New Orleans Saints Already Concerned Around Upcoming Head Coaching Search

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@kim100364
@kim100364 17 күн бұрын
Mickey Loomis & the Saints nepotism is the main problem. Hard to imagine how they get out of the whole they’ve dug for us.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
As long as we get a new GM before the draft things will be looking up
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
Why in the hell we should trust Mickey Loomis to hire anybody ask yourself that question😂
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
I guess because he got Sean Payton and Drew Brees 19 years ago 😂.
@arkange6699
@arkange6699 17 күн бұрын
If Mickey pics the wrong coach,then us fans will be suffering for at least 3 more years and negativity will build up again,solution to hold Mickey account able now and get someone new with fresh ideas
@mrmonty86
@mrmonty86 17 күн бұрын
Running it back is all they know.
@lhjohns
@lhjohns 16 күн бұрын
Thank you…say it again 🙄
@princekubakuba9682
@princekubakuba9682 16 күн бұрын
Picks*
@will3pr
@will3pr 16 күн бұрын
Gayle has said she isn’t too happy with Mickeys decisions so she might step in this offseason, or give Mickey one more year and once that goes to shit like we know it will. She’ll fire him. All in all, I firmly believe that we won’t being a good team until Gayle herself sells the team.
@teehort
@teehort 15 күн бұрын
​@@will3prI wish that was true but when you hear Ross talking about what Mickey wants that don't sound like she really means it.I don't see how his job safe but I get it it's a buddy buddy system since Mr.Tom B went to heaven.I don't see us having to much success under this man he needs to be the VP only if he wants to be a Saint but at this point it is what it is.Us season ticket holders don't know what we talking about our opinion doesn't matter from what this guy Mickey says.He act like he owns the Saints.I wish ole Rita would of stayed in good graces with Mr.B cause she would of been got us back on track...
@brentpeltier4879
@brentpeltier4879 17 күн бұрын
Gotta rebuild the trenches this offseason,but I’d like to see us pick up some play makers in the draft!!!
@ryanmack546
@ryanmack546 17 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t he already be on the hot seat Ross? He did hire Dennis A and didn’t have the balls to fire him because he’s ass. Ms Benson had to fire him shouldn’t that say something?
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
Mickey’s seat should be lava already He still thinks DA is a great HC
@wolfbisbing486
@wolfbisbing486 17 күн бұрын
That’s my thoughts as well. He hired Allen but refused to fire him. Mrs. Benson had to fire him herself which just because he defied her he should have been fired as well. Then when he said in an interview that he didn’t think Allen should have been fired because he’s still a very good coach to me was Mickey trying to embarrass Mrs. Benson. It actually made him look even stupider because everyone knows Dennis Allen never was and never will be even a decent HC.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
@@wolfbisbing486 Mother Of All Truthbombs right here
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
BuT He HiReD SeAn PaYtOn SiGnEd DrEw BreEs - James Skremmeta
@paulparker535
@paulparker535 17 күн бұрын
it does'nt matter who the coach is if you keep drafting players that are Bust's & paying players that are past the're prime.....
@VirgilBoyd-t1g
@VirgilBoyd-t1g 17 күн бұрын
I want to agree with you, but reading that raised a HUGE red flag. Mickie Loomis is entirely too comfortable here. This is not what you want as a franchise. People get fired very quickly in the NFL. Maybe too quickly, but there is a flip side to that coin. You cannot allow a GM to be this comfortable with this many failures. Also, It's looking more and more like it was Sean Payton having the success, while Loomis went for the ride. The Saints organization is entirely too close.
@IGotTheNewness
@IGotTheNewness 16 күн бұрын
Right! A win today and he has the Broncos in the playoffs with a ROOKIE QB! Loomis is a product of Sean and Drew, not the other way around.
@Just_King_4ever
@Just_King_4ever 16 күн бұрын
Bullseye 🎯
@thetruthisthis1301
@thetruthisthis1301 17 күн бұрын
Again, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S HEAD COACH AS LONG AS THE SAINTS HAVE A "MICKEY" ON THEM" THEY CAN'T WIN. Get it!?
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
Bingo. No point in talking about the draft, off-season, coaching hires, free agents. As long as Loomis in charge we’re in purgatory.
@thetruthisthis1301
@thetruthisthis1301 16 күн бұрын
@davidalexander3724 It's Gayle's fault Saints fans.
@carllaborde8204
@carllaborde8204 17 күн бұрын
So, are you saying that Aaron Glenn become a puppet for Micky Loomis just to be a HC ? That's sad.
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
Sean Payton was not a puppet. The only Coach he made a mistake on was allen
@carllaborde8204
@carllaborde8204 17 күн бұрын
@Redboy533 No one said that Payton was a puppet. Listen to the YT video. The guy in the video is saying that by Loomis hiring Glenn, it would allow him to keep most if not all assistant coaches in place. If a head coach isn't allowed to hire his own people, what does that make him ? A damn puppet.
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 16 күн бұрын
@ speculation, you can’t assume what Mickey is going to do.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@carllaborde8204
@carllaborde8204 16 күн бұрын
You are speaking of Ross Jackson in your assumption comment right ? As a reminder, Sean Payton didn't hire Dennis Allen as head coach, Loomis did.
@nickmorphis5411
@nickmorphis5411 17 күн бұрын
I just want to say that Mickey Loomis, Dennis Allen, and Jeff Ireland ought to be proud and thank God everyday for their involvement in the drafting and development of Trey Hendrickson, helping turn him into the true defensive force that he is in the NFL, only to kick him to the curb and give him more motivation to excel. Yes it's not like his short arms and lack of flex in the hips, or lack of speed didn't give him enough fuel for the fire.😮😂😂
@wolfbisbing486
@wolfbisbing486 17 күн бұрын
I guess that toilet incident was a precursor to what would happen for Rizzi. Great guy but I don’t think Rizzi is ready to be a HC quite yet.
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
Mickey needs to be fired he don't need to be picking no coach😂
@djmenez10
@djmenez10 16 күн бұрын
Watching the last game... its time to start over.
@rorycarmouche9010
@rorycarmouche9010 17 күн бұрын
People are assuming that these hot new coaches will even want to come to NOLA. It's a mess right now! There's six other HC positions available and all of them are in better situations than the Saints. That's just the reality!
@GrapeRuthless1818
@GrapeRuthless1818 17 күн бұрын
Someone needs to throw Mickey some boxing gloves and let all us fans get a sparring sesh in he’s really start to make me mad!
@KelvinGreen-q4b
@KelvinGreen-q4b 17 күн бұрын
Replace the medical staff.
@nickmorphis5411
@nickmorphis5411 17 күн бұрын
Yes absolutely replace the medical staff use the pelicans physical therapist from last year. Oh wait, I think the Pels and Saints must have shared medical staff because suddenly they both developed more hamstrings to more players in one year than I have ever seen. They must be sharing trainers/therapists/med staff because they were all just looking for excuses not to play while waiting for their coaches to be fired this wasted season.
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
People need to stop disrespecting Aaron Glenn like he’s a puppet for anybody. He also will be New Orleans Saints first black coach in New Orleans history.
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 17 күн бұрын
Aaron Glenn? Noooo
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
Man we ain't trying to hear that bull crap clean house everybody go😂
@timothyruss6996
@timothyruss6996 17 күн бұрын
My mom-n-nem is doing great. Thanks for asking😄
@Just_King_4ever
@Just_King_4ever 16 күн бұрын
Man #WhoDatNation is cookin' in these comments and I love every bit of it! I agree with every comment in here. Fans want more and deserve better! #Saint4Life #LeggoNO
@GhostfaceGriller-hd7jw
@GhostfaceGriller-hd7jw 17 күн бұрын
Mickey Loomis salting his clam chowder with fentynal 🫨
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
I told you all this about Dennis Allen and y'all still didn't want to listen to me😂
@dlp2600
@dlp2600 16 күн бұрын
If Loomis is gonna start off the hiring process by saying Aaron Glenn is leading candidate this already starting off on the wrong track. This exactly what happened when he hired DA he knew that he was gonna hire him but he just went along with the NFL protocol and look how that turned out. His decisions have been horrible now this is just another example of tunnel vision. The fact he is floating it out there to media tells you his continues to bomb as GM just needs leave the room already!
@kennethmitchell9779
@kennethmitchell9779 16 күн бұрын
Sorry Ross but i Politely Disagree with you on the Mickey Loomis assessment. The Proof is in the Pudding. If this is how the Coaching Search gonna go. Then he needs to go. ASAP!
@WHODATRECORDS
@WHODATRECORDS 17 күн бұрын
Nice winter beard
@lamarhood1188
@lamarhood1188 16 күн бұрын
We’d better figure something out, because Bryce and Penix put the NFC South on notice….they gon be something to reckon with.
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
Hell no you don't want Mickey Loomis to pick no head coach or nothing you don't want me to lose nowhere around no head coach😂
@garyv2196
@garyv2196 17 күн бұрын
NOT GLENN
@will3pr
@will3pr 16 күн бұрын
I had a dream years ago that Drew Brees was our new General Manager after Loomis. I’m not saying it’s gonna happen… I’m just saying Gayle has an opportunity of doing something really cool here. Assuming Drew even wants it.
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
Why people dislike Aaron Glenn? He left New Orleans and went to an organization that was not known for winning with Dan Campbell, and had success Mickey made one mistake with Dennis Allen he did not make a mistake with Sean Payton
@DaBayouBoy777
@DaBayouBoy777 17 күн бұрын
Glenn isn’t the answer
@pierrep262
@pierrep262 17 күн бұрын
Mickey rolling his sleeves up to dig us a deeper grave
@vetointhehouse
@vetointhehouse 16 күн бұрын
Mickey bout to hire Allen Dennis to be the “NEW” coach lol
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 17 күн бұрын
Kubiak is not a good OC
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE 17 күн бұрын
It’s hard to really get a read on him because of all the injuries
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 17 күн бұрын
Have no plays, doesn’t adjust good & don’t know how to use the players with their talent.
@aintthatnatemedia
@aintthatnatemedia 17 күн бұрын
@@DoubleKAlldaywhat players with talent (besides Kamara) has he had all year
@DoubleKAllday
@DoubleKAllday 17 күн бұрын
@@aintthatnatemedia Homie instead of trynna correct me take context out of my statement. Since the beginning he hasn’t been good at putting players in a position to make an effect, stop making excuses for him.
@jermainescott3506
@jermainescott3506 16 күн бұрын
Clearly Ross is working for the Saints or loomis with this take… Loomis is setting up the next coaches to get fired. Loomis been the problem, we always over the cap and never winning because it.
@SaintGregTravel
@SaintGregTravel 15 күн бұрын
Loomis shouldn’t be picking the assistant coaches.
@daharris41
@daharris41 16 күн бұрын
Brian Flores is the best choice. Eric B if you want to go offensively
@neugey
@neugey 17 күн бұрын
Even if you put aside all the reporting and sources on the coaching search, Mickey is asleep at the wheel. He doesn't even make the no-brainer moves like putting Olave and Carr on season-ending IR.
@JessyWilliamson
@JessyWilliamson 17 күн бұрын
Fire Loomis, hire Vrabel and find a young GM.
@gregragincajun7968
@gregragincajun7968 17 күн бұрын
100% AGREE
@larryconnerjr1835
@larryconnerjr1835 16 күн бұрын
The saints situation with Loomis reminds me of the panthers with their owner or the Jets owner, definitely a nightmare scenario, but Loomis is a figurehead, Jeff Ireland is more responsible for who the team drafts every year and Loomis probably is more responsible for paying these useless aging players Like Cam Jordan etc .
@UncDroop
@UncDroop 17 күн бұрын
I'll be at the game! I want a win to end the season strong, send Rizzi out with a win and send the Bucs to the lockers crying!
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
And the Falcons to the playoffs can’t even win right 😂
@williamhenderson1692
@williamhenderson1692 16 күн бұрын
Mickey worked well with SP, but sean is now a bronco, hello? i'd like to see ownership "cast a wide net."
@damiensorapuru6921
@damiensorapuru6921 17 күн бұрын
Not impressed with Kubiak & dont think he should be untouchable as far as 25 is concerned. I understand injuries and such for this year but he’s been very good with his first 15 play calls each game but he struggles greatly after the defense adjusts
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
Whoever we get, nobody will be satisfied. I believe Mickey is not the guy that he used to be but he did help. New Orleans win a Super Bowl championship. He is the guy who hired Sean Payton. He made a mistake with Dennis.
@troublemethis17
@troublemethis17 16 күн бұрын
saints moved up at least one spot. awaiting charger v raiders. depending on how the draft goes, that could be significant. it could be the difference btw picking a stud at his position or just the best player at a position of need this year. going up to 8th nearly guarantees the former, while 9th means we're hoping someone ahead of us does something stupid beyond picking those 2 subpar QBs.
@jaimemarroquin9458
@jaimemarroquin9458 17 күн бұрын
My friend, my fellow who that nation, how do you have a general manager that is loose seven gains before the owner says you have to fire the coach that’s what’s he is supposed to do ! He’s riding in the gravy train nor Peyton no Breeze no winning with him, he has taken advantage of the Saints organization, and the fans ,remember we are investors in the products we buy for our team in the hopes that we can go everywhere and anywhere and say we are winners not the losers that we have become this man has to go don’t feed into the BS that he’s in the best interest of us just because he made a couple of games win with Rizzy and if you think that, get off the planet because you’re not with what’s going on. Mickey Loomis has to go let’s get someone that is concerned about fans and the team because obviously he’s not Jaime telling you like is from her and Fan out in Florida they can’t go out nowhere and show his fellas for MY WHO DAT TEAM & BROTHERS & SISTERS‼️‼️‼️‼️⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ GAYLE BENSON HOPEFULLY SHE GETS IT‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@user-hp5lw7ln3k
@user-hp5lw7ln3k 16 күн бұрын
Loomis is the reason everything has gone wrong with the Saints. The buck stops with him.😅
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE 17 күн бұрын
I heared there also interested in Matt Nagy I don’t hate it but I also don’t love it I mean he did have that 12-4 season I. 2018 but after that it was back to back 8-8 seasons and then 6-11 I just want a fresh coach preferably a young offensive coordinator a first time Head Coach I’m not all excited about Aaron Glenn Either I’d like to get away from the Sean Payton regime but who dat nation look at it like this we can’t get anyone worse then DA and also remember we are gonna have to be patient for a few seasons I mean look what he’s coming into a mess if they had gotten the right coach last time all a smart coach had to do was ride on Sean Payton’s coat tails maybe a change here or there but not much like DA should have saved all that money started Jamie’s a few seasons until they got there guy he was a way cheaper option u could have fixed the cap and he was already 3 years comfortable in the organization he loved the team and the team and fans loved him we gave up on Jameis way to soon we thought we were a QB away but look we were wrong let’s learn from our past mistakes and not do that again let’s completely shift gears and get an Offensive coach in here that’s what the saints were built for and for god sakes we need to implement a new yoga or stretching program 😂 I don’t care what they do but they got to make some type of change to stop all these injuries I mean it’s the nfl i expect injuries but damn dude this was the worst season we had a first time 5 rnd rookie QB passing too a bunch of 4 and 5 stringers out there and people say he’s trash smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ 😂 it amazes me how much people don’t know about football
@Tramall_Mally_Mal
@Tramall_Mally_Mal 17 күн бұрын
im very concerned with Mickey making the head coach search. He is lazy and will do no research on a coach.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
It will be as successful as his draft trading
@Tramall_Mally_Mal
@Tramall_Mally_Mal 17 күн бұрын
@geoffhoutman1557 which is bad
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
@@Tramall_Mally_Mal in 11 years he lost 6000 draft points in value, worst by far. That's two #1 overall picks worth. Hes a further 6000 points below the best GM. That's four #1 overall picks
@charlesjonesjr.864
@charlesjonesjr.864 16 күн бұрын
You shouldn't hire a head coach if you're going to tell him who you want on his staff. That never really works out. But that sounds like some Mickey Mouse moves.
@Smoovg-yj2op
@Smoovg-yj2op 17 күн бұрын
Can we please stop with this jon Gruden nonsense -there's a legitimate reason he's not coaching -we don't need racist culture in the building.let an up and coming young coach have a chance .
@jermainescott3506
@jermainescott3506 16 күн бұрын
No sir ross… loomis is not going to be the scapegoat. That’s why he was ppl to stay so they can be… everyone with eyes can see Kubiak is predictable trash but 2 years Down the line he will fire Kubiak a year after that the first time head coach who has to deal with this dumpster fire. Loomis playing chess
@joem130
@joem130 17 күн бұрын
I don't want Mickey Loomis anywhere near a rebuild. Gale Benson please, please , please get rid of that dude!
@usaintwinnin7312
@usaintwinnin7312 17 күн бұрын
Had mediocre expectations when we got Carr, after first 2 games had high expectations, after next 7 was already looking to offseason.
@jasonclaborn6171
@jasonclaborn6171 16 күн бұрын
Well why not hire lint kubiak as head coach if you want to keep him? Hiring Aron Glenn to see if Klint Kubiak is legitimate is brutal.
@rex2837
@rex2837 17 күн бұрын
ML needs to hire an Alpha coach, so he can drift out of the burning spotlight
@teehort
@teehort 15 күн бұрын
That's why we will be just ok until either Gayle sale the Saints or she gives a outsider control.Here we talking about what Mickey Loomis wants to do when he should be out.I honestly think Sean got tired of Mickey having so much say so when he really should just be whatever title he haves VP....We have missed so many times in draft year after year and this guy gets to say who he wants to keep yeah ok..See how this plays out us season ticket holders don't matter to him from his comments but I guarantee you the way we going we are going to be back to the Mike Ditka days or when Haslett lost the team in the 2000s...
@Mike_Nola
@Mike_Nola 17 күн бұрын
If the saints want to help this community heal... then they will screw the falcons with a glorious loss 😅😅😅
@ericsipe8619
@ericsipe8619 16 күн бұрын
“Fans” thought (and some still do) that Rattler would be a better option than Carr at the beginning of the season. Lol. Who cares?
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
And I'm telling you I think Aaron Glenn is a bad hire and if Mickey Loomis be that stupid and higher Aaron Glenn I guarantee we going to have another losing season under Mickey Loomis😂
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
What makes Aaron Glenn a bad hire?
@bobbymalachias7208
@bobbymalachias7208 17 күн бұрын
Why would you waste another 3-5 years with ML? He's already been evaluated for the last 3 years, and let's be honest, it hasn't been good, and it's just getting worse. There is no one to hold ML accountable. If Tom Benson were alive, I think dramatic changes would have been made already
@JamesConnorr
@JamesConnorr 17 күн бұрын
If we hire Matt Nagy I will be immensely disappointed.
@ryanmack546
@ryanmack546 17 күн бұрын
Man when I saw that this morning I was like wtf please noooo
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE
@ACAMPS.HITHOUSE 17 күн бұрын
@@ryanmack546yea he only had that one good season 12-4 but after that it was all mediocre I just think we need to try out a fresh first time head coach OC preferably the NFL teams that have been dominating over the past decade are all offensive minded including us with Sean P
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
Aaron Glenn would be the perfect choice
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
Loomis could keep Klint Karmichael?
@Drip2SG
@Drip2SG 17 күн бұрын
Yup! Because he doesn’t want to do the work. He’s lazy
@kevinn4038
@kevinn4038 16 күн бұрын
Loomis needs to go. About 7 years ago.
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
All the teams you name it don't have nothing to do with the New Orleans saints organization the saints is the worst team in the NFL right now😂
@roeshawn77
@roeshawn77 12 күн бұрын
Fire him ….. His time up …We need a change….
@user-dq8in9gd3h
@user-dq8in9gd3h 17 күн бұрын
I made it
@VictorNewmen-ow2hx
@VictorNewmen-ow2hx 14 күн бұрын
When is MICKEY MOUSE gone goodness
@anthonyriley6123
@anthonyriley6123 17 күн бұрын
Ralph Jackson who is paying you is you getting paid by the saints organization brother could you you be talking and it don't even be making no sense😂
@Spartcus-r2q
@Spartcus-r2q 17 күн бұрын
Aaron Glenn would be a disaster. Soft drafting, soft DBs. His defenses gives up major chunk plays always . Yeah they have good moments , few and far between Just soft overall, this guy's defenses are atrocious, horrible, and soft . As much as I dislike Vrabel, I'll take Vrabel over Glenn soft defenses any day Detroit will not advance far in playoffs due to this Coach's Aaron Glenn atrocious defenses
@Redboy533
@Redboy533 17 күн бұрын
How would he be a disaster? He never was a head coach what have you believed that he would be a disaster? He left New Orleans to coach a bad franchise and they are successful with Dan Campbell. Why does he deserve an opportunity?
@Da-Boo33
@Da-Boo33 17 күн бұрын
Get Aaron green and let the Mannings take over Ms Benson n Loomis please ...we are not Cleveland and sum other cities we need growth 🤔 evolve new Orleans saints
@brockpace8996
@brockpace8996 17 күн бұрын
I’m no longer a saints fan , Vikings fan now after 18 years of being a saints fan .. the office and management aren’t it and benson needs to either go or do something about it.
@JamesConnorr
@JamesConnorr 17 күн бұрын
Hell nah 😂 how you gonna be a Vikings fan man
@brockpace8996
@brockpace8996 17 күн бұрын
@ this team is more unbearable than the mini miracle that’s how
@ryanmack546
@ryanmack546 17 күн бұрын
Bro you tripping at least pick an afc team we gonna be ass for a while but I still bleed black and gold WHODAT
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 17 күн бұрын
I was unaware that changing teams was an option. In the civilised world that is not allowed
@brockpace8996
@brockpace8996 17 күн бұрын
@@ryanmack546 hell naw I’m done bleeding black and gold , not even fun watching them anymore , the players on the team not even having fun no more
@titodalporto1527
@titodalporto1527 17 күн бұрын
Gruden all you need. He’s got the goods!
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
Gruden makes sense to me, but he’ll probably be hired by another team or not hired at all. With Gruden you get an offensive HC AND culture builder…
@daharris41
@daharris41 16 күн бұрын
No we’re not trying to be the Raiders again. We tried that with Dennis Allen
@davidalexander3724
@davidalexander3724 16 күн бұрын
@@daharris41 Jon Gruden has a positive winning percentage in his career, even with the Raiders. Dense Allen well…. But I’m sure Aaron Glenn would be Much better 😂
@jsam7455
@jsam7455 17 күн бұрын
Tillman buys the team and get rid of this dude.
@titodalporto1527
@titodalporto1527 17 күн бұрын
Jon is perfect for the Saints. He always promotes the play of Carr. Carr and Gruden have more time and experience to produce a winning year next season. By all means hire Gruden it’s a true winning combination,
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