NEW Porsche 911 Targa 4S (992): Road Review | Carfection 4K

[@angamgolmei]

The Targa model is my favourite 911 of the lot.

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

If there was a manual,two wheel drive, turbo s with the fender vents and the targa roof. It would be the best car ever made imo.

[@victordasilva5255]

Thanks, now I don’t have to post this , I just like yours

[@kyew5173]

Carter retraC would weigh more than 4k pounds though

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

@@kyew5173 SO BE IT. Just add more power haha

[@TheG60528XiJinPing]

800 sounds about right

[@Zeppelin180]

Came for Henry, stayed for the physics lesson.

[@dragospahontu]

Gentian blue is one of the worst colors

[@shogun2215]

I've always had a soft spot for the Targa, for me it's the best looking 911. And usually putting the windows down as well as the roof does get rid of that buffeting noise.

[@rolandleap1]

No doubt. Something about the simplicity of having that stainless(silver) hoop makes this car pop. Wonderful looking thing.

[@akkual]

Yeah, from physics point of view, putting down the windows should destroy the Helmholtz resonator structure here, or at least make it significantly less effective.

[@Closertotruth2]

I own both a 2019 Targa PDK and a 2018 Cabriolet manual. Definitely more wind noise in the Targa than the Cab. Windows down in the Targa helps a lot. But the Targa looks better in my opinion.

[@jeangt9865]

@@Closertotruth2: Which out of the two do you enjoy the most and more fun to drive? Considering one being a manual and the other an auto.

[@Closertotruth2]

Jean GT Manual is much more fun in my opinion.

[@atlasrex]

I own a 2021 Targa and trust me - there is no horrible wind noise - even with the windows up. Sometimes you get some wind coming from behind- but pop one window down an inch and that goes away. I am 6’2” and the top of my head is below the wind coming over the top of the windshield unlike my Corvette c7 Grand sport that numbs the top of my head from the wind buffeting. Also I rarely pop the wind diverter on the top of the windshield as it causes too much noise and does not reduce the wind issues. The weight? Add one passenger and that is more than the weight difference. Silly to worry about a small amount of additional weight in a car that is designed for going to lunch with a gal rather than running on a track. Cabriolet is ugly with the top up - and won’t keep your dog safe in the back seat with the cabriolet top down like the Targa back curved windshield. Unlike this fellow that had the Targa for a day I own my car and in less than three months I have driven 6,000 miles in my Targa. This 2021 Targa is the best vehicle I have ever owned almost a religious experience on long desert freeways with the top down and on cold days the heated steering wheel and heated seats and air system pumping warm air at your feet. And in hot conditions/ the a/c pumps out massive cold air and the cooled seats washes your back in cold air as well. A fabulous car- finest and most fun car I have ever owned- and over 70 years I have owned plenty of fancy cars. Also if your a big guy-tall and or pudgy - this 911 is the one of the most comfortable cars I have driven over long or short distances. It hunkers down on long freeway rides and you never want to stop driving.

[@trevormacdougall9385]

Great comment !

[@Franzino]

Nice to read 👌

[@sanghoonlee5171]

For me, there are 2 main considerations when choosing a convertible: the car must look good with the roof up or down, and the wind noise must not be acceptable. Most reviews don't mention the wind noise, so I appreciate Henry starting his review with it.

[@sharifaismaila5009]

Which convertible would you choose based on these 2 characteristics? And what’s your opinion on the targa?

[@Monkey80llx]

The arm around the the lamp post analogy was simply brilliant! Anyone who’s ever driven a car with handling that good will no doubt be smiling too! Also love the genuine and cheeky grins into camera. Another interesting and thought provoking review, regardless of how affordable for the viewer the car is. Thank you Carfection.

[@olivergriffiths4445]

That’s exactly what I thought

[@911scales]

When you buy a 911 you want something very special and novel! Which the 911 with it's special heritage and layout already is. The Targa is that turned up to 11 - that's why we all love it and don't care if it's heavy or if it's not as good as the cabriolet. We all simply love it! Spotting a Targa is like spotting a GT3 - it is that special and I can't wait to get my hands one it 🤩

[@Krauser1226]

This 100%. When you have vehicles like the 911, passion and heritage play a huge part. It's why the 911 is still the sole rear engine layout vehicle in a world of mid-engine performance cars. The Targa is the same, it's heritage and the tradition of what makes a 911 a 911 being kept alive. It's an icon.

[@Ysf345Gaming]

Targa is much better than Cabriolet. This car looks amazing!

[@dylanh1978]

Fully agree, looks far better than the cabriolet.

[@Mazda6B6]

to each his own

[@constantine2016]

Both of them are brilliant

[@gusseisern1151]

Formula1videos better ? Why ?

[@freudsigmund72]

on looks the targa wins, but if I can afford a 911, it would still be the cabriolet to trade in my Z4 m40i for.

[@GearHeadTour]

I never knew the origin of the word Targa. Thanks, Carfection. I learned something today.

[@GearHeadTour]

@RichJW see 7:05 and it says the name was suggested by a Porsche sales director, to name it after a Sicilian road race.

[@FBodyFans]

@@GearHeadTour " ...in the same way that the Carerra had come from the Carrera Panamericana race."

[@therealcrobb6265]

Learn something new every day.

[@paulthorpe766]

@@GearHeadTour Yes Targa Florio in Sicily - I did it with Dickie Meaden in 2000 in my GT3 996.1 LHD with Evo Jan 2001 edition.

[@kendalainsley]

Cool

[@AlexSami-qw4qu]

Saturday morning. Coffee. Carfection 911 review. Life's good.

[@mateogalguera9089]

I think “sales and sentimentality” just about encapsulates most of Porsche’s major decisions post 997.

[@lohithreddy6629]

Mateo Galguera and why is that?

[@krys8494]

Lohith Reddy he was burning to use a big word lol

[@shivang15]

I have a Porsche since 2 years, but I cant even imagine myself sitting in this car! What will I even be doing sitting "inside" this car? Its so beautiful that I just want to look at it all day. Its for my eyes not some lucky passerby's. This car is so beautiful that I just need a perfect model of this on my desk.

[@kevinwilliams1421]

That wind noise really does come across in this video

[@Jaidezilla]

Especially through headphones or earbuds

[@jamesyeh3877]

Bass boosted

[@LitleBear]

I drove my uncles 991.2 Targa and I was shocked at how much wind noise there was even at cruising speeds.

[@bhaysilartdevera5997]

ShakeyBurne lucky

[@gsxawd981]

Maybe if he’d put the windows down? Why take the top down only to drive with the windows up?

[@boobyoki]

I enjoyed this review! I found it honest, informative, and a must-see if you're thinking about getting a Targa. After much research on 911s, I had my mind made up on a 911 Carrera 4S. After months of waiting for a new one to come to my dealership (they didn't know when they were getting a build allocation from Porsche) and being told I could be waiting over a year, I was told they had a build configuration on a new Targa 4 GTS that could be delivered mid-January '23. After test driving a '19 Targa GTS, I was sold!! I loved its looks, the way it handled, it was plenty fast enough for me (473 HP; 420 lb/ft Torque), and the amazing engineering of that top opening and closing! I was tempted to watch it do its thing over and over! I configured a 2023 911 Targa 4 GTS in Agate Grey Metallic. It's scheduled for a mid-January '23 delivery date! It's been my dream car since high school! I'm a very lucky man!!

[@mrdeliano2862]

Henry + Porsche = Perfection✨

[@Monkeyman-xw5sd]

No it equals Carfection

[@TheTerrier]

@@Monkeyman-xw5sd laughed out loud at that

[@Jb001jb]

Very impressed seeing the roof folding. Imagine the engineering behind that mechanism. Unreal..

[@speed_racer]

My 2011 MX5 Hardtop did the same, and could do that while driving. I’ve got a 911 now, but the top was executed better in the Mazda.

[@daniel635biturbo]

I'm in deep water here, coming with critique on one of the greatest KZbin channels. Can I please ask for "metric" Nm values as a compliment to imperial units, at least as an added text in the bottom. If not I will keep pressing pause, just to do my maths.

[@olivergriffiths4445]

Just ask Siri, takes about 5 seconds and super easy

[@cmoney360CS]

No

[@marioranteri8775]

I learnt to drive with this car, it will forever be in my heart❤️

[@slopesripper]

I appreciate the history bit and pictures very much. Thank you Carfection team for bringing us these wonderful car videos. Exceptional quality.

[@AlexanderdePooter]

Can’t wait for the first one to come in! What a beautiful machine! Awesome 👏

[@SirMopy]

Alexander de Pooter love your channel! You are always showing such nice configurations!

[@SvenKolb]

I can’t wait, too

[@maximo90019]

There's no better escape than ten minutes with Carfection

[@brucebogstrotter1796]

The buffeting is a complete deal breaker for me. Would drive me insane.

[@theosiegstolz3991]

what's buffeting?

[@user-mq7vf9me3y]

⁠@@theosiegstolz3991Repeated compression and decompression of the air inside the vehicle. It’s why driving at high speeds with the windows down in any car makes a helicopter sound.

[@Scream250]

Buffeting drives me insane.

[@samburger44]

is that a pun

[@hertzair1186]

Porsche has to do something about that “hey that guy left his trunk open” rear spoiler....

[@martijnkosters9024]

Henry Catchpole: come for the car review, stay for the Helmholz resonance.

[@conormorris]

I was in one of these 2 days ago in an amazing red. I haven't been in a 911 since a 1997 turbo, the bad boys 911. And in my opinion it still has the 911 vibe. I knew looking for this that Henry would have a video on it. Thanks Henry, always a brilliant reviewer.

[@ananddullabh]

100% the best looking 911 in the new 992 generation for sure! Good call and cheer for the review Henry!

[@revmedia8108]

Much love, your friends at Rev Media!! Hiya, Barbie Hi, Ken You want to go for a ride? Sure, Ken Jump in I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation Come on, Barbie, let's go party I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation I'm a blond bimbo girl in a fantasy world Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink Kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky You can touch You can play If you say, "I'm always yours" (ooh, oh) I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) Make me walk, make me talk, do whatever you please I can act like a star, I can beg on my knees Come jump in, bimbo friend, let us do it again Hit the town, fool around, let's go party You can touch You can play If you say, "I'm always yours" You can touch You can play If you say, "I'm always yours" Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ah ah ah yeah) Come on, Barbie, let's go party (ooh oh, ooh oh) Oh, I'm having so much fun Well, Barbie, we are just getting started Oh, I love you, Ken

[@IamCredit]

Sales and sentimentality could sum up Porsche's entire businesses strategy.

[@ultimatelists9648]

MInus James Dean's Spyder which caused a lot of problems to a whole lot of people. :D

[@rtorbs]

Sales ? Cant that be said about any business ? Plus the holding company is so vast and varied that technically they dont need to sell a single car and could still remain buoyant

[@IamCredit]

@@rtorbs bruuuuuuuuuuuh

[@swulabs]

The most handsome Porsche in my most humble opinion.

[@frankly5171]

The coupe is still the 911 to get, for looks, performance, NVH and price as well. Thanks as always for an honest and useful review. Well done.

[@flowfiya4501]

NO, everyone says THIS is the best looking 911, just look at are the top car channels. They all say this and since my friend has one i have wanted one so bad...it gets way more looks/stares and strikes more convo than his 911 coupe did.

[@daviddrewel2719]

The Targa top is also much more secure than the convertible. You can lock it up!

[@jameswillard1]

Every Cabriolet model since 991 8 years ago has used a magnesium hard paneled roof that basically just has a cloth covering, so it’s really no less secure than this Targa version

[@paultaylor701]

Car especially at this level are an emotional purchase, and the Targa looks lovely, so buy one.

[@sarathsanjeev9409]

dear sound engineer of carfection, how did you pick up that wind buffeting? Its annoying and almost fascinating at the same time lol

[@AndorRadnai]

I would argue that in this generation 911, the Targa is much more beautiful than the normal cabriolet. It is not on par with the Coupé, but it gets rid of the hunch formed by the engine compartment lid, which is very prominent in the fully open top version, diminishing the clean and elegant lines. The Targa roofline takes the accentuation away from the hunch and moves it to the rollbar, which works its absolute finest in the context of this generation. That would be my reason for going for the Targa (although the Coupé wins the overall decision).

[@joebloggs4191]

This is the first video I have seen on the 911 targa that mentions the buffeting issue. However for me there is simply no contest if I was to buy a 911 today be it a 992 or 991 it would have to be the Targa it just looks so freaking cool!

[@makatron]

The Targa is the one tust I'd daily, convenience of just having the top removed whilst keeping that gorgeous rear glass bubble.

[@mitchcullen6784]

I swear my C1 listening test was read out by this guy. I freaked out when 10 min later I played this video

[@JuanMartinez-mj4wk]

Irrationality is a fundamental part of our car passion. Targa might be a nonsense, but just looking at its sensuous curves is just to fall in love with.

[@OffroadTV2023]

Even in Legos, I prefer when bricks are printed, not stickers. Gives them premium feel. :) The same with Porsches. XD

[@mannyrosado9887]

As a 1967 Targa owner, I would love to get my hands on this car in the future when it becomes affordable.

[@seeingthelight3608]

Great presentation, again. History behind the Targa was the cherry on top of the cake.

[@Gangstabob716]

uploaded the right car on the right day.

[@mthokozisidelwa]

Henry is the best when it comes to reviews🔥🔥

[@gsayers8388]

When I watched my uncle put the top down on his it made almost no noise. It was amazing.

[@ry9392]

If they make hardtop version I’ll buy it with no doubt. But soft top emm..well..ok

[@AdamAuxier64]

I have a 24 Targa 4S., The rear seat feels much safer for my small children than a fully open Cabriolet. Rearward visibility is much better. Its cooler...thats the best reason.

[@VirtualToursTravel]

Such a lovely video! This video is amazing! Thanks for sharing :)

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Check out our NEW Porsche 911 review!

[@treyquattro]

the thing I really like about the Targa (not that it's the 911 I lust after) is that when the rear screen is moved away from the body the 911 closely resembles a Carrera GT, until the window is put back again.

[@colinhardy7203]

Henry, you are so right. I had something of a Cabriolet/Targa debate but eventually decided on the Cab for just the reasons you give. Targa does look so lovely though eh?!

[@Braselton21]

With that glass bubble, it eliminates any blind spot that most journalist complain about

[@andyvankerkhove6902]

The Targa 992 is the most beautifull 911 ever made. In my 997 c4 cabrio that deflecting screen came up automaticly

[@johnT5]

I have a 1984 white on black Targa...an old twin of this car in the review..and it's magic. I'd probably buy this if I were looking for new. Great and honest vid. Thx.

[@ivangalea8628]

I know it's not the purest or best-handling 911 but it's a beautiful car!!

[@Kaze919]

Ohh f**k me mate, that shot from the rear glass panel at 0:56 is just pure bliss.

[@rebeltvr6046]

The 911 Targa is by far the best-looking 911 (except for the GTx variants with the big wings maybe), and style is everything. If/when I can afford a 911, you bet your ass I'm getting a Targa.

[@h3runs]

This wasn't the latest or longest review I've seen of the Targa, but it was easily one of the most informative. The roof mechanism kinda irks me though. I wish they could have kept it simple like the original Targa, and made a lightweight and manually removable roof.

[@jeangt9865]

Then you are better of with the speedster.

[@kenm4479]

Exactly, the simple solution without the extra cost and weight.

[@4g5y]

That exhaust note is good. Audible, but subtle!

[@shyyongc.9477]

Although the wind noise is very 'noticeable', I'd still prefer the Targa purely for its look XD

[@che6mw1]

Henry - Strangest proposition of the week (perhaps?) - If I bought you a little stool to place besides my bed would you come and read me a bedtime story maybe once or twice a week? Love your narrative. Another cracking video 👍

[@simoncouldry7174]

Steeple Bumpstead to Finchingfield! One of my favourite roads.... and on my doorstep as I live in Bumpstead! Great review as always Henry.

[@HawkMillFarm]

Simon Couldry Didn’t spot that,will now have to watch for a third time!

[@suhassreenivas1878]

A car history documentary produced by Carfection would be superb!

[@joetacchino4470]

I agree 100% with Henry. You want open top, get the cab. The Targa top weighs more, in the wrong place. It also forces you into mandatory AWD. You can’t open the top on the move like you can the cab. You get no benefit in stiffness unlike the old Targa, because the roll hoop is just a decorative part of the heavy roof. You also don’t get nearly as much air in the cabin as you do in the cab. Looks better though. There is that.

[@1fujimonk]

Great review as always, Henry. I've been following you throughout the years and I catch you (no pun intended) reminiscing about the 911 attributes like if you were part of its heritage. Well, today I own a GT3 Touring because of your EVO 911R interview with Andreas Preuninger 4 years ago. A car, I must admit, my wife will have to pry from my own lifeless body someday. Therefore, to quote one of your quotes, "I went full crank" and to me, at the very least, you've become part of the 911 heritage. Warm greetings from West Coast Canada!

[@darrellhiatt6500]

Hi What year did u get? Sincerely Darrell

[@1fujimonk]

@@darrellhiatt6500 Hi Darrell, 2018 GT3 Touring. ;)

[@darrellhiatt6500]

@@1fujimonk it must be amazing! Do you mind sharing approx price and mileage- or what your comfy with? I have a new Speedutv.com SXS coming at 300 go for desert racing, now I need a street ride! I am ex Pro Linebacker build- 6'5" 275lbs. Can you get seat back far enough for a quick nap on a turn out if needed? Manual or auto tranny? Thank you in advance!

[@darrellhiatt6500]

300Horse power stock on SPEED SXS. Sorry! PS, my Dad had a ice green 911S '77 growing up. Pumped!

[@SuperHeliboy]

Looks thousands of times better than the one a few years ago.

[@onechopbuddy3849]

I prefer the targa and I just ordered one today 😀

[@rightuppercut1426]

You’re a very, very lucky man. Enjoy!

[@fragu123]

Congrats....

[@drazenklikovac2964]

what do you do for living to have money to buy it? 😅😅

[@onechopbuddy3849]

I’m very lucky to be able to afford it it’s an 18 month wait, so I still have time for some saving. This has been a dream car for me since I was a boy 😀😀😀

[@rightuppercut1426]

Onechop Buddy: May I ask what color you chose?

[@redskytitan]

Love the Targa, just ordered myself one today 😀

[@jeremyepstein7977]

Targa's hold their value so so well though. That's certainly a reason someone might get it over the Cab.

[@TuttixD]

Henry really is the best in the business

[@NineHellHeaven]

One of my neighbours has the 991 version. Gorgeous car.

[@mozebulbulia]

'' sales and sentimentality'' is the new sense and sensibility

[@richardcatchlove9115]

Citrus sour in classic Henryism. There’s the quintessential ‘but’ with Henry before/after every compliment. ‘I like it but because apples are 5 bucks a llb I’ll refrain from accepting.’ There’s no doubt Henry picks the nuances. That’s good, BUT, I wonder whether many are worthy of emphasis. Henry’s opinion that the Cab is better because...... I’ll contend the Targa is better for looks, it’s operation particularly as Henry emphasised that point at the start! I’ll also give you another opinion: we all have a CHOICE. And that’s the most positive option that Porsche offers. Thank you Henry, I enjoyed your review very much.... then again I feel the Targa is a winner.

[@dinangunarathna3278]

I'm always first for Henry!

[@AnchonCat]

Bet ur are sunshine.

[@SpeakTheTruth-gk8dq]

I want a convertible but I hate that canvas roof. So this targa version is perfect with the glass back window.

[@rdencys]

all the 911 targa are the best looking 911

[@Cafferssss]

If it was a c2 targa with a manual box, I'd take it over any other 911 in the range. I'm never going to be able to push the limits of a gt2rs because I'm not a racing driver. So may as well have something with about enough performance that I find far more pleasing to the eye. 🙌🏻

[@magnusshawn4698]

I wonder if it makes that buffeting noise with the windows down…

[@mattsurrey6138]

That wind noise sounded great going through my subwoofer! Thanks :D Such a shame they dont do a 2/2S version. It would save some weight and after owning a 992 2S for 6 months I can safely say I've never felt I needed more grip, even in the wet. There's one final downside missed out of the video. The price!

[@dlamb2840]

That is the hottest, sexiest looking 911 I’ve ever seen! With the roof down that car is just gorgeous. Amazing with roof up as well and the wind noise would be something I could live with! I currently enjoy a Renault Kangoo Van!! Yes I could tolerate the 911s wind noise.

[@markastor6740]

As always, first class review, no wasting time with 75% of the video dedicated to bable that has nothing to do with how the car drives (which is why you buy this car in the first place).

[@grahamtricker4103]

For 911 the 992 Targa looks very nice indeed.

[@abovemadness]

Such a nice vehicle, best Targa to date imo

[@HawkMillFarm]

Straight in there and the reason I have a Cab, nice to have the science behind the buffeting explained too. Targa looks fab but isn’t so great to live with roof down. Agree re the touch screen too.

[@kenmason9354]

Love the look of this Porsche 👏👏👏👏👏

[@pride355]

Eventhough targa looks iconic, cabriolet can be purchased with RWD which will be almost 100 kg lighter and will be more peaceful when it is driven opentop.

[@radisatubic4466]

Habe die Ehre gehabt von Jan. 1970 bis Mai 1971 unter meinem Vorgesetzten Ricco Steinemann an der Abfertigung speziell für Übersee und für Prominenz bestimmten Porsche 911 im Gebäude in Hintergrund, gearbeitet und einige Prominenz gesehen unter anderem Karajan, Senta Berger oder Rennfahrer Björn Waldegard und Geb. Rodrigez gesehen. Es waren schöne Zeiten als Angestellte und Vorgesetzte eine grosse Familie waren und man sich begrüsste.

[@mattwilliams8144]

The Targa is the best looking 911 model hands down

[@ArvindSingh-hf2zd]

Thanks for your review. It helped me me decide.

[@mattjonesgt3538]

Awesome as always Henry.

[@raggedy7]

Great video as always. Love the Rapha shirt!

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

Speedster and Targa is the most porsche, porche ever made in recent years

[@christopheredwards7330]

Excellent job as always Henry. However I am getting tired of that particular stretch of road. Can you go to Scotland for the next one?

[@jovar.3649]

It’s the most unique 911 you can buy and it doesn’t look like it has a hump unlike the cabriolet.

[@ciprianchirilov1039]

Such a beautiful thing to look at

[@bofelomooketsi5077]

The most beautiful car on the planet.☝😭😭😭❤❤❤

[@Maurice_Moss]

I think a lot if people, like myself, like the Targa because you don't lose the coupe lines, although the 992 cabriolet is much better these days.

[@SylentONE]

Those lines...👌👌

[@ternavasso1963]

With the new Cabriolet, was a Targa really necessary? I always preferred coupes but the new Cabriolet is awesome and with the wind deflector up, you don't have any wind or wind noise in the cabin.

[@hgibbings]

The Helmholtz resonance. Love it!

[@DanLMH]

Lol imagine the repair costs when that roof goes wrong xD

[@DanLMH]

@RichJW I dunno, a quick Google & "In 2015, it was named the second least reliable car brand in the UK, coming just above Bentley. The study was conducted by WhatCar? And WarrantyDirect and analysed 37 car brands and 50,000 live insurance policies. And the results showed that Porsche were not reliable at all."

[@DanLMH]

@RichJW I suspect after a report like that they stepped it up, but I couldn't find anything more recent that wasn't JD Power survey.

[@DanLMH]

@a gentleman in denial copy pasta that quote lmao, it'll come up

[@johnwhodat8135]

I got a 2006 cayenne S with the panoramic roof and that thing doesn't close all the way. The SUV barely has 50,xxx miles.

[@johnwhodat8135]

@@DanLMH ..you don't buy a Porsche for the reliability. If you want the reliability then buy a Toyota. I have a 911 and I drive on weekends mostly. Not a daily driver.

[@lightofjahs]

Love the way it looks but I've never understood why someone would buy the targa over the cabriolet, and the cab looks great too.

[@ExotiC255]

sales and sentimentality. Thats the thumb up.