NEW RORY & MAL | Episode 25 | FT. RUSS

...and get comfortable! Rory & Mal sit down with rapper Russ off the release of his album 'Chomp 2', starting off speaking on his previous run in with Mal, which leads into a conversation about his opinion on the media vs. the artist. Russ rehashes the ‘Everyday Struggle’ interview that he believes started the media hate for him, and the timeline of accompanying situations where he offended people (10:28), and he addresses how being anti-industry affects his career (14:50). Rory asks Russ if maybe he is the wrong messenger to push his message of independence to a black led culture (23:00). Mal inquired about Russ not dating women in the industry just for a look (29:30), and Russ opens up about his current love life and his outlook on marriage.
Finally, they get into his new album ‘Chomp 2’, (53:00), discussing what Russ was trying to accomplish with this album, and going toe to toe with some of the best rappers on his features. Rory asks Russ about his opinion on SoundCloud rappers and SoundCloud not evolving when it had the chance (1:13:00). They start on a conversation about the negatives of independence and why it’s not for everyone (1:24:50). Russ talks about finding his latest artist off Tik-Tok (1:51:30), and how keeping his morals about independence while signing artists is important to him. As they wrap up, Rory asks Russ how he sees himself aging in HipHop (2:11:20), and they end off with Russ speaking on issues he’s had with other rappers (2:43:00).

[@samuelboadu160]

This episode was fire af. Never listened to any Russ or watch any content on him but he earned my respect. Yall outdid y’all selves 🔥🔥🔥💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@alsahim3952]

😂😂😂

[@alonzox5420]

U been missing out Russ is Nice

[@tatertots0046]

You really been missing out Russ really gonna go down as the GOAT of his era. He's the complete package.

[@dustythedude8653]

Listen to him man Russ is super dope

[@bryancole4022]

Russ is a monster

[@malikturner187]

I want to see Rory and Mal get the Drake interview just so I could see Joe's head explode. 😂🤣💀

[@TheStop]

word i really wouldnt even care about the interview it would just be Joes response that would entertain me lol

[@shenellrichardson4936]

😂😂😂

[@houseofmatrix6174]

AK going be press 2😹😹😹

[@TheStop]

@@houseofmatrix6174 nah you added another layer, i didnt even think of Ak. He definitely writing a Stan letter to Drake if that happens 😂

[@ItsCrem]

😂

[@elninoheroe663]

This made me want to go listen to his album and thankful i did , because it was fucking fire. What the hell Russ. Keep that chip on your shoulder fam. It's going to make you one of the goats.

[@failfwrd]

I did the same. This album was flawless top to bottom.

[@MrSpeakonit1]

Yall done talked me into checking it out. 💯

[@ViewtifulJones954]

💯

[@lvl7867]

Ima go check it out now..

[@DC-8-8-8-]

The album is good

[@RealTalk720]

"Double down on who u are" I ain't even know I needed to hear that but goddamn I felt that shit

[@PRSNMKE]

Facts

[@realone8155]

U ain't shit tho

[@RealTalk720]

@@realone8155 I'm out tryna spread love While u out here poking holes in niggas self esteem. We are not the same

[@Yooooo91]

This was 🔥 need more interviews

[@INHOUSEFLAVOURS]

Russ is an ELITE guest. Jewels upon jewels. You cant fault the man. Rory & Mal did a stellar job 👏

[@Hangingwithtyrell]

This yall best episode yet 🥶 geesshh this content is GOLD

[@Sullivan09300]

We need the part 2. Russ really just wanna talk for hours

[@churchhide]

Glad Russ has become more self aware and realize that he was being super corny and emotional in the past, he’s always had great Conversation and made some good points

[@ChristianSedaPlays]

Facts but that comes with maturity. We the same age and I was an idiot 5 years ago so I can relate

[@altongreen9213]

I never understood how people viewed him as corny though. He just showed confidence because he literally produces, and writes his own music. A lot of the top artists in the industry today can’t say that. We weren’t created to be the same. Definitely respect your opinion though bro

[@LiLMessi1000]

@@altongreen9213 He was caught up in emotion and arrogant about it. That’s what made him 🌽

[@rikkidgermano9640]

@@LiLMessi1000 Why wouldn't be emotional about his art?! People thought he was an easy target and tried to attack him so they got wha they was asking for. That is not arrogant but if people do not see your worth and view the effort you put in and at the same time try to make you look stupid, he had all the right to defend himself. Mind you, he never attacked someone who did not talk shit 1st. No action - no reaction, it's that simple!

[@mocahmcgrady7530]

@@altongreen9213 honestly it’s cause he’s white and he’s not a hood nigga. It’s very difficult to not b a hood nigga and not look corny. J Cole and drake have done it but drakes a singer too and some people still think they corny even now.

[@Marvelous95]

I've been a Russ fan for almost 5 years now, and this the same reason I became a fan, he speaks from a point of "Bet On Yourself". I remember that corny era of people hating on him. Idk how you can hate on him preaching about independence, and ownership. He dropped a lot of gems on this pod. Besides all that the music 🔥🔥🔥 as well. Chomp 2 is phenomenal. My favorite record "Salute" 🔥🔥🔥

[@mcbdllc136]

Idk about hate maybe people thought he was arrogant but I liked that talk yo shit whats corny was when he was tryna run up on rappers with his security like chill you won't do that with pooh shiesty or somebody like that

[@konrTF]

@@mcbdllc136 In fairness just cause you wouldn't check every person that said something to you in the same way that doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't check someone if they do. Like if Mike Tyson was talking shit you'd probably leave it alone, but that doesn't mean you should never do anything, right?

[@mcbdllc136]

@@konrTF no you get no points in general just stay in your lane cuz your gonna look corny as he did a couple years ago cuz your not being yourself

[@antoinej18]

This was the first Rory and mal episode I watched from front to back. Say what y'all want about Russ but this man is impossible not to l listen too in long format and not get some jewels. This man is a wise man. Shout out Russ

[@RRAREBEAR]

incredible interview with tons of valuable info for independent artists and all creatives. russ continues to grow. a man of music AND endless inspiration!!! by the way the book he references at 2:05:20 is Mark Manson's "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*CK!" - _“We have evolved to always live with a certain degree of dissatisfaction and insecurity, because it’s the mildly dissatisfied and insecure creature that’s going to do the most work to innovate and survive.”_ bless!!!!!

[@turkaacid]

Broo! Thank you! I couldn't find it hahaha appreciate it🙏🏽

[@AaronSmithDrums]

💯

[@ashleynhill3998]

Thank you so so much ❤️

[@KingSwat]

I listened to the new Russ album about 3 times the last 2 days. That joint will be on heavy replay for me most definitely!

[@ViewtifulJones954]

Fr

[@barrettloweshow]

“I can’t fake humble just cause your ass is insecure” -Kendrick Lamar

[@kaneallen3307]

Hahaha that's what's up pride

[@Aymanmalek702]

I really wish you guys started this show earlier. Every episode better than the one before🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@failfwrd]

I really appreciate Rory’s takes during this one. Him and Russ really went on a deep dive about the industry and it made for a great conversation. The album is 🔥 too.

[@andrewcradle9051]

When Rory flat out said the right message wrong messenger part I was suprised lol

[@HiddenKeyElement]

Why?

[@sweetlove9237]

Said it so real and genuine he had no choice but to respond the same way. Could’ve went wrong lol

[@gooddogreallygooddog6157]

The way russ replied surprised me too. I usually expect rappers to be insensitive.

[@kelechic.jemelumba9981]

Time stamp?

[@mfrekerara]

Russ said that about himself word for word in a different interview (breakfast club)

[@taken4granite817]

Russ put em on the spot at the end asking their favorite record off Chomp 2 😂 they were scrambling

[@dmtmediabrothers]

I mean they were all dope tho

[@designhub360customapparel]

🤣🤣

[@ricandro1354]

Blue chip and free are my favorites

[@OfficialAnFMusic]

@@designhub360customapparel kf

[@haitianballer14]

Rory and Russ should be best friends. I can see theyre sarcasm /humor fitting together

[@1000WintersMedia]

Had no idea Russ could rap like that. Dude outdid a few big names on this album

[@KindnessInvokingNetwork]

Listen to his older tracks. I been checking out his old music recently myself. He’s ALWAYS had bars, no joke. Check out t’d up & murder me. Bangers

[@kyrosheel]

Nah not really lol. Almost every feature killed him.

[@THEMADVILLAIN.]

Lol you niggas reaching

[@starvalentino]

@@KindnessInvokingNetwork his bars on "Reminder" go craaazy too

[@mcbdllc136]

Stop it get sum help

[@flyjon]

This is a phenomenal episode. Glad Rory respectfully played devil’s advocate to some of Russ’s points to give perspective and insight to two different sides of the independent grind 🔥🔥

[@ViewtifulJones954]

🔥

[@thousandgrams2305]

Best episode so far. Mad respect to Russ for the knowledge he gives to creators. Salute.

[@matthewfrancis5919]

“Probably not” 😂 got to love the love for Russ and the respect he gets from y’all always been a Russ fan I’m a fan of y’all now!

[@RicherThanIeverbeen]

Red pill Russ! Good to hear from em. His album is the hardest shit out rn

[@G.O.81]

Rory and Mal with the hands in the pockets is hilarious

[@darrelrichard5207]

Russ the guys with the plan rory &mal laying out the brick road every episode they growing an doing better an bigger. Liking the vibes

[@NIO4LIFE]

There is more money in trading bricks instead of laying them.

[@giselemoore3522]

Yo RUSS is on another level!! Been fucking with him! I’m glad people are seeing it now.

[@MoeDavinci]

Great Interview! Mal and Rory got something cookin' fasho, I see the vision wit it. Russ is dope, been listening to bruh since '15 (Too Many), Chomp 2 is much needed in today's music Meta. Lyricism that matters.

[@KillitoKortez]

This dude a walking gem dropper. His mindset is how you should approach life and your job

[@XNIATHEARTIST]

Bro that’s how I am in the studio too 😭 I’m screaming at everybody in there like “YALL DONT HEAR THIS!”

[@wlaaaaaaaaaa123]

Listened to this on the podcast app but I had to come here just to say how much I enjoyed this one guys!! Was very fun to listen to and not awkward at all!! :)

[@therealeastcoastkid]

I want to say thank you Russ!!! These jewels are motivation to keep pushing forward whether music, clothing, or business. I'm going to keep grinding and not sell out

[@Qu33nie2much]

He’s so smart and his attention to detail is fucking crazy!!! Loved this episode

[@pittsburghguy2520]

I could see Russ actually being good friends with Rory and Mal they all have similar vibes lol

[@roycardoeskelly5658]

I felt that same way like them hanging out outside of the podcast over drinks 🍸

[@rxbbieofficial]

Lmao “y’all had a laugh beef “ that’s nasty energy 😂🤣 I was over here cryin !

[@soundsbywarren]

Truly appreciate y’all for this episode! Russ always be spitting mad game and has helped me so much over the years to manifest and invest in myself and the music and can’t thanks this man enough! One of the realest, can’t wait to personally meet and thank you one day! Your a real one and a true Legend!

[@JoshuaEferighe]

Dope ass interview. Russ and Wale have the same chip on their shoulder.

[@TheGENII]

The new track with the game is actually nuts

[@marioaguilera9428]

Best track on the album in my opinion

[@kyrosheel]

Facts

[@jdmasters]

One of my favorites

[@khmao563]

I'm in my 30s and Love yall podcast and content. Feel like myself if I had a different life...doing interviews, asking questions and keeping it real. Keep up the great work 🍻🚬😉👍🏿

[@sdbrown5095]

LOL Joe was just saying he couldn't get the old guys to interview Russ

[@jetmoor1983]

I was coming for this comment lol

[@Jammalchristian99]

They doing it for clout & to get back at joe! They really don’t care about Russ 😂😂 it’s clips of them talking shit about him on the JBP

[@elninoheroe663]

@@Jammalchristian99 shut up. This was a great podcast. They genuinely cared what he said and listened to the music

[@EonSound]

Rory and Mal got a rat in their camp.

[@tamaracharese]

Y’all believe Joe’s hatin ass? 🤔🤨

[@demonicmaleficentviciously140]

Russ my dude, you don't need anyone to validate you. What makes you a great person in life isnt everything you did for validity but everything you did without it. Took me a lifetime and i can thank my dad for that one bc he never validated my efforts but Im happy of what i built without it. Be graceful and love your energy brodie!

[@Riristargurl]

I went from im watching to support to i can’t wait for y’all to drop....one of the best episode !!!

[@daaaavid4218]

This episode was a great conversation! Never the biggest Russ fan but this made me understand him a little more! Loving the content homies!!!

[@tonysierra1]

The genuine level of understanding on both ends of this conversation is truly commendable 👏

[@WhosLO2008]

Major inspiration from this interview like all Russ interviews 💯💯

[@j.powellnetwork]

That Soundcloud segment was brilliant. An insightful conversation that I haven't heard many discuss. kudos.

[@kyhxx]

. timestamp ?^

[@gooddogreallygooddog6157]

Around minute 70

[@sinamen516]

I love that yall have the live premiere feature now!! Okay Mixxy Boyz utilizing the KZbin 🍊 💰

[@kdoneseven]

Dope to just see grown people having a conversation without narratives being pushed or clout being chased👌 hope more ppl tune into Russ' music and message after this, dude been a inspiration frfr! Big up to Rory and Mal too, keep doing y'all thing!

[@itseann6950]

This interview is amazing, keep killing it y’all!

[@Intelligent370]

Definitely their best episode so far. Russ is a fun guest always

[@gabrieldoctrine]

I felt about Russ exactly how he felt about Mal.... indifferent....kinda crazy....like I like this guy but it's whatever I don't have an opinion on him....clear slate kinda vibe....dope podcast I'm going to thoroughly enjoy this one.

[@Inkirkqint]

Yesss love this. I think Kendrick co-signing keem is the newest co-sign that’s gonna work

[@jdmasters]

Yooooo super good point

[@jdmasters]

I agree with that heavy

[@christiandiordenimflo]

yee thats the only recent one

[@anita_skye4151]

The other guys "man we really gotta sit down with Russ". New Rory and Mal... hot off the press with the interview. 🔥

[@CraigThePoet]

Before this interview, I kinda/barely knew about Russ, but I’m definitely tapped in now. A lot of motivation here. This will not be my only watch-through.

[@AkeemPierre]

This has me hype! Rory and Mal Killing the game

[@ifrr8337]

Unexpectedly good guest! Good job Rors & Mal. 👏🔥

[@cloudboy2970]

favorite episode so far rory & mal !! & russ thank you bro… you a legend & anybody that doubt that is just unaware & uneducated on your comeup, your success, & talent.

[@ill-nois2282]

I see a lot of growth and self awareness in Russ. I know couple years back he came off as arrogant when he had that interview with Everyday Struggle but now he ain’t looking for that validity, he fully understands his audience and caters to them. Solid interview from Rory and Mal

[@christopherrodriguez9514]

Man that convo on not wanting ur fav artist to be happy because u wont relate is so true when it comes to my feelings on nf’s newest album/mixtape.

[@CaliBoi226]

15:35 “I’m not doing this for numbers, I’m doing this for impact and Ill music”… that is why i fuck wit Russ, cause he is mindset is just different than most rappers. Anytime i see Russ being interviewed i tap in always. Great pod, fellas.

[@jackpotjunkie]

Great episode, great interview!! Keep goin' hard Rory & Mal !!

[@CaliBoi226]

Aayyyee yooo PAUSE at the end there buddy haha. Kidding man 🤣.

[@jackpotjunkie]

@@CaliBoi226 PAUSE. Lol!

[@chrisamador17]

If y’all didn’t put this out, I wouldn’t have known about the album. ‘Preciate y’all.

[@multiplesourcesofincome7037]

Russ is really spittin on this new album

[@check2000]

Very dope interview, would like a same kinda interview with Wale. Connection between russ & rory is nuts, conversation on a higher level

[@RealTalk720]

"U look like a 7 monther" off what's your longest relationship is crazy 🤣

[@NikkoKnight703]

This dude has been my favorite for a long time

[@CWoods101]

Joe couldn't have had an episode like this with Russ due to him wanting to dominate the convo. Major shoutout to Mal n Rory for this diamond caliber episode.

[@samanthaeichhorn4319]

Joe has done an interview with Russ...

[@CWoods101]

@@samanthaeichhorn4319 yes and it wasn't as good as this.

[@samanthaeichhorn4319]

@@CWoods101 opinions are like assholes...

[@CWoods101]

@@samanthaeichhorn4319 true...and you're responding to mine. 😁

[@samanthaeichhorn4319]

@@CWoods101 i wasnt responding to your opinion i was responding to your FALSE statement... Big difference! 😂🤡

[@shanshan8113]

Usually I can't stop looking at Russ in his interviews but Rory in this interview...😏 the beard is hitting extra hard for some reason😆😆 GREAT interview btw

[@shenellrichardson4936]

Rory is fine 🤪

[@Bigdaddy-nh7mb]

His album is good, i did not know he could rap like that…. Beats/features are very good, that Ransom verse was 🔥🔥🔥

[@ricrossisaCOfakeBoss]

Plk been a problem since 134 all stars His catalog is definitely a problem Str8888 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Coti classic Plk bar 4 bar a god wit it.......

[@jusme8980]

I could listen to him talk for hours...I absolutely love it.. Genuine..Honest & inspiring. 💜🔥💯🙌

[@lizzgrey1965]

​On joes podcast today he said he wanted to interview russ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jammalchristian99]

He did interview Russ, it’s Russ biggest interview! he said he wanted to bring Russ on the podcast and these two didn’t want it now they interviewing him for clout!

[@LifeFer48]

And...he's an artist. They do a music podcast.

[@DatdudeRomez]

He had Russ on pull up though

[@jmoneyicetea6038]

@@Jammalchristian99 If they did it for clout and your watching….

[@Jammalchristian99]

@@jmoneyicetea6038 it’s a good interview, doesn’t mean it’s not for clout! How old are you 😂😂

[@darryllarsen8924]

Yooo, this interview man!!! This shit here shook me to my core. This is the best hip hop interview I've ever heard. Russ sold himself so well. I've got to go cop his music now. This man is incredible!!! That sound Voicemail is now on my constant play. Goddamn. This may be the realest rapper in the game because he's not faking. He's just him. That's all he wants to be. Russ. Fuck the hate, this man is incredible and we need more of him.

[@realone8155]

Damn u swallowed n everything bro

[@brandons2079]

This was a good look for all the guys.

[@B.Phrase06]

That SoundCloud festival sounds CRAZYYYY they need to scoop that idea up asap 🔥🔥🔥

[@PenttonUnelmastaUra]

Literally my fav podcast x my fav artist, beyond blessed.

[@furyofgad9705]

Russ has grown tremendously. Respect to how far he’s come.

[@thesauce8092]

After this interview Russ is one of my favorites artist love how he thinks and talk about self improvement and believing your self thank you Russ

[@jdmasters]

Agreed

[@quazg9836]

That boy Rory is gooood at what he does.

[@altongreen9213]

Russ always been 🔥 social media just created a bandwagon to hate on certain artists, same goes for Wale. Both provide quality music

[@mariosplanet3059]

big facts

[@elputazoavisa]

You’re right, the difference is wale still comes off as egotistical.

[@altongreen9213]

@@elputazoavisa Definitely respect your opinion. I feel as though sometimes artists feel as though their art isn’t appreciated and may display their emotions from lack of acknowledgment. Who do you feel is underrated in the game today?

[@Chantalan]

Bro fuck yeah this interview was it definitely hope there's a part 2 & Chomp 2 was amazing.

[@chronicgold6821]

Bro's energy is on a different level

[@volcano23]

Listening to this project straight because of this interview 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@PurpleLionRs]

This "interview" was way better than the last one. Chick was weird.

[@stilld.r.e.1308]

She was weird as f$$k. Poor lady. Episode was unwatchable

[@paultaylor3841]

😂😂😂😂

[@esquirethy3rd]

The co host was acting weird. Go off last pod. Silence is key

[@briand3029]

Foreal she was too into her appearance if you know what I mean. Trying to come off extremely thoughtful and such

[@shadowroses5]

@@stilld.r.e.1308 XD it was watchable but defo cringe AF, she was a little much but it was handled well!

[@robertbaconii]

I'm a huge fan of the russ interviews and like some songs heavy. Dope guy.

[@najeebe5798]

This was a really good interview guys keep up the good work !

[@jr_3232]

I’m currently 45 min in and these convos are 🔥🔥🔥🔥.. I fuck with Rory and mal heavy. Always dope content but I gotta get back with episode lol

[@brandonbuck5908]

Chomp 2 is a great album!

[@thegingerburpeesguy5596]

russ always be dropping gems 💎

[@Ghetsome]

Garbage gems

[@Zerrific]

Yesssss such a good episode!! I love how y’all allow the person to shine beyond their artistry! Great job guys!

[@JoseFlores-ey9ls]

Really enjoyed this episode n def need russ on again next time longer let it go shit was so on point

[@TALKSICK1]

Living Legend #RUSS ! BELIEVED IN HIS SELF WHEN NO ONE ELSE DID......💯✔💪

[@unvrsebeats7405]

“Oh are we recording right now?” Fam yes

[@ToreezyTheLoc]

😂😂

[@avantelondon6563]

Would love for y’all guys to go on wine & weed podcast man!

[@BThatDope]

Mal question about getting with a “higher class woman” was real 😂😂😂

[@miguelmuchacho4819]

This the best episode by Rory and mal it’s not even close great job fellas 👍👍👍

[@crookedstilo]

Every independent artist should learn from what Russ has done. The man is a genius. 🙌🏽🔥

[@philfoe551]

Step 1: Have a rich investment banker father. Step 2: Have them invest millions and create a career. Step 3: Attack people and cause beef for clout, then play the victim. Step 4: Hire goons with more of dads money to beat up all the people who responded to his shit talking. Step 5: to seek validity, do a hip hop album or two with hella features Genius? Anyone with that kind of money can do that.

[@dang7748]

@@philfoe551 imagine writing a whole paragraph about a dude you don’t even know 😂

[@mcbdllc136]

@@philfoe551 this is why I thought ppl were saying he was corny

[@xchxmpagnepxpix]

Just got around to listening to this and I regret that it took me this long. Amazing conversation. Russ is a cool, down to earth dude, fucks wit him heavy now.

[@IndigoUchiha26]

Another fire episode of new Rory & Mal 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@l0veecee]

LOVE RUSS and so excited for this! Haven’t even watched it yet. ⭐️

[@MrTiger0423]

There’s a big difference in being competitive in rap and being combative, as far as what they spoke on at the toor of the pod.