammo sounds like the right kind of ammo for stockpiling. If there's a TFB boogaloo ammo vid I expect it to make an appearance.
@kevinrhodes8410
@kevinrhodes8410 5 жыл бұрын
The Noveske rifles that are worth money are the the ones Noveske built with his own hands before he passed.
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd 5 жыл бұрын
12:46 Does James think he's Mozzie from Rainbow Six Siege?
@zachconant7031
@zachconant7031 5 жыл бұрын
He’s got by far the coolest reload in the game
@CorwinBos
@CorwinBos 5 жыл бұрын
I think the lower is pretty bad ass, but would much prefer a Gibbs side charging upper on it. As far as mags go, yes the Colt style mags are hard to seat at 32 rounds on a closed bolt, but you can drop to 30 and seat with no issues. The LRBHO with the Colt mags generally work better than Glock mags. I use ASC and PSA (Metalform IIRC) on my AR9 with no issues.
@jason2800
@jason2800 5 жыл бұрын
I dropped $2600 on a 9mm PCC and I love it...B&T APC9!
@basicallyhell4150
@basicallyhell4150 5 жыл бұрын
Id prefer a mp5 because looking cool is more important
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