*NEW* SEASON 19 MOVE UPDATE! THEY BUFFED WIGGLYTUFF? GOODBYE WHISCASH! | GO BATTLE LEAGUE

[@lovelylunarlady]

They'll give Ursaluna everything besides a good fast move.

[@thanakritk.2668]

If they give it shadow claw , the entire ML meta will be doomed😅

[@omarholder9036]

​@@thanakritk.2668it really wouldn't. It would bring ghost resist back into the meta. Yveltal is nowhere to be seen. Zarude is niche even among niche Mons.

[@Aizen_Sosuke_11]

​@@thanakritk.2668ursaluna with shadow claw , Ice punch & high horsepower 💀

[@thanakritk.2668]

@@omarholder9036 But that will just make an another OP mon that everybody have to built team around or counter it ,and actually SD ursaluna will win against Yveltal (checked from Pvpoke) thats how op it is

[@Dannyzerk]

Agreed! If they gave it shadow claw or any good ground fast move though, it would be a potential meta changer, so maybe that is why they did not give it a good fast move? It sucks tho, tbh

[@dapperninji646]

Typhlosion thunderpunch. Yes! Shadow claw typholsion safeswap?

[@Diamant-si7oe]

Salamence finally gets his dream attack. It always wanted to fly and now it fits into Pokémon GO

[@bobsponge8539]

Naganadel getting Dragon Claw is quite exciting, I'm definitely gonna be using mine in Ultra League

[@janetaylor7177]

i feel like sallamence learning fly is actually huge, even if its not amazing or anything it adds a ton of coverage and opens up potential for being used in master league

[@matchasgotcha]

Why are we not talking about Salamence with Fly? 5 Dragon Tails can get to one and I feel Shadow Salamence will have more relevance in limited meta I'm also glad Lanturn and Whiscash are getting slight nerfs. People have been asking for nerfs to their respective moves

[@omarholder9036]

The nerf needed was to revert the Trevenant nerf. Seed bomb needed to be lowered again. That way Trev could counter swap Whiscash down 1 turn and still CMP on the Scald As for Salamencen fly, it's a godsend. For all leagues. I'm excited for Fearow fly too. I wanted Drill Peck but I can live with Fly.

[@breloommaster12]

Salamence will still have to contend against Dragonite in any PvP setting; it is highly unlikely that any meta that includes Mence will be excluding Dragonite as well. That said, I am more intrigued about Fly Salamence's uses in PvE contexts; its Flying DPS is respectable in raids (especially Mega Salamence) while also being dependable against Rocket grunts/admins

[@SoapMacTavish28]

@@breloommaster12 If only it had air slash.. to get a full flying moveset

[@Denizozzzy003]

​@@SoapMacTavish28 or wing attack if it gets it

[@Cee211plays]

This update is kinda underwhelming, but lanturn and scald users getting nerfed is great

[@jessicamendoza9407]

Did you really expect a massive update right before Worlds?

[@Cee211plays]

​@@jessicamendoza9407no, but I was wanting a nerf that would effect gligar

[@AirSurfer9]

Had so much hope for a good update, even though it was before worlds since the meta desperately needed it, but yeah, this update kinda sucks unless they add the new moves

[@ecxdee]

@@Cee211plays gligar isn't really that oppressive, aerial ace and dig are pretty mid moves, it's just that flying/ground is such a monster offensive and defensive typing

[@j450n23]

Rank 1 stat spread Shadow Typhlosion with Thunder Punch beats Annihilape, Mantine, Sableye, and Feraligatr in the 1s. In the 2s, it beats Cress, Lickitung, Talonflame, and the current Wigglytuff (not sure about Swift tuff). This thing might become a viable, deadly closer to anything that isn't Lanturn or a Dragon-type.

[@tomaddinb9327]

Which fast move?

[@j450n23]

@@tomaddinb9327 incinerate

[@1Adrix1]

I'm calling it now: Cetoddle and Cetitan are both gonna be the MVP of this update.

[@skaareen]

606 and 600 rating in the 0/1s is pretty damn good Edit: in great league

[@Giratina575]

Easily. Though I think mamo may still do better on certain ML team comps.

[@skaareen]

​@@Giratina575 I think it's going to be situational. Cetitan has has a better overall rating, beats Gyarados and wins cmp against LandoT while Mamo has more neutral matchups imo

[@EVIZE17]

for masterleague? I got a hundo

[@skaareen]

@@EVIZE17 it is just as if not more viable than mamoswine which is very good, definitely worth building

[@xx_v_xx4373]

4:07 just a quick correction, Fearow gets Aerial Ace and Sky Attack, not Drill Peck. I wish it got Wing Attack and Drill Peck tho. It'd be a fun Glass Cannon Flyer with Ground coverage

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

If it gets WA in which Fearow don't.

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

The only way to make Fearow good is to buff Peck to the levels of Steel Wing. (Peck buff would also buffed Toucannon tho.)

[@xx_v_xx4373]

@@naturalharmoniagropius4486 Fearow learns it in BDSP, so it's possible, but buffing Peck is a good idea too

[@TreFKennedy]

Another season of Zekrom not getting thunder fang or Kyruem not getting ice fang 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@xx_v_xx4373]

They're fine without those moves tho. They only benefit from them in raids

[@TreFKennedy]

@@xx_v_xx4373 you frame it like it’s a bad thing 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@omarholder9036]

Plenty of time for that. Probably gonna come with the Fusion forms.

[@TreFKennedy]

@@omarholder9036 i hope Freeze Shock, Ice Burn , Bolt strike and Blue Flare get the same amount of attention as Sunsteel strike and Moongiest beam

[@xx_v_xx4373]

@@TreFKennedy How tf am I framing it like it's a bad thing? All I'm saying is that those move additions don't benefit them from a PVP standpoint. Although, to be fair, Kyurem needs Ice Fang more than Zekrom needs Thunder Fang because it doesn't even get an Ice type fast move.

[@ahenriquez1474]

Jonkus used Swift!

[@mkidd1424]

Scrafty and typhlosion with thunder punch? New safe swaps with coverage for flyers

[@taffystar]

I am looking forward to the Naganadel change! 🤩 Can't wait to try it in GL and UL (and I hope I can get a 3rd for ML 🥺)

[@Candyy248]

Oh, I used my charged TM for poliwrath yesterday 😢

[@hazewilliams2117]

This was quick

[@erikz.5705]

Cetitan with Powder Snow, Avalanche, and Body Slam!

[@mr.z6252]

Other than scald debuff being nerf and decrease Spark from 6-5, i don't think everything else matter

[@breloommaster12]

6-5, you mean

[@mr.z6252]

@@breloommaster12 yep my bad

[@rufusconnolly8489]

Swift on Wiggly will matter

[@alfiesmullet1311]

Typhlosion is gunna be fun

[@Filet_Mignon22]

I use scrafty all the time are you sure it won't change much? Having a move to cover my flying weakness I feel like it's more important than having power up punch

[@skaareen]

Uxie has actual potential with the swift update, so that could be interesting

[@thesebas20_]

I'm very excited 😅

[@GigaByczor69]

How about powder snow articuno? Would be cool

[@PogoKirbyz]

Is there a link so I can also see the updated cause I not finding it on site

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

Wigglytuff doesn't need Swift. Aside from having *7 NON-LEGACY CHARGED MOVES* now, Wiggles is a charmer. It's fine with a Guaranteed debuff with Icy Wind and punishing effect with Disarming Voice. Swift will give you poor matchup against Ghost types (Let's face it. You only spam Charm here. So a second Charged move seems pointless. It happens to me.)

[@SuperFreshChonies]

Jynx once again gets ignored like so many other Pokémon…..

[@walterinivin]

They should give bastiodon counter

[@zach34126]

Hydro cannon needs one of either damage nerf or slower charge it’s unbeatable

[@KelKav]

Fun fact: counter on Lokix is simmed as a win against BASTIODON on pvpoke. A bug type… Beating basti…

[@en20drayt87]

escavelier

[@philll.1358]

If these are most of the update then itll be kinda mid. Like swift might be cool but its still a low damge normal move. Lanturn does less dmg but is still stomps many mons cause its stats are crazy. Cetoddle the only decent update Thats gonna really change the meta at all

[@Denizozzzy003]

True butt they don't usually do a big update cus of worlds, I'm sure next season after this one a big one will come since that's usually how Niantic works.

[@notmidraidon]

am I the only one who thinks that thunder punch on scarfty is gonna be good? I mean it has better chance against flyers now

[@billfitting5196]

Hair Row!

[@marosval5985]

Probably swift will be like the elemental punches? 40-55

[@slayerbot1394]

Nice! i can use scrafty abit more

[@jessicamendoza9407]

I love how you pronounce Cetoddle lol

[@u_pringled_m8453]

Finally going to be able to use my r1 GL lokix

[@SteelixVR]

Why is no one talking about counter on lokix, i think this is very meta

[@en20drayt87]

escavelier

[@derek9511]

Noooooooooooo they've nerfed my beautiful boy Luxray 😭😭😭

[@vaiuuii]

Niantic is lazy again. Lets very slightly nerf Lant and Whis cause everyone says so and add Thunder Punch to slightly counter the water mess we currently have in GL and UL. Water is a good typing, but Niantic buffing water types for 4-5 seasons in a row has been a disaster. Also Lant nerf without Skarm nerf? Oh boy... more RPS lets go

[@omarholder9036]

Lanturn dominates skarmory so completely it doesn't matter. If skarmory stays, Lanturn stays

[@Denizozzzy003]

They where not going to do a big update with worlds, by the time worlds is done a massive one will come.

[@ruik9530]

salamence got fly

[@tiagomoraes1510]

Biggest change will be trevenant

[@RobloxMaster642]

Bye Bye Lanturn!!! 😂

[@s.Friel6942]

6:20 it happened last year

[@derrickstacy4380]

Once again no love for bug or dark types . Such marginal changes. Niantic needs to overhaul everything

[@daviddophied7734]

I was hoping for umbeon to get a move update. Currently only dark pulse and foul play without having to use an elite tm. Think brutal swing would be great addition.

[@Denizozzzy003]

What do you mean Loix just got Counter

[@Lucky69K]

3:53 swift is 60damage 55 energy move rn💀 So ig 55 damage for 45energy idk

[@thesebas20_]

We can't get excited, we know what happened to water pulse

[@Denizozzzy003]

​@@thesebas20_I mean Water Plus is better now, of course it can be better not broken of course.

[@nodsamra]

With this update would lanturn be better with charge beam then? If I wanted to keep a electric fast move or just run watergun instead now? Or is spark still good enough to run?

[@Denizozzzy003]

Spark is still good on him since Landturn has good states.

[@hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3]

Please please please please give Bellibolt a non electric charge move!

[@fruityjeezus]

Can you make a toxic team next season with the new move on wig please 🥺

[@michaelhowell2809]

I was thi king wiggy would be good looking at top usuage this weekend lol

[@T_Roll]

No Gligar nerf? GG Niantic....

[@thanakritk.2668]

Gligar is kinda hard to nerf all of its moves are already decent

[@ManjiShiftry]

Just run a ice type and you'll be good

[@hazewilliams2117]

Wow

[@Brooddah]

These buffs and nerfs are a joke.