New Rockets, New Tech, and New Glenn | This Week In Spaceflight

[@MickRonald]

I feel bad for the many people that worked for years on the Peregrine lunar lander project. Thanks for this latest update Elysia, Alex, Julia, Max, Stephen, SCL, Ryan C., and Kevin

[@535tony]

It must have been devastating for the people behind that lander. This reminded me of when a valve problem caused a SpaceX Dragon capsule to explode. I hope the company can bounce back.

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

Hmm a sticky valve.... Well, Boeing knows all about that, thanks to delays... I, genuinely and non-sarcastically, wonder if the lengthy delays thanks to BO, are at all related to *this* valve's malfunction?

[@535tony]

@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Depends on who made the valves, remember a SpaceX Dragon capsule blew up because of a bad valve. Many of these parts are not made in house, but they should be properly tested. As I recall the helium tanks that pressurized the ascent engine fuel tanks on the Lunar Module were blown open and once they were opened they stayed open. There were also two helium tanks with valves where only one was used for redundancy. That engine had to work the first time or the Astronauts would never leave the Moon. There are people who designed this system sweating it out now trying to figure out if it was a hardware or design problem.

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@535tony I guess I wasn't specifically implying it was INITIALLY faulty, just as those on Starliner hadn't been. Having to sit around due to delays, is what I'm wondering if could've *lead to* this failure. But, indeed, if they have used a valve that's not a one-off creation, maybe they can check to see if valves from that same batch have failed/had issues in other spaceflight applications, or in other industries.

[@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365]

I hope NSF never changes their theme music. It's such a head banger.

[@Tinman_56]

Elysia's commentary on these updates is the best. 😊

[@535tony]

Good to see the BE-4 engines run as advertised.

[@NeedsLessWedge]

Success on first attempt. Some pretty large engines too. New Glenn will be something to see with even more engines on the booster

[@GB-zi6qr]

Absolutely!!! I do enjoy the competition between Blue Origin and SpaceX, however the use of methelox engines is a plus. Now if SpaceX can get a full mission from Starship before the end of the quarter everyone will be in better spirits.

[@535tony]

@@GB-zi6qr Yes, if BO can pull off a New Glenn test flight before the end of the year even better. Imagine, three new Boosters coming on line in the next year or two. This will bring the Moon and even Mars a lot closer.

[@GB-zi6qr]

@@535tony agreed 💯

[@Nowhereman10]

@@535tony Even if NG doesn't launch by the end of this year, if Blue makes a huge amount of progress with it, then that's what's important, leading to a launch early next year.

[@I-0-0-I]

Elysia is really good at this format.

[@ross077]

What an eventful week in spaceflight it's been. A great time to be a space fan. Well reported and summarised NSF👍

[@WWeronko]

5:42 As a retired mechanical engineer, I admit I don't know much about spacecraft design, and I certainly don't have a copy of Astrobotic's Peregrine drawings. That said, for terrestrial engineering, designing a system with such an obvious single point failure seems a bit unusual. To me a second in-line backup valve and a tank pressure relief system would at a minimum been installed. Clearly weight limitations need to be considered. However, valves fail to seat all the time and critical functions ought to have redundancy.

[@classydave75]

Is there any validity in saying that your comment on valves doesn't make me confident for all of the non pressure fed engines that are going to be used on manned Moon landers?

[@WWeronko]

@@classydave75 Manned space vehicles are all designed with redundancies. Moreover, the Starship's main Raptor engines are not pressure fed as such, but will require some sort of pressure system to keep the fuel tanks from going into a vacuum. Moreover the Starship will have two Reaction Control Systems. One would be a cold gas thruster system and the other a hot gas system. Both will require pressurized fuel systems. I am sure SpaceX will have considerable valve redundancies.

[@mrgriply]

Another excellent report from Elysia and NSF 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@john.dcollins5792]

Thank you love the FRIDAY UPDATES

[@BenjySparky]

Elysia and NSF, y'all rock! Peace ✌️

[@eddiejokerzyt3077]

Wow that Jiuquan pronunciation was spot on!!!!🎉

[@Jack-B-Human]

Well done on that Barge 8:13

[@JerrSpud]

i laughed pretty good at that name

[@JennyElizabeth1]

Love your earrings ❤ Always so cool Elysia

[@xHomu]

So fresh, so clean

[@ThompPL1]

8:16 . . . "Dong Fong Hong Tiangong . . ." Now say that 5 time in a row ! 😆

[@DroidURLuking4]

Great job everyone.

[@bksnider157]

Most excellent

[@stuartreed37]

Really sad for the Peregrine. Hope they can get the design fixed and try again soon.

[@Nowhereman10]

It's valve that caused the leak. The rest of the spacecraft is performing very well.

[@DSCuber-28-01-2019]

FYI Ax-3 mission will send the first Turkish astronaut to space! 🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@MistSoalar]

I don't speak chinese, but it seems Elysia's chinese accents getting better over time?

[@shanent5793]

I don't know if it's better but it's wrong. "Tian" is one syllable, not two. Chinese syllables also have at least four different pitch profiles, she pronounced them all flat or falling

[@liquidpatriot4480]

I'm sure the Chinese villages the CCP drops used rocket stages on have more important concerns.

[@wafikiri_]

If that failed valve had been a fail-safe valve complex (two sets of valves in series, each with two valves in parallel) like those in the Apollo 11 Eagle lander, this issue would most likely have not happened.

[@havelsand]

Every week a new pair of spacy earrings. Great 👍🏼

[@shanent5793]

What was your source for peregrine's apogee? The reported apogee is 7000 km beyond the planned lunar distance

[@ale131296]

Based on the data given by ULA of a C3 of roughly -2km^2/s^2

[@ale131296]

In fact on their latest press release it shows Peregrine has now crossed lunar distance and it's still climbing to get to apogee (Not sure if KZbin will display the link but here it is twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1745956321055179100 )

[@shanent5793]

Ok thanks, though Astrobotics communications haven't been very clear, especially their illustrations

[@time-traveler-1961]

Love your videos Elysia. I wish you and Jack do all of them? There are a few that do them who are hard to understand. I have to watch while muting them. Keep up the great work NSF!

[@WernherVonKerman.]

some of the launch dates say 2023

[@IiIytIi]

100% Alex chose the video title😅

[@ale131296]

Woops

[@kastenolsen9577]

A good book on how to frugally colonize our solar system is Second Exodus Colony. Located at the Internet Archives.

[@ryanhamstra49]

12:14 how does that get forgotten? You have a decade long project, get a sample from an asteroid and get it into the glove box and suddenly everyone looking at each other like, “do you have a 3/8 Allen key?” “What, I thought you had that?” And if the answer is they used a proprietary 5 sided bolt or something stupid like that, then why??? They worried about the Chinese spies on the asteroid getting ahold of it??

[@ale131296]

It's not that it got forgotten. No one expected the sample canister to be jammed shut before they went to open it. It wasn't until they actually went and tried to open it that they found the issue.

[@HectorRoldan]

PLEASE tell me those earrings have a button to trigger a light up launch sequence?!?! I'd wear one as a pin until other Space Vehicles are 'Lit'

[@romec3435]

🚀👍

[@vmat377]

Pocari Sweat drink on the peregrine?

[@jaydonbooth4042]

The Gravity-1 rocket looks so goofy with how short it is but with big fat boosters lol.

[@FastSloth87]

all of the dates are wrong, they say 2023.

[@corwinmorton3411]

It seems NASA is not all important because they too have commercials that interrupt their broadcasts I counted three interruptions before I got to it not more than a maybe a minute ago that took up a quantity of about almost 15 minutes

[@renesoucy3444]

I wonder if BE-4 needs less parts is better? Or is ir perfect in its design as it is? Perfect as the RS-25 engine is? I bet it is, no failure, any! A perfect Bugatti like marvel! No dragster BS, just a very confortable ride to space. Like the F1, perfect!

[@sketchingfish]

Yo

[@corwinmorton3411]

I seem to recall that this technology you speak of happened about 5 years ago

[@mohawksniper79]

👍🏼😘

[@curtiswfranks]

What are these ear-rings?

[@chukcavigliaok]

🤟🏿

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

*_BE-3_* on New Glenn? Is that a scripting error, or, is BO _that_ hard up for BE-4 components that they don't even have mock up hardware available??? 🤨😒 _edit: typo_

[@BCR81]

I think be-3’s are on the second stage, correct me if I’m wrong though

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

@@BCR81 I googled them before I posted because I simply hadn't heard of them. (granted, I'm not a rocket afficionado) You're close, though... My results were that: BE-3u = Upper-Stage engine BE-3 = _New Shepherd's_ engine While in the moment of searching, I couldn't remember if she said "u" or not _(and didn't feel like hunting for that point in the vid 😅),_ so I just assumed she had not, which is why I thought it could've been a script typo. I had also thought it was *_BE-2_* that New S. used, which further drove my confusion about where this BE-3 engine fit in to things. heh

[@GreatMewtwo]

I'm not for flight.

[@Wrangler-fp4ei]

Very interesting Chinese company named the rocket after Einstein. So far they've named everything from Chinese culture.

[@petribz400]

End of the year😢 but it only cakes one day to stack a rocket

[@Scanner9631]

2024 is the 4th year in a row for planned "end of the year" New Glenn flights but none have yet occurred.

[@CelikDeluXe]

[@joaohneuhaus]

8:24 It's the most nasty looking, ugliest smoke I ever saw.

[@jerwahjwcc]

The music over Elysia speaking was better but still super annoying

[@535tony]

Only two launches of the Vulcan this year? They have a long way to catch up to SpaceX, even Slowpoke BO might catch up with their New Glenn.

[@Scanner9631]

There appear to be at least 3 more Vulcan flights planned for this year.

[@535tony]

@@Scanner9631 Ok so the first two are to certify it with the Government and the next two are government flights?

[@aero_park]

There’s supposed to be 5-7

[@Scanner9631]

@@535tony 2 military

[@ale131296]

There are 6, we just only said that after the first two they'll be able to get certified by the military to fly their payloads

[@535tony]

Knowing how slow BO is I doubt there will be a flight of New Glenn this year.

[@eichelbergergary]

engines were delayed but all major components are now complete. Integration and testing and ground operations are next but there is no reason to say any launch is unlikely.l..naturally, issues can develop, but they are well on the way now.

[@535tony]

@@eichelbergergary I don’t need a reason, it was just my opinion. The first stage even says not for flight, they will probably test it to destruction. BO is the slowest company ever. They haven’t put one ounce into Orbit so far. Just my opinion. If they actually launch before the end of the year I would be happy but their track record so far sucks.

[@purona2500]

You talk slit for someone who doesn't know anything. The booster is flight hardware already confirmed ​@@535tony

[@ddubzz_]

[@milehunter227]

Test

[@nandisaand5287]

Wait! The END OF THE YEAR? But the year literally just started. Starship will probably be operational (making the thing obsolete) before it even launches. Blue Origin is such a joke.

[@eichelbergergary]

starship has to first not explode...and even once they fly, they have to build up capabilities beyond just survival -- and all of that does not make all other launchers "obsolete" by any stretch.

[@keithkaranu4258]

Operational is a strong word. I'd be shocked if there's a non SpaceX payload on a starship this year.

[@joeshmoe4671]

Blue Origin will never fly this year and quite possibly not next year either.