NEW SKILL ALERT: Meet The (Unofficial) Black

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Ellie Black (CAN) has debuted a new uneven bars skill at the 2022 Canadian Championships: a Shang with a half turn.
It consists of a clear hip circle to counter pike over the high bar with a half turn (180º) to hang in mixed L-grip.
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[@AnnekaMorgan]

I hate to criticize because I could never do anything even close to it, but I personally don't love these. Using the crossed arm grab to get the half twist makes them sort of flail around, and almost always feet come apart and toes come unpointed and knees bend. It looks messy to me. If it could be performed as a half twist in the air, I think it would be phenomenal.

[@rupertee]

I 100% agree

[@thatcrazychick3108]

the narrator said the exact same thing. None of them actually twisted in the air, they just crossed their grip and then “unraveled”.

[@catherinewilhelm809]

Was it Chellsie Memmel at 1:23? Hers seemed fairly controlled, but I absolutely agree that it almost always looks like they're flailing their legs around in the air, especially when they go from straddled skill to straddled skill.

[@Emily-vk7kk]

@@catherinewilhelm809 I think its Beth tweddle! There are some gymnasts with beautiful half turn releases, Sanne Wevers form can be a bit choppy but she does quite a clean half twist rather than forcing it. He Kexin has a beautiful one too :)

[@thatcrazychick3108]

@@jukihiw The intent of my comment was to show that she is not the only one who feels that way, which is why I also repeated the same thing in my comment.

[@nicolewilton1462]

I think it’s criminal that Ellie doesn’t get more recognition. I’d definitely love to see her with an eponymous skill in the CoP.

[@metaphoricallyspeaking45]

Canadian’s notoriously don’t get recognition…..Kate Richardson was always overshadowed.

[@cheriolisterand9194]

The FIG meeting has explicitly mentioned that the half-turn MUST be performed by grabbing the bar in COP 2022-2024, otherwise it will be not recognized. Let's see how this rule will be executed and if the judges would turn a blind eye on 'certain' people then......

[@cheriolisterand9194]

Sorry for some confusion, 'MUST be performed by grabbing the bar' means the turn has to be done before grabbing the bar.

[@Fvhlipe]

(gymnasts begins to watch he kexin’s Li Ya dozens of times so they can learn with the queen 👑)

[@thecreativegeek7886]

@@cheriolisterand9194 what the…? that rule’s going to lessen the incentive to do skills like this :((

[@fgdh2460]

@@thecreativegeek7886 which is a great thing.

[@katekramer7679]

I just read another YT comment saying that it didn't matter LOL Where did you see that the turn has to be performed before grasping the bar? I do think doing it after doesn't look as good.

[@cantor7723]

Probably bars is her weakest event. So glad to see her upgrading. I honestly think she's extremely talented and deserves more recognition. I'd love to see her on the AA podium again. This may be her year!

[@marialidiana9516]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤

[@maxglendale7614]

Ellie is truly a great All-Arounder. At the peak of her difficulty for each event she has the potential to reach finals or even medal at major competitions.

[@sinhueherrera8984]

Why does everyone always say the same thing “deserves more recognition” She is well recognized by the gymnastics community and she has the medals to back it up, personally I think the world silver AA one was a gift but still, is not like people don’t know her

[@maxglendale7614]

@@sinhueherrera8984 Her routines are rarely featured on international broadcasts. We have to wait on KZbin to see them. She is recognized even though she is not covered.

[@cantor7723]

She finished 4th in the AA @ Worlds in 2019, only about 0.15 out of 3rd. These upgrades would certainly close that gap IF she can perform them well. BTW, there are two definitions of "recognition." Some commenters are concentrating on the wrong one. Consult a dictionary. :)

[@beanieful204]

I hope she gets this skill named after her, she's an incredible gymnast and I'm so happy for how far she's gotten. Go team Canada! 🍁

[@erinames7783]

Yes! Way to go Ellie! One of Canadas greatest!

[@raymakerscalisthenics660]

I've gotten to watch Ellie train in-person (also a gymnast in NS), and it's wild how much work she puts in. So glad this is coming out

[@jamierigglehtd4life_CursedCrew]

I hope she does get it named after her. That would be awesome. I'm so happy for her. She's an amazing gymnast and such an inspiring leader ❤

[@michaelhart7282]

Yeah I still don’t consider a mixed grip catch equivalent to a half turn

[@tomforster9759]

The releases with this type of turn were mistakenly labeled "Ricna 1/2" or "Tkachev 1/2", when the correct label should have been Ricna to "cross grip", etc. The reference to the cross grip indicates a turn will take place without implying a complete half rotation is attempting to be accomplished before catching the bar. This type of release has increased risk in two ways: First, if caught too close to the bar the gymnast cannot connect to the next skill and might not have enough swing to perform a kip, hence a very large deduction will result. Second, repeated use of the skill adds more stress on the shoulder of the first hand that catches thus exposing the gymnast to potentially more injury than other releases. Personally, I love this added turn and the potential it creates for more creativity. Two thumbs up!

[@BarbaraWilliamson]

Honestly getting bored with how redundant gymnasts’ routines are. Sick of candlestick mount & wolf turns for instance & these mixed grips are going to get old fast.

[@A.Girl.Has.No.Name.]

You took the words right out of my mouth! Luckily doing the same skill twice (like the wolf turn wolf turn) has been downgraded in the CoP for 22-24, and I believe the candle mount has been downgraded as well.(here's hoping!!) It's a step in the right direction, at least.

[@mht4908]

certain bar combos are also getting old. 2 that I'm so sick of seeing are a piked tkachev + pak + van leuwen (very effective combo tho) and the Chinese healy + ling + piked jaeger. I also think the D+ dismount bonus is not very effective, as most gymnasts already end with a double tuck/pike or 2.5 twist. It would've been better if it was E+

[@lampwick4427]

@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. Actually doing two wolf turns in routine is now banned. So I hate to say this, but good job FIG.

[@lampwick4427]

@@hannahwalmer1124 Personally I'd rather a C/D mount bonus. As you said, everyone does a D dismount anyway.

[@mariella2884]

Uneven Bars are my absolute favourite event so any attempt to diversify skills is exciting! Really appreciate the half-twist explanation. 💕

[@growingwildfitness9670]

Yes ma'am my sentiments exactly

[@laughinlori6893]

My favourite gymnast. I am happy the see Ellie do anything. ❤️ Go Canada 🇨🇦

[@lynwill65]

I'm Aussie and have always liked Ellie. Good for her for continuing to evolve at this stage of her career.

[@centaurw8lifting]

The FIG men’s technical committee killed the Tkachev 1/2 turn skills by making them the same value and same code box as the Tkachev without turn. It will be interesting to see if the Women’s TC does the same after 2024.

[@Victoria-iu5sb]

She’s been credited! She performed it at the Paris World Cup

[@natashaevans2144]

Always love seeing all athletes improvement

[@kevinsam3078]

There have been so many tkatchev variations with half turn im gettin lost, so we have a stalder straddle half, we have a clear hip layout half, we also have a toe on layout half, and now this,

[@Erin78G]

I love Ellie’s gymnastics so i love this! I hope she gets a skill named after her.

[@krisssymac]

Go Canada 🇨🇦 I hope Ellie gets the skill named after her!

[@ReadyToScream0]

Me watching: wow that’s cool… Me thinking about it afterwards: how hard the initial skill is, watching her fully execute the half twist without cheating it, (losing it at this point) to the release on the lower bar… THIS IS ACTUALLY INSANE. AND ONCE SHE CLEANS UP HER LEGS IN THAT TRANSITION ITS GOING TO BE RIDICULOUS 😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@L.JPawtraits]

I think you'll find Beth Tweddle was already doing this a long time ago. But it's still impressive to watch these gymnasts.

[@meizhou9279]

I hope she gets it named after her. These types of skills look like they’re flailing around with their legs apart and toes not pointed. I suppose it’s like the wolf turn - not very pretty but worth a lot of points.

[@KaraChapman]

I'm not a fan of these types of releases; they very rarely look controlled.

[@thesovgc]

This trend needs to be abolished before it's too late. Fix it Jesus.

[@lampwick4427]

Wally coming through with correct takes as usual.

[@laurielynne2006]

Love Ellie! But I really don’t like this trend of x release with a messy half ish turn. It’s so jerky and not pleasing to watch IMO.

[@itchanj]

ITS OFFICIAL NOW YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@demeterried1738]

MY GYMNASTICS COACH USED TO COACH ELLIE BLACK!!

[@99ilana]

I'm not a big fan of the trend but I am a big fan of Ellie so I'm excited for her!

[@francisnguyen6349]

Canadian Artistic Gymnast, Ellie Black is doing her skills name after Elsabeth Black working Uneven Bars.

[@michaelmoore809]

I may be wrong but I think sanne wevers was seen training this as well

[@thecreativegeek7886]

i would love to see it in international competition! :))

[@patrickthies8683]

In Skateboarding we call this a revert (turning 180 while or short After landing) Reverts where hated for about 10 years and are now the hottest shit ever. All it took was a couple of skaters that where stubborn enough to not give a shit and stylish enough to pull it of

[@Kaalyn_HOW]

Fwiw, compared to other gymnasts and their variations of this, Ellie at least gets a quarter turn in, which nearly no one even really tries.

[@growingwildfitness9670]

I actually like the idea of it , if this is executed in the air my Goodness it would bring beauty to the gymnasts combo for sure

[@maxlawrence4223]

Huge fan of Ellie! Love her gymnastics so much and it would be amazing to see her name in the code.

[@danielwood719]

The men made the late turn a deduction.

[@albertitomoon5002]

Can improve the half turn in the air but great to see new skills

[@singsongeric]

Based on how the sport is currently being judged I would absolutely love for Ellie to do this skill and get it named. Is it pretty, and with great technique? No. In the vast majority of the cases with these type of skills, the half turn is not a true half turn, and often times the Yezhova connecting out of them end up looking wonky as well. How many gymnasts do we see do a Yezhova that looks like a weird sideways flop to the low bar?

[@gems.lament]

YESSSS ELLIE!!!

[@sanasgirl]

Id love to see these!

[@samulara9235]

She is a legend 🙌

[@jw6105]

That's look Crazy and Cool !

[@kodaiskorner]

I've met ellie twice before

[@Sauti_science]

Yeaaaaaa good for her!

[@NatGarcia-hj8pq]

I personally prefer chaotic/messy bars that look COOL AS HECK rather than the clean-cut bar composition we are used to now. As a viewer it’s just so cool

[@Ash_xoxo]

That is crazy!

[@praeliora]

He has been doing that in her routine for years.

[@tatimorales1855]

Hi everyone

[@dominikmolloy621]

Who was that in the beginning of the video that looked like she did a double arabian piked half out ? Someone please tell me!....

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

It's Lorrane Oliveira from Brazil

[@dominikmolloy621]

Thankyou so much 💓

[@cheliu564]

so, all kind of 1/2 twist are not genuine? Li Ya, Tweedle, nina derwael......

[@luispalacio1168]

It is not that basic. Grabbing the bar turning ur hand is very difficult Bcse you can slipped easily. You can’t even see the bar. it is a momentum movement same as Navieva half. Any release changing the hand position is dangerous and very difficult

[@Vee-de9bs]

It looks sort of sloppy idk

[@Lenlen-ui9nj]

Hi

[@annettehunter9743]

Unpointed feet ruin the move

[@Lenlen-ui9nj]

Aaaaa

[@leelab8307]

Sorry but not impressed with this type of skills looks half cooked .

[@karentompkins6306]

Visually, I don’t like the look of the skill itself.

[@altioragym]

First

[@Constantin9va]

I hate “half turn (*cough* mixed grip catch) skills. I think that the are ugly and offensive to the eye.