NEW SAN MARTIN EXPLORER 36 First Look & Quick Comparison With SMITHS EVEREST!

The new and improved San Martin Explorer homage is here and its here to stay! Incredible little watch with so mucho to give for the money.
Where to buy San Martin:
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--Things I forgot to mention are further down below in the specs--
#smithseverest #sanmartinexplorer #explorer #explorerwatch #homage
SPECS San Martin Explorer
Model: SN0021-G-B1
Movement: PT5000/SW200 [automatic mechanical movement]
316L solid stainless steel
36mm bezel
37mm diameter
lug to lug 45.5mm
thickness 11.3mm
20mm band width
Top hat sapphire crystal, AR coating
polished stainless steel bezel
369 Dial, Fashion Light Blue and Black, 3D Hour Markers
classic mercedes luminous hands
BGW-9 blue light, hands and markers
Screw-down crown, with hexagonal Saint Martin logo
Threaded Case Back, Brushed Process
316L solid stainless steel bracelet, 20mm x 16mm
New folding clasp with safety, with 3D Hexagonal logo
Water resistant: 10 bars = 100 meters
Weight: about 125g
SPECS Smiths Everest
Case
• 316L stainless steel, brushed top with polished sides
• Diameter 36mm, 39.3mm including crown
• Lug to lug height 43.5mm
• 11.3mm to the top of the hi-dome sapphire crystal
• Lug spacing 20mm
• Anti-magnetic 20,000A/m with anti-magnetic movement cover
• Water Resistance 10ATM/100 metres/330 feet
• 140 grammes including bracelet
• Screw back, screw down crown, drilled lugs
Dial
• Satin black with gilt minute track and logo
• Triangle, numbers and indices SuperLuminova X1-C3
Hands
• Gilt Mercedes hands
• Luminous: SuperLuminova X1-C3
Crystal
• Hi-dome sapphire with anti-reflective coating on the underside , 30.4mm diameter x 2.5mm thick
Movement
• Miyota 9039, 24 jewel automatic, 28,800 BPH
Bracelet
• Solid link stainless steel bracelet tapering from 20mm to 16mm with screwed links, solid end links and signed push-button clasp

[@V0ltron]

It's easier to get the Rolex than it is to get a Smith's Everest.

[@AndySTWT]

Hahaha that is probably right 🤣

[@thomazzzzi]

There are available sundays

[@slightlyprofessional]

@@thomazzzzi Every Sunday??

[@archievthapa3593]

Totally agree !!!

[@Kiddomike]

I got my 124270 first before the PRS-25.

[@WristWatching]

I've been eyeing the Smiths for more than a year now, but this San Martin really looks much better and doesn't come with the buying hassle that the Smiths does. Definitely want one in my collection now. Great review - subbed!

[@phmwu7368]

Both are " Made in China " 🤔

[@joelf5565]

I agree. The San Martin looks way better. The Smith looks like a cheap watch.

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

One of the earliest reviews on the newest San Martin explorer model. Smiths may got the proportion right, but San Martin has creative design twist with applied indices. That's how a homage watch should be done, taking classic design with different execution .

[@andregabrielsten3390]

"Creative design twist" as in straight up copy of Rolex? 😂 Both watches are homages of the same watch line, only Smith's copies an old version (Rolex 1016), while San Martin copies the modern Explorers.

[@agustinenriquez352]

@@andregabrielsten3390 I wouldn't say it copies a modern explorer. I think it's more of a 1016 version with applied indices.

[@BeerHombre]

@@agustinenriquez352 agreed

[@sleepinglysithia]

I went with the black dial San Martin with PT5000. I can't wait to get it. This will be my first San Martin. You have the only video of this particular version with black dial that I can find. I've watched your video 10+ times. I for one would love it if you made more videos of it if you wanted to. A strap show would be cool or comparisons with other watches.

[@jeffp2966]

I second this. No other reviews on the black version, so a comparison with some of your other watches would be great.

[@georgepolyakov7732]

Really nice review! Keep up the good work. Those are some cool shots of the watch, I really like when you do shots from further out like with your hand in pocket and arms crossed etc, really gives a better idea of how the watch wears. I ended up ordering one of these, can't wait for it to come!

[@anthonysmith2982]

Nice upload. The 1st time I've watched a video of yours. I have quite large wrists so have both the Tisell 39mm Explorer 214270 MkII homage (Miyota 90S5) and the San Martin 39mm Explorer with 'old radium' lume. The Tisell was one of my favourite watches, despite being a reasonably humble timepiece. I bought the Tisell because I was considering picking up a 214270 MkII, but saw no need. The Tisell is that good (for the ridiculously low $ at least). I now prefer the San Martin. I've gone custom dial both times I've bought San Martin. It's a good experience designing ones own 'brand' and logo. With the market going bonkers, so many people buying solely due to brand recognition alone and the general lack of availability it's refreshing to be able to buy such simple watches of such good build quality so cheaply. The longer I'm in the hobby the less I care about 'luxury" timepieces and the more I appreciate the law of diminishing returns.

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

San MArtin smartly stepped up with this model when the Smiths Everest PRS-25 is nearly impossible to buy new. The thing is Smiths has some Everest history bragging rights as well as the explorer 1016 although the brand is no longer under the orginal ownership.

[@AndySTWT]

Agreed! Thanks for the comment

[@jlg395]

I never understand the whole "impossible to buy new" complaint about Timefactors. Make an account, have your credit card ready, and don't hesitate when the Timefactors website opens. I've ordered from them three times, and all three times I've received the watch I wanted (PRS-25, PRS-57 monopusher, and the Air Ministry). Stop whining and just type faster.

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

@jlg395 just checked and infortunately, the black dial PRS-25 is still showing sold out.

[@BeerHombre]

@@jlg395 you are the exception to the rule. Be appreciative instead of being an ass and kick others while they're down

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

I do really like the dial and the Gilt of the smiths better though!

[@EscapeWheel]

Nice review man! just discovered your channel and followed along (Check out mine if you enjoy affordable Chinese watches!) I've got the San martin inbound now...so thanks for hyping me up! :)

[@AgentJ415]

I recently purchased a SM submariner homage out of curiosity. I've been seeing a lot of praise for SM lately in my review searches for brands. Coming from owning Seiko and quartz Grand Seiko I was on the fence. But once I got the SM in hand I was impressed. The logo I'm still on the fence with as it's kind of big and takes up a lot of space, but the overall quality, weight, finishing is impressive. Keeping time well after a week now. If this is the quality you get from SM it's going to be hard to not consider another one in the future. I've been eyeballing the Smiths and the Longines conquest and hydro conquest. The SM is looking like a nice option as it has thrown it's hat in the ring now.

[@clash79]

You mentioned not liking the Smith’s clasp, but didn’t mention how amazing the SM one is. I have this watch, and am still amazed how amazing the clasp that San Martin uses is

[@jeffp2966]

Great review, from a new subscriber. I had spotted this just prior to your review/comparison, but based on your video, which was one of the first, I have now placed my order for the black version!

[@Dylboz]

Just the head-to-head comparison I was looking for! I do like the heritage of Smith's, but the green dial and Tudor-style snowflake handset available for the SM just beats it in every regard. I do like the brown/champagne dial available from Smith's in their Commando, tho.

[@AndySTWT]

Im glad I can help my man!

[@robdavelaw89]

Thank you so much for this review dude!

[@AndySTWT]

Hey thank you for the support! Its my pleasure, this is why i do my videos! Hope you find it helpfull

[@jazzman5598]

There is a vid on YT that describes customer service @ Smiths. Not good. I want an ALL Chinese watch. I have a chronograph (the 1963 Pilot’s watch) but that’s it so……..I’ll run over to Ali X & check the San Martin w the PT 5000. Fine revue! Thanks

[@nbcuni]

I will NEVER buy a San Martin until they change that god forsaken booger blob logo!!!

[@AndySTWT]

HAHAHA its annoying some times!

[@altamushg]

I wish San Martin would make this in a 39/40mm with the applied indexes. I’m a bigger guy and I wouldn’t be able to pull off a 37. It just looks so good.

[@roybrolsbeak]

just ask them on aliexpress... if they get enough requests its easy for them to make because they already have all the elements to make it work.

[@AndySTWT]

yeah maybe one day! They actually listen to consumers.

[@tonybabdos17]

They just did it mate. Go check it out 😉

[@goldenbgs2009]

They have 39mm I just bought it.

[@milehiaviation]

I don't understand why no one likes the Hex logo. Would it be how I would design a logo for them? No, but it looks bar better than the boring plain print, or the cursive print. They took the time to design a logo to represent their brand, and the applied version is actually finished very very nicely. Take a look at it under a loupe. It made me like it even more.

[@AndySTWT]

agreed totally

[@GabrielSilverstein]

What you are saying is correct, however I think that the SM Hex logo takes up too much prominence when on the dial. In that setting it directs your eye to the logo, which battles for visual space on the face. The triangle on top is supposed to anchor your eye to the design but it "fights" for attention with the logo.

[@SaSpursFan]

Wasn’t this not the original smith brand. I believe a company bought the name and is operating under new ownership so that whole heritage argument is to be taken with a grain of salt

[@AndySTWT]

That is super true… but still the name of smiths has some heft to it but yeah your not wrong at all haha thanks for pyur argument

[@roybrolsbeak]

yes totally agree. lets say they can abuse the brands heritage to ask a higher price.

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

the name was bought and used by Timefactors.

[@LorianandLothric]

@@roybrolsbeak They go for even higher on the resale market. The website prices are pretty reasonable

[@Csibu89]

It"s not really a question, one you can get, the other you cannot :D Smith's website is just criminal, the whole process they have over there... Utterly frustrating, I will never buy anything from them.

[@mandymandy4885]

Smiths may have been to the top of Everest, but it wasn’t this model and wasn’t this Smiths. Eddie Platts bought the brand name. He used to make his watches with german manufacturers like Fricker. Like everything else, manufacturing is now carried out in China. They are unobtainable because they are popular with WIS, so scalpers buy the popular models to immediately place on ebay (usually with a “it’s too small for me” excuse) and a huge mark up. Is that worth it for a homage, when you can scratch that itch for significantly less, without the hassle of beating 199 others at 2pm on a sunday? I say this as someone who has at various times owned Speedbirds 1 & 3, PRS-14, PRS-29b, and a PRS-53, none of which were sold on for profit…

[@bfair6284]

This watch is not USD$250, it's USD $326 RIGHT NOW.

[@AndySTWT]

Indeed, i forgot to say that i got this one with a discount! At the time! But still a great price!

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

San Martin makes great watches, I just wish they created their own designs since they're capable of producing quality parts

[@theannouncer5538]

Agreed, I think they are just going with the “whatever sells” approach for now tho

[@rickybobbysdriver555]

I attempted to buy a smiths last year but I wasn't fast enough. I then purchased the San Martin 39mm, and I have been thoroughly impressed with it. If you can look past the logo issues then it's definitely an amazing watch.

[@ArniesTech]

Is the San Martin Hexagon Logo applied in metal?

[@rickybobbysdriver555]

@@ArniesTech I got the name is script. I would guess the logo is applied.

[@deanwaller8283]

@@rickybobbysdriver555 I don't mind the script on the vintage style watches...but that applied hex logo is a real eyesore

[@steven2809]

Every time you said 'incredible' I took a drink and now I'm pissed.......🤪

[@AndySTWT]

😅😂🤣 jajaja i will have to play that game too!

[@roybrolsbeak]

Thanks for making this video. Im still doubting if i want it with the text logo or the one in this video. What is your opinion..does it look too busy with the hexagon?

[@moncherias]

Thank you for the great video and review. I would like to kindly ask you for some feedback / guidance in terms of the San Martin’s movement. Ali Express offers and option to upgrade to a Sellita SW300 movement. Do you think the upgrade is worth the additional price. Is it even worth upgrading? I greatly appreciate kindly your opinion and information.

[@AndySTWT]

Yeah please write me on instagram! I could explain easier there by sending voice notes! @andy.stwt and thank you for commenting and looking for my opinion means alot

[@villagranvicent]

Thanks for the comparison, I prefer the SM because it looks better made, with more attention to detail and it is available! But man you move the watches so much and so close to the camera that gets dizzy.

[@scollyutube]

Lume looks more matched on the black SM in this video than the Cyan one. The hands and markers are different shades on the Tiffany coloured ones. I wish the SM had springbar holes like the Smith does too.

[@troynasello2085]

Both the sellita sw200 & the pt5000 are clones of the eta2824. So both copy eta. As does the stp1-11. The patent ran out on the eta2824, that's why so many company's copy it, but it's legal. Seagull has a clone as well.

[@joostkiefte7683]

SN020-G-B2.... I have the cyan blue version (aka Tiffany blue) and it is, indeed, awesome. I think the Smiths' gilded hands have a slight edge over the San Martin, but it's not a dealbreaker for the SM. And then again the SM's applied numerals and indexes are so beautiful that they trump the Smiths' printed ones. What I resent in a way is that you cannot just shop for the Smiths but that every time it's a gamble whether or not you will be granted the privilege by Eddie to order one the next time he sees fit to open up his shop.

[@AndySTWT]

agreed!

[@anthonysmith2982]

I see the Eddie / Timefactors buying situation differently. Yeah, the buying process is a pain in the arse, however I respect the reason why. I know for a fact that he has rejected more than one lucrative offers to sell the brand because he does not want what he primarily does (extremely faithful re-issues of rare and expensive mostly military issued pieces ect.) to become too commercialised. Yeah, it impacts us as potential customers but I like it that he's making watches as an enthusiast for enthusiasts. He's also getting pretty old. I find the way he protects his brand from cash grabbers admirable. cheers.

[@kurtcreed1]

Beste Joost, wat heb jij geinvesteerd in het horloge en heb je in NL nog BTW moeten betalen voor het horloge?

[@igorschutz]

I never saw the Smiths Everest personally, but from the video, and from my taste, it seems to be more beautiful, but the San Martin seems to be a better-made watch. The San Martin has the advantage of being easily acquired, in addition to being cheaper, while the Smiths has a waiting list. I ended up getting the San Martin and I don't regret it. It's the ultimate Explorer homage for me.

[@AgentJ415]

This video sold me on the SM also 😎

[@paulboes7649]

Smiths does not have a waitinglist. You have to quick at the openingminutes, about once every two weeks. Smiths is well made, I know, because I own an Everest.

[@maiabrittany]

I don't think the SM is a better built watch than the Smiths. Have you seen one in the flesh?

[@glaucolelli2583]

Of course it’s better is the shameless copy of the rolex

[@sleepinglysithia]

Does the Smiths bracelet fit the San Martin by chance? I may be in the minority but I like the rivets. I see Smiths sell the bracelet separately.

[@gonzalograjeda7389]

Great comparison Andy! I recently discovered your channel and I like your style of videos. Both awesome watches. I like that the San Martin is a mashup of a 1016 and a modern Explorer, having applied indices but in a vintage font. The Tiffany blue looks interesting as well, but I don’t think it’ll be timeless at all in contrast with the black one. I also prefer the bracelet on the SM.

[@AndySTWT]

Hey thanks for sharing your opinion! Im glad you like my style of videos! Cheers!

[@jjakiefte2165]

The San Martin is 36.5, actually.... The Smiths is 10 grammes heavier than the SM. The Rolex' hands are proportioned exactly like the San Martin, so it stays very close to the watch it homages. I want both: the Smiths' glossy dial, the gilt hands and the rivet bracelet are very, very desirable.

[@shahremhassan2841]

Excellent work

[@AndySTWT]

Heeey thanks! Cheers mate!

[@keithcollier9320]

Just a word of advice. Slow your movements down a bit. We watch the video to see the watch. You move it around so much, it’s hard to see the details. And it keeps blurring when you move it in and out.

[@AndySTWT]

Thanks for the feedback keith! I will be changing that! Cheers! Snd thanks for commenting!

[@cedarcanoe]

The San Martin movement choice is something I don’t get (PT-5000 is unsure quality, SW is too expensive for a Chinese watch). They should opt for a Miyota 9000-series instead. Cheap, proven and super good quality.

[@AndySTWT]

I agree maybe its cheaper for them? Idk but still good movement, haven’t have any problems with the pt5000

[@mattinmalaga]

You never know, maybe someone has climbed to the summit of Everest wearing a San Martin!! Just ordered mine based on your review after spending quite a while undecided - thanks for helping me make my mind up👌🏻

[@AndySTWT]

Hope you enjoy it! haha imagine that! i would like to see that!

[@dieselboi91]

San Martin 100%. I used to be a huge watch snob. I didn’t even look at Chinese watches thinking they were absolute crap. All I cared about was brand and great heritage behind the brand. Now I still appreciate heritage but I now appreciate any brands making incredible quality watches which also includes Chinese watches. I ordered this San Martin with the SW200 just over the weekend and awaiting for it to be shipped out to me. I’m absolutely thrilled and excited to receive it. I just wish it came with the newer 4 micro adjust clasp.

[@igorschutz]

You could have asked SM to send you the watch with the 'old' clasp. I did it, and my watch came with it.

[@chrisjct2095]

@@igorschutz what's the difference in the clasp?

[@igorschutz]

@@chrisjct2095 the old clasp has 4 holes for microadjustment, while the new clasp has only 2 holes.

[@chrisjct2095]

@@igorschutz odd.. I will ask for it thanks

[@jasonodell79er]

How do like the sw200? I am seriously thinking of getting this. If the finishing is as nice as it seems to be....how could i not get a sterile dial with sw200. Black or blue....either one. Please tell me the quality isnt shitty. Thank you.

[@NABROWNEBMX]

I feel as if the Smith's "heritage" was bought and doesn't entirely capture the spirit of the previous brand that did the expedition... I feel like they're on the same level when it comes to having "prestige"

[@AndySTWT]

That is very true.. good point!

[@Jstatham1979]

I briefly owned the Smiths. It wore so small to me; I had to sell it. Glad you’re enjoying yours though.

[@jonieder50]

I had the smiths as well. I didnt like the case and face but i really liked the size. Wish SM was 35-36 instead of 36-37 ...

[@roybrolsbeak]

Had it and just didnt find it very special. And the green lume annoyed me

[@chrisjct2095]

@@jonieder50 get bigger wrists

[@jonieder50]

@@chrisjct2095 touché :D

[@LorianandLothric]

@@chrisjct2095 You can’t change your wrist size

[@favoritethings3065]

Great review….you make a strong case for the San Martin; I also was one of those who couldn’t buy a Smiths Everest because I ran out of time….very lame buying experience. What is the third watch on the upper left of your video?

[@AndySTWT]

That one is the WMT BARRACUDA its an explorer 1016 homage very cool patina

[@dfergiedf]

The smiths bracelet should taper down it doesn’t look right all the same width! Also what size is the dial on the SM ? Thanks

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

The San Martin is so good, the only thing I dont like about it is the Branding on the dial, I wish it was done more like the Smiths

[@AndySTWT]

Totally agree with you

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

@@AndySTWT The devil is always in he details

[@ccooper8785]

Which one would I get ? Well, not living in the past, I would get the Addiesdive AD2023-1 with the excellent VH31 mecaquartz movement. This has better accuracy PER MONTH than either of these watches have PER DAY. And all for less than £70 !!!

[@AndySTWT]

That is a good choice brotha!

[@LoranHarding]

@@AndySTWT I am seriously considering that Addiesdive quartz. My Seiko Turtle is great, and I wear it every day and all day to keep it running. Do I need a second automatic? PITA to keep them running without a watchwinder. When my Turtle gave trouble that my watchmaker could not cure, he said he could buy a new 4R36 and install it for EEJJ175XYZ total total . I had him do that and now I have virtually a new Turtle. Loses about 2 min. in two weeks. Easy to see with my atomic Casios. tURTLE is a great watch and I did not pay EE12,500xyzS FOR IT. My money is in NVDA, TSLA etc.

[@SteveFWatches]

Both look fantastic but I prefer the bracelet on the San Martin

[@AndySTWT]

Totally Agree!

[@the_9ent]

Both are amazing. I’d have to lean towards Smiths. Just wish it had some AR coating.

[@vvvhhhhhbb]

It does gave AR coating. Just received mine 3 days ago. 4th generation with dual release clasp. Stunning. He is showing 3rd generation here.

[@LorianandLothric]

Mine has it

[@Mr-Safology]

I purchased Smith's Everest a year ago, and it has AR coating. There's a blue reflection in certain angles, which is stunning. 👌🏼

[@michaelj.savage6066]

All San Martin does is knock off everyone else. Nothing original always copy others.

[@AndySTWT]

Very true my friend. But they do it very well

[@clinttugaff7827]

I really like the San Martin watch. My only small niggle is the push release of the clasp are so big. Like whisper with wings.

[@pdarocha1970]

I don't know if anyone mentioned already, but the PT5000 movement, and the Selita SW200, are both clones of the ETA 2824.

[@AndySTWT]

Yes that is really true! Thanks!

[@yusufbest4475]

Are they good clones?

[@miss2369]

Both look great but I like the SM bracelet mora. I do not like the screws coming out of the smiths. This is my favorite watch style and on straps they also look amazing. Price point and history watchmaker Smiths wins. All that said I think the SM looks awesome for the price

[@musik4u343]

Great review but u have the pricing wrong on the san martin...it's like 310 in most stores. If it was 250...id buy 2 lol

[@AndySTWT]

yeah my bad! i got it on a sale for their new years, i forgot to mention! Thank you for bring it up!

[@chasehuggins6157]

TBH the San Martin quality is far better, but the Smiths name has more heritage... even if it's not actually the same company. Also, the SM logo is trash.

[@korling99]

I really lke the new model with snowflake hands.

[@AndySTWT]

Me too! The sub one and the bb 36 alike

[@eliocampesi2533]

I've ordered the SM in black with 4 micro adjustment buckle...

[@AndySTWT]

Excellent great choice!!! enjoy iT!

[@cezzarmicu]

I don’t like the logo of the san martin. It clashes with the hour hand when it’s at 11-1 o’ clock. But that’s just me

[@AndySTWT]

I know the good thing is that you can change it for what ever you want

[@garyjohn1956]

I went with the Kuoe Old Smith they have a 36 and 39 (39 for mine). No way I would buy a Smith I continue to hear the guy is a real jerk with bad service and San Martin is okay but Chinese is not for me. Thanks for the review.

[@philipstephan5451]

I don't know maybe get someone to climb mt Everest while the San martin is on there wrist the whole climb and see how the watch performs. Some thing tells me it would do just fine though. I am for team San martin. 😊

[@AndySTWT]

That would be incredible to put them to the test!

[@philipstephan5451]

That would be awesome just to see.

[@davidsonviray1403]

Why i feel like the hands and the hour markers color are not the same? On the san martin?

[@AndySTWT]

They are exactly the same color no variation what so ever

[@denisdaly1708]

I tried getting the Smith's 2 years ago. I found it impossible to get. I prefer a 37mm size, so for me, its SM.

[@goldenbgs2009]

They have 39mm I just bought it

[@amgolfer3591]

@@goldenbgs2009 with a Swiss movement?

[@goldenbgs2009]

@@amgolfer3591 sw200

[@amgolfer3591]

@@goldenbgs2009 thank you...can you give me the actual link of the 39mm you purchased your SM from? I can seem to only find the 36mm of which I will take, but prefer the slightly larger 39mm. Thank you Tai Man.....much appreciated.

[@rascalap2968]

Hands on SM better than Smiths - their hour is too short and minute is too long - looks really weird…

[@ArniesTech]

The San Martin looks AMAZING 🙏🙏🙏

[@AndySTWT]

It is amaxing

[@shinraorg]

San Martin hands down, just ordered it after I got the "BB36"( SN021-G-B3), It hasn't come off my wrist.

[@AndySTWT]

Yeah! 🤘nice nice the bb36 and the San Martin too

[@mrautomatech2329]

So how are you liking the San Martin explorer version?

[@Brightpathos]

I think Smiths is by far the better choice because of their history with being used on real Everest Expeditions but excellent video comparing the 2

[@AndySTWT]

Thanks Daniel! Thanks for commenting! And thats true thats why i have the 2 haha can’t decide which one is best ! Haha

[@biltong3470]

Do you like watches or watch companies?

[@Brightpathos]

@@biltong3470 Between 2 watches that look almost exactly alike I would prefer to own the one by a company with an interesting history to it. Also a Smiths retains its value better than a San Martin and some models are good investments (Smiths Everest Aventurine Dial as an example).

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

I'm curious... what's your logic for having the minute hand reach the end of the dial instead of going right under the seconds markers?

[@AndySTWT]

Sometimes i love long hands that gos all the way to the edge od the dial but i maybe was too picky on this one haha … it has no reason it looks good how it is also though

[@sleepinglysithia]

I’m not seeing the San Martin for $250 as you mention in the video. I see $326.20 for the PT5000 version and $456.40 for the SW200 version. Am I missing something?

[@AndySTWT]

I got it in a sale before their new years in china, sorry for the confusion, but they are having a lot of sales throughout the year ill wait till then, but still $326 its a good price

[@sleepinglysithia]

@@AndySTWT Ah that makes sense. Thank you for the info

[@hootonhoot]

I haven’t seen San Martin discounted with sales compared to the other Ali Express sellers - will definitely keep a better lookout!

[@kobe5rings]

@@hootonhoot they are always discounted. Usually $3 dollars off every $30 you spend also ali coupons and store coupons. I copped the SM BB58 from $300+ for around $230. Just make sure to look for the alicoupons. Those are the ones that will cut a big chunk off the price. Check reddit when its time for the annual sales for help

[@1SaG]

What this SM (and some of their other models) really, really needs is a glossy/lacquered black dial. Those matte ones are ok I suppose for vintage and faux aged stuff, but on more modern looking watches, a deep black dial looks just so much more premium. Especially when you're out in the sun where those matte ones look like a grainy, dark grey and almost ugly.

[@ghekolosh]

Would you say that the Smiths looks better in the sun? Is the black dial better? Thank you.

[@blackcatsarenopussies]

This San Maetin Explorer or the Railmaster. Would you review them side by side?

[@AndySTWT]

Uuuff tougher!! I would like to do that! I will try to get one into the channel

[@watchalot919]

They both have pros and cons, but I would go for the SM, especially as the Smith's costs so much more

[@asura2545]

One is the "true" explorer (real heritage), the other is the objectively better watch. The hobby is about the heart, so a great matchup

[@dhanslee]

I wish San Martin's logo looked cleaner. Unfortunately it looks like cheaply designed. Anyway, SM explorer is better than Smiths.

[@roybrolsbeak]

they did a nice first try but its too big and shiny. if they just make it a bit smaller and brush the logo so it doesnt look the same as the indicies it would be okay.

[@r4faelcampos793]

Hey dude, what do you think about pt5000 ? I have seen many reviews where the sound is horrible when hand wound. Is nh35 better?

[@AndySTWT]

I think is a great movement. I have my explorer sanmartin homage with this movement and it has been incredible. Yes it sounds loud but the movement it self is just a workhorse

[@yusufbest4475]

Well, just find out that the smiths have anti magnetism which is a good value proposition.. but Im not keen on look alike watches and the mercedes hands so I got myself a falcon 3 instead which is keeping good time and is awesome in its comfort and aesthetics.. Im thinking now maybe it would be even greater with the anti magnetism but so far, thats not an issue.

[@AndySTWT]

Wow! Thats the one from Lorier right! GREAT BUY! And incredible brand! Im in the look to buy a lorier watch my self! Congrats!

[@lwood5375]

The smiths looks kind of like a seiko 5.. the san martin looks better imo

[@Teromi]

what homage give us curved hands like the real explorer?

[@oliviersebastian1516]

I’ll choose Pagani Explorer❤

[@kjstewys]

I own the Explorer 124270 and the minute hand doesn’t reach the minute track on it either. Assuming that’s why the San Martin does the same. Doesn’t mean you can’t dislike it, just may add some color as to why they did it haha great review! My smiths commando is arriving today and can’t wait to compare it to the explorer.

[@AndySTWT]

Ohh nice to see this I actually want to do a comparison this to with the new Rolex exp 36

[@adamw7411]

San Martin on ali express costs about 340 and not 250. Where do you I get it for 250?

[@AndySTWT]

Sorry my bad i forgot that got it at a sale

[@morgan.enfield]

Thank you for this review I was waiting for. I prefer the vintage look of the smith, looks like more of a 1016 but hate this riveted bracelet and too much a hassle to buy. On the San Martin I don't like these applied indices (too modern) and hate their logo even if I live in the hexagonal country.

[@jesustijerinardz.3811]

San Martin gives you the option to buy the same watch with "San Martin" name printed instead of that logo. You might like it :)

[@morgan.enfield]

@@jesustijerinardz.3811 Yes I know but with applied indices I don't like. Give me a Smith dial with San Martin bracelet and price I can buy with no hassle.

[@bicep1239]

San Martin has a version with Sellita SW200 movement for roughly the same price as the Smith's. Swiss movement, applied indices? No competition.

[@whodattt9850]

Hey great video! I must ask though, what is the watch you got up in the top left corner there?

[@AndySTWT]

Thats the WMT BARACUDA is also a rolex explorer 1016 homage

[@sreekumar1287]

Cool watches bro... build quality is better on San Martin eventhough less pricy

[@LorianandLothric]

They’re both about the same in quality, maybe slightly better on the SM

[@hadidtedji6389]

Does the san martin have sharp spot?

[@AndySTWT]

Not at all its a lovely watch to wear

[@hugoherrera4504]

Great review, also smiths customer service is not the best,I have the mathey tissot Explorer homage and I like that one,I have to say the San Martin looks better

[@AndySTWT]

Thanks for sharing

[@fcc5923]

San Martin, too costly. They have to consider a cheaper seiko movement.

[@roybrolsbeak]

cant, watch will be too thick with nh35/38

[@007josiah]

Give me applied over painted indexes any day.

[@mraymanTube]

San Martin knocks it out of the park!

[@richardvacanti4265]

Your crazy the seiko is just as good or better than the pt5000

[@AndySTWT]

Seiko is incredible, maybe i didn’t make my self clear in the comparison. Pt500 is a copy … but it actually works well but seiko is gonna be the trusty one and the reliable one

[@peregr1nbr]

This vídeo made me buy the San Martin. What a watch!

[@AndySTWT]

heeey! nice! how you feel about the san martin! Do tell!

[@hughgreentree]

They both look beautiful. But I have too many watches including the Alpha Explorer (cheap knock off) and... my dad's Rolex Explorer Rev. 1016. And I wear an Oris Sixty Five 36mm dive watch as my daily wear. I use the rotating bezel to time my pills.

[@ThiHambrook]

Thank u 🎉👍u answered my questions

[@AndySTWT]

I’m glad I can help

[@blackcatsarenopussies]

I wsnt want the San Martin but only with a proper deep black

[@AndySTWT]

Imagine that Happening! eventualy i think its gonna happen

[@Cohen.the.Worrier]

Thanks, great review. However, two holes make one micro-adjust. 🧐

[@AndySTWT]

great point!, you can now purchase with your watch the better clasp with 6 micro adjustments ! So thats a relief

[@patrickhartmann1540]

On year 3 with the San Martin with PT5000. I wear it weekly and it is still rocking. It’s a great watch for my 6.5inch wrist. Actually hard to find these days in black

[@LorianandLothric]

The newer Smiths have a push button clasp and mine has AR coating

[@AndySTWT]

Nice! Im glad to hear that! I love when they improve watches!

[@maitrehg]

The case design and proportions on the SM are way better. More like the real thing.

[@danielfenderson7213]

Do you have a link to this exact San Martin model?

[@AndySTWT]

Yes indeed 6,413.00 MXN$ 33％ Off | San Martin Men Luxury Watch 36mm 369 Dial Explore Climbing Series Fashion Couples Sport Watch Unisex Automatic Mechanical 10Bar a.aliexpress.com/_mtT4QBY

[@jameshuang3898]

I bought a San Martin watch sn-021 recently and the experience has been rather poor. Just wanna share the story so people know what to expect from San martin in this situation. The watch is finished pretty nice for the price. The lines are crisp and sharp. But the pt5000 movement was broken out of the box, would not hack, stop running randomly (3 times in less than 1 min), and the minute and second hands have bright white lume and the rest have patina lume. Their customer service rep was frustrating to talk to, implied that I didn't know how to operate the watch at first and made me jump through hoops to prove the watch was broken. Even then they only agreed to send a replacement movement. Meaning i'd have to pay to get it fixed locally. (costs 100 canadian dollar at watch repair shops) I wasn't happy with the offer so I started dispute, and after sending even more videos to prove the watch is broken, they agreed to let me ship back for warranty repair. I liked the watch still and was ok with that. But I told them that they need to fix the hands too because the mismatch really ruins the dial. They told me there's nothing they can do and all their watches are like that. (What the fuck?????) I ordered dial customization they told me there's no return. I intended to keep and reviews were good. So i didn't think much of it. But when you ship me a broken watch with a dial that looks different from your product pics, that changes things. Since they refused to fix the hands I wanted a refund. I even told them that they can keep the 60 dollars I paid for dial customization to be fair. They agreed to refund me after days of arguing and now they chanegd their mind again and only want to refund me half. Still disputing this but I want to share the story so you know what to expect from san martin when shit goes wrong. Update: they agreed to a refund actually. Aliexpress mediator proposed the half refund solution not them. I believe they did the best they could to help me.

[@TheCrispyjones]

You are spamming every San Martin review, why?

[@jameshuang3898]

@@TheCrispyjones well, if you look at all the reviews on this watch. It’s overwhelming positive. Which is true to most extent. But the attention to detail and after sale service still have lots of room for improvement. Especially now they are raising their price. I posted this on Reddit and there are other SM buyers who felt similarly. Sure, maybe it’s my fault that I expected too much from them, but I’m sure there are others who are like me. So it’s important for potential buyers to know these things as a reality check.

[@eugenevedensky6071]

Ended up getting the tiffany version for $247 in the Ali sale today. Hell of a deal.

[@AndySTWT]

INCREDIBLE! Congrats! Wear it in good health!