New Pond Liner Over Old Liner - Ask #41

[@capt.jeffzavatsky2838]

Good video.. I have a lot of rock in the soil...raked and cleaned what I could. I am cutting the old pond liner in strips and using it as an underliner to protect new liner. Didn't know about a potential bubble affect... Good tip. Thanks.

[@lisazack6459]

Your better getting old carpet plus and some underlay on top again; use the old liner rather instead as an overlay to protect the new liner from any rocks you may add, keeping the rocks away from the new liner.

[@iandouglas703]

Hey Eric good choice on the topic. I had done that mistake of putting 2 liners on top of each other and as you said it was a disaster. i am doing all 3 of my ponds into concrete and one of the reason i done so is because of tree roots. All my 3 Ponds are sitting under trees but i don't mind doing some quick leaf cleaning every day. i will send you some photos as soon i will be done with all the work i would like to get some feedback from you. Keep it up with the good work your tips are always helpful :)

[@sissymurphy9620]

This same question is asked over and over again on the pond forum sight .If it is old take it out and what is great you may have usable pieces for small ponds for frogs or for extra plants .I used my piece for a lotus, lily, frog pond and just put an air stone in it .I also used a piece to put in one of my large wooden baskets I build and it made a nice place for a lotus plant .I just cut the bottom out of the liner .Grass was used to fill in bare spots and low spots in my lawn .

[@ThePondDigger]

sissy murphy very resourceful!

[@cherylharless281]

For removing sod, another great option is to start a garden bed using the Lasagna Gardening Technique. You start by turning the sod upside down, and layering it with leaves, peat moss, straw, manure... etc. You can cover it with black plastic or even newspaper and let it perk through the winter (or whatever season!) Although in our area it might be a little too hot and need a little water in the summer and no black black plastic, just newspaper! Basically it's a lazy man's compost pile! You can also plant right away without mixing, plants love it!

[@patriceessig6735]

Is it possible to enlarge my pond by patching new liner to the old in the area I wish to extend?

[@ThePondDigger]

Yes but it is not always the best choice.

[@jackiecarpenter2977]

Thanks so much Pond Digger!

[@diverm2371]

Good video thanks and how do you find that impossible small leak that drains your pond?

[@tlbohlen]

I have been following your show for some time. Question: Last winter in Michigan I lost most of my large KOI due to winter freeze, even with air bubbling to open the ice. I just finished a 12,000 gal pond off my deck how do I prevent this from happening again?

[@mauricio-from-chi-town]

Will it be ok to flex seal a liner. My plan was fill pond , see in the morning where it goes down to, then flex seal all around the line up to the highest point I want the water to go to?

[@stephaniehenry5617]

is it okay to lay pond liner over a prefab pond . my prefab has been downloaded on one side from my Stones being on it but I don't want to pull it out and reshape it I thought I can just leave a liner over it

[@ThePondDigger]

Sight unseen I would say pull the old prefab out before the liner goes in

[@stephaniehenry5617]

@@ThePondDigger ok. Thanks

[@jefffranz5181]

Eric how can you tell when your Koi are spawning and what can you do so fry will survive

[@mrtings]

I have a few questions concerning a fish pond I would like to build. Can I run my pond over the winter and then cycle it in the spring time before stocking fish? Also will the bacteria in the pond die over winter?

[@JCJourney]

my raise pond has some algae problem. I want to buy couple of plecostomus. will them help solve the problem? will they survive winter in central CA?

[@ThePondDigger]

J Chu No they will not survive. Here is a video link we have on using plecos in your pond - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJaWo3ymapljrq8 Thanks for watching!

[@goosygaming8071]

I have a pond. And we have 5 koi fish. But we can't ever see them. Because they are always hiding under Lilly pads and rock formations. Is there anything I can do to make them more sociable?

[@ThePondDigger]

Goosy Gaming Good question! Here is a video we did on the subject. keep me posted! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppekfaOiecaqn6s

[@iandouglas703]

Hi Eric i need some help. I was planning to turn one of my ponds into a cichlids pond and was planning to do it with aquarium plants such as amazon swords, anubis, java ferns and other types now what i need to know is would a CO2 Diffuser work in a pond ?

[@ThePondDigger]

Ian Douglas If you are growing these plants outdoors you shouldn't need the CO2. Give them sun, fertilize the plants with tabs and feed the fish. The plants should go crazy!

[@iandouglas703]

Thanks Eric i will give it a try and see how it goes i will send you some photos when its complete

[@lisazack6459]

Take the old liner out and put it to the side; then put the new liner in and wait 48 hours after that hose down the old liner and then put it on top of the new liner making sure there is no sharp objects between them. The advantage of putting the old liner in top is that if you are going to put large rocks in your pond they are sitting on the old liner and not coming in contact with the new one, so adding an extra barrier of protection. You can cut up the old liner into sections to make it easier to lay as the old liner doesn't need to be water tight.

[@commodorebignose267]

I'm planning on extending my pond, I was wondering if there is any way of joining the old liner with a new piece?

[@ThePondDigger]

+william heath Yes you can get your hands on seam tape to join liner together. Here is what we use to seam 45 Mil Rubber liner together - theponddigger.com/product/liner-quick-seam-kit/

[@commodorebignose267]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[@zordon8183]

also my liner is under a few feet of water and there are no rocks covering it so will that let the sun make it brittle?

[@ThePondDigger]

Jordan Typhair The UV from the sun has little to no effect on the liner below three feet of water. 45 Mil EPDM liner is rated for 20 years exposed to UV. You will be fine for decades.

[@RichardSpiceman]

How to remove the brown stains from a liner before patching?

[@zordon8183]

#theponddigger Hey Eric! I have seen your fantastic helix water fall but I am wondering if you need to have a skimmer to have a water fall? And also witch water fall cleans your pond water the best?

[@ThePondDigger]

+Jordan Typhair Hey Jordan! I would purchase a skimmer before a waterfall filter if I only had once choice! Then I would run the water to a bog filter! The best waterfall filter is a combo of the mechanical filter and the bio filter. Helix BioMech Reactor Waterfall Filter. It is a combo filter!

[@zordon8183]

+ThePondDigger ok thanks!

[@zordon8183]

+ThePondDigger Ok so I should get a skimmer before a water fall but will the water fall work with out a skimmer?

[@benjamintimmermans1805]

Nice episode.....where can I get one of those rad shirts?

[@ThePondDigger]

+Benjamin Timmermans I thought you'd like that! I'll make a call for you. I know the CEO! BOOM!

[@thefishslayer1019]

ThePondDigger how deep should a pond be for channel cats

[@ivoryqueen7000]

Great info!

[@Musabe009]

Another great video chalked full of good info. #ThePondDigger

[@zordon8183]

+Musabe009 ok thanks!

[@M7med214.]

That other day i actually ordered liner from some website it was 12/6F. I thoght it was M didn't know that but it cost me 1500AED thats around 350$ is that the real price tho it came from US > UAE. I just got shocked of how the size were sooo small for such price. Really sad

[@ThePondDigger]

Trish Mahamed Sorry to hear

[@zordon8183]

#theponddigger Hey! I've been wondering if you only work in the USA or if you work in Canada and other places around the USA?

[@ThePondDigger]

+Jordan Typhair I have worked in many of the states across the US. I have not worked in Canada but would love the opportunity one day!

[@zordon8183]

Hey Eric! I heard koi will eat plant that you would keep in your pond. :( Is that true? and if true will gold fish or cat fish eat water plants? I hope they don't eat water plants!!!

[@ThePondDigger]

+Jordan Typhair Goldfish are not as hard on pond plants as koi and the catfish don't eat the plants.

[@anyat686]

Bubbling liner. Now ya tell me !

[@compassionatehands986]

Me too. Taking out both old liners so I can install version 3.0.

[@stephenhaitako4665]

I dont really understand where the water between the two liners is supposed to come from.

[@Musabe009]

#AskThePindigger Has the drought affected your business? If so has it been affected in any positive fashion other than conservation?

[@ThePondDigger]

Musabe009 At this time we have not felt an effect on our business because of the drought. People are becoming more aware but are still wanting water features! We are in fact working on a lot of ponds with leaks that clients would otherwise not care about. People with leaky old ponds are wanting them fixed!

[@zordon8183]

#theponddigger Hi Eric! I have been wondering if you can make a video on building a turtle pond?

[@ThePondDigger]

Jordan Typhair We are planning a Turtle Pond Construction Seminar that we will host at our headquarters later this fall! Have you watched the Turtle Pond Design Video we have here? YOu might get some ideas from it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKaVp5Sqmtafiac If you like turtle ponds, stay tuned because we have an up and coming series we are planning that will excite you!

[@zordon8183]

ThePondDigger Thanks that video helped me a lot!!!

[@zordon8183]

will a painted turtle rip a 45 mil liner?

[@ThePondDigger]

Jordan Typhair No.

[@Musabe009]

#AskThePondDigger I will have to wait till I get to a computer to send you my address. This KZbin app doesn't give me access to my messages.

[@ThePondDigger]

Musabe009 I'll be watching for it.

[@zordon8183]

#theponddigger Hey i am finally getting 3 koi they are 5-7 inches long!!!

[@ThePondDigger]

+Jordan Typhair FUNtastic!

[@zordon8183]

+ThePondDigger I am amazed by all of my new Koi! They are not just any fish they are way more then that. I am truly amazed by these fascinating animals!

[@zordon8183]

will cat fish harm gold fish or koi or either or?

[@ThePondDigger]

+Jordan Typhair Small Catfish are no problem but as soon as they get a big mouth then you might have a problem. If the cat can fit them in their mouths they will try and eat them!

[@zordon8183]

+ThePondDigger ok thank you i wont take that chanes

[@zordon8183]

#theponddigger sorry I put my question 2 time because i didnt put #theponddigger on my questions the first time I asked them

[@ThePondDigger]

Jordan Typhair No worries!