This period is the best either band ever was. Sure Joy Division were great and New Order were also great, but at this point it was truly a melding of both bands. We get two for one. There is equal amounts of Joy Division in this and New Order in this. Two phenomenal bands in one.
@Sunchild7145 жыл бұрын
I thought I read once that the foundations for ICB & Dreams Never End were done as Joy Division. I hate to agree with your statement because I am a true JD devotee, but it is the truth.
@Brewzerr5 жыл бұрын
Well summed, PrincePurple. This does sound very transitional (which to me is a good thing). I’ve always been a much bigger Joy Division fan than a New Order fan (though I have heaps of respect for N.O.), and these recordings tap very satisfyingly into that particular nerve.
@thepaulusmaximus5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I really appreciate New Order when they broke free from the long shadow cast by Joy Division. Most of the early stuff (which I also appreciate), it seems like they still thought of themselves as a mere extension of JD. Also a bit of denial as the first step in the grieving process is evident in the early stuff. When they were fully immersed in the grief, regret and exorcising the ghost of Ian Curtis, they were at their most powerful and moving. In that process, they found their own unique sound imo.
@soulminer4 жыл бұрын
Yeah brother even Bernard has said Movement was the third Joy Division album just that he was singing instead of Ian.
@pressureworks4 жыл бұрын
Most of their output after PC&L has not dated well at all. They still however put on a good live show around 1986 or thereabouts.
@andrewbenson443911 ай бұрын
This sounds amazing just through my phone. So crisp and clear. Beautiful.
@wellenstrom2 жыл бұрын
Simply perfect. The first years after Joy Division were probably the creative peak of the band. Post-punk at its finest.
@davemason37147 жыл бұрын
Remember listening to this late a night when I was younger.. and now I'm doing the same 30 odd yrs later
@rickw.64016 жыл бұрын
made me laugh, did the same, doing the same. not just nostalgia, something else as well, music had a lot of feeling then that somehow seems diferent from the feeling in music now. maybe captivating? and it hasn't let go yet?
@weser19656 жыл бұрын
it let u relax veg and trance out at night think esp with head phones in high school
@Brewzerr5 жыл бұрын
loopy Ruane - There’s still some great and very honest music being made today. It’s just harder to find. You have to really search and unfortunately sift through a lot of horrible dreck to find it. The big difference between then and now, is that back then there was a cohesive movement taking place, full of new and interesting bands. You’d discover one, and it would open the door for 20 more. Today, the bands are more isolated, and fewer and further between... but they are out there. It doesn’t all have to be nostalgia.
@75harg5 жыл бұрын
@@Brewzerr can you mention one band name please?? last band that i found that really showed me a new way of music was arcade fire ,, before that i can mention at least 30 band that was a delight to listen!!
@Brewzerr5 жыл бұрын
Alex rivera - Well, here’s one - Escarlatina Obsessiva. Brazilian band. Still Corners from the UK is another.
@fenham4 жыл бұрын
I play Joy Division all the time. Their music's been a vital oart of my life since the late 70s. I never liked New Order with the same intensity but the album "Movement" is still an emotional joy that their other albums never were for me. Music can be so individual and personal as well as being popular, all encompassing and àppealing to many at the same time ✌️
@richpeacock4 жыл бұрын
I was 15 in 1981 & definitely listened to this as a live broadcast.
@jouisgarage84504 жыл бұрын
This will remain in my memories till the day...
@georgejpg4 жыл бұрын
Dreams Never End hits harder than ever here. Incredible performance
@Nominay3 жыл бұрын
I wish Stephen had sung it instead.
@georgejpg3 жыл бұрын
@@Nominay Are there any videos of him singing it? I think the only time I've seen him sing at all was Ceremony on the Movement box set
@keithh5656 Жыл бұрын
My favorite version of Dreams.... as well!
@tombreen59815 жыл бұрын
This is the best version of "Dreams Never End" I've ever heard. Fantastic stuff.
@piaraskelly1038 Жыл бұрын
Try about 5 months later at Glastonbury
@Blackscorpion19634 жыл бұрын
This was SO far ahead of its time. As I'm a Kiwi (New Zealander) I have never forgotten entering a bit of a gathering of sorts with a few friends at a hockey/football club after match function around when Blue Monday was released in '83. It (Blue Monday) was playing over the stereo and virtually no one was dancing to it as it just totally seemed to blow people's minds. So (again) I danced by myself to it...think I may have been a wee bit high and the experience was unique - as I say I have never forgotten it.
@MrBrindleStyle4 жыл бұрын
It was HUGE in Wellington the tour in 82
@Blackscorpion19634 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrindleStyle Oh wow that's interesting to learn. Where was the gig? Hope you don't mind me browsing your YT & web page and wow awesome art! Will browse your webpage in more detail later. Did you follow Joy Division at all? I love them! They tended to blow a few minds down here in Invercargill during those late 70s & early 80s. A few friends described their music as 'depressing'...so I had to learn them and said 'sorry it's not depressing, rather it's real'...
@tenakura2 жыл бұрын
Gig was at the student union hall up at Vic uni... a good night. The following year (?) The fall played their hex induction tour... two drummers, one of my favorite albums of theirs, that was a party ...
@Blackscorpion19632 жыл бұрын
@@tenakura The Fall...what a loose-as crew. Vocalist/leader Mark E. Smith could sure blow people's minds. Intelligent dude. As I type this I am listening to a song Deer Park [Live, Mainstreet, Auckland, New Zealand, 20 August 1982] part of The Fall's Hex Enduction Hour Tour of NZ. Next song has come up it's called The Classical [Live, Mainstreet, Auckland, New Zealand, 20 August 1982]. I've just imagined combining The Pogues vocalist Shane McGowan, Sex Pistols' Johnny Rotten, Tom Waits, and The Fall's Mark E. Smith singing together a few favorite songs of theirs....could make for some interesting vocals.
@Polacerbic4 жыл бұрын
As usual John Peel captured something as good as any album or better, I like the different instruments on this way more than the orig. vinyl.
@lancerobinson88895 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving these lads and pointing them forward to greatness 😊 what a musical talent Jillian is. Awesome.😊
@lancerobinson88895 ай бұрын
Thanks again Jillian.😊 This is a perfect picture.😊
@paulomonteloyola54045 жыл бұрын
DREAMS NEVER END great version..
@akisasimakopoulos76394 жыл бұрын
4 POWER FULL SONGS!! THE LEGENDARY NEW ORDER!!
@Brewzerr5 жыл бұрын
This is great. Definitely better than later album versions.
@brianlowe176 жыл бұрын
these sessions are so raw...vital...early versions of classic songs..!!!
@chriswareham3 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd heard all JD and NO Peel sessions, buy this one had slipped by me. Great versions of the Movement tracks. Love that album, a brooding, atmospheric masterpiece.
@Hemlock23235 жыл бұрын
I didn't really care for New Order in the mid 80's until I heard their earlier Peel Sessions. I still think this is far superior to their later electro pop.
@NapFloridian4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@sturdeehouse4 жыл бұрын
@@NapFloridian yep me too
@syrinx91965 ай бұрын
Untalented vocals, though. Lyrics are also inferior to what Curtis could write.
@kusonoqui7 жыл бұрын
DREAMS NEVER END!!!!!
@vodaploda7 жыл бұрын
blew me away at the time
@philmalley78883 жыл бұрын
A lovely surprise that they moved on into a new line up and began to record again. That 40 year old photo of Stephen and Gillian looking fresh faced and happy looking at the camera and even Peter Hook seemed well.
@GT380man Жыл бұрын
I’ve not researched it, but is there a fair bit of influence from Krautrock, Kraftwerk, Neu! in their overall sound? Wouldn’t have been well-known in U.K. at the time. I certainly wasn’t aware of how influential German industrial music was to the U.K. scene for some emerging artists in the 70s. (Now, in my 60s, I see how loved Kraftwerk is. I was so sad to hear of Florian Schneider’s death in, I think, 2021? I recall I had a long drive scheduled & just set the iPod to play everything I had by Kraftwerk. Memorable. So many brilliant bands, JD & NO included).
@piaraskelly1038 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Kraftwerk, Neu! etc. massive influence on JD NO
@howardgeary4453 ай бұрын
Ian Curtis intoduced them to kraftwerk,i think they modelled themselves sartorially on them to for a while
@andrewhounsome5969 Жыл бұрын
Marvelous. ICB is just terrific here.
@johnnydiamondsmusic16734 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved Joy Division and New Order. I was into them from 82 onwards. Some of my music is influenced by them.
@baraksteady13416 жыл бұрын
Wow, one of these days, when I'm done with pleasant surprises, I'm just going to have to look up the entire J Peel catalogue.
@will-love-lvx11 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I'm doing right now! 😅
@radialaxis6 жыл бұрын
Love the jam they get into on this version of ICB.
@gabriellla3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for uploading this!
@domskilamonski8616 жыл бұрын
This is priceless.....what joy divisions next step would've been,that said..i currently regard N.O's sesh. over J.D's peel-sesh....and i will kill for jd,most inflentual music evaaaaaaaaa....!
@georgep.burdell72374 жыл бұрын
Bought this cassette in '90. All 4 tracks on both sides. ~$7 well spent.
@ianc10013 жыл бұрын
Yep. Listened in awe all those years ago.
@marcmistermarc5 жыл бұрын
This is first time I had ever heard NO. A friends older brother had a Bootleg 7” EP of this peel session. I heard some of the vinyl bootlegs of New Order from the first few years was actually done on the sly by Rob as way of getting cash for the band. I don’t know how true that is. Anyway I got to see them at Deeside Futurama in September 1982. Blew my mind... they had a few songs from PCL by then.
@kevbhoy056 жыл бұрын
hooky dreams never end .magic
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@azmountaineer46304 жыл бұрын
Senses, best song by these guys ...
@antoniomarcelo902310 ай бұрын
Clássico do passado curto muito quando estou encima da minha moto 🕺🕺🕺🕺🏍️🏍️ Marcelo moto boy solitário de Guarulhos sp Brazil 11/12/23
@zsk477 жыл бұрын
new wave forever!!!!!!
@lukaszgrajny9 жыл бұрын
fucking amazing hauting...
@charlie891 Жыл бұрын
this sounds so much like joy division its like hearing if they ever got to make a third album. its deliciously painful
@MultiGermer6 ай бұрын
fuck i love it has loved it for 40 year's good old 80'er
@stojkovicigor4 жыл бұрын
Aaa what a music !!!
@iloveNathalie19 жыл бұрын
Remember recording this. Thought it was far superior to the eventual album versions.
@AlcholicAlligators9 жыл бұрын
+David Morgan Agreed, you can actually hear Peter Hook singing on Dreams Never End for once.
@JeruszOgorki9 жыл бұрын
+David Morgan I remember buying the cassette which only contained four tracks and being blown away by it. Now, over 30 years later I find there was actually more! Great surprise and yes, agreed, better than album versions.
@NickandSilkeCreate9 жыл бұрын
+ogorki , Ditto.
@MURUR10258 жыл бұрын
+David Morgan Wow - I agree. Thanks for mentioning that. This is stellar.
@youtubecryptochartvision7 жыл бұрын
cool
@ericonunesferreira37288 жыл бұрын
Ian Curtis in memory
@abrahamgueret30148 жыл бұрын
+Érico Nunes Ferreira 'A'"'IC repellant'R ?C lui à droite de la fhot'rop' dextrose sinistrose dentist'er syrRrruip' '' " ' . ; ! ih
@brandocervera38544 жыл бұрын
the post punk poet, rip
@softlightsymphonyband7 жыл бұрын
Mesmerizing...
@lancerobinson88895 ай бұрын
Just dealing with hooky and Bernie would have been crazy. Thanks Jillian 😊
@kevinmost27195 жыл бұрын
I like this stuff,because it sounds like New Order and Joy Division rolled into one
@marguskiis77113 жыл бұрын
No, it sounds like some 90s art school band
@fulcrumspigot4556 жыл бұрын
Great quality, thanks.
@andywhitwell27194 жыл бұрын
I saw their first tour in Brighton so good!
@peterkunstmannАй бұрын
❤
@iliasgkalgkanopoulos83974 жыл бұрын
Movevent was their best album. ICB. Dreams never end. Before they get too mainstream
@bpmrox4 жыл бұрын
pretty dark time - I think it took Blue Monday to get over Ian. If one could ever do that.
@syrinx91965 ай бұрын
It sounds more like they're going through the motions to me. This isn't Closer, that's for sure.
@Suzette0071 Жыл бұрын
Inspiring
@Senator1074 жыл бұрын
Nice photo. Seems it might be very representative of the band.
@mabelgonzalez41649 жыл бұрын
TREASURE…!!!
@johnniejukebox3 жыл бұрын
DEEP.
@Theofish8 жыл бұрын
mega !
@HiVizCamo6 жыл бұрын
I remember Brent Bambury played this for me.
@KirillySpace4 жыл бұрын
I.C.B so beautiful :D
@d_b21914 жыл бұрын
🖤
@MarioGomez-nd2mx7 ай бұрын
👌☺️😁
@stevengassen5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they're using the very first Boss Dr. Rhythm drum machine
@RobinParmar Жыл бұрын
Yes they are. It's on the album versions too.
@SpUdMaNpLoVeR2 жыл бұрын
😊😊😊😊
@ligeirinho3.0285 жыл бұрын
Poucos dias antes de eu nascer. Next my born.
@JP-monkeybot5 жыл бұрын
Much better than the poppy shite they did later on.
@Brewzerr5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have a ton of respect for their decision to move forward and find their own sound that would distinguish them from Ian’s influence, but the fact is that the darker, moodier atmosphere lends a depth to the music that was sorely missed in later years. In other words, this is simply better. Much better.
@marcmistermarc5 жыл бұрын
Brewzerr much much much better
@tbwatch885 жыл бұрын
negative.
@georgejpg4 жыл бұрын
Wrong lmao
@marleypumpkin49173 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you heard their most recent Be A Rebel single - it sounds like Robbie Williams done by Stock Aitken & Waterman. Complete shite.
@darylcumming71194 жыл бұрын
The eighties.
@lotusblak8 жыл бұрын
Soooo FUCKING good!!!!!!!
@pablinksksks8 жыл бұрын
wooah
@ארנודגן5 ай бұрын
Mater piece
@NickandSilkeCreate Жыл бұрын
January 26th, 2023 - Still sounds edgy and interesting. Find something else from 1981 that can still hold its own, then we'll have a conversation. 😉
@gazlee32085 жыл бұрын
Joy division would've become new order with or without Ian, in the 80's bands either changed with the times or disappeared.
@Blackscorpion19634 жыл бұрын
Gaz Lee - Hadn't thought about that 1 and you are spot on bro. Excellent intelligent comment.
@Spectrescup3 жыл бұрын
the fall, for one, didn't change
@timneave32402 жыл бұрын
@@Spectrescup They bloomin' well did. Quite drastically at times. Remained very much The Fall with each shift however.
@yanshane Жыл бұрын
They would have still been called Joy Division though. But the music would have sounded more like New Order. But it's all moot
@paullaw3382 Жыл бұрын
Why is it when there's lists of great musicians Top 50 / 100 ect Stephen Morris is never mentioned at all.
@pressureworks3 жыл бұрын
Hookeeeeeeey !!
@Polacerbic4 жыл бұрын
I bought Movement after hearing "Everything's Gone Green" and it was disappointing..slow..moody..downbeat..gloomy..still a good listen! New Order released their best songs on E.P.
@whytegroovin2 жыл бұрын
that's much obvious here , martin hannet really leads them , into electronic music !!!
@DavidMartinez-vf1sn6 жыл бұрын
Did they use a Boss DR-55 on Truth? The snare and hi hats sound so familiar
@fulcrumspigot4556 жыл бұрын
Yes. This was the first pattern I put in when I bought one.
@DavidMartinez-vf1sn6 жыл бұрын
Fulcrum Spigot Sweet
@midwichyouthclub5 жыл бұрын
The greatest session The Cure never recorded.
@tbwatch883 жыл бұрын
youch. love, fan of both.
@marguskiis77113 жыл бұрын
Strange returning from major established infamous charting band to little experimental art school unit.
@timneave32402 жыл бұрын
Joy Division were not by any means a large band by the time Ian died. They only charted with LWTUA after his death.
@marguskiis77112 жыл бұрын
@@timneave3240 JD sounds large and was massively influential cult band. Dozens of bands listened them and took the same vein. Early NO was very experimental but awkward group with JD fame and found its own path some years later.
@timneave32402 жыл бұрын
@@marguskiis7711 Indeed, but they were neither major nor established when they ended. That came later.
@hudson7077 жыл бұрын
Wow is that Peter Hook singing Senses?
@antoniogramsci82176 жыл бұрын
Mitch Ritter No, but he does in Dreams never end
@americotomaz75137 жыл бұрын
THE BEST
@rooman662 жыл бұрын
GAME CHANGER!!!!! but WRONG pic for this session me thinks :)
@ajs415 жыл бұрын
Did they ever do Blue Monday during a Peel session?
@colonialwaster69785 жыл бұрын
No
@cresshead4 жыл бұрын
@@colonialwaster6978 but they did bbc rock around the clock with blue monday!
@alanferdman95165 жыл бұрын
Ian Curtis is very missed at this point of time. The band is just foundering around. Although Dreams Never End is a sure hit. Later they will move on to a new sound.
@pault.mccarthy62686 жыл бұрын
Lovely and gloomy
@VHOS-db1td4 жыл бұрын
❤️80ies❤️N.O.🇬🇷👍🇹🇷👎
@ericcrawford98274 жыл бұрын
Very busy high hat.
@CIMAmotor3 жыл бұрын
Shades of the Who in some of this.
@peregrinemccauley78194 жыл бұрын
Now you're talking .
@klausrain1115 жыл бұрын
Huh? Who is singing? Sounds more like Ian Curtis than Bernard Sumner.
@MD-ru5vs3 жыл бұрын
yes a very interesting question......I was thinking the same as you instantly when I heard the singing.
@syrinx91965 ай бұрын
Ian Curtis imitation. Not so convincing.
@lionelbeaulaton76102 жыл бұрын
top l après joy division
@jonathansutcliffe34017 жыл бұрын
who dat in background????
@JsRf135 жыл бұрын
okay but Peter Hook was kinda hot in the 80s? or am i the only one...
@ascho10005 жыл бұрын
Back in the early '80s, when I was a young teenager, I thought Hooky looked "old" and "parental"(probably because of the beard). But, now that I'm in my late forties.......I look at images of Hooky back then and think, "Wow!! He was so good looking!!"
@MD-ru5vs3 жыл бұрын
Listen to Peter Hook and the Light what he is recording now it is perfect
@robinlee19728 жыл бұрын
Sinister Mathews.
@abrahamgueret30148 жыл бұрын
+Robin Nettleton LAMF Fn'UK'e the worl'$d U$$$A pleaszhe helpeu Tz'r Vladimir Poutine meilleur que çeulàTM'cking awhol' worldחי חי חי עם ישראל חי עב
@ignacioponce14854 жыл бұрын
Luca, Sumo el rock nacional. pfff
@jayarava5 жыл бұрын
WTF happened to this band?
@thomaskenneally2193 жыл бұрын
Many books have been written...
@stevenweasel2678 Жыл бұрын
AS MUCH AS THIS WAS GTOOD / I STILL LIKED MY EARLIER BANDS/ SKIDS/ CLASH/ / RUTS / UK SUBS / DAMNED S L F/ BUZZCOCKS Etc
@stevenweasel2678 Жыл бұрын
DEPARTMENT S / IS VIC THERE
@submissivelover Жыл бұрын
I'll say it, New Order were better than Joy Division.