NEW Phonak Roger On 3 Detailed Review

[@SkipperDon]

Thanks for this review! I have a Roger On, and I've found it life-changing, but now I know how to do more with it than before. BTW, the VA provided the Roger On at no cost to me after my audiologist wrote up a recommendation for me.

[@emilygreenman4522]

Great review. You didn't mention that the best feature of the Roger system is the adaptive gain! Research has shown listening to noise to be significantly better with Roger mics than other non-adaptive mic because it maintains an ideal signal to noise ratio.

[@fredbirmingham172]

So adding this to the updated hearing aids you would need to max utilization, we're looking at about $10K in cost. I love my hearing aids, and I splurged and have a previous gen Roger On that my CHAS is going to help me setup. These prices are insane!

[@fool_on_the_hill562]

Non-hearing aid user here, yet. As with so many of the Dr Cliff break-downs and reviews, he is well researched and versed on each topic and product capabilities. This video is no exception as this product has a lot of features and functionality (yea I had to watch it a couple of times). I believe this video will help me be a more informed customer/user upon deciding on my hearing aid of choice. Very nice job on a dynamic product! Side note: while listening to this vid, I wondered if there was a 'functionality range or distance' involved. It was only MOMENTS later when Dr Cliff covered that aspect as well, very nice! What made me think of the range/distance aspect, was a scene from the Naked Gun. [I'll let myself out].

[@chrluc]

I was going to really exaggerate and say yeah what does it cost $2000! And then I found yeah that’s actually what it costs… my biggest issue with Phonak is they should already have this tech already built into the hearing aids, but they rather sell accessories to get another $2000 out of people.

[@balloney2175]

Why so expensive? Is this for the rich people only?

[@JamesReynolds-q7y]

I bought the first Roger to be used in meetings. Total out of pocket was $4000 for Roger + small attachment on the streamer. I did get one Discount for the attachment. Never workedvery well. I still have it but technology has moved on. Streamers are no longer used with the new aids.

[@lancelotkamaka2563]

Tis is by far the best review ever. This is y dream device. Thanks Doc.

[@Rainbow-ds8ms]

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[@kennybirdwell]

Roger On is the best accessory for a hearing aid that I've ever had. The one and only accessory I've needed for absolutely every situation.

[@lewis71980]

For $2000 I’d expect the chip from the sphere to be inside! Does the Sphere chip in the Phonak Infinio sphere hearing aids do the processing from the microphone signals from the Roger On 3

[@lauramaeda7214]

Thank you for the review of the new Roger On V3. I have so much love for Roger devices. They have made a considerable difference in certain listening situations. I have a couple of different Roger devices and find them so useful in meetings and doctor appointments. I have the Roger On IN v2 and a few other Roger devices and didn’t realize all the different functions these devices have. I probably do not have the manual skills to connect it to the television because i just am not technologically savvy and do not always even attempt new technology. I also have not had my devices for a long time and have had only a few situations to test them out. I am using them with Phonak Lumity devices and occasionally (once)with my backup Phonak Paradise . My Roger On In V2 was set up by my excellent Hearing Up audiologist, Scot Frink and every time I use the Roger microphone, i am impressed as to how much clearer voices sound. I guess i will have to study up on the functions of my Roger microphone and see how many new situations I can use this wonderful device . It is great to know that Phonak is continuing to develop new technology and having an excellent audiologist like Scot Frink, that i will always be able to hear my best in all listening situations.

[@h20beek]

Yes, I use the clip on mic…helps so much when the person is willing to use it. I find some people not familiar with hearing loss don’t seem to like it.

[@miltwilliams2157]

Great video. I am wearing a set of Infinio Spheres fitted by an audiologist in your network shortly after they were introduced at the end of summer. I purchased a Roger On 3 to use for streaming from various sources, and it performs perfectly except for one function. That function is streaming audio from a portable audio device (radio, iPad, CD player, etc.). My audiologist was assured by Phonak's training people that the Roger 3 would do this if I purchased a cable with a 3.5 mm audio jack. So far I have tried two such cables without success, and the training specialist is going to provide me with a third. My question is: Did Phonak design change this function out of the Roger 3 since it was present in the earlier Rogers? If so, they have done a very poor job of communicating with their USA-based customer assistance personnel.

[@DrCliffAuD]

I haven't tried to use a 3.5mm to USB-C but I'm afraid that 3.5mm tech is becoming ancient. Roughly equivalent of still using a cassette tape still. 😬

[@carineliardet4761]

The audio input function has not changed. Here are a few tips. To use analog audio input make sure the Roger On is switched on Only the audio cable provided by Phonak can be used.

[@lamatamang2207]

It’s good for deaf people or not ?

[@DrCliffAuD]

@lamatamang2207 deaf, like no hearing at all? No. Cochlear Implant.

[@lamatamang2207]

@ firstly I would like to say thank you so much for take time for replied! Im using now phonak naida I hear with hearing aid but not speech clarity without hearing aid I don’t hear anything. My one ear deaf and other side also not hear properly.. I’m looking for powerful phonak hearing aid could you please tell me which one hearing aid suitable for my hearing loss I’m 30 years old 😟 lady im working full job but now I’m struggling with speech clarity ! I don’t born hard of hearing it’s start just 4 years ago I don’t exposed to loud noisy nothing it’s happened suddenly doctor said because of virus 🦠 don’t know after two years depression I feeling better now

[@lynnmoore6304]

Is there much difference in the v3 to the v2? Its not clear in the video what features are new to this version.

[@billmalley9337]

Can I update my rogers on v2 to a v3

[@benjaminkalish8660]

I have the original roger on and love it. Definitely would use the newer update.

[@ryandavis8813]

Hi Cliff, thanks for always making great videos! Quick question for you, I have the Phonak Sphere 90s, which have been amazing in pretty much every situation I throw at them. For someone that is getting a huge benefit from these with the Spheric mode, do the Roger mics really add anything on top of this? I could see the use case of a conference room with really quiet talkers but will this perform any better in those situations than a well set up sphere? Thanks and thanks for being a great resource!

[@georgekurkdjian1666]

What other brands of Hering aids are compatible with the Roger On 3?

[@sbradley34]

Will this work with Bernafon hearing aids? I have the SoundClip for the Bernafon.

[@eddieashley1553]

Sir, are you going to do a video on the new Starkey?

[@maryjarrett4115]

Can you explain more about using the On with other brands of hearing aids? Just for On ver. 3?

[@MrDavidandrewmartin]

There is a rumour that Phonak will include some of the Deep Neural Network functionality in a new Roger On device. This would help in removing background noise in a noisy restaurant type of environment. That would be a useful added capability given the directional microphones that are automatically selected. Question for a bunch of us: Why should we upgrade from version 2 to version 3?

[@lethargicbovine]

I'm totally sold on this instrument. Am working with my audiologist to purchase one.

[@mmarjisr]

Thanks for this review, I got one last year 3 months after I got the 2nd TV connector and the roger direct replaced the TV connector cause I don't like too many devices

[@pmfg875]

Dr C, have you done a review of hearing aids for patients with both ear canal stenosis and latex allergy? Thank you for all that you do!

[@JimmyNormanReformationAcademy]

Is there a way to adjust TV volume independently of the regular TV volume that the rest of the family hears?

[@johnfeole1971]

Will the earlier generation Audeo B312 v90 work with Roger On as well?

[@andyf5992]

Hi Dr. Cliff, Thanks for another great video. I have single-sided hearing loss. Would it be OK to buy & use the new Roger On 3 transmitting to a HA (e.g. Infinio Sphere) in normal hearing ear, INSTEAD of a Phonak CROS transmitter. Think they are about similar prices; and speech-in-noise situations are generally easy to anticipate in advance, so don't need the devices connected 24/7. If [Not Advisable], what is the difference between how the CROS transmitter vs Roger On 3 functions in noisy situations? Additionally, if already have CROS set-up, and then add Roger On 3, do the CROS Transmitter mic sound transfer signals become obsolete in noisy situations, and prioritize stream Roger3 mic signals only? Thank you.

[@DanAshleyWork]

7:11 "switch back INTO the automatic mode"... Did you mean switch "OUT OF"?

[@72Calbear]

I’m a high school teacher that would benefit from using this accessory to hear my students. Will the Roger 3 work with my Oticon hearing aids?

[@melinda6712]

I have a Roger Select IN. It's been a tremendous help at church and in restaurants. I'm currently using Marvel version hearing aids. Hope to upgrade to a Sphere in a few months. Do you have a detailed review on the Roger Select IN?

[@independent5564]

I have a Roger On, and it doesn't work very well in noise. The TV setup is the best for me, but in loud noise it just makes the noise louder.

[@chulhahm1345]

Will it work with Apple ear pod pro 3?

[@kshermy]

Bet my other shirt. While I won’t get my Speech in Noise testing until Dec 2024 I bet testing will show I can best the new Roger ON 3 in noisy environments and match it elsewhere with an Apple AirPod 2 ANC, even with my older P90 aids. I have the newer Phonak I90 Sphere, a Roger Pen and a Roger ON2. They all work very well in low or no noise environments. But we know noise should never enter the ear canal and AI or ANC seem to be the best options for eliminating that. I suggest trying the new AirPod 4 ANC (not the AirPod 2 Pro) for about $180 over your existing devices. It is an open fit and does not interfere with existing aids. I wear them over my I90 Spheres, no ear mold necessary. It is a very easy test. Phonak software including the myPhonak Ap is not compromised and Apple benefits include ANC to handle external noise, much better phone calls in noisy environments, better streaming and fidelity and even some extra volume boost. For a remote mic enable ‘Live Listen’ and pass or place your phone same as you would a Roger ON. Good remote ANC mics are also available. Even if Phonak includes AI in their new ON you would still need to handle the external noise entering the ear so I’m not losing sleep over my other shirt. Why not the AirPod Pro 2 is a separate topic.

[@kaym7131]

Would this help for hearing in open ceiling or those places that have extremely high ceilings, such as rafters. For example, I cannot hear in Jimmy Eggs.

[@billmalley9337]

Having had a rogers on 2 for some months I still haven't got the settings right in noise restaurants and a specialty in a large group

[@SethKrieger]

I've found that reducing the volume of your hearing aids can make the Roger ON 2 even better in noisy restaurants. In addition, I try to sit with my back to a wall or booth, or back to a particularly noisy group at a nearby table.

[@teachertreasurechest2021]

Does the Roger On 3 work with Phonak Naida P90-Up? Also, does insurance pay for this device or is this an out of pocket expense?

[@BonnieEwing-z3f]

I had sudden onset hearing loss a year ago and the hearing in my left ear never returned (other than vibration and echoing.) I was wearing an oticon with a cross. I then demo'd a phonac sphere without a cross and really liked the way it eliminated background noise. Since my audiologist believes I need a cross, when we ordered a new hearing aid for me, we got the phonac infinio with a cross. It works better than the oticon but not as well as the sphere. Embedded in your review it sounds like I can’t use the Roger On 3 because I only have one hearing aide, correct? Will the accessory work with my new infinio or do I need a sphere?

[@maryjarrett4115]

Can you set up a multi talker network with the previous version of Roger On? I was not able to do this, but I have a HLAA NCHATT colleague who does it with Roger Pens.

[@DrCliffAuD]

@@maryjarrett4115 yes you can

[@loraz0]

Hi Dr Cliff. I was wondering how I can use this with my ham radio. I would like to use the speaker out 3.5mm connection on the radio and stream into my hearing aids. If possible, I want to do this with the least amount of cables and adapters. Is it possible to do this with just a 3.5mm cable? I have been doing this with a Siemens miniTek with good results. I am the proud owner of new pair of Audeo L90 hearing aids, and I am awaiting the arrival of a new Roger on. My provider used real ear measurements when fitting, and I assume they will fine tune the Roger device prior to sending it to me.

[@anthonybohemier3882]

IF i have the roger on and a table mic ii and i have the roger app ... does it allow me to control the table mic ii (im only asking because i have tried but it doesn't seem to allow it maybe i had an old version .. only allows the roger on to be controlled maybe i have something set wrong.)

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Any plans to re-review AirPods Pro 2 now that they’ve been FDA approved? Has there been any substantial improvement in hearing clarity since the software and firmware were recently updated? Thanks.

[@DrCliffAuD]

@@BobbieGWhiz yes

[@denniscarlson8614]

Not sure how beneficial multi talker mode is as it would require purchasing more than one of these very expensive devices. Also, I have the new Infinio Sphere aids from Phonak and have found the Spheric speech in noise functionality to be vastly overrated. Try using them in a Vegas casino and it just cannot handle such a complicated noisy environment. Having said that my new aids are exceptionally excellent compared to my previous Phonak Virto M90s wrt sound quality, appearance and comfort. Also I love the battery charger, and the always excellent Phonak bluetooth connectivity and functionality to my Android phone and TV streamer. To summarize my opinion, the new Infinio Sphere is excellent, however even though the gee whiz Spheric speech in noise setting does not work very well, I would still get the Infinio Sphere in any case. As far as telecoil goes, I have an older pair of Oticon CIC aids and the ConnectLine Streamer I can use in the movie theater until Auracast is implemented.

[@DrCliffAuD]

How was the Spheric mode setup and what acoustic couplings are you using in your ears?

[@CharlesSuarez-n3p]

My Wife has 2 Roger Ons, a 1 and a 2. She recently got a Cochlear Implant from Cochlear. She still uses Roger with her remaining hearing. Is there any way to use it her Cochlear device. she will probably be getting a second one and would really like to be able to continue to use Roger. Is there any way to connect Roger On to a Cochlear device, maybe some combination of the Cochlear Phone accessory and a Phonak accessory?

[@Pro_User_HA]

Yes, it depends on which sound processor she has. See about Roger 20 receiver if she has Nucleus 8. I recommend read the sound processor manual, there is info about Roger receivers. It is a possibility to use an intermediary device, but it is bothersome. I am not sure if Kanso is compatible with ROger.

[@polcat7933]

Doesn't the newest Phonak hearing aid have the ability to understand voices in a noisy environment much better than it did in the past. Does this not conflict with the Roger On.

[@benchampion4086]

You bet is would.

[@khaledalhomaidi]

If I'm expected to pay $2,000 for a few minor adjustments, then creativity is truly lacking here. I have Roger, or rather, Roger Select, or even Roger Pen-more than enough Rogers to get the job done. What a name! I honestly expected this 'new Roger' to fix issues from previous Roger models. Unfortunately, it’s become clear to me that Phonak is starting to fail and is prioritizing profit over the customer.

[@DrCliffAuD]

You just here to vent and throw criticisms around or would you like to be productive and actually share some constructive feedback about areas Roger could be improved?

[@khaledalhomaidi]

@@DrCliffAuD I’m not here to criticize, but rather to share some requests that Phonak doesn’t seem to be listening to. We’ve previously asked for a Roger device that’s wireless for media streaming and phone use, but Phonak insists on ignoring this. Personally, I own Roger On, Roger Select, and Roger Pen, and I feel no enthusiasm whatsoever for owning Roger On 2 or 3..We were eagerly waiting for Phonak to surprise us with a Roger device truly worth the excitement. But instead, it feels like after releasing JOHN, Phonak just released 'JOHNY' with barely any meaningful improvements

[@amysievertokeefe8268]

@@DrCliffAuD wow - what a horrible thing to say to someone. I just watched the above and it sounds like a great sales pitch for Phonak - hope they are paying you well.

[@DrCliffAuD]

@amysievertokeefe8268 nope, no compensation for this video. I just say the good and the bad. I'm pretty sure Phonak didn't like the harsh criticism I gave them in this video. As for the my comment to the other individual, constructive criticism is welcome, but if you're just here to complain, go find a different channel to watch.

[@stephenhiam5375]

Any one actually use this in table mode, in a multi person talking, background noise eviroment, like a busy pub or restaurant? Does it actually make these impossible situations bareable ???

[@Jgreen2794]

I have a version 1 Roger On. When I first got it, I thought it provided some benefit. But, after using it a while, I found that it actually made noise worse. I never use it now.

[@JimLewis2]

Well done! I'll just have to rob a bank to be able to afford one! 😃

[@l1uywpap1]

Doesn’t work for me…