New Skill Pre-Recorded Roundtable: Hear more about Sailing, Taming & Shamanism

[@HolyRaincloud]

Hands down the best developers out of any game ever, because oldschool is so open with the community, it is one of the healthiest ways to go about a game and increasing its longevity, big respect to the entire oldschool team

[@BestFoodReviewFeatured]

You must be dreaming like all osrs players. The developer team are best at plagiarism, copy and paste content from pre eoc RuneScape. I believe the latest “new content” is the korasi sword?😂😂 you guys are goons.

[@XxihewixX]

It's literally turning into rs3. No new thoughts or content.

[@HolyRaincloud]

@@XxihewixX nothing like rs3, my god it never ceases to amaze me how entitled some of you are

[@BestFoodReviewFeatured]

@@HolyRaincloud same! It never creases it amaze me how stupid people can get!

[@XxihewixX]

@@BestFoodReviewFeatured same! It never ceases to amaze me how deep you'll simp

[@benjaminj8642]

Videos like these remind me how lucky we are to have passionate devs that really want what's best for the future health of the game.

[@MrRichManGuy]

Fr you love to see it.

[@DFLWatto]

Seriously, and people complain. What other game has devs that try their hardest to the last little detail to ensure players like the choices that are made for game improvement.

[@DrSharpSaw]

Coming from Guild Wars 2, the amount of interaction players get from developers (on OSRS) is like day and night in comparison. Just this alone makes me wanna stay (not to mention tons of other things).

[@Petolooo]

Yesss!!!

[@Bioniclema90]

and yet people still shit on them. Sad.

[@StefanSu91]

Just poll each skill to be rated from 1 - 10. That way you'll know how the crowd really feels about them while also rating them in order.

[@Icycrits]

This is a good idea.

[@ikerdy]

This is actually a brilliant idea. You get an idea of what skills are liked, which are absolutely hated, and which maybe just need worked on a bit.

[@MrLavatis]

someone didn't do the survey

[@lol0999]

Well for the average internet user there is no inbetween, it's either a 1 or a 10, happens on everything that can be rated like YT before they changed to the like system or Amazon.

[@AA-wq5sm]

Gauging how much you like something with 1-10 is pretty confusing, if anything something more like "not interested/not really interested/indifferent/somewhat interested/really interested" makes more sense

[@Avenge_HiiPower]

This sold me on sailing. The ways it can tie into other skills, the exploring and dungeon crawling, and even potential PvP are very intriguing aspects. The possibilities seem limitless. Really liked the idea of including clue scrolls in that as well

[@shadycat8898]

It's the one of the three with the most interesting potential I feel. Also the PvP options as you said. Imagine sailing prayers lol

[@deer2masacre]

Taming would legit use every skill tho… there is a few sailing wouldn’t plus I mean couldn’t you just do dragon riding as a skill instead idk moving a boat doesn’t correlate with the game besides a few quests… now dragons tho that’s more along the lines

[@janitorizamped]

​@@deer2masacreriding a dragon is so far away from everything RuneScape, you clearly didn't think much about what you were typing.

[@magnopere]

​@@janitorizamped damn. 3000 zulrah kc and you still don't know how to act in social situations

[@janitorizamped]

@@magnopere wut

[@kenny91919]

Shamanism definitely has a big place in the game, but a proper sailing skill could also do wonders. In my perfect world, we'd get shamanism now, at some point followed by sailing, then taming. It kind of also makes sense narrative-wise. We start exploring the seas, then learn the forgotten art of taming creatures.

[@YewJackOSRS]

When talking about shamanism, one thing that comes to mind is if you want it tradeable -- maybe have the tradeable version be a temporary augment and then one you make yourself via the skill is permanent or longer lasting. That means if you don't have a high level you can buy it, but if you do have a high level you get a bit of an added benefit.

[@HavocParadox]

that's a good idea actually. it benefits the economy.. the low levels that cannot make it and creates incentive to level the skill all in one swoop. I will add that i think that the tradable should be less in terms of items to make.. and for a perm effect to take a lot more.. think of it like the Portals in poh.. you can either teleport once and use the runes.. or spend 100x the runes and have free teleports to that location forever.

[@Calzour]

I was thinking a way to do it would be to have everything you need to make say a totem be untradeable but the totem be tradeable, however you would then need say 60 shamanism to apply the totem to say bandos tassets. That way it avoids all the pay to train aspect but you could make money by doing the annoying grindy bit and selling the totem so other players can get the buff by just buying it but need the skill level to actually apply it

[@haydenmaines5905]

Ooh, good idea! Maybe there can be a bit of lore about how if you make it yourself it's attuned to you, thus it's more powerful, but if you get it via trade, it's unattuned, and doesn't get the full effect

[@jakey_pooo]

I can see Sailing taking the longest time to develop and has the most complex systems with the scaling of the current waters. Taming would be the least drastic of the three but would be cool to see passive abilities like picking up marks of Grace or what I thought of a lizard that gives poison immunity. Shamanism could add to the lore and magic of the world. Knowing there could be limitless possibilities of what this skill entails is exciting.

[@LyrialEra]

one thing I definitely need to see from sailing, assuming its the one thats added, is adding the other treasures from olaf's quest which just ends on a cliff hanger

[@TheMcCannic1]

Also let us discover the sea terror mentioned by the folk in the abandoned/frozen village near Wintertodt!

[@bailusmango]

The idea of sailing out to sea and doing deep sea diving and exploring sunken ships or underwater dungeons I think would be an amazing concept for sailing 👀

[@jordanrhystv5291]

If sailing is passed, it would take YEARS upon YEARS for their concepts to come to fruition. We'd never see another update not related to sailing for at least 10 years

[@incorporeality-channel7817]

​@@jordanrhystv5291 lol well, we already see 1 piece of good content every 2 years because 75% of dev time goes to gamemodes that get instantly deleted when they finish, leagues 3 times and deadman mode took massive dev time just for them to be completely removed. So having more dev time dedicated to something permanent is good to me 😅

[@deer2masacre]

Have you ever done any content in the sea in rs…. The swimming animation is clunky and makes you sick… taming ftw wayyy more stuff you could do with them and you could involve them in every skill without breaking the game and make pet drops give bonuses or something so they don’t become outdaded or just a collection log slot..

[@janitorizamped]

​@@deer2masacrehow does taming not break the game? It quite literally is fundamentally changing the way the player plays the game.

[@deer2masacre]

@@janitorizamped that could be said about any skill they they add sailing they could add a boss that drops op weapons or op skilling items soooo legit I just want more fashionscape and be able to show our hours of grid on display not just a number only you will see hence pets that have achievement locked gear just don’t make ‘em op more like a utility or a extension of yourself for gaining xp like if you did agility with pet following he would gain xp too it would be like a mini you

[@ZedGames]

Big fan of sailing and taming! Thanks for all the hard work the team is putting in!

[@DrSharpSaw]

I think Sailing has so much potential and it's so easy to expand on that. For example content like: Sea battles, sea exploration, sea PVP, even SEA RAID bosses. You could also implement that with other skills: sea slayer, sea fishing, construction, crafting, etc... Would really synergize well with everything else. In my mind I see an event where you have to have a certain Sailing level to be able to sail a BIG ship to deep seas and fight a raid boss on that ship doing mechanics and keeping the ship's health in check. And you can take a lot of inspiration from already existing games or films that has sea content in it.

[@wados3579]

Sounds like a minigame to me

[@DrSharpSaw]

@@wados3579 Anything can be either a minigame or a skill. I think. A skill will have much more depth to it than a minigame though.

[@UnknownVir]

The amount of dev time would lock most of the new content for years behind one skill, which seems incredibly unhealthy to me.

[@GoldiekkRS]

I'm sold on Sailing after this. I really liked the secondary rewards from Dungeoneering that gave players access to special islands or areas that also linked into other skills. This could be a way of giving players that piece of Dungeoneering but incorporating it into something we haven't seen before. Really exciting to think about the possibilities.

[@seanmccann3445]

Shaminism - Crandor spirit realm where Elvarg went after you slayed him/her and is now a mini medium level boss that can be farmed with a unique drop table including gathering items for the skill.

[@DickiMoltisanti]

Nice idea. Or crazy archeologist is now like facing hunlef xD

[@madfazesupporterxx5596]

I love how open you guys are with the community, it really shows and I just wanna say I appreciate you all

[@TheKingreiko]

Meet Spiritletics, my Spirit plane locked ultimate ironman, after recently maxing my ultimate ironman i decided to up the ante, to forge my own journey from scratch. No banking. No trading. But this time i can't leave the Spirit plane, all leading up to eventually taking on one of Runescapes biggest challenges... Voting for a new skill.

[@TheKingreiko]

You guys are doing such an amazing job with this, really see the effort you guys are putting into informing everyone. This is such a good pace, really making sure everyone is happy and the ability to go back with minimal resource waste.

[@zed6701]

If sailing was implemented into the game could part of the sea be in the wilderness for ship vs ship combat? Normal pvp in osrs is difficult to learn and can't be changed but this new sailing pvp would be fresh for everyone giving all players a equal chance to have fun in the hardcore pvp we all love about runescape

[@1001History]

Can't wait for 8-way switch harpoon into cannon specs.

[@andyog8252]

I think if they make shipping routes there should be a fast route that is pvp (where fighting can happen and winner gets to loot cargo) vs. longer safe-zone routes

[@StefanSu91]

You can also enhance equipment with Taming. Like with the Ranger outfit, how about if you tame a Fox (like the old Robin Hood animated movie!), every level the fox earns will give you a benefit. Like at max level fox, your Ranger outfit is the equivalent of Armadyl armor if you use the respective arma pieces on it, and while your fox is with you. Or if you have a Bear, maybe you could introduce a new berserker armor that you can only wear with your bear? Or if you have a Black Dragon with you, your black d'hide is better or gives you some effect. IDK. I just want a reason to use non-max equipment! It's also identifiable. If people see you with a max level fox and ranger outfit, they know you basically got armadyl and a companion that does something as well. I wanted Shamanism but you guys sold me. Taming is it!

[@tme98]

It isn't very good if it de-values other aspects of the game.

[@robparker1386]

I am glad to have Kerin there for the experience and trust. But these other two devs I feel have done a really good job here. Well-spoken and I appreciate the way they have delivered the information and the way they are thinking. Thank you Jagex for having the best dev team currently in videogames. It is so rare to find developers make such an effort to work with the players.

[@StrangerOnYouTube]

For sailing. Being able to dock your shop at your own POH is crucial I'd say. Prob at level 50 or something.

[@OldDome]

I love the 3 ideas. In my opinion, sailing is the most needed. The replayability of the unused parts of the map without icons, just dead content, is crucial, would revive the feeling when we played the game for the first time, maybe. I would love that POH had a port, be able to build ships, rowboats, etcetera and be able to sell them to NPCs (UIM character). Also fight in the sea as the Cabin Fever quest, i would love that.

[@vanvantassel7049]

Wow, I thought I made my mind made up on what I was voting on, until I listened to this! Well done and this is very very exciting! 🎉

[@happyhappyaus2128]

Love all of the skills but most keen for Shamanism. Would love to see them all in game.

[@dwasse]

You guys are such a great dev team, such good work on these skill proposals!

[@JustJoshing902]

For me, I want to keep the nostalgic old school feel. No buffs, no bonuses, no special help. The last thing I want is a grindy skill. So for me Sailing sounds the best. The content you could put into one skill without involving other skills a whole lot. Shipping could be content that expands the world, expands the loot table, bossing, PvP, building , customizing. Sounds good for me, I enjoy playable content. Not boosting content.

[@hydra70]

"The last thing I want is a grindy skill." My friend, you are playing the wrong video game.

[@JustJoshing902]

@@hydra70 lmao true. Wrong context... Another very grindy skill.

[@TheKingreiko]

Totally agree. The skill just comes as is. It kind of sticks to it's lane and is its own content. While taming and shamanism mostly rely on altering or helping other skills, which I fear would create a meta where it's better to train shaman so I can then hold some boosting item in my inv for fishing. Or have to train taming so I can go fishing with a bear for way better xp. I fear these would overshadow so much old content.

[@wildyoda2931]

@@TheKingreiko doubt it would

[@JustJoshing902]

@@TheKingreiko my thoughts exactly

[@bilalsyed9641]

25:07 I think a cool idea would be to have some application of a navy for the major cities, like maybe falador has a navy, or varrock, I think there's potential for quests and minigames involving this idea as well, "sailing" is a big part of military strategy, maybe a quest or skilling minigame where you help the varrock navy to protect the city from the meyerditch navy, or maybe different cities in gielinor have alliances with some cities and are in conflict with others, like you said there's lots of potential when we're talking about an update this big, its bigger than adding a new continent or anything we're essentially unlocking the whole water biome so it would be cool to see it having an extensive reach so that involves every type of character, like you said, not just the typical let's become pirates

[@mixuaquela123]

I kinda like the idea but that doesn't really fit into the lore in my opinion.

[@Sparrowly1]

@@mixuaquela123 Dragon Slayer 2 established that they all have navies in the lore tho

[@anderseriksson5603]

Shamanism have a huge potential to help the economy with some items. Use serp helms somehow to give ur torva body venom resistens. But gotta make it untradeble and recharge with scales aswell! Costs 2 serp helms for example :)

[@JojishiAMVs]

This talk did sell me more on Sailing compared to before, as the way of training and the reward space starts reminding me of slayer, in a good way. As slayer basically is being trained by completing tasks, and Slayer could be trained in similar ways. Combine this with the way Slayer is a separate skill from combat, but combat is in general necessary to train Slayer, Sailing could work in the same way. As while the journey is mostly the soul of the skill, it could be trained by a hardened Sailor or an old and rich pirate giving you a task to gather resources, dive to find shipwrecks or defeat x number of enemy ships. Another way it could be compared to slayer is what leveling up the skill means for the content you can access, as Slayer unlocks monsters for the player, sailing could unlock areas, which could hold new creatures or new resources. It really feels like there are endless possibilities for the skill, which makes it feel like something completely different, while still keeping the training method similar to what we know and love. Genuinely a fantastic skill idea

[@cal1540]

I saw the name "Spiritforging" suggested as an alternative to "Shamanism" and it sounds a lot cooler. I don't like the name of the skill currently, but I do like the concept.

[@SpecSpooky]

Shamanism is the coolest idea by far, even if the spirit realm bit gets axed (though i think it would be dope, and we have different realms already to an extent) it would be super cool. I thought I'd hate anything like divination/invention but i love this pitch.

[@GenericDino]

Thank you for the time stamps!

[@joezep]

A great listen to make this slow work day go by. Very excited to see more about this, thanks for sharing your thoughts on these skills.

[@RTMcFly]

As someone who never read or paid attention to the previous sailing pitches, the blog made it seem like a mini game. That said, something about the overview by mod husky shed some great light on the idea. Wish this video would've been released with the blog post! Would've responded differently to the survey. Thanks for all you are doing OSRS Team!

[@6xthprophetbanger154]

If they disclosed all this info, what would be the point of this video then?

[@EKaneGrant]

Shamanism is the best skill proposal, but like they said, the theme for gathering and production skills is doubly important. Engineering/steampunk is the theme. Could also build into dwarven lore

[@lucaspescilavalle2365]

Cavalry. Iron armored horse-rune armored horses. Jousting mini game. Function like pack yack. Ties in with many skills. Stables outside of POH and instances. You can smith the armor, craft the saddle bags. Have your horse pass agility obstacles if you have same level. Hunter with horse. Mining or wood cutting, can hold bones or fish. Adds to combat level.

[@TheTastyPancake]

Kieren you're my role model never change

[@backhand_snipe9943]

I really wanted something akin to ranching, farming but for animals. Taming is...close..ish? But I don't want a companion that I always need to swap out for the optimal one. I want to raise dragons for their hide/bones. Fish, birds for their feathers, etc. Might never happen but it sounded really cool while introducing cross skill content.

[@jrb0]

That is an awesome idea

[@AbduCola]

Sailing went from my least wanted skill to absolutely chomping at the bit for it. I really hope it wins

[@currentcommerce4774]

SAILING BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WERE SO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Avenge_HiiPower]

If shamanism was implemented I would like to see it include the discussed equipment buffs. I'd also be very pro it requiring a certain level and it being a long grind to acquire some powerful buff. As much as I hate grinds for stuff like fighter torso and void set in the moment the satisfaction of having completed it and having a useful untradeable is very rewarding

[@Georgeveen]

Happy to see 'the couch' again. Pre-recorded or not, it just feels more natural than a teams/conference application. But understandable ofc that it is not a given anymore that every jmod sits on the couch for the q&a's and such. :)

[@tanskiii]

Great work team, we are all excited to see what is to come. The transparency and these sit down blogs are awesome.

[@johntim5293]

I like all 3 and I don’t really mind what one gets picks.

[@robertwellsrawbass1249]

Ok so for taming, combat,... specific to range ,imagine your eagle comes off your shoulders and circles the target causing accuracy to increase

[@Calzour]

Can we just get all three skills and a poll question for which order we want them added?

[@curtiss5781]

This new skill might be one of the most impressive things a game company is undertaking, ever. With all the polling and expectations, I think that this will be such a huge piece of the devs' lives afterwards, thinking about how they'll share this on their resumes for years to come is really cool to imagine and witness the process of. Good luck, I hope you all do great (and thank you for wanting to do great)

[@juliangonzalez3749]

Man mod Kieran can really make anything sound awesome. Each time he talks about one of the skills I think “that’s my vote boom. No wait THATS my vote.” So exciting

[@index52]

I love the love they're getting. Twitch Chat is toxic. Glad the enjoyers are usually the silent majority that usually vote. Thank you for even going through this process for a new skill!

[@wildyoda2931]

I just want to say we agreed when the poll system came out that the majority of players decide of updates. 80% of the community wants a new skill so people saying don’t do it realize that this is not just a game you play most people want a new skill and I hope anyone of these releases because I’ll be all for it.

[@SwetyBoi]

Id just like to say Mod Elena is an absolute treasure. Getting her on the team was a great move by Jagex. She seems very knowledgeable and passionate about the game.

[@chuckie14469]

That Jagex hoodie is dope 😎🔥

[@BowserMilk]

I love the Idea of combining other skills to taming would be interesting. Kind of reminds me a bit of invention from RS3 but like if a creature is food driven combine that with cooking, If You're able to do combat with your creature maybe with smithing you can make armor for them, Hunter maybe you're able to locate specific creatures that would be harder to find or only found using the hunter skill. I find the Taming skill could be super interesting and I see so much protentional in it. Veteran players might see it as summoning but when it's more fleshed out and give it time and I bet it would be amazing in the game moving forward. P.S. I want a Monkey Companion >w

[@deer2masacre]

Omg yes we tamers need to come together and campaign it so it passes it’s gonna be so divided I always wanted a pet monkey in rs when I was a kid stuck in f2p and seen monkeys in members on the website so please make my dream come true jagex and the players of osrs ❤

[@Toxinful]

Engaging activity and cool cosmetic rewards are the key moving forward with any skill. Keep the people interested and give them fun rewards to work towards, an equipable shark (like the golden tench), cool armor/clothes similar to hunting gear, multiple activities to adequately train the skill rather than having the best xp be capped at level 70 and having to do the same thing to train until 99. Those are the keys to success.

[@WarShroud]

I already own a ship, its called "The Lady Lumbridge".

[@stephendailey5824]

As a veteran player who's had a subscription since before GWD released (roughly 16 years), all I can honestly say is the talk of a new skill coming to Oldschool is terrifying. I hope whatever is decided isn't detrimental to the game, again.. All of the OG players know what I'm saying. We've all lived through this before. 😩

[@HunkMine]

Honestly hunter and runecrafting were bad skills, but construction, farming, and slayer were awesome additions. I think a skill can be great if it's useful without completely changing the game and fun to train.

[@stephendailey5824]

Although hunter and runecrafting may not be the most fun skills, they have a perfect place and flow naturally well with the rest of the game. Where as these new proposed skills all seem somewhat out of place and could much better be implemented and received as minigames.

[@foghornfoggyface]

This is why Sailing sounds the most appealing. Adds a lot of content in new areas without drastically changing the game world as it currently stands. Compare that to taming where suddenly we'll see animal companions everywhere where there are players or Shamanism where we will probably see players performing rituals regularly around the world.

[@jamesn3122]

@@stephendailey5824 Runecrafting was garbage until GoTR. Hunter is good though imo.

[@brandonsmisek6334]

I like sailing. Lots of possibilities.

[@Im_Tulo]

Petition to put these updates on Spotify 🙏

[@No_Ghrellin]

KZbin premium buddy

[@Im_Tulo]

@@No_Ghrellin got that. Just nice to change what I’m listening to by speaking to alexa.

[@eddyedwards2229]

There should have been at least 5 skill ideas that have not been previously thought of (completley out of the ordinary) I've got a few ideas about new skills that would be a great fit to the game. A new skill called "Guilding" as an example. (A social skill that involves you and your team to build together, mine, smith, woodcut and fight. The 1st idea: You have to establish 5-10 members into your so called guild. To start out players must complete a ritual to bond themselves to the guild creator which in turn will reward them to level 3, (this will establish that you have joined or are familiar with guilding aspects) Players will have to work together within the guild to craft the materials. Lets say, someone on the anvil, someone pushing the materials from one area to another, someone using a furnace, someone exploring the runescape map for unique items. The idea is endless. Building: The guild skill will involve somewhat a new establishment, where the members work towards building the guild hall, killing bosses and making them into trophies, wall mounts ect. (construction level could be useful here) Exp: The guild leader may set certain task into a menu/tomb where the other members can complete for exp. It could have its very own storage area where the members can contribute to the guild hall for exp as well, or a passive exp ratio when mining guild only ore on the map. (refined silver ore) Reward: The skill can allow players to create there own furnaces, anvils (within the guild hall) buildings/tools could have a tier 1,2,3,4 that require a certain level to make. (You could add more options/items with the crafting skill with this) Enviroment: The world could have added trees, ores and boss items that are non tradeable on the g.e (this would force members to have to obtain the items) These so called items are bound to your guild only. I feel like options have not been explored into a huge category and ideas are not that creative (as new content) example.. summoning is pretty much the taming skill just changed a bit.

[@NextStopDeath7295734]

I want all the skills and would be happy with whatever one gets picked

[@wildyoda2931]

Same

[@jensedvinsson311]

Best gaming company! Great job Jagex with all the information regarding the new skill pitches!

[@angus12345]

Shamanism gang rise up

[@nanosum1]

Will we get 3 new proposals if we vote "No" for all 3 of these skill proposals?

[@srlukesino]

Yes, nothing is set in stone yet Even if one skill passes, it's still possible for them to go back and consider other options

[@aleco678]

FIX USA EAST SERVERS .... US LIVING ON THE EAST COAST NOW GET 90 PING INSTEAD OF 30**

[@M0xas_]

​@@aleco678 bruh. 90 ping is better than 130

[@aleco678]

@@M0xas_ you missed the point I live where the servers are located nearly I pay 14$ a month. I should get 30 ping but the servers are broken for me and many others and now we get 80-100. I've played this game for many years on the same ping it's unacceptable for them to do this, let alone without saying anything.

[@aleco678]

@@M0xas_ oh damnit. I feel like a complete moron LOL. I'll leave my comment up It was a typo I meant to say now it's 90 ping instead of 30...., The east coast worlds are pinging to the same spot as the west coast worlds for me and many others right now. Jagex won't acknowledge it.

[@gakguski2270]

Mod Keiran !!! DIRECTOR!!!! YOU GET IT BOI!!! LIVING THE DREAM!!! WHERE RUNESHARK AT?

[@PSYKO-cq1is]

who is runeshark?

[@shaloss6206]

Sailing should implement zones. Something like the Grand Line from the anime One Piece. Only high level sailing with a good hired crew can get you to end game zones. Maybe with the endgame zone being a new city, Atlantis. Make rare crew members, ship upgrades, ship accessories, ship paint jobs, loot chests, possible rewards for defeating enemy pirate groups. Have boss pirate groups that can be soloed with your crew like Blackbeard. Explorable caves and islands for slayer tasks or hidden agility courses. On top of the deep sea fishing and stuff that you can always do. Obviously this is a lot but there are so many ideas for this skill.

[@eleven5287]

thank you for this

[@zundesign3789]

Would love to see fun cosmetics for companions as well! Like if you tame a bear you could unlock or invest (gold sink?) to have a badass looking bear with arrows stuck in it, or maybe be able to change a brown bear to a polar bear

[@AdulAhmad68]

So abuse your pet by shooting it with arrows? 😅

[@sempybandz]

IDEAS: Make there be a section of the sea thats considered in the wildy. This would be a high risk zone with pirates, pvp content (cannons and boarding ships), lochness monster boss (group bossing??)..... so many options but thats just an idea. "DEPTHS OF THE WILDY" or "WILDY CURRENTS". Thoughts????

[@sempybandz]

other ideas: sailing minigame, deep sea scuba diving (treasure hunting/trails is incorporated)... like the ideas are limitless for this skill taming: could have (similar to birdhouses) different homes and areas you can build for creatures, depending on the area.....pokemon has been mentioned... what about pvp companion instances or battles - could you tie it to the pvp arena to make it more active? Hogwarts Legacy had a cool beasts system with areas to "tame", vivariums to give them a home, etc shamanism: this lowkey fits the game maybe the best of the 3 in a way?? The lore aspect is great.

[@1001History]

Take the winner of this round and poll it against 3 more ideas. If it wins again, refine it. If not, repeat.

[@apacheride1952]

Great Job!

[@KillaDot909]

I think there can be an item sink for shamanism and still keep it where items that's give XP directly are not traceable. For example, you would need an item to access the spirit realm to gather the untradeable resources. Everyone would want that item to access the spirit realm, but you can't just stand at GE and use it for XP. You gotta go out and work for it still

[@robdixon9324]

After watching this Q&A I did a complete 180. I liked Taming the most, then Shamanism, and I was against the idea of Sailing. Sailing is now my favourite pitch and Taming my least favourite

[@surfingbilly9654]

kinda same here, shamanism looks easier to implement and pretty cool as well, especially the spirit realm thing. if they can properly pull-off sailing to make it fun, there is heaps of potential there and is less likely to break the game as well then shamanism/taming.

[@tinybirdKam]

ya know taming has had a few examples already like Molch island with the cormorant and the falconry hunting area . heck even the giant Eagles too!

[@deer2masacre]

We need more like Pokémon and more a bond to your pet tho where you can show him off with gear that is achievement locked or skill locked with that pet and that adds a whole nother ge bank standing content and a way to show your stuff off the list goes on catching rare pets shiny pets trains specific skills with your pets combat lv for pets I mean the list goes on imagine it having a agility lv where if you train agility it gets xp too scalable oc

[@TacetTheTerror]

Really hope taming makes it through. Feel like a lot of people are comparing it to summoning despite it having almost nothing to do with how bad summoning was in RS3. If anything, Shamanism is most like the old summoning with how it is trained, gathered, and pretty much every worst part about old summoning just with different resource outputs. Sailing in premise seems cool, but feels like it would work better if it was more of a mix between a minigame and what Zeah is rather than a skill, kind of like how we have dungeons but no dungeoneering, could have sailing based content but no sailing skill.

[@hmoadhajali]

God damn. Y’all are legends. For real. Thank you for making us a fun game.

[@SkyMan-Harm]

WOOOO

[@Cloudstriff101]

I play a lot of different games and I have to say that the level of communication, acceptance of feedback, and overall willingness to listen to players is so different with OSRS. For example; another game I play has a lead developer that outright puts all criticism into the same box as "Haters" and has a very "I know better than you" attitude. Popularly requested features are either ignored or monetized. Not to mention any criticisms about balance are outright disregarded despite players leaving due to their mishandling of said balance. The grass is really greener on this side of the fence.

[@Knelson123]

100% voting sailing if it's not instanced. Imagine just sailing up on a dude chilling in the middle of the ocean and he's deep sea fishing. Plus you can go diving and island hopping. Get sailing xp from anything you do so it's like training a whip on controlled and you don't have to do any one training method.

[@Silent_Depths]

If you guys add sailing and make it so you can marry the captain from the desert mining camp or the old pirate who lollygags at Port Sarim and take them to a honeymoon trip around the seven OSRS seas with your seaworthy vessel I'll damn sure make time for the game again after 6 years. :D Sea Dogs 2 (Pirates of the Caribbean 2003 game) is still the best sailing game ever released with or without mods so I would imagine you could study its gameplay loops for reference.

[@Jayy9090]

I was not into Sailing at first but this video has opened my mind to potentially accepting it. Honestly, I like most of Summoning, even the training of it. I don't think the charm gathering and imbuing should be gone. I think Taming completely missed the mark. Taking care of a pet would feel too much like a chore. Even having to feed a kitten and play with it every 20-30 mins was annoying and they say they want to make it even more interactive than that. I was most excited for a "companion" type skill but Taming seems to be the worst one of them all so far. I made a small post on reddit a while ago explaining how they could rework summoning and I believe its far better than the current Taming pitch.

[@daviddawson9580]

Mod Light ❤ 😍

[@WarScythe_XD]

All three ideas look great tbh.

[@kaelorbennett8036]

Great work y'all

[@beybladerocks7]

Different teams

[@fissionphoenix4995]

From commentary I've seen from fellow players, we're all interested in the content but not necessarily as a new skill. I like the idea of Taming as a skill but people argue hard that it should be part of hunter to obtain the animals and part of farming to care for and raise them. Sailing seems like something that would make a really good minigame to unlock new islands to visit rather than being a good skill. If anything maybe use construction and crafting skills to build and maintain the ship. I personally don't like some aspects of shamanism but that's the one some people are viewing as being a decent skill if not something that could be distilled into stuff that has some herblore/magic basis. I was around for the introduction of Summoning to the original game but didn't stay around long enough to truly dig into it. It appeals to me conceptually and so does Taming. Taming sounds to me like "animal companions done right this time," which is something I personally want this game to explore moreso than anything else. I hope that one way or another we can explore that idea in osrs. Whether it's with the taming skill or adapting the concept into other skills. Thanks for reading.

[@Snakebite420]

Sailing could be a pretty good item sink as it takes ALOT of wood & nails to build one :P let alone repairs/sinking

[@MrModernKetchup]

I JUST WANTED TO LIKE ONE SKILL AND YOU MADE ME LIKE THEM ALL!! damn you how am i gonna choose one now O.O

[@hyskylife]

Skill Pitch-Specialist. adding a new skill would function likena job systemnsimilar to popular rpg games like final fantasy. How it could work For example sailing would be a specialist fisherman unlocking the job Sailing. Shamanism the job of a herblore and magic. And taming the job of a farmer.

[@personaldeviant]

About the world map: I think maybe it would be best to keep oceanic and land as separate maps so that the world map isn’t completely littered with icons. Then include in the display options to have them overlay if the player chooses. About other games that might draw inspiration: has anyone at the team ever played ‘sid meiers pirates!’ ? It is also an old game like osrs, and I feel there is some aspects in that game that could give some inspiration to osrs sailing. if nobody on the sailing team has played it yet, it is worth looking in to. The game puts you in a ship and out to sea within the first minute of gameplay.

[@meller7303]

I hope in the spirit realm, the vault door under varrock West Bank is opened It would be such a call back to when I was 10-11 and wished I could take everything in there

[@matthewhauser9225]

New skills are for the people

[@ericknutson3296]

shamanism could finally explain exactly why we respawn in the world. i wanna find that out

[@7ehNP]

Our Father, Andrew Gower, hallowed be thy name

[@serisak]

I've always liked the idea of sailing, but there's no reason in should be as skill. It's a minigame. Taming could go one of two ways, either it's a skill unto itself like hunter and doesn't add anything to the game as a whole, or it completely changes the meta and becomes pretty much required as a competitive benefit. I'm on the fence about shamanism, again it would add to the meta and become a requirement for competitive gameplay, but as long as it doesn't train like divination, I think it's the most likely skill that players would embrace.

[@AustinKnowsStuff]

I Really am interested in the enhancements rewards side of Shamanism.. So.. maybe it becomes worthwhile to smash a torva plate, crystal armor, dragon equipment or Barrows items into dust, so that you can make something with the skill that is tradeable. Breaking down the item literally gives you the essence of the item, in stackable form. You can use this essence toi make oils,saps,salves,tinctures (call it an additive) to add to various equipment, potions, or food! Maybe buying a basic form is tradeable but once used on the item/food/pot it becomes an untradeable item locked to your character. But if you want the maxed boost, longest lasting effect, or greatest increase in DPS then youll have to gain the level to create that on your own. Imagine a prayer pot that could give you an additional +10 def levels, or increased hp regen, of course even a basic Percent boost to the points restored. Perhaps Armor or equipment boosts could be in like.. oil form "You oil your Crystal axe with Ancient oil, awarding you 1% exp gained in prayer exp." and get a buff for maybe 4 hours. Imagine an additive applied to armor that increases its Prayer points. "Holy oil" Your proselyte slayer gains just grew. Can make better boosts, but theyre untradeable but still degradeable. I think tying this all into the spiritual realm could be amazing. Maybe in order to apply an additive to an item you need to visit the realm, or perform a ritual. Then simple upkeep could be with the base item. Call the items "Sanctified/UnSanctified.." to denote their charged status. Ability to face different bosses, explore different parts of the world in a way we havent seen would be amazing. 10/10 would love to explore the skill already

[@dux4416]

My withcrafting idea about tuning items is basically that.

[@sinax2]

Idea for sailing: randomly spawned islands appear on the map and players must navigate to find them.

[@1001History]

After watching this roundtable, I think I've been sold on taming. The excitement and keenness that the mods seem to have for this skill is promising. I fear shamanism has too much potential to break the game/meta. Sailing seems to have the most diverse content potential, but I don't think it'll be fun after like an hour, and it sounds too much like slayer contracts to me - "hey go to this island and collect 10 bananas for me". I'd much rather raise a bear and have it follow me around.

[@SupachargedGaming]

Sailing has so much choice for content... because none of it's tied to the skill. Travel to an island and fight a boss? That's bossing, not sailing. Do a treasure hunt / clue scroll thing? That's a cluescroll/treasure hunt thing... not sailing. Find new fishing spots? That's fishing, not sailing. The actual "content" of sailing is... building ships, okay, fair enough. Another construction-esque gold sink? Travelling, which wouldn't give xp apparently...

[@ThisUploaded]

Rank choice voting is the obvious way to poll the skills, right?

[@kmb1800]

i think the most obviously thing to make taming new stuff compelling is to make "shinies" or rare cosmetic variants of a pet. it's the MOST popular thing for adults that play pokemon, even more so than competitive battling.

[@OppositeToUp]

Shamanism has by far become the one I'm most excited for. It already feels the most fleshed out, and also the most flexible as well as for where it could go. Feels like Shamanism is a bit of a mixture of divination, archeology and invention from rs3. All of which didn't feel like fully fleshed out skills on there own in RS3, but all work really well together. One thing I want to say is that they said that the est xp in invention is the item sink, but that's actually the slowest xp for invention.

[@janitorizamped]

What

[@LOLcanIwenLots]

Ranked-choice voting pls (didn’t read the blog btw)