NEW PATCH, NEW DOUBLE IRON MODIFIER, AND YOUR SUGGESTIONS ONLY in DOME KEEPER

[@wilshireanasurimbor3068]

I really, really expected "lets take commenter's suggestions" to go really poorly lol. Now we'll be insufferable!

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

As if we weren't before

[@ChristopherOdd]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real

[@SaturnusDK]

Resource converter just got OP in the extreme for reverse conversions, ie. from iron to cobalt/water.

[@ChristopherOdd]

yaaaa boi

[@psycatnip]

Watching this run it looks like drillbert and lift are pretty ultimate synergy.

[@realpoisson1136]

at home on parental leave with three under three, these videos are my chill sauce right now. Keep it up Chris!

[@ChristopherOdd]

Enjoy brother.

[@twilightgardenspresentatio6384]

I know the feeling bruh

[@neoteraflare]

For drillbert the treat and turning back is really great. Treat is almost available every wave and makes him more faster. And with turning back you can dig down on the weakest part of a row not just at the end of the row thus you can spare your drill upgrade.

[@pbsixgun6]

Not to mention not having to go all the way to the wall to wake him up...that's a huge time waste if he hasn't found anything of note yet.

[@Lowkeh]

You could indeed hit those "Driller" enemies with the sword swing once they'd attach. You were just a smidge too early when you posed the question and tried; swung past it a few milliseconds before it had made contact with the dome.

[@Ironica82]

16:30 - The timing probably feels fast due to the past run (or two) having long cycle on it.

[@DrThunder2004]

plus the long delay with the overcharge/condenser.

[@UndeadDragonWarrior]

not sure how many people mention this, but you can "push" ores by dragging the back ones, so it scoops up the front ores along a flat surface. Fast way I found to get more ores than my load upgrade can take, unless they patched that.

[@tomblack6965]

Those giant land creatures that drill into the dome look like they are playing the bagpipes 🤣

[@flyindanskmen7317]

Anecdotally, it always feels like when I unlock a second tier item (usually drill) that the next wave is harder. It's worth tracking imo.

[@yeti1315]

My two cents on the 2 tile method not being optimal. So basically if you have to constantly turn at right angles to get to point a to b on a triangle, if you have to run 10 down and 10 left you have to run 20 tiles. However if you have a direct path you only need to move 10 root 2 or about 14 units (basic geometry). This does not even consider the fact when you are carrying resources movement speed is faster and smoother. So based upon this I think considering that mining out a block or two (or even just hitting blocks as you go down that are on your sides so it doesn’t slow you down much) might be an investment for a more direct path in the future for transferring materials and getting paths to your resources. So the “optimal” digging path may eventually look like triangle with the dome being the tip. So to clarify, you still do two tile to locate resources at the bottom, but as you move down and up you continue to hollow out tiles on the side of you so eventually you hollow out a full triangle in the end.

[@likebubba]

these are very relaxing but suggestions if I may waiting for the delay is time maybe you could’ve been down there and the difference at some point was negligible also I would have prioritized having the lift flow with resources like where you dug and had some iron for example, I would instead haul those to the lift as fast as I could then go dig

[@exequielgaleano9947]

Great adaptation skills!!!! With some many changes you decided to take I feel that the ability to adapt and learn things in the momment to be able to use them later was extremely significant. I think there were a lot of little momments where you put to use some slight changes that really showed how much you were making the most out of a very different approach. I find it very cool that you were opened to that level of frustration in order to learn new and experiencie the game differently. Also, the new modifier seems surprisingly game-changing compared to the others. Although I guess that's the point of mods, lol.

[@KyFan762]

Mad respect for playing on you asked for it

[@Ironica82]

Excited to see you play the new modifier. Can't wait to watch it all.

[@smartalex22]

1:08:48 You actually clicked it twice - you can buy as many orbs as you need. :)

[@Ironica82]

Me before the video: The new mod doesn't seem to change much Me after video: That mod is insane!

[@noonebesides]

It makes for lots of carrying.

[@ONKVP]

I usually go two bricks apart BUT if I have a condenser, I go 3 wide and make a comb by digging one block in into it every 3d block from one side. So it's like IIiIIiII. This way I might not see a side of every brick, but I see a /corner/ of every brick, and iron is visible from corners. Water isn't, which is why the condenser is important. I personally invest heavily into shields, so I don't need much cobalt at least in the beginning.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Yea I get the appeal of 2 bricks apart for sure. Find myself doing that most, but the dev has been chatting on the forums about how that's not optimal strategy and I can see why.

[@ONKVP]

@@ChristopherOddI'm racking my brain trying to come up with a more efficient way and coming up empty. Maybe they think you should dig diagonally to return faster, but it's a bit of a pain in the ass

[@ChristopherOdd]

@@ONKVP so for discovering all the minerals yea 2 bricks is faster. But it’s not the fastest way to get more bricks back faster. Two by two when you need water or cobalt. 3 bricks or more when looking for iron I think

[@ONKVP]

@@ChristopherOdd Also another note - when I make these long horizontal paths, I exploit physics to drag more items at the same time. You can stuff the tunnel full of items, but drag only like 3-4 farthest ones, pushing the entire pile in front of them towards the center without losing much speed. Would help you a lot on this double iron run

[@ChristopherOdd]

@@ONKVP yup good approach

[@DraknalHitdan]

It's always interesting to see how certain gadget combinations play out, as well as their potential value/impact based on what difficulty options and modifiers you've set. The Converter seems to be a top choice in most circumstances.

[@0o0ification]

I feel like running multiple drillberts in a herd would be very efficient, especially as you described at 39:28

[@wonderweasle2212]

You don't need the carry so much if you have the lift. You can just drag two or three. Still be fast and drag like 10 in front of those three. You don't get a penalty

[@zacsubach]

Maybe you should max any weapon upgrade before triggering the final wave. And you seem to like to leave resource behind just to trigger the final wave immediately instead of hauling first and trigger in the next cycle. What's the reason for that?

[@ChristopherOdd]

Each cycle becomes more difficult so you could essentially just keep mining but the wave will ultimately be tougher anyways.

[@James_Johnson79]

I don’t understand double iron but double iron cost. Like doesn’t that just zero sum it out but require you to invest more in carry weight?

[@BloodyGrinend]

😂 his blade was too small 😂 btw always go prob, info cuts down on searching and time .

[@nawfalmisconi1287]

Really appreciate how open you are to suggestions/criticism, especially when some of them can be nagging. Tip my hat to you sir.

[@Chris-ni2qg]

hey Chris! Really been enjoying your vids. Had an eye op so can't really do anything except study and chill. So your vids has really kept me entertained. Keep up the good work.

[@__MARKR__]

I think you can start wither a little sooner, to have it prevent any attacks by several types. (back seat gaming :) )

[@allanpeter7700]

the ball projectile does a lot of damage I think you should focus more on defend from it than attack(though it doesnt really matter.)

[@gregsomlai297]

90 mins? Yes, please! If you don't mind the question Chris, are you planning on playing Scorn?

[@ChristopherOdd]

There will be a Scorn video soon!

[@silvadelshaladin]

Yep I was watching you ignore fast speed 2 for the longest time shouting at the screen "upgrade fast sword -- the initial for it stinks -- the upgrade is huge" unlike the long stab where the initial is good and the upgrade is lackluster. The second speed upgrade is also really nice unlike the bomb upgrade for the long sword.

[@kylefulgham128]

I think the strongest I’ve played yet is duel beams on a laser dome with a sup’d up stun beam. That build kicked ass. I keep hearing people say to beat the last wave. I haven’t even come close but this build was the closest. Or is there a final wave that comes if you don’t claim the relic?

[@Talon771]

How many folks are shouting at their screens for Odd to get flight speed in the early/mid game?

[@ChristopherOdd]

me!

[@hirondelline]

To be fair, I also forget about the health ha ha! I like that now you see what is currently limiting you and thus, which upgrades you should get first. I'm sad you couldn't pick the last upgrade after Fast Stab 2, though.

[@deckchair]

Another great episode of Odd And The Thrillbert

[@JDLMCLOW]

Yes!! Drillbert !! FTW!!😅

[@raybertocki1374]

If double iron doubles iron costs, what is the point of it? Is it just a difficulty increase by increasing the amount of time spent carrying/transporting resources?

[@DavidWMiller]

Pretty much. It's a modifier, just meant to change up the gameplay balance a bit. It's not strictly about difficulty either, you can in the video how it changes other mechanics, like the balance of the lift and resource converter.

[@arrowbro]

I guess the point of Double Iron is to massively slow the player's upgrades down? Since hauling power is still the same, so your income is effectively halved.

[@SuperLapplander]

I think you could improve your way of drilling by planning it out more, like when you have the lift why dont you just drill to which ever side the lift is instead of carrying minerals up and to the sides over and over. Also you tend to make alot of pits when you could just remove a single block to make it more efficient.

[@BludFan]

I really wanted to see that javelin

[@TheRezzy]

Makes me happy you like fast stab ❤ nice run! :)

[@HoosierLarry]

OK, I don't have the game yet so forgive my ignorance. Why not fully explore each zone beginning with the top down? Doesn't it get harder to get through each deeper rock layer? Won't you get resources quicker by starting with the layers you can quickly drill through?

[@Ironica82]

The further you go down, the harder the bricks are (you can tell the level changes by the color changes). Also, there are five different strengths of bricks and you can tell that by how solid the brick looks. Thus, at the start, you should only stay on level one (maybe level two if you find the two softest bricks) until you upgrade your drill strength.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Deeper layers have way more resources and upgrades. I think the best overall approach is to just mine soft blocks everywhere until your drill isn't performing well enough to continue doing that.

[@Ironica82]

@@ChristopherOdd That's usually my take as well after I get the first upgrade on the drill. Before that, even the second layer seems really slow (unless you get lucky and get a large patch of basically dirt).

[@EGRJ]

The rock density is not by layers. It's randomized. EDIT: Wherps, I was wrong.

[@kylefulgham128]

My other question is can you only play prestige mode on brutal difficulty? It seems so.

[@yemm442]

It. Is. *GOLD*. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. o7

[@starlordbob]

I really love dome keeper vids, the game looks so much fun, if you consider getting your butt kicked occasionally to be fun.

[@ChristopherOdd]

If you've seen all the vids you know they aren't all successful runs...sadly haha

[@Wilfinja]

Ah, so this is what inflation feels like

[@TheMordgan]

*Mr Incredible meme here* -What are you waiting for, kid? -I don't know. A sword upgrade, I guess. -Me too kid, me too.

[@andyg35311]

You need a longer sword to hit them drill guys before they start drilling. EDIT: Just got to the bit where you figured it out.

[@djay9843]

do u plan to make content for the upcoming rimworld dlc?

[@wonderweasle2212]

Lol, you did click it. You got plus 2 orbs. I think you can do it infinitely

[@radar2670]

Doubling the amount of iron but also doubling the cost doesn't really modify that much. The only thing I can see it affecting is the time it takes to retrieve the extra resources.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Early game is harder and your build priorities should be different.

[@Uterr]

What did you mean, by telling this modifier can snowball? As I see its only making game harder, it cannot snowball, its just you have to move more iron before getting upgrades.

[@JustGamingToday]

Great run!

[@anwd8646]

I have zero idea how to get modifiers. Can I have some guidance on this? Don’t bother with the April fools one btw, I got that one.

[@rafecolii]

Is there a mod that varies spawn timing?

[@EmergencyInductionPort]

I've heard of this game but this is first time watching it and not played it either so maybe there's a reason not to do this but it seems like it would be helpful to keep the walls on each side of the lift intact as much as possible to help pull up extra stuff because it cant fall out the way of what you're pulling but if it gets too heavy you can just drop some till its not too heavy??

[@boosomentity]

the first order of priorities round 1 dig strength round 2 move speed round 3 slice strength round 4 reflector shield round 5 dig strength round 6 fast reflect

[@MOTat18]

What happens if you beat the final wave instead of letting the bomb explode?

[@kepaa17]

Another streamer who is playing this did it. I’m not watching until I see odd do it though.

[@pappi8338]

You get an achievement

[@DrBicsta]

I like odd

[@kon_radar]

I always go for the Long Stab. It's more manoeuvrable and kills more flying creatures at once

[@DarkDodger]

It is definitely better for killing fliers than fast stab, but there are better and easier ways to kill fliers. Wither especially makes killing fliers a moot point, as it automatically wipes them all out, but the reflection shield is also a really good way as you could see in this video too. On the other hand, long stab isn't good at killing or weakening strong monsters, because of its slow speed and long recharge.

[@ProzacStylings]

Fast stab is the better tree. It leaves you vulnerable for less time, killing flying enemies quickly is more important than killing all of them at once, and javelin trivializes siege drills.

[@Paz_Soldan]

He doesn't "drag" resources the way I've seen in other videos.

[@gunslinger57]

Chris, I'm just going to throw this out there, but do you think you can't actually beat the final wave on your own, that's what the relic is for? It looks like it's just going to be an endless series of attacks until you get to that last segment, then the relic wipes everything out and saves you JUST in the nick of time.

[@gunslinger57]

@@paulie-v1y i srand corrected then. That's a strange design choice, but it's not like I created it, I guess I don't really have room to judge.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Oh it's definitely doable.

[@davideprevitera5537]

chalenges are still kind of hard to make , i mean i'm sure someone want's a no cobalt run ,but it's a bit too hard even with the shield, maybe a basic drill or low level drill challenge , you should start with the bomb thogh to make it doable, or a drillbird,

[@DobbsyLondon]

YASSSS DOMEBOIIIIIIII

[@NeroMystyra]

That feeling when your sword is too small...😞

[@nekotranslates]

Wonder if you'd do a 100% tile challenge where you clear every mineable square on the map?

[@michaelray3865]

He’s done one of those already

[@ChristopherOdd]

It's in the playlist!

[@PFCIceman]

What’s the point of doubling the resources if the upgrades are just doubled? Seems kind of redundant to me.

[@kepaa17]

Saw this mode when I went to play today. Nope! I need to be better at the game before I get crazy with my mods

[@JustMe-bx1iv]

1:08:41 - Memory loss :))

[@ChristopherOdd]

Yea I didn't realize the same node changed to be upgraded more!

[@kirosmatavastros]

What's the point of this modifier?

[@allanpeter7700]

dont think the stun laser helps with the big guy.

[@ManikandtanCK]

Wither op

[@CerberusHD]

Dunno how many hours you have in this game, but clearly you mine like absolutely ineffective... Go down straight and every 3rd row dig to both sides, so you never miss anything and have organized ways

[@DobbsyLondon]

Double iron, what's the point

[@skaarphy5797]

Not sure I like this mod. All it does it make you put more emphasis on speed and carry capacity. Not really exciting. Just a forced shift in priorities with a slight difficutly increase because of that.

[@ChristopherOdd]

That's kinda what the modifiers are for. To modify your standard playstyle and build priority.

[@tiltedbandy6038]

Uhh, isn't it just useless to use that modifier? Double iron but double costs it's basically the same as not having it.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Nope, it totally changes your build priority which can have a big trickle effect

[@ivancavar3037]

keeping the gadget is kinda cheating

[@Future_Guy]

I get really angry watching you play.

[@davegibs4761]

That was horrible for a first fry. I just don’t get why you don’t put more into drilling. Drilling is like the gateway to literally everything else.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Well jeez Dave, I'm sorry man

[@taxamand1]

@@ChristopherOdd 😂