New online harms bill proposes changes to Criminal Code | Power & Politics

[@TemporalAberration]

Very dangerous bill. Life in prison for speech, overly broad rules and fines that will probably make many conpanies just stop operating in Canada, and sets the groundwork for a full on surveillance state.

[@Jonnyx180]

Antichrist system set up.protects few but Hurst most .canada is a sad place used to be better back then

[@Jonnyx180]

I agree with the bad stuff being removed but people's rights will be affected as most stuff is * hate speech these days based on feelings rather than facts In some cases only

[@lizanderson1669]

he admires China

[@themonrovian8441]

@@ruthhenry9577moron

[@BIGMIKESKNUTTS]

@@ruthhenry9577Canada is TOAST 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@43YrOldWoWCatLady]

Benjamin Franklin once observed that “those who surrender liberty for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” I would submit that this current government is the greatest threat to both freedom AND security that the nation has ever faced.

[@wqv5423ln]

100 % right ! We are losing our liberties bill after bill !

[@GoLightly01100]

Sure. Park that conservative paranoia in your tinfoil hat 😂😂😂

[@BudzzableRides]

Silence the peasants at any cost!

[@skywriter14]

Well, I dont disagree with the sentiment, but try saying that to the security at the Airport when they try to walk you through the metal detector. We are far from the simplistic world where these noble sentiments can be followed to the letter.

[@winonebud]

It's as if Vlad Putin took over Canada. Why are we fighting Russia, if we are becoming them?

[@johnhess9443]

These are scary times for Canada. Before I'm not able to say it.. We shouldn't have allowed what Trudeau has done to this country. It's an absolute shame.

[@philster6383]

Stop your crying and misinformation

[@basilcarroll9729]

​@@philster6383That sounded like it was hateful.

[@GM-cm3qc]

@@basilcarroll9729I agree he should be fined and sentenced!

[@basilcarroll9729]

@@GM-cm3qc He called someone a rightwing nut job 3 weeks ago,he is under surveillance.

[@thrasherxcv]

So dramatic lmao

[@jod.and6996]

Life in prison for words? Get real.

[@SuperMrMTB]

Vote conservative

[@mechano6505]

Potential life in prison for speech of any kind is insane.

[@A.HamdyHasan]

I tend to agree. Even for people inciting genocide, I believe it shouldn't be more than 14 years in the worst of cases. It is still speech in the end. They didn't commit the act of genocide or were accessory to it.

[@fkb247]

​@@A.HamdyHasan How should the government handle this situation? Like all the others?

[@JThompson17]

Governments commit democide all the time

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@fkb247 I believe a potential lifetime sentence is still so harsh. I'd suggest a minimum mandatory 18 months sentence for first offence and 3 years for second and 7 for third and prosecuting it exclusively by indictment. That should be more than sufficient to take care of this issue. A life sentence is too much I find.

[@scottschilling6688]

Robert Picton is up for parole for murdering more than few people... if he committed a speech crime on the internet he would get a harsher punishment? :( :(??. Repeat offenders whoa re violent get released without bail in Canada under this government.

[@cestmoi7368]

How can this Orwellian nightmare happen in what was once a proud free nation??????

[@mysterycheez]

People elected Trudeau, that's how. 😡

[@simpletown323]

You never had true freedom and never will. One person's freedoms almost always come at the cost of others

[@BudzzableRides]

Silence the peasants!

[@nBodyResearch]

@int11saying other places have less freedom isn’t a valid argument against a country with many freedoms losing their’s

[@hissingoose]

People voted for liberals and NDP. That’s your answer.

[@Catherine-2008]

This is so terrifying! Canada is not a free country!

[@mrsmiley4842]

You're just learning this now?

[@goldenvoicehost5931]

Free has limit

[@kevingoodwin5177]

We already have more than adequate hate speech laws. No need for more. @@goldenvoicehost5931

[@rdpeach]

What arent you "free" to do in your everyday life?

[@Catherine-2008]

@@rdpeach Freedom of speech! What you define as not hate speech, the government may decide (because they haven't given a definition of what they consider hate speech) what you post is hate speech and can fine you or jail you. This is a very slippery slope!

[@waltergrace565]

Say good bye to free speech. Prime Minister Blackface demands compliance.

[@BudzzableRides]

Silence the peasants!

[@harrywood8196]

Wannabe Dictator

[@kanento]

Be careful you could be in prison for "hate" LOL

[@lorpis8284]

say goodbye to due process. read the thing, it's so much more than what you're being told.

[@cestmoi7368]

When you give up your freedom for “safety” you neither freedom nor safety.

[@emanuel4491]

@@Viewpoint11No it’s about power being a corruptive influence and government using that power to trample on citizens. Case in point the emergencies act.

[@emanuel4491]

@@Viewpoint11you’re assuming too much. I made no mention of those things. Simply to state that power will be abused. There will be a time when you will not agree with the government of the day. The principled stand would be to invoke government power only when necessary not to stifle speech you don’t approve of.

[@emanuel4491]

I’m sure there’s very little we agree but that doesn’t mean that I want the government to silence you. I suspect you’re all for government restrictions on speech, that is until there is a government you don’t like.

[@lregey]

This is not about protecting the children. We have laws ALREADY on the books for that! They won't get this bill through unless they blindfold people into thinking this bill is exactly what it is NOT!

[@lregey]

No, because I studied LAW.@@Viewpoint11

[@jkb358]

​@@Viewpoint11braindesd liberal alert!

[@googlesucks662]

@Viewpoint1 You must have failed then.

[@lorpis8284]

normal I would agree with you but given what the current government has gotten away with, I'm not sure the courts are up to the task. Time will tell though. Probably best to leave the country for a bit if this is finalized before the next election.

[@lregey]

You are so right about that. @@lorpis8284

[@on2thenextthing]

One more step towards becoming an authoritarian state.

[@lorpis8284]

this is a leap.

[@cestmoi7368]

Isn’t this the same guy that was screaming obscenities in the HOC recently….

[@googlesucks662]

And giving standing ovations to Nazis.

[@chrisburke624]

Oh the irony

[@festekj]

“ Protect adults “ online ? This is nuts !!!

[@trevorhardy3544]

Yes. The elderly are often targeted out of their money…

[@googlesucks662]

@@trevorhardy3544 By phone and by incessant solicitations from "registered charities" . These charities must share donor lists or get demographic information from the government. Of course Orwellian Trudeau does nothing to stop them from carrying out that elder abuse.

[@cestmoi7368]

Is it 1984?????

[@rickastleysrevenge3258]

More like the Gulag Archipelagos

[@Wade56]

🇨🇳 CENSORSHIP!

[@googlesucks662]

China doesn't need to censor. It has a government that actually improves the lives of its citizens. This is WEF through and through. Enjoy your new mandated serf status.

[@trunorth9243]

The Minister of Justice is proposing changes to the criminal code, can't define the law, and instead says it will be up to judges decide? Strange days indeed 🤔

[@googlesucks662]

These laws will be like Canada's criminal harassment law which, like all laws, is used to protect the rich and powerful from the poor and powerless, but on steroids. It must be opposed.

[@guymiller2842]

Liberal appointed judges….. that get their directive from our supreme leader.

[@lorpis8284]

Freedom must be maintained. This is the result of complacency while we worry about heating our houses, holding on to shelter, our next meal, and what bathroom to use.

[@gregpearson4263]

Wow we need a Conservative government badly

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@Viewpoint11 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@A.HamdyHasan]

The conservatives are already doing a bad job in Ontario when it comes to justice?

[@trunorth9243]

We need an election NOW!!!!!

[@danos2013]

What when did I move to Russia? Wait, did we get invited and I just didn’t notice?

[@elinkay4661]

Did they forget to turn the comment off this time? CBC is publicly funded by the taxpayers, they should never be allowed to censure the public’s opinions and feedback. It’s obvious that the majority of Canadian taxpayers are not happy with a lot of the government’s actions and the CBC stopping online discussions on these topics is very sinister and tyrannical.

[@basilcarroll9729]

Maybe they are hoping for hateful comments.

[@A.HamdyHasan]

No they didn't. The government is interested in seeing what we say and analyzing our behavior and comments.

[@Juve-4-4-2]

The liberal party has lost this voter indefinitely. From Covid onward, this party has gone too far. Orwellian. I’m out. I truly cannot stand with what you represent. I’m out. I’m done. You forced me to the right!

[@lorpis8284]

The Liberal brand is done for me as well. Karens bring me no joy.

[@AijLeggett]

Here's the issues. 1. Hatred is undefined. 2. You are not tried in front of a judge but a tribunal chose by the prime minister. 3. You're not allowed to face you're accuser. 4. Anyone from any country can Use This law against a canadian. 5. The law will be used to silence. Opposition against a tyrannical federal government. 5. You do not have to take an action but on suspicion that you might say something hateful. You can get a life sentence. 6. You're not allowed to defend you're reputation online. 7. It is designed to silence opposition. 8. It is a political weapon against the free and democratic people of canada!

[@kevingoodwin5177]

In an interview, years back, Trudeau referred to people from Alberta as "pieces of sh*t" ... hmmm I wonder if his new bill would mean that his own comment would now be called "hate speech" ? Also... I have noted that whenever a Muslim fanatic saws a head off in Europe, such as happened to a French professor recently, Canadian Muslims OPENLY EXPRESS JOY ONLINE, including on Facebook, claiming that the honour of their "prophet" has been avenged. No calls for censorship in such cases.

[@geegeeh.6118]

Actually what you said yourself about Canadian Muslims openly expressing joy online about a French professor being killed, is a form of hate speech for many reasons, and you would be held accountable for it. To help you understand it more, replace the word Muslim with Jewish and see how it feels to you. Does it sound like hate speech?

[@furiousstormrage927]

This is exactly what Canadians need - Liberals to take over the internet to protect us. lol

[@cestmoi7368]

They will control the narrative so the electorate have only the news they approve…..

[@johncam8420]

They don't want us to criticize them, its "bullying"

[@cg8912]

There is no such thing as online harm. It's only a pretense to use the justice system against dissenters and critics of liberal policies.

[@sirmcgarbage1372]

Is that because you conservatives are chronically online? Maybe go outside a bit

[@googlesucks662]

​@@sirmcgarbage1372Missed the point.

[@joemadden4160]

Trying to legislate peace, love and understanding...by FORCING people to never question THEM.

[@cestmoi7368]

The sole purpose of this “bull” is to control the narrative in advance of the next election..

[@lorpis8284]

you will love everything or else!

[@ninjasquirrelstudios]

In 2009, CBC President Hubert Lacroix commissioned a study to determine whether its news was biased, and if so, to what extent. He said: "Our job - and we take it seriously - is to ensure that the information that we put out is fair and unbiased in everything that we do." The study suggests Canadians perceived the CBC as having a more left-of-centre bias than other Canadian news organizations. A 2017 survey of Canadians suggested that CBC TV was the most biased national news media outlet (perceived biased by 50% of Canadians overall, tied with The Globe and Mail) followed closely by CBC Radio (perceived biased by 49% of Canadians overall). Respondents predominantly saw a bias towards CBC TV and radio coverage favouring the Liberal party, a view that held consistently across Conservative, Liberal and NDP voters.[

[@stratford374]

Cite your source?

[@HurdleHelps]

​@stratford374 how about you do some research, a 30 second Google search brings you to the material.

[@stratford374]

@@HurdleHelps I'm not the one making claims. Did you know that 83% of statistics are made up on the spot? Google it. I'll wait.

[@MuiKaHo]

@@HurdleHelps LOL is that how it works now. its YOUR statement so the other person has to cite it? NO, you provided the statement, then YOU provide the citation. come on this is basic high school stuff.

[@googlesucks662]

@@MuiKaHo An internet search is easy and the internet isn't high school. Anyone is free (for now) to determine the veracity of the claim. I don't see the CBC as leftist, it is imperialist, prowar, anti male, anti freedom, pro censorship and pro Trudeau and Freeland. In fact, Trudeau and Freeland and the CBC are practically identical in their outlooks on everything and it is impossible to tell who is mirroring or parroting who.

[@Myke_Lemons]

Here's a tip: if you're a parent who sees something you don't on the internet, keep your kid away. It's that simple. The whole world will not bow down to your fear. The world is full of scary things and if you teach your kid that you're going to make every place they go safe (which can never happen), they will be in more danger than the kids who are taught how to protect themselves and stay away from the danger.

[@A.HamdyHasan]

Children should be protected from online pedophiles and the social media companies facilitating the offenders' criminal conduct have to be held accountable no doubt! Evern if not all the danger could be eliminated, it has to be fought and taken very seriously rather than condoned.

[@shawniwanciw254]

We will never be able to communicate openly and discuss issues in online. You can’t even post a picture of a cop you record comitting a crime unless he gives you permission

[@darylwizzard5832]

Can Pierre cancel this when he becomes PM

[@JamesBond77]

If he has a majority government yes.

[@kanento]

We need him more than ever. This country is going down hill real fast

[@RobertaRico705]

I m sure Justin's doing everything he can to ruin us for his own benefit. We have turned on him and this is his revenge.. "if I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me..."

[@basilcarroll9729]

What this minister said the other day in Parliament directed at the leader of the opposition would be considered hate speech by some.

[@A.HamdyHasan]

Not really, that's not how it works!

[@themonrovian8441]

@@A.HamdyHasanit will

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@themonrovian8441 I understand your fears. It's already bad and many things need to be corrected. Abuse of authority and abuse of law are unacceptable.

[@themonrovian8441]

@@A.HamdyHasan Abuse of power is the lesson of history. We learned this lesson well long ago in the British legal tradition. That tradition and the legal protections which flow from it have been gleefully eviscerated by those who want to create a utopia. I'm not going down with them. There is no reason to stay in Canada any longer - my family has been here for two centuries and helped to carve this nation out of the raw forests but now it's time to leave. We can't save it. Good luck.

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@themonrovian8441 Totally understand your position and can't blame you. I was in the same state of mind 4 months ago and started seeking political asylum but decided to stay and had some hope when the crown started changing its attitude and withdrew the 4th case against me after my arrest from the courthouse upon attending a hearing for one of my appeals and pursured my detention as usual. I stayed in the suicide watch for 8 days and got bail then the crown withdrew the charges in the very first hearing without stating the reason in the court or sharing it with me. Good luck wherever you are, my friend!

[@randyromanick1871]

That's right CBC, keep pedaling your master Justin Trudeau's bs

[@endofdays5598]

Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

[@WackoJacko2016]

Will CBC ever have a balanced report with right and left leaning opinions? This legislation is terrifying

[@dinvsl]

"Hate speech" means speech hated by the lieberals, I guess. 😅 No law can prevent me hating Turdeau and his minions.

[@cestmoi7368]

Now you can go to prison for life for telling freeland what you think of her…..

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@cestmoi7368 That's not hate speech, hate speech has a definition by virtue of section 319 of the criminal code. You can still protest using profane language against politicians don't worry it is not criminal!

[@A.HamdyHasan]

You are absolutely entitled to dislike Trudeau and his political party as politicians and to express that freely and to even use profane language in criticizing them and making fun of them and to express that freely. This is your constitutional right. Hate speech as an offence that has a very specific definition indicated in section 319 of the criminal code and is completely different from expressing your views on the government and pouring your wrath on government's officials.

[@donaldcampbell3282]

governments should leave our speech alone

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Is "hate speech" speech that the listener/reader hates or is it speech that the listener/reader doesn't want to hear or see? Are differing viewpoints hate speech?

[@andrewmarkmusic]

We all know who refuses to be criticized...

[@idcraw]

I do not trust this weasel, is that hate speech Arif ?

[@A.HamdyHasan]

The answer to your question is not it is not hate speech as defined by the criminal code.

[@Stevi987]

More like criminalizing what harms them online.

[@403mt]

So tired of eastern Canada and their liberal cbc Trudeau loving cities.

[@alexiapucci4482]

Wolf in sheep's skin.

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Peoples "feelings" can be "hurt" so easily.

[@chrisministerofsmartarsery3322]

This new bill, if the government doesn’t like what you say & deems it ‘hate’ you can go to jail for LIFE. Canadians better read this.

[@2FLIPS3.5TWISTS]

It cannot because that is up to parents, not the government. If something hurts your feelings, scroll past, this is to distract Canadians, nothing less and nothing more.

[@FlakAttack0]

What speech could warrant lifetime imprisonment?

[@teddy4639]

CBC reporter: "how do I complain about things?"

[@Thisisbailie]

We need to make sure "misinformation" is not bundled into legislation

[@TorontoSaurusEx]

NO. We must defeat this legislation before it even gets past the bill stage.

[@googlesucks662]

Turdeau and his minions doing the WEFs bidding.

[@punkywood3037]

I wonder if there is any experts they could bring on to talk about the dangers of the government having this kind of overreach of power?????? Nothing?

[@TorontoSaurusEx]

IT IS UP TO THE PARENTS TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. STAY OUT OF OUR HOMES TRUDEAU AND WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN BROKEN FAMILY, ALRIGHT ?

[@themonrovian8441]

This is scarier than any horror movie I’ve ever seen 😮

[@otter662]

Probably should be broken into two separate bills: first, protecting children from harmful content; second, prevention of the incitement of hate. The first is probably more universally appreciated. However, the second is concerning because of its potential to be misused (also the present climate where offence can be interpreted as hate, and we as a society presently are so easily offended). Note the drafting of this bill comes at a time where the Liberal government has been faulted for failing to appoint a sufficient number of judges, and also the 'ArriveCan' (the latter would have constituted a major scandal with past governments). We should also remember the SNC Lavalin case and the government interference there with the independence of the then attorney general Jody-Wilson Raybould (and example of over-reach).

[@Jonnyx180]

This bill will cause mass choas long run.

[@Jonnyx180]

It's fine if bad stuff gets removed but alot of people think alot of stuff that is harassment but isn't. There are boundrys but this bill will break this boundry .

[@brently16]

Mr virani instead of changing legislation why don't you parent?

[@S1k18]

3:10 “The platform has to address content that could bully a child and content that could induce the child to self harm.” Wait wait wait… weren’t you guys the ones who also proposed a bill saying children as young as 12 could go into a doctors office and get self assisted sui****??

[@davidprimeau3368]

we already have laws

[@vaporazeen]

and those aren't working

[@waltergrace565]

@@vaporazeen How so?

[@A.HamdyHasan]

​@@waltergrace565Police and crown attorneys are politicised and are selectively enforcing the law. The problem is in the law enforcement and the detectives, not in the law.

[@waltergrace565]

@@A.HamdyHasan Well, I mean, that's obvious. So you think the answer is censorship?

[@A.HamdyHasan]

@@waltergrace565 Censorship of criminal content and prosecution for whoever is involved in it is absolutely warranted and is already well stipulated in the present legislations. My understanding from the interview with the attorney general of Canada is that he is pursuing tougher sentences for incitement of hatred and genocide. My question here is "what's the point if we already have issues with selective and politicised law enforcement and judiciary that repeatedly disregarded the constitution and the existing jurisprudence and decided to enforce their arbitrary de-facto laws instead "?

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Is not agreeing considered harmful and hateful?

[@joseph-mariopelerin7028]

if you have young kids, move off grid now! this society is sick... no kids should be subject to it...

[@AC-zt2ky]

First question. Not answered. Even the cbc can’t get a straight answer out of this government

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

Lawfare and censorship

[@David-nu6kw]

The attacker is out on bail and the victim in the hospital, and this is what they are worried about?

[@geegeeh.6118]

It’s odd to have an Israeli lobby standing behind this legislation as mentioned at 13:40. This bill is good to take out private content of a person shared online without their consent, but the rest of the stuff there’s already measures available for it.

[@ProteusTG]

Thank God I keep getting killed in War Thunder. I want it stopped.

[@daytonfunk1835]

Nanos will now be charged when they poll and ask. How many Canadians dislike Trudeau?

[@djdoubled6970]

I was assaulted, injured, and hospitalized by Rama Police officer Evan Gorman who was charged for a assaulting a child in 2017. Why will CBC not talk about my story????

[@joehenderson1091]

Can this actually be passed? Is this for real?

[@peloquin5652]

110% 1984 Fascism

[@shrodingerscat4191]

Define 'harmful'

[@JamesBond77]

Anything that hurt Trudeau little feelings.

[@rickquesnel93]

The hurt feelings police coming out

[@mikeschafer8992]

Good Bye Free Speech

[@andrewmarkmusic]

Will this outlaw all forms of Christianity that are critical of Judaism?

[@E_Rex_Sean]

Yes, it’s just blasphemy laws in disguise along with a bunch of LGBT grooming protection laws.

[@sjag5199]

Why is important that minister Arif is muslim?? what is that have to do with the criminal code? Is that why antisemitizam goes unpunished ? What is religion has to do with Canadian government?

[@cash2nrg]

Really... Not a word about human trafficking.... Parents who don't talk to kid's are the real culprit's..... Sounds like another excuse.... The word concierge..😅😅

[@kanento]

We DO NOT need government to control online especially for kids - How about parents just do their jobs. I have taught my kids what NOT to do. Also I block any nasty stuff with filters. Government needs to get the hell away from our freedoms. If you think this is just to "protect" the kids you are crazy this is pure control

[@kanento]

JT is doing this for himself so if you say "bad" things about him he can put the people that hate him in jail.

[@kyleray7039]

"hatred means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike" - this wont be abused at all...

[@itosart]

this is a cover, to have total control over what you think and say

[@miaflorencetaylor269]

It’s really concerning that the minister of Justice is being so ambiguous in his answers. If you’re proposing potential life in imprisonment for an offence, but will not specifically define what would constitute an offence you’re leaving people vulnerable to malicious prosecution.

[@garnermb]

Problem is this is getting taught and forced on kids in schools all over Canada. It’s not just about what’s online!

[@hissingoose]

So much for freedom of expression. Thanks liberals and NDP for crapping on the charter of rights and ‘freedoms’.

[@bramptonjeff81]

More money for bureaucracy

[@dangrather1280]

Justin just can’t stop can he. I guess he was serious when he said the country he admires most is China. So much so he’s actually trying to turn Canada into it.

[@bobthekobb]

I actually like this one sorry haters.

[@chrispaik7343]

How do you draw the line on hate speech? This is a disgusting infringement of Canadians' rights to freedom of speech.

[@goofyal11]

This is a parents responsibility not the GOVERNMENTS

[@robertmoore8602]

They're going to take a long time sifting through all the Canadian metal band and rap group lyrics for this one.

[@lizanderson1669]

ALL these platforms will be dropping Canada

[@RandleTandle]

We're not going to have social media anymore, are we?

[@chrissmith4444]

The private company isn't deciding who sees your stuff or what you see. Their automated algorithm is.

[@ontariofirs7347]

Maxime Bernier 2025!!

[@shrodingerscat4191]

Everyone needs to say NO NO NO NO HELL NO NOPE NADA NO.

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Why aren't the comments turned off?

[@basilcarroll9729]

Perhaps hoping for hateful comments?

[@kevingoodwin5177]

Other news organizations do not turn off comments. Maybe the CBC is finally taking note.

[@googlesucks662]

​@@kevingoodwin5177Lots of msm news organizations don't even allow comments.

[@sylon7717]

Someone needs 20k 😂

[@googlesucks662]

And by news outlets I mean propaganda distributers.

[@junioruncle4378]

Why are some people so protective of abusers and predators freedom of speech? I wonder where their priorities are.

[@praful6890]

This in NOT a "online harms" bill. It is a anti-islamophobia bill. The islamites fully know that Canadians will never accept a bill named Anti-islamophobia bill so the Liberals just renamed it "online harms" bill. The people behind this bill are the MP's who are mecca lovers. They are using our freedom laws against the citizens of Canada. It is telling that it gathered some moss after the mosk shootings in NZ. The house of Commons passed Non-binding motion (M-103) condemning Islamophobia, religious discrimination in 2017. It was a "Motion" and not enforceable. This "onlline harms bill" encompasess the motion and is being dragged into law. It is a Trojan Horse. !!

[@user-ln9ui9yn3j]

How about parents do some parenting? There are tools, if there isn't have some created.

[@oliverstianhugaas7493]

Bro i'd just pull my Website from Canada....

[@lorpis8284]

Please do a real story on this. This effects every political standing in a terrible way.

[@litterbug1483]

False misleading information and cbc knows it