NEW SAN MARTIN EXPLORER 36 First Look & Quick Comparison With SMITHS EVEREST!

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2 жыл бұрын

The new and improved San Martin Explorer homage is here and its here to stay! Incredible little watch with so mucho to give for the money.
Where to buy San Martin:
watchdives.com/?ref=rkw5xea5
--Things I forgot to mention are further down below in the specs--
#smithseverest #sanmartinexplorer #explorer #explorerwatch #homage
SPECS San Martin Explorer
Model: SN0021-G-B1
Movement: PT5000/SW200 [automatic mechanical movement]
316L solid stainless steel
36mm bezel
37mm diameter
lug to lug 45.5mm
thickness 11.3mm
20mm band width
Top hat sapphire crystal, AR coating
polished stainless steel bezel
369 Dial, Fashion Light Blue and Black, 3D Hour Markers
classic mercedes luminous hands
BGW-9 blue light, hands and markers
Screw-down crown, with hexagonal Saint Martin logo
Threaded Case Back, Brushed Process
316L solid stainless steel bracelet, 20mm x 16mm
New folding clasp with safety, with 3D Hexagonal logo
Water resistant: 10 bars = 100 meters
Weight: about 125g
SPECS Smiths Everest
Case
• 316L stainless steel, brushed top with polished sides
• Diameter 36mm, 39.3mm including crown
• Lug to lug height 43.5mm
• 11.3mm to the top of the hi-dome sapphire crystal
• Lug spacing 20mm
• Anti-magnetic 20,000A/m with anti-magnetic movement cover
• Water Resistance 10ATM/100 metres/330 feet
• 140 grammes including bracelet
• Screw back, screw down crown, drilled lugs
Dial
• Satin black with gilt minute track and logo
• Triangle, numbers and indices SuperLuminova X1-C3
Hands
• Gilt Mercedes hands
• Luminous: SuperLuminova X1-C3
Crystal
• Hi-dome sapphire with anti-reflective coating on the underside , 30.4mm diameter x 2.5mm thick
Movement
• Miyota 9039, 24 jewel automatic, 28,800 BPH
Bracelet
• Solid link stainless steel bracelet tapering from 20mm to 16mm with screwed links, solid end links and signed push-button clasp

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@V0ltron
@V0ltron 2 жыл бұрын
It's easier to get the Rolex than it is to get a Smith's Everest.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that is probably right 🤣
@thomazzzzi
@thomazzzzi Жыл бұрын
There are available sundays
@slightlyprofessional
@slightlyprofessional Жыл бұрын
@@thomazzzzi Every Sunday??
@archievthapa3593
@archievthapa3593 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree !!!
@Kiddomike
@Kiddomike 7 ай бұрын
I got my 124270 first before the PRS-25.
@georgepolyakov7732
@georgepolyakov7732 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice review! Keep up the good work. Those are some cool shots of the watch, I really like when you do shots from further out like with your hand in pocket and arms crossed etc, really gives a better idea of how the watch wears. I ended up ordering one of these, can't wait for it to come!
@clash79
@clash79 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned not liking the Smith’s clasp, but didn’t mention how amazing the SM one is. I have this watch, and am still amazed how amazing the clasp that San Martin uses is
@johnmuthan286
@johnmuthan286 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your review on this watch. Thanks for such good job.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! My pleasure!. I will get deeper on this watch the san martin.. it deserves a solo review, wanted to compare it first because maybe could help people decide witch one to get better.
@johnmuthan286
@johnmuthan286 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndySTWT totally agree. To be honest I was eyeing the Smith for a while but the difficulty in getting it and the printed indexes just pushed me away. I bought the tisell last year to scratch the hitch, but its 39mm size didn't do it for me. I was waiting for SM to come up with one, it took them long and multiple intents but I believe they finally got it perfect to this time. I think this SM 37mm explorer will complement to the perfection my ironwatch OP homage.
@AgentJ415
@AgentJ415 Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a SM submariner homage out of curiosity. I've been seeing a lot of praise for SM lately in my review searches for brands. Coming from owning Seiko and quartz Grand Seiko I was on the fence. But once I got the SM in hand I was impressed. The logo I'm still on the fence with as it's kind of big and takes up a lot of space, but the overall quality, weight, finishing is impressive. Keeping time well after a week now. If this is the quality you get from SM it's going to be hard to not consider another one in the future. I've been eyeballing the Smiths and the Longines conquest and hydro conquest. The SM is looking like a nice option as it has thrown it's hat in the ring now.
@jeffp2966
@jeffp2966 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, from a new subscriber. I had spotted this just prior to your review/comparison, but based on your video, which was one of the first, I have now placed my order for the black version!
@robdavelaw89
@robdavelaw89 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this review dude!
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for the support! Its my pleasure, this is why i do my videos! Hope you find it helpfull
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 2 жыл бұрын
One of the earliest reviews on the newest San Martin explorer model. Smiths may got the proportion right, but San Martin has creative design twist with applied indices. That's how a homage watch should be done, taking classic design with different execution .
@andregabrielsten3390
@andregabrielsten3390 2 жыл бұрын
"Creative design twist" as in straight up copy of Rolex? 😂 Both watches are homages of the same watch line, only Smith's copies an old version (Rolex 1016), while San Martin copies the modern Explorers.
@agustinenriquez352
@agustinenriquez352 Жыл бұрын
@@andregabrielsten3390 I wouldn't say it copies a modern explorer. I think it's more of a 1016 version with applied indices.
@BeerHombre
@BeerHombre 10 ай бұрын
@@agustinenriquez352 agreed
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks.
@sleepinglysithia
@sleepinglysithia 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the black dial San Martin with PT5000. I can't wait to get it. This will be my first San Martin. You have the only video of this particular version with black dial that I can find. I've watched your video 10+ times. I for one would love it if you made more videos of it if you wanted to. A strap show would be cool or comparisons with other watches.
@jeffp2966
@jeffp2966 2 жыл бұрын
I second this. No other reviews on the black version, so a comparison with some of your other watches would be great.
@WristWatching
@WristWatching 2 жыл бұрын
I've been eyeing the Smiths for more than a year now, but this San Martin really looks much better and doesn't come with the buying hassle that the Smiths does. Definitely want one in my collection now. Great review - subbed!
@phmwu7368
@phmwu7368 2 жыл бұрын
Both are " Made in China " 🤔
@joelf5565
@joelf5565 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The San Martin looks way better. The Smith looks like a cheap watch.
@ThiHambrook
@ThiHambrook 15 күн бұрын
Thank u 🎉👍u answered my questions
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 15 күн бұрын
I’m glad I can help
@rickybobbysdriver555
@rickybobbysdriver555 2 жыл бұрын
I attempted to buy a smiths last year but I wasn't fast enough. I then purchased the San Martin 39mm, and I have been thoroughly impressed with it. If you can look past the logo issues then it's definitely an amazing watch.
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech 2 жыл бұрын
Is the San Martin Hexagon Logo applied in metal?
@rickybobbysdriver555
@rickybobbysdriver555 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArniesTech I got the name is script. I would guess the logo is applied.
@deanwaller8283
@deanwaller8283 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickybobbysdriver555 I don't mind the script on the vintage style watches...but that applied hex logo is a real eyesore
@archievthapa3593
@archievthapa3593 Жыл бұрын
Superb review !!!
@milehiaviation
@milehiaviation 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why no one likes the Hex logo. Would it be how I would design a logo for them? No, but it looks bar better than the boring plain print, or the cursive print. They took the time to design a logo to represent their brand, and the applied version is actually finished very very nicely. Take a look at it under a loupe. It made me like it even more.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
agreed totally
@GabrielSilverstein
@GabrielSilverstein Жыл бұрын
What you are saying is correct, however I think that the SM Hex logo takes up too much prominence when on the dial. In that setting it directs your eye to the logo, which battles for visual space on the face. The triangle on top is supposed to anchor your eye to the design but it "fights" for attention with the logo.
@24hourgmtchannel64
@24hourgmtchannel64 2 жыл бұрын
San MArtin smartly stepped up with this model when the Smiths Everest PRS-25 is nearly impossible to buy new. The thing is Smiths has some Everest history bragging rights as well as the explorer 1016 although the brand is no longer under the orginal ownership.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thanks for the comment
@jlg395
@jlg395 Жыл бұрын
I never understand the whole "impossible to buy new" complaint about Timefactors. Make an account, have your credit card ready, and don't hesitate when the Timefactors website opens. I've ordered from them three times, and all three times I've received the watch I wanted (PRS-25, PRS-57 monopusher, and the Air Ministry). Stop whining and just type faster.
@24hourgmtchannel64
@24hourgmtchannel64 Жыл бұрын
@jlg395 just checked and infortunately, the black dial PRS-25 is still showing sold out.
@BeerHombre
@BeerHombre 10 ай бұрын
@@jlg395 you are the exception to the rule. Be appreciative instead of being an ass and kick others while they're down
@igorschutz
@igorschutz 2 жыл бұрын
I never saw the Smiths Everest personally, but from the video, and from my taste, it seems to be more beautiful, but the San Martin seems to be a better-made watch. The San Martin has the advantage of being easily acquired, in addition to being cheaper, while the Smiths has a waiting list. I ended up getting the San Martin and I don't regret it. It's the ultimate Explorer homage for me.
@AgentJ415
@AgentJ415 Жыл бұрын
This video sold me on the SM also 😎
@paulboes7649
@paulboes7649 Жыл бұрын
Smiths does not have a waitinglist. You have to quick at the openingminutes, about once every two weeks. Smiths is well made, I know, because I own an Everest.
@maiabrittany
@maiabrittany Жыл бұрын
I don't think the SM is a better built watch than the Smiths. Have you seen one in the flesh?
@glaucolelli2583
@glaucolelli2583 9 ай бұрын
Of course it’s better is the shameless copy of the rolex
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 2 жыл бұрын
I like the pocket shots at the end.
@TimeForAnotherWatch
@TimeForAnotherWatch 2 жыл бұрын
Both great looking watches, it would be a really tough choice! I've not owned a Smiths yet bt I've got 4 San Martins and they offer great quality for the price. New subscriber here, enjoyed the video, cheers!
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Heyy thank you vary much for the sub and the comment! I bet you have a great collection of san martins!
@Mr-Safology
@Mr-Safology 2 жыл бұрын
I own San Martin (not this model) and Smith's watches. I even have vintage Smith's watches, which made me drawn towards Smith's Everest being more suited, to me. However, the San Martin brand is incredible. The only Asian company, apart from Seiko, I am confident in collecting beautiful timepieces from. I only just recently found out about their Rolex Bubble back California style watch. Incredible. I'm mind blown. Literally. Great quality 👌🏼
@anthonysmith2982
@anthonysmith2982 2 жыл бұрын
Nice upload. The 1st time I've watched a video of yours. I have quite large wrists so have both the Tisell 39mm Explorer 214270 MkII homage (Miyota 90S5) and the San Martin 39mm Explorer with 'old radium' lume. The Tisell was one of my favourite watches, despite being a reasonably humble timepiece. I bought the Tisell because I was considering picking up a 214270 MkII, but saw no need. The Tisell is that good (for the ridiculously low $ at least). I now prefer the San Martin. I've gone custom dial both times I've bought San Martin. It's a good experience designing ones own 'brand' and logo. With the market going bonkers, so many people buying solely due to brand recognition alone and the general lack of availability it's refreshing to be able to buy such simple watches of such good build quality so cheaply. The longer I'm in the hobby the less I care about 'luxury" timepieces and the more I appreciate the law of diminishing returns.
@shahremhassan2841
@shahremhassan2841 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Heeey thanks! Cheers mate!
@scollyutube
@scollyutube 2 жыл бұрын
Lume looks more matched on the black SM in this video than the Cyan one. The hands and markers are different shades on the Tiffany coloured ones. I wish the SM had springbar holes like the Smith does too.
@patrickhartmann1540
@patrickhartmann1540 2 ай бұрын
On year 3 with the San Martin with PT5000. I wear it weekly and it is still rocking. It’s a great watch for my 6.5inch wrist. Actually hard to find these days in black
@gonzalograjeda7389
@gonzalograjeda7389 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Andy! I recently discovered your channel and I like your style of videos. Both awesome watches. I like that the San Martin is a mashup of a 1016 and a modern Explorer, having applied indices but in a vintage font. The Tiffany blue looks interesting as well, but I don’t think it’ll be timeless at all in contrast with the black one. I also prefer the bracelet on the SM.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for sharing your opinion! Im glad you like my style of videos! Cheers!
@mattinmalaga
@mattinmalaga 3 ай бұрын
You never know, maybe someone has climbed to the summit of Everest wearing a San Martin!! Just ordered mine based on your review after spending quite a while undecided - thanks for helping me make my mind up👌🏻
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! haha imagine that! i would like to see that!
@timefliesby-jleo474
@timefliesby-jleo474 2 жыл бұрын
I do really like the dial and the Gilt of the smiths better though!
@roybrolsbeak
@roybrolsbeak 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Im still doubting if i want it with the text logo or the one in this video. What is your opinion..does it look too busy with the hexagon?
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech 2 жыл бұрын
The San Martin looks AMAZING 🙏🙏🙏
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
It is amaxing
@SaSpursFan
@SaSpursFan 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t this not the original smith brand. I believe a company bought the name and is operating under new ownership so that whole heritage argument is to be taken with a grain of salt
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
That is super true… but still the name of smiths has some heft to it but yeah your not wrong at all haha thanks for pyur argument
@roybrolsbeak
@roybrolsbeak 2 жыл бұрын
yes totally agree. lets say they can abuse the brands heritage to ask a higher price.
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 2 жыл бұрын
the name was bought and used by Timefactors.
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 2 жыл бұрын
@@roybrolsbeak They go for even higher on the resale market. The website prices are pretty reasonable
@Dylboz
@Dylboz Жыл бұрын
Just the head-to-head comparison I was looking for! I do like the heritage of Smith's, but the green dial and Tudor-style snowflake handset available for the SM just beats it in every regard. I do like the brown/champagne dial available from Smith's in their Commando, tho.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Im glad I can help my man!
@joostkiefte7683
@joostkiefte7683 2 жыл бұрын
SN020-G-B2.... I have the cyan blue version (aka Tiffany blue) and it is, indeed, awesome. I think the Smiths' gilded hands have a slight edge over the San Martin, but it's not a dealbreaker for the SM. And then again the SM's applied numerals and indexes are so beautiful that they trump the Smiths' printed ones. What I resent in a way is that you cannot just shop for the Smiths but that every time it's a gamble whether or not you will be granted the privilege by Eddie to order one the next time he sees fit to open up his shop.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@anthonysmith2982
@anthonysmith2982 2 жыл бұрын
I see the Eddie / Timefactors buying situation differently. Yeah, the buying process is a pain in the arse, however I respect the reason why. I know for a fact that he has rejected more than one lucrative offers to sell the brand because he does not want what he primarily does (extremely faithful re-issues of rare and expensive mostly military issued pieces ect.) to become too commercialised. Yeah, it impacts us as potential customers but I like it that he's making watches as an enthusiast for enthusiasts. He's also getting pretty old. I find the way he protects his brand from cash grabbers admirable. cheers.
@kurtcreed1
@kurtcreed1 2 жыл бұрын
Beste Joost, wat heb jij geinvesteerd in het horloge en heb je in NL nog BTW moeten betalen voor het horloge?
@clinttugaff7827
@clinttugaff7827 Жыл бұрын
I really like the San Martin watch. My only small niggle is the push release of the clasp are so big. Like whisper with wings.
@LWIN729
@LWIN729 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful watch and beautiful price! 👍👍👍
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@jazzman5598
@jazzman5598 2 жыл бұрын
There is a vid on YT that describes customer service @ Smiths. Not good. I want an ALL Chinese watch. I have a chronograph (the 1963 Pilot’s watch) but that’s it so……..I’ll run over to Ali X & check the San Martin w the PT 5000. Fine revue! Thanks
@thegorn
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Both great pieces. I give it to the San Martin. Imagine that with the gold giit dial. Would be the best of both worlds.
@kjstewys
@kjstewys Жыл бұрын
I own the Explorer 124270 and the minute hand doesn’t reach the minute track on it either. Assuming that’s why the San Martin does the same. Doesn’t mean you can’t dislike it, just may add some color as to why they did it haha great review! My smiths commando is arriving today and can’t wait to compare it to the explorer.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Ohh nice to see this I actually want to do a comparison this to with the new Rolex exp 36
@peregr1nbr
@peregr1nbr 4 ай бұрын
This vídeo made me buy the San Martin. What a watch!
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 4 ай бұрын
heeey! nice! how you feel about the san martin! Do tell!
@sleepinglysithia
@sleepinglysithia 2 жыл бұрын
Does the Smiths bracelet fit the San Martin by chance? I may be in the minority but I like the rivets. I see Smiths sell the bracelet separately.
@moncherias
@moncherias 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video and review. I would like to kindly ask you for some feedback / guidance in terms of the San Martin’s movement. Ali Express offers and option to upgrade to a Sellita SW300 movement. Do you think the upgrade is worth the additional price. Is it even worth upgrading? I greatly appreciate kindly your opinion and information.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah please write me on instagram! I could explain easier there by sending voice notes! @andy.stwt and thank you for commenting and looking for my opinion means alot
@altamushg
@altamushg 2 жыл бұрын
I wish San Martin would make this in a 39/40mm with the applied indexes. I’m a bigger guy and I wouldn’t be able to pull off a 37. It just looks so good.
@roybrolsbeak
@roybrolsbeak 2 жыл бұрын
just ask them on aliexpress... if they get enough requests its easy for them to make because they already have all the elements to make it work.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
yeah maybe one day! They actually listen to consumers.
@tonybabdos17
@tonybabdos17 2 жыл бұрын
They just did it mate. Go check it out 😉
@goldenbgs2009
@goldenbgs2009 2 жыл бұрын
They have 39mm I just bought it.
@eugenevedensky6071
@eugenevedensky6071 2 жыл бұрын
Ended up getting the tiffany version for $247 in the Ali sale today. Hell of a deal.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE! Congrats! Wear it in good health!
@andrei-cosmin.popa85
@andrei-cosmin.popa85 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious... what's your logic for having the minute hand reach the end of the dial instead of going right under the seconds markers?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i love long hands that gos all the way to the edge od the dial but i maybe was too picky on this one haha … it has no reason it looks good how it is also though
@miss2369
@miss2369 2 жыл бұрын
Both look great but I like the SM bracelet mora. I do not like the screws coming out of the smiths. This is my favorite watch style and on straps they also look amazing. Price point and history watchmaker Smiths wins. All that said I think the SM looks awesome for the price
@pdarocha1970
@pdarocha1970 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone mentioned already, but the PT5000 movement, and the Selita SW200, are both clones of the ETA 2824.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Yes that is really true! Thanks!
@yusufbest4475
@yusufbest4475 Жыл бұрын
Are they good clones?
@SteveFWatches
@SteveFWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Both look fantastic but I prefer the bracelet on the San Martin
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Totally Agree!
@dfergiedf
@dfergiedf 2 жыл бұрын
The smiths bracelet should taper down it doesn’t look right all the same width! Also what size is the dial on the SM ? Thanks
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin makes great watches, I just wish they created their own designs since they're capable of producing quality parts
@theannouncer5538
@theannouncer5538 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think they are just going with the “whatever sells” approach for now tho
@shinraorg
@shinraorg 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin hands down, just ordered it after I got the "BB36"( SN021-G-B3), It hasn't come off my wrist.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! 🤘nice nice the bb36 and the San Martin too
@mrautomatech2329
@mrautomatech2329 Жыл бұрын
So how are you liking the San Martin explorer version?
@korling99
@korling99 2 жыл бұрын
I really lke the new model with snowflake hands.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! The sub one and the bb 36 alike
@favoritethings3065
@favoritethings3065 Жыл бұрын
Great review….you make a strong case for the San Martin; I also was one of those who couldn’t buy a Smiths Everest because I ran out of time….very lame buying experience. What is the third watch on the upper left of your video?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
That one is the WMT BARRACUDA its an explorer 1016 homage very cool patina
@giovannibusato9815
@giovannibusato9815 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same smiths Everest and Is Amazing. I'm no more looking at other watches since I bought It. The San Martin Is nice but since Timefactors made a 20 to 16 mm bracelet and the no-date movement adjustement Is perfect.
@troynasello2085
@troynasello2085 2 жыл бұрын
Both the sellita sw200 & the pt5000 are clones of the eta2824. So both copy eta. As does the stp1-11. The patent ran out on the eta2824, that's why so many company's copy it, but it's legal. Seagull has a clone as well.
@villagranvicent
@villagranvicent 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, I prefer the SM because it looks better made, with more attention to detail and it is available! But man you move the watches so much and so close to the camera that gets dizzy.
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
The San Martin is 36.5, actually.... The Smiths is 10 grammes heavier than the SM. The Rolex' hands are proportioned exactly like the San Martin, so it stays very close to the watch it homages. I want both: the Smiths' glossy dial, the gilt hands and the rivet bracelet are very, very desirable.
@whodattt9850
@whodattt9850 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video! I must ask though, what is the watch you got up in the top left corner there?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Thats the WMT BARACUDA is also a rolex explorer 1016 homage
@NABROWNEBMX
@NABROWNEBMX 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as if the Smith's "heritage" was bought and doesn't entirely capture the spirit of the previous brand that did the expedition... I feel like they're on the same level when it comes to having "prestige"
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
That is very true.. good point!
@morgan.enfield
@morgan.enfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review I was waiting for. I prefer the vintage look of the smith, looks like more of a 1016 but hate this riveted bracelet and too much a hassle to buy. On the San Martin I don't like these applied indices (too modern) and hate their logo even if I live in the hexagonal country.
@jesustijerinardz.3811
@jesustijerinardz.3811 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin gives you the option to buy the same watch with "San Martin" name printed instead of that logo. You might like it :)
@morgan.enfield
@morgan.enfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesustijerinardz.3811 Yes I know but with applied indices I don't like. Give me a Smith dial with San Martin bracelet and price I can buy with no hassle.
@eliocampesi2533
@eliocampesi2533 2 жыл бұрын
I've ordered the SM in black with 4 micro adjustment buckle...
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent great choice!!! enjoy iT!
@cedarcanoe
@cedarcanoe 2 жыл бұрын
The San Martin movement choice is something I don’t get (PT-5000 is unsure quality, SW is too expensive for a Chinese watch). They should opt for a Miyota 9000-series instead. Cheap, proven and super good quality.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
I agree maybe its cheaper for them? Idk but still good movement, haven’t have any problems with the pt5000
@asura2545
@asura2545 Жыл бұрын
One is the "true" explorer (real heritage), the other is the objectively better watch. The hobby is about the heart, so a great matchup
@dieselboi91
@dieselboi91 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin 100%. I used to be a huge watch snob. I didn’t even look at Chinese watches thinking they were absolute crap. All I cared about was brand and great heritage behind the brand. Now I still appreciate heritage but I now appreciate any brands making incredible quality watches which also includes Chinese watches. I ordered this San Martin with the SW200 just over the weekend and awaiting for it to be shipped out to me. I’m absolutely thrilled and excited to receive it. I just wish it came with the newer 4 micro adjust clasp.
@igorschutz
@igorschutz 2 жыл бұрын
You could have asked SM to send you the watch with the 'old' clasp. I did it, and my watch came with it.
@chrisjct2095
@chrisjct2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@igorschutz what's the difference in the clasp?
@igorschutz
@igorschutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjct2095 the old clasp has 4 holes for microadjustment, while the new clasp has only 2 holes.
@chrisjct2095
@chrisjct2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@igorschutz odd.. I will ask for it thanks
@jasonodell79er
@jasonodell79er Жыл бұрын
How do like the sw200? I am seriously thinking of getting this. If the finishing is as nice as it seems to be....how could i not get a sterile dial with sw200. Black or blue....either one. Please tell me the quality isnt shitty. Thank you.
@larrysolien9541
@larrysolien9541 2 жыл бұрын
Andy, great job! I like the San Martin better , cause to proportions look better to me and it a modern homage interpretation of the Rolex Explorer. The Smith Everest has a lot of charm with it gild dial and hands adding the vintage touch.
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 2 жыл бұрын
The newer Smiths have a push button clasp and mine has AR coating
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Im glad to hear that! I love when they improve watches!
@Lion_ofJudah
@Lion_ofJudah 2 жыл бұрын
I wait for the nh38 mvmnt or similar...:)
@yusufbest4475
@yusufbest4475 Жыл бұрын
Well, just find out that the smiths have anti magnetism which is a good value proposition.. but Im not keen on look alike watches and the mercedes hands so I got myself a falcon 3 instead which is keeping good time and is awesome in its comfort and aesthetics.. Im thinking now maybe it would be even greater with the anti magnetism but so far, thats not an issue.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thats the one from Lorier right! GREAT BUY! And incredible brand! Im in the look to buy a lorier watch my self! Congrats!
@a_commisso77
@a_commisso77 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t decide which to get. This video sound help haha
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Haha it is just a matter of style and whether you need heritage in your watches or history or not
@a_commisso77
@a_commisso77 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndySTWT I love the smiths but last time I tried to buy one it sold out in a minute. Not worth the hassle to be honest with you.
@blackcatsarenopussies
@blackcatsarenopussies 9 ай бұрын
This San Maetin Explorer or the Railmaster. Would you review them side by side?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 8 ай бұрын
Uuuff tougher!! I would like to do that! I will try to get one into the channel
@Jstatham1979
@Jstatham1979 2 жыл бұрын
I briefly owned the Smiths. It wore so small to me; I had to sell it. Glad you’re enjoying yours though.
@jonieder50
@jonieder50 2 жыл бұрын
I had the smiths as well. I didnt like the case and face but i really liked the size. Wish SM was 35-36 instead of 36-37 ...
@roybrolsbeak
@roybrolsbeak 2 жыл бұрын
Had it and just didnt find it very special. And the green lume annoyed me
@chrisjct2095
@chrisjct2095 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonieder50 get bigger wrists
@jonieder50
@jonieder50 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjct2095 touché :D
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjct2095 You can’t change your wrist size
@mraymanTube
@mraymanTube 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin knocks it out of the park!
@keithcollier9320
@keithcollier9320 2 жыл бұрын
Just a word of advice. Slow your movements down a bit. We watch the video to see the watch. You move it around so much, it’s hard to see the details. And it keeps blurring when you move it in and out.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback keith! I will be changing that! Cheers! Snd thanks for commenting!
@r4faelcampos793
@r4faelcampos793 11 ай бұрын
Hey dude, what do you think about pt5000 ? I have seen many reviews where the sound is horrible when hand wound. Is nh35 better?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 11 ай бұрын
I think is a great movement. I have my explorer sanmartin homage with this movement and it has been incredible. Yes it sounds loud but the movement it self is just a workhorse
@the_9ent
@the_9ent 2 жыл бұрын
Both are amazing. I’d have to lean towards Smiths. Just wish it had some AR coating.
@vvvhhhhhbb
@vvvhhhhhbb 2 жыл бұрын
It does gave AR coating. Just received mine 3 days ago. 4th generation with dual release clasp. Stunning. He is showing 3rd generation here.
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 2 жыл бұрын
Mine has it
@Mr-Safology
@Mr-Safology 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased Smith's Everest a year ago, and it has AR coating. There's a blue reflection in certain angles, which is stunning. 👌🏼
@bicep1239
@bicep1239 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin has a version with Sellita SW200 movement for roughly the same price as the Smith's. Swiss movement, applied indices? No competition.
@Cohen.the.Worrier
@Cohen.the.Worrier 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great review. However, two holes make one micro-adjust. 🧐
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
great point!, you can now purchase with your watch the better clasp with 6 micro adjustments ! So thats a relief
@danielfenderson7213
@danielfenderson7213 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to this exact San Martin model?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed 6,413.00 MXN$ 33% Off | San Martin Men Luxury Watch 36mm 369 Dial Explore Climbing Series Fashion Couples Sport Watch Unisex Automatic Mechanical 10Bar a.aliexpress.com/_mtT4QBY
@davidsonviray1403
@davidsonviray1403 Жыл бұрын
Why i feel like the hands and the hour markers color are not the same? On the san martin?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
They are exactly the same color no variation what so ever
@Brightpathos
@Brightpathos 2 жыл бұрын
I think Smiths is by far the better choice because of their history with being used on real Everest Expeditions but excellent video comparing the 2
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel! Thanks for commenting! And thats true thats why i have the 2 haha can’t decide which one is best ! Haha
@biltong3470
@biltong3470 Жыл бұрын
Do you like watches or watch companies?
@Brightpathos
@Brightpathos Жыл бұрын
@@biltong3470 Between 2 watches that look almost exactly alike I would prefer to own the one by a company with an interesting history to it. Also a Smiths retains its value better than a San Martin and some models are good investments (Smiths Everest Aventurine Dial as an example).
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
The San Martin is so good, the only thing I dont like about it is the Branding on the dial, I wish it was done more like the Smiths
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
@@AndySTWT The devil is always in he details
@hugoherrera4504
@hugoherrera4504 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, also smiths customer service is not the best,I have the mathey tissot Explorer homage and I like that one,I have to say the San Martin looks better
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@watchalot919
@watchalot919 2 жыл бұрын
They both have pros and cons, but I would go for the SM, especially as the Smith's costs so much more
@wristcandy5451
@wristcandy5451 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin's best by far
@WatchesnguitarsDK
@WatchesnguitarsDK Жыл бұрын
I wish the San Martin had the same dimensions as the Smiths. Shorter lug to lug and actually 36 mm case.
@bfair6284
@bfair6284 2 жыл бұрын
This watch is not USD$250, it's USD $326 RIGHT NOW.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, i forgot to say that i got this one with a discount! At the time! But still a great price!
@adamw7411
@adamw7411 2 жыл бұрын
San Martin on ali express costs about 340 and not 250. Where do you I get it for 250?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry my bad i forgot that got it at a sale
@musik4u343
@musik4u343 2 жыл бұрын
Great review but u have the pricing wrong on the san martin...it's like 310 in most stores. If it was 250...id buy 2 lol
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
yeah my bad! i got it on a sale for their new years, i forgot to mention! Thank you for bring it up!
@1SaG
@1SaG Жыл бұрын
What this SM (and some of their other models) really, really needs is a glossy/lacquered black dial. Those matte ones are ok I suppose for vintage and faux aged stuff, but on more modern looking watches, a deep black dial looks just so much more premium. Especially when you're out in the sun where those matte ones look like a grainy, dark grey and almost ugly.
@ghekolosh
@ghekolosh 9 ай бұрын
Would you say that the Smiths looks better in the sun? Is the black dial better? Thank you.
@sreekumar1287
@sreekumar1287 2 жыл бұрын
Cool watches bro... build quality is better on San Martin eventhough less pricy
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 2 жыл бұрын
They’re both about the same in quality, maybe slightly better on the SM
@sleepinglysithia
@sleepinglysithia 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not seeing the San Martin for $250 as you mention in the video. I see $326.20 for the PT5000 version and $456.40 for the SW200 version. Am I missing something?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
I got it in a sale before their new years in china, sorry for the confusion, but they are having a lot of sales throughout the year ill wait till then, but still $326 its a good price
@sleepinglysithia
@sleepinglysithia 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndySTWT Ah that makes sense. Thank you for the info
@hootonhoot
@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen San Martin discounted with sales compared to the other Ali Express sellers - will definitely keep a better lookout!
@kobe5rings
@kobe5rings 2 жыл бұрын
@@hootonhoot they are always discounted. Usually $3 dollars off every $30 you spend also ali coupons and store coupons. I copped the SM BB58 from $300+ for around $230. Just make sure to look for the alicoupons. Those are the ones that will cut a big chunk off the price. Check reddit when its time for the annual sales for help
@Snek03
@Snek03 2 жыл бұрын
What is the reference on this San Martin please? I don’t see a 36mm explorer with applied markers on their website.
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Let me help you mate
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
6,495.17 MXN$ 31% Off | San Martin Men Luxury Watch 36mm 369 Dial Explore Climbing Series Fashion Couples Sport Watch Unisex Automatic Mechanical 10Bar a.aliexpress.com/_mLIezAE
@Snek03
@Snek03 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndySTWT Thanks!
@steven2809
@steven2809 2 жыл бұрын
Every time you said 'incredible' I took a drink and now I'm pissed.......🤪
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
😅😂🤣 jajaja i will have to play that game too!
@AndSendMe
@AndSendMe 7 ай бұрын
If you are really drawn to the 1016, don't buy an homage until someone gets it right. The design in all its proportions has been out of production for more than 30 years, so the only reason why makers of 'homages' keep getting it wrong is because they are just riding on the 1016s coattails as a marketing ploy. If we hold out for correct, we will finally get the elegant awesome slice of the olden days we want. Meanwhile no Everest or San Martin, no Armida or Mathey-Tissot or Addiesdive, no old Incipios. Hold out for the full package, and let the manufacturers know it!
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment! You have a point! I think too that the smiths it the best pic
@AndSendMe
@AndSendMe 7 ай бұрын
@@AndySTWT What I'm trying to get across is that if the center of gravity for your interest is the 1016, there is no best, they are all fails at capturing the magic, and the Smiths is proportionally at least as bad as any of them. 🙂 On the other hand if you just plain like the Smiths without reference to anything else, more power to you.
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 2 жыл бұрын
I tried getting the Smith's 2 years ago. I found it impossible to get. I prefer a 37mm size, so for me, its SM.
@goldenbgs2009
@goldenbgs2009 2 жыл бұрын
They have 39mm I just bought it
@amgolfer3591
@amgolfer3591 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenbgs2009 with a Swiss movement?
@goldenbgs2009
@goldenbgs2009 2 жыл бұрын
@@amgolfer3591 sw200
@amgolfer3591
@amgolfer3591 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenbgs2009 thank you...can you give me the actual link of the 39mm you purchased your SM from? I can seem to only find the 36mm of which I will take, but prefer the slightly larger 39mm. Thank you Tai Man.....much appreciated.
@cezzarmicu
@cezzarmicu 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like the logo of the san martin. It clashes with the hour hand when it’s at 11-1 o’ clock. But that’s just me
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
I know the good thing is that you can change it for what ever you want
@praktikalpinoytechgsm8496
@praktikalpinoytechgsm8496 2 жыл бұрын
where can you get smiths bnew?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
www.timefactors.com
@Csibu89
@Csibu89 2 жыл бұрын
It"s not really a question, one you can get, the other you cannot :D Smith's website is just criminal, the whole process they have over there... Utterly frustrating, I will never buy anything from them.
@philipstephan5451
@philipstephan5451 10 ай бұрын
I don't know maybe get someone to climb mt Everest while the San martin is on there wrist the whole climb and see how the watch performs. Some thing tells me it would do just fine though. I am for team San martin. 😊
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 9 ай бұрын
That would be incredible to put them to the test!
@philipstephan5451
@philipstephan5451 9 ай бұрын
That would be awesome just to see.
@oliviersebastian1516
@oliviersebastian1516 21 күн бұрын
I’ll choose Pagani Explorer❤
@mckiki4029
@mckiki4029 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the San Martin logo, it doesn't look generic and gives off a micro brand vibe 😁
@chrisjct2095
@chrisjct2095 2 жыл бұрын
gives Tag Heuer Vibes to me
@mckiki4029
@mckiki4029 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjct2095 Actually it does, I don't have anything against Tag's branding, but the insane prices they charge is ridiculous
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
great points of view! i actually discover that with one friend discussing about our san martins yesterday. Thanks for that!
@GeorgeVisekruna-ym1yt
@GeorgeVisekruna-ym1yt Жыл бұрын
The Smiths Everest looks better on your wrist as you have a smaller wrist. For someone with a larger wrist size though, the San Martin is the one to go for. It may be a cheaper watch, but it looks far better than the plain looking Smiths Everest.
@hadidtedji6389
@hadidtedji6389 2 жыл бұрын
Does the san martin have sharp spot?
@AndySTWT
@AndySTWT 2 жыл бұрын
Not at all its a lovely watch to wear
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