New SkilSaw Mag77 Worm Drive: Fixing what isn't broken?

[@anthonysmith4600]

As a IBEW tradesmen for 43 years, I love watching your channel and how we both pass on the tricks of the trade. Something you cant learn in a school.

[@macattack9041]

You have to struggle and screw up a lot to learn the real tricks old timers share with us and I appreciate it to the bone.

[@killnme6212]

Ha!! I’m an inside wireman and I love watching this guy and his knowledge and carpentry skills. I wanted originally to frame houses but saw the electricians came in knocked out their work in like 3-4, 2 day visits and they had nice tools and truck. A good living being a tradesman.

[@neilw.7153]

I recently picked up an old Skil HD77 Pro made in 1985, in the original box with all the manuals and even the original blades still covered in the gel teeth covers. The guy I bought it from used it once to build a very tiny shed then let it sit in his garage. I paid $40 for it. Being only 18 and with the dreams I have, it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Brand new saw for only a couple bucks.

[@1northsparrow246]

Take good care of it and you will have it when your are 38. Don't forget to change the oil once in a while. Most importantly, work safely because construction is one of the most dangerous occupations out there.

[@gyrateful]

My 77, bought in 1985, had a stuck guard, because I forgot to wash it after wet-cutting 200' of concrete at full depth. 35 years of abuse, and it is still the best tool I own. Only saw that gang cuts 3 sheets of plywood all day, and eager for more. I put a new cord, gear grease, and brushes on it last year; the grease still looked good, the brushes were less the half worn. Cutting concrete and the brushes had over 1/2" left after 34 years. Damn good saw.

[@popaabert]

I had six skill saws all brands . I now have seven , A new SKILL SAW thanks to you ,GOOD deal.

[@HandToolRescue]

I'm actually restoring the first version of the Skilsaw Model 77 at some point next year. Gonna be shiny!

[@anchorbait6662]

Really? Thats awesome to hear, I'll be looking forward to seeing that video when you finish it. Thanks for all the great work you do. :)

[@dagoonite]

Yes! You have no idea how much I'm looking forward to that. Okay, so I look forward to all your projects, but still.

[@Argondo]

by chance the one AvE have picked apart ? :3

[@spencerdahl5281]

Any idea when it was made? I was given one years ago, a few months back I called Skil to ask and to my surprise (and delight) it’s mfg date was 1981!

[@William48151623]

I was just thinking how cool it would be for you to restore one of these and boom, here you are in the comments.

[@recryption620]

you sir are very knowledgeable i have worked in factories my whole life but i would have loved to learn under someone like you. true american craftsman

[@tonybaggett1984]

BOLTR! I feel a collaboration coming👍🏻

[@tonybaggett1984]

Sorry I'm a horrible speller thanks for the heads up.

[@herbstwerk]

I don't know... it's a tool to be primarily used on filthy tree carcasses after all.

[@tonybaggett1984]

He already took apart a Festool track saw. The holy grail of wood pixies everywhere.

[@TheSlywright]

He just made a video on patreon yesterday comparing a new and old skil saw because of this video.

[@Styrak]

AvE has already taken apart the new SkilSaw, in June. In fact it was linked in the sidebar for me -------->

[@LTT.Official]

I said it many times before but I don't know if you ever saw it. Thank you Scott for the knowledge you impart on us. I have learned so much from you.

[@TNWoodwright1]

I'm 70 years old and cant remember not having a 77. Had to watch the sky hook three times. Outstanding

[@guyjones4936]

I often find it fascinating who tools become regional. Up until I went to Colorado for a year, I had never even seen a worm drive Skilsaw. I grew up on construction sites, working with my dad, granddad and uncles. They all used direct drive saws. Heck, I had never even seen them in the tool stores here. Out west, every carpenter worth a damn has a worm drive saw. I own two corded direct drive saws and two cordless ones. They have never let me down, even cutting 6 x 6 lumber, but I can see the advantage of the power of a worm drive in some cases. Great video and I will be watching for the follow up video.

[@joshknauer7601]

That is awesome of you to plug AvE.

[@bearriver685]

Josh Knauer That right there is the Cockford Dolly

[@acrinsd]

Cockford Ollie :)

[@matthewshannon6946]

I heard of this channel through Ave One of a great many things he has shown me!

[@lucasenglish8767]

what i'd give to work on the same site as both of them at the same time

[@kojomensah7474]

Is the whole series up for sale I mean the house that you are going to build step by step??

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

Yep.... I had one of the old old Skil worm drive saws. Got it used, and I don't remember where, back in 1975 when we started our house, also had a smaller 6 1/2" homeowners saw, but the big worm drive got used for all the heavy stuff. Gave the saw to my son in the early 90's when he started his house, as I had a newer, lighter 7 1/2" regular drive Skil and I still have it !!! Great saw for the money !!!

[@brystonfranke1691]

I bought my worm drive skilsaw at an old carpenter's auction who had passed away and its great, just like these videos.

[@OvelNick]

"they've never let me down, but I've let them down" I can't begin to explain how much I've loved your channel. Having just found it a few months ago my only gripe is with every video I watch I feel cheated by my ignorance in the youtube craftsmen channels that I gave up on 7 or so years ago. I get a very familiar rush of interest when you talk and give advice. My grandfather who was a builder for 60+ years peaked my interest and taught me everything. In 2010 he passed. Thanks for the channel!

[@RickHowell89]

Made a comment about AvE, but I didn't watch until then. Love him and his reviews.

[@lukebrown4184]

I bought one, and it is very very nice. I leave the 60T finish blade on my sidewinder, and use this for all of my regular “rough” work. My first worm drive saw, and I love it.

[@rightlanehog3151]

If you are right-handed, the logic of a worm drive will be immediately obvious.

[@stephenarling1667]

Same here. Keep the finish blade on my drop-shoe Milwaukee, the framing blade on my Skil 77.

[@Jason-uz8hj]

LOVE mine! Had it for over a year. Been using worm drives for 20 yrs. In spite of my love for it, I HATE the new depth marks, easier to read the old way. The table/bed is not as strong as the steel ones, but that is the trade off for lighter weight. Btw, I haven't dropped the wrench out of mine yet. I still love it! PLEASE DON'T EVER STOP DOING VIDEOS, I love them more than the saw!

[@sammy2840]

Love your stuff! If a guy doesn’t attach his wrench to the chord...he’s never lost one! Have my Dad’s SkilSaw (don’t use it!)! It must be 70 years old! He was a Master Carpenter and only used Skil and Craftsman! He’d cry today at the quality of today’s tools!

[@jamesbanana6773]

My saw (The same as the new one he's reviewing) has been through about 2.5 years of framing. I've dropped it several times and the table is still true. The wrench (Which he's put in upside down) has never fallen out. I regularly check if the table and blade are still a 90 degree to each other when I need to cut a beam and IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE. The only thing thus far I've had to replace was the trigger and that took me about $12 and 10 minutes to replace. I partially blame myself because I routinely hit the trigger when it's un-powered as some sort of weird tick so probably 30% of the pulls were unnecessary and it could have lasted another year. The newer models are still a solid tool.

[@user-ed5jh3ff6u]

Framed many years started with all metal skil now have latest LT as do all the carpenters that I know, this gentleman reminds me of a man I worked with for many years, tough, knowledge and genuine. Definitely a dying breed.

[@davidwvolz]

Got a lot of heavy job site miles out of my gray SkilSaw I bought in 96'. Finally stopped working about a year ago, so I changed the cord, switch and the oil for the first time and it's been working flawlessly ever since.

[@rightlanehog3151]

20 years between oil changes and it still works? That is impressive.

[@spacecowboy2k]

Scott, love the idea of coming back to this 1 year later. Reviews aren't reviews until you've had REAL time with something to know. Looking forward to it! Also, so glad you plugged AvE. Skookum as frig.

[@2010stoof]

I agree I can't wait to see your thoughts after the year. I'm eyeing a skil saw and I can buy either right now but curious your opinion before deciding between the magg77 and the new spt77wml. Funny they have 3 new ones now. Spt77w (aluminum and black handle) spt77wm (red handle) and spt77wml (red handle and 17% lighter than mag77) Not sure about the wm version but it's probably identical to the mag 77 with mag shoe but aluminum housing while the wml has all magnesium

[@masterVideoContent]

AVE is the best reviews for tools. he shows the parts and puts his 2 cents in and you can see how well it will last and work.

[@masterVideoContent]

link to the review kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWfJe2uue6mMia8

[@leftymalonewertyu]

Love the look at the new saw. I am still going to use my old Skilsaws till they give up the ghost. One of Mine has been in use for 35 years.I don't build custom homes any more but when I did I ripped many a sheet of plywood with the old reliable Skilsaw. P.S. The tables are always bent.

[@JS-DeepStar]

I bought a HD77 Commemortive Edition Skilsaw in 1988...The guys on the job site laughed at my golden saw, calling me the Man with the Golden Gun. Well I am still using that saw today. Been framing for 35 years with that saw at my side. Best tool I own. Love the Essential Craftsman, keep the vids coming...

[@rightlanehog3151]

Your saw was made in Chicago. How often do you change the oil?

[@JS-DeepStar]

about four times a year, using Skilsaw oil. Bearings are still tight and true and the worm shows no noticeable wear. This freaking saw is bullet proof.

[@rightlanehog3151]

That's what I call a proactive preventative maintenance program. The funny thing is, the Skil brand lubricant is still made in the USA.

[@JS-DeepStar]

I have used the Skil oil the whole time. I change it a lot because my saw is used 6 days a week. Production framing Monday through Friday and then at home on the weekends.

[@rightlanehog3151]

That is a testament to a well-made, well-cared for tool. As someone mentioned in the comments, there were a couple of those Golden HD77s (still new in the box) recently listed on Craigslist Chicago but they have since been sold. I believe the asking price was $300.

[@wayfastwhitie455]

To your right there looks to be a new cord for it. I remember you talking about the first thing you do is add a longer cord and a sky hook. Yes please keep us informed on how you like it

[@samekhoff6152]

I have kept my wrench angled up for only a single year but it has stayed in without piping out as a carpenter using this saw daily. All in all great review. And 1 year does not mean it won't in the future

[@ndnman1787]

I have worked with the latest 3 generations of Skilsaw wormdrives. I must say, the gray tank is the best for ripping lumber into straight lines, The older RED is great for Cutting Rough Wood, the younger RED is the best for Precision cuts and All-Day use. My only problem is the tendency of the Saw Table breaking on the new RED. Right beside the blade in the front and next to the Rip fence opening. Skyhook permanently attached is the BEST idea so far from BOSCH. I thoroughly enjoy ALL your videos and your tips. Continue making videos, educate the World! Thanks

[@secret0sounds]

Paul Atencio My new one's table cracked also, on my second and we'll see how long it lasts.

[@ndnman1787]

I still have my first from '02 running strong, just changed the cord from 6' to 30'

[@zrobotics]

Mechanic by trade, so I don't use a saw often enough to not have worn out the antique i inherited, but is that a common enough problem that there would be a market for an aftermarket steel table to replace cracked ones, or is the saw too much of a POS for that to be worthwhile?

[@lordaleksandre]

Bosch sold the trademark. It's Chinese through and through now. FWIW.

[@riverrat1149]

I have every saw he has on the table also.I hardly use the new mag.I pull it out for framing roofs.I never use my old mag anymore because the table is bent just from laying it down all day.My go to is a 1987 grey tank.It just feels good in my hands at cuts true.

[@gregghernandez2714]

"Chrome will not get you home." I love that. My garage is filled with tools that I have picked up at swap meets, thrift stores, etc. The only criterion is that they still work, and are well built, no junk. One of my prize possessions is a long steel level that my father used to work when he was doing brickwork. He built many projects (including our fireplace, and family room) with his hand tools and some power tools. You two would have gotten along well, I am sure of that.

[@anchorbait6662]

Love the AVE shutout! Not that he needs it, but it's just nice to see my favorite channels respecting each other. That's soo much Mr W. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas. Plz give us a update once you get more trigger time on the NEW SKILLSAW. :)

[@carlosgavino6874]

Today I received a mag 77 skilsaw from my boss Tod I explained to him how I needed a 7 1/4 circular saw and he told me to grab the mag 77 out of the trailer and take it home I oiled the guard and worked it free and the gear oil was topped off perfectly when i brought it home I installed a typical diablo blade and used it omg it has power and smoothness the weight of it and old looks vanished instantly as I sliced through 2x6s man was it built good naturally I searched reviews on KZbin and this is by far the best personal use and review on this saw thank you so much for posting and I'm glad a professional tool his time to demonstrate years of service these saws offer

[@nalurash2787]

I have that same Craftsman saw given to me by my grandfather. Thanks for making great videos. Take care

[@Urbicide]

I bought mine back around 1985/86. Paid $100 on sale.

[@carrollnorwood5133]

I hope more people on KZbin become more like you it’s a simple time with simple people this simply know if they’re talking about not trying to get famous only the facts love you brother

[@clockbuilderhg]

About 10 years ago, Skilsaw moved production of their worm drives over seas and changed from a 13 amp motor(HD77) to a 15 amp motor (SHD77). I'm a bit leery of buying imported tools if I can buy American made instead, even if it means looking for a decent used tool. One of my reasons is that Milwaukee moved production of the Hole Hawg drill to China around 10 years ago. I've heard from too many people who used an old USA made Hole Hawg for 20 years, then bought a brand new China model and burned it up in a very short time. I bought a new HD77 back in 2006 and it was made in Chicago. A great saw. This past summer I wanted to buy a Mag77, so I ended up buying a very good condition used HD77M (USA made). I haven't heard of any major quality issues with the SHD77 saws but I preferred to look for a saw that I knew for sure was the best quality. Parts are still readily available too. I've heard a number of people remark that the old 13 amp Skilsaws had more power than the other 15 amp saws of the day so I have never had any problem with 2 less amps. I've never stalled a worm drive.

[@davidhughes5369]

I was going to mention the Holehawg myself...We use them for mixing up cement coatings for faux rock coatings and they are almost impossible to burn up! You could mix it so tight it was almost like dry pack! The made in China ones don't even compare! We mix up like 60 55lb bags a day & the old Hawgs could do it all day every day! Change the brushes, maybe a new cord or the switch would start acting up cause it got too much coating on them. The China versions are smoking after 3 months!

[@FromThe3PointLine]

If you want a USA made worm drive saw, you should have just bought a Rigid brand, those are USA made

[@bryaningle6034]

I actually bought a display model Skilsaw a few years after they started making them in China. I already had two American made Mag77s but bought the third one anyway.

[@sdrammm696969]

Nice to see that you take care of your tools and keep them after they are retired.

[@chriswebb810]

Love the way you deliver your info, love the phrasing and matter of fact demeanor. Love your videos.

[@goldenbergconstruction1656]

Good vid. I also admire that you can still pick the saw up and wang it around like a loaf of bread. I can't anymore.

[@rodavision]

Ave and Essential Craftsman are two of the best channels on KZbin! I love that you gave a nod. Safety Squints On!

[@christopherdeyoe238]

Wasn't too long after watching your top 10 ten vid that I was heading down the road and my 14 year old DeWalt circular saw decided to jump truck on the highway. I realized my partner was missing when I got to the job site. After backtracking with zero luck, I had to go make a purchase....doh. I remembered your top 10 and made the decision to buy Mag 77. What a beast! Absolutely love that tool....only thing, it is not the one in this video....it has a grey handle....anyway, thanks for the tip, Scot!

[@jcs6347]

Hi, AVE sent me over and I subscribed, thanks!

[@SweeturKraut]

On this man's advice I bought one of these. Just got it in the mail yesterday. I've got a few big projects around my newly purchased home on the horizon. I told my wife this saw will pay for itself in the coming months.

[@NickelSpeedShop]

Thumbs up for the AvE plug!

[@ALSomthin]

I had one of the original skill saws my father had. From the 50s It had a big metal box. I treasured it because he used it build our home. He built our home all by himself every night after he came home from work. It took him two years working by himself. He gave the saw to me. I was doing some work on a house I was getting ready to move into and somebody had a key and came in and took it along with my kids toys.

[@jackbrennan3625]

I'm glad your going to take a look at the new one. After watching ave's video, I am very interested to see how it hold up. Here in chicago, you can get old ones on craigslist that are fairly affordable.

[@rightlanehog3151]

His old saws were made in Chicago.

[@ravenstarver1360]

These new ones are made in China... since about 2010

[@royster432]

If you purchase one I would advise getting the HD77

[@alienhexican8017]

I was glad to see you lay the saw on it's side when you were using it. One of the few lessons that stuck with me from trades school; many old timers took the guard off their saws, never set that thing on the shoe!

[@andrewcarr2431]

"Chome will not get you home", man you just keep reaching into that endless bag of great sayings...

[@Irishmacwoof]

you should meet my dad its nice to see the older guys talk about there first circular saw. I remember my dads 9in makita spent so much time mounted upside down on a table working as a table saw.

[@MrTooldaddy]

Great video. I like that you gave AvE a shout out. I enjoy you're videos, and appreciate the time and effort you put into them!

[@thomasgreen8532]

I have a gray one that I have had for decades, she is battle worn but still works great, still my go to saw for most things. I fed my family with it too. ran or shine it was alway rock solid. I want the Mag but could never justify the cost when the saw I have still works great. There is something about having a tool that every time you pick it up is going to work they way it should.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Amen.

[@joshrice2229]

Most enjoyable KZbin channel, period!

[@gramursowanfaborden5820]

eh, it's educational, relaxing and generally wholesome viewing with a genuine guy doing genuine stuff, but i wouldn't be absolutist like that.

[@joshrice2229]

Well maybe you would not, but I would, LOL!

[@gordonbenko8304]

Hey scott, my go to saw is the skill625 worm drive- smaller ,lighter than the 77 if you take the guard off you can put on a 7 1/4 blade on it. Not recommended for the novice. I’ve been doing it that way for over 30 years. I just retired with all my fingers.

[@gordonbenko8304]

I forgot to mention the 625 is a worm drive

[@markkoons7488]

I've watched dozens of your videos and though I spent 50 years working wood and steel (and still continue) I enjoy and learn something from every one of them. Thank you.

[@BrigT262]

I went to buy one of these new version mag 77's. After looking into it, learned it's made in freaking china! No thank you!! Loved the MO TAB blip!

[@saltydroog854]

"Why would I have even considered being...put off, or critical, of advancing technology in my construction tool?" Wise sentiment. Now think, "What's on my feet?" J/K Absolutely love the channel. I was a follower back before the original spec house announcement. I lost access to me KZbin account when I had to get a new device and couldn't get on my account. so I'm just now going through and re-watching your content. I'm so glad to see you doing so well.

[@HandToolRescue]

You feed your family Skilsaws? ;)

[@Scubadog_]

It's what he uses to cut the sandwiches.

[@brainstorm4207]

no, he feeds his family the LUMBER he cuts with the saw. I thought that was obvious

[@HolzMichel]

they're quite tasty once you've acquired the taste

[@dtrrtd774]

Particularly when you come from a long line of carpenter ants. Comedic license - yeah, they don't eat wood like termites, but termites are never funny.

[@LocoAsasino]

HolzMichel lumber or sandwiches?

[@rayeddy528]

Another great video Nate and Scott !!! Thank you all !!! Be safe my friends and God bless you and your families !!!!! Eddy

[@trentdrummond3147]

hey, the two people I support on patreon in the same video! what are the chances!

[@HogsHeadStudios]

Two outta three ain't bad ;)

[@cubancigarman2687]

I should have bought the 77 years ago! My wife asked for another ring for her anniversary so I finally bought a 77(told her she didn’t need another trinket) lol! I was really surprised how well it handled. I have an American made skilsaw circular I paid 60$ back in 1998 and I’ve used it to even cut concrete, still got it! The mag 77 is quite a winner for a right handed man's tool. It won my decision to purchase it and I’m not regretting it. I would have to say that you should have been compensated for reviewing this saw for Skilsaw!

[@cottonmonroe3435]

Ave sent me over

[@-tr0n]

Never had a need for a Skilsaw (more of a 5" makita rat tail kinda guy) but I still watched the whole video. Sign of a good content creator right here. Keep up the good work.

[@DroneClipper]

Love your videos man! They don't make them like they used to, there are certainly some improvements, but cost cutting is pretty rampant, too. I don't see why they can't make something slightly pricier, like 20 to 25%, but that doesn't cut corners. Nothing worse than a tool breaking down because they are trying to save a few pennies on a small part. This is about power tools in general, not SkilSaw in particular.

[@FunkYoLifeUp]

I’m a carpenters apprentice in eastern Canada, you are my go to for evening KZbin videos as well as ave and his boltr episodes. Watching you mention him in one of your videos was just too cool man.

[@TileNation]

"They spent a lot of effort on appearance" it always grates on me too.

[@Rockpil]

I bought one recently, bought a sky hook too just out of habit. Pulled it out of the box and said “hey they already have one on there” glad they finally decided it was needed.

[@greenley77]

AvE! FTW Great channel

[@colsoncustoms8994]

focus you phack

[@JesseWright68]

AvE gets old in a big hurry.

[@michelsimard1065]

greenley77 It shurely tchoutche's

[@TVcarpenterGuy]

how dare you sir

[@rickrudd]

Where was aVe? I missed it entirely!

[@wwrite]

Love AvE, there’s nothing like a man who’s about a stick and a vise!

[@ThaiXLe]

Check the gear oil level! The new one I bought last month was so low that hardly any oil coated my pinky when I checked.

[@franknowakowski3103]

I have one of my Dad's old Skil-Saws. Worm drive, sent back to SS in the early 70's for a rebuild. NO idea how old it is , but MY DAD surely fed my Family with that saw. Like You fed YOUR Family with your saw. I'm no Craftsmen, but do occasionally use it for home projects. Every time I hear it run, it reminds me of my Old Man, on the job, building homes.

[@marvincarvin1846]

Despite what Norm & Tommy might think, the SkilSaw77 is a framer's best friend. Still have my grey tank, although it has been demoted to concrete cutting. That happened in '87 when the brought out their gold 50th anniversary model. I bought two, with consecutive serial numbers. One is still in the box, and the other is my daily driver. Norm & Tommy don't know $hit!

[@redsolocup3644]

Amen!!

[@mfcfugg3081]

Hahaha I have the gold one too! It was still made in 'murica!

[@itmeurdad]

Just curious, what did they say? I am a huge TOH fan and never realize they'd even addressed it.

[@marvincarvin1846]

Not sure if they have ever said anything, but they always use sidewinders.

[@rightlanehog3151]

It was made in the Land of Lincoln to be specific.

[@Hubbs3of6]

Just wanted you to know that I bought a new skill saw. I bought the SkilSaw Mag77 Worm Drive at Home Depot. After your review I made the decision. I have had a Sliksaw 5150 for 35 years. I'm a homeowner DIY so I don't use it often. I was frustrated with the old one and amazed at how much better the new one works. Thanks for the review.

[@leonardorojas1781]

I simply love the design of this new Skill saw. I know when I get it imported to Peru, my coworkers will want to take pictures of themselves with the saw! Haha What concerns me the most is that the base could break "easily". I'd like to watch your review of it after used. Please leave a link to the video, it's been more than 2 years!

[@LanceHanlonOutdoors]

I have the Mag 77 and it was my first saw I bought for building. I saw a guy show up with a Black and Decker one day and this thing had no guard on it, talk about scary. I handed him my Mag 77 and he was so impressed with the saw he went out on lunch and bought one. It truly is a work horse and hasn't let me down once.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Removing a blade guard makes as much sense as cutting out the seat belts from your car.

[@LanceHanlonOutdoors]

Exactly...

[@jaredwaters4633]

Great review. I've been wanting to get one since your first mention of the MAG 77. I have a Milwaukee Circular Saw but I hate having the blade on the right side. I would like to give a wormdrive a go.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Use the extra weight of the worm drive to your advantage. If you are right handed having the blade on the left side makes complete sense and you will wonder how you lived without it for so long!

[@jordanbergmann4067]

Its all fine and dandy till youve gotta swing that worm drive above your head and make a cut on an eave return 25' up on a ladder.

[@robertwagner4375]

I purchased a Mag 77 because of this video. I used to think I sucked with a circular saw... then I used this thing of beauty... wow, what a game changer. Thanks for the review.

[@17Scumdog]

Just got mine yesterday, finally retired grandpa's old saw he gave me 15 years ago. Absolutely love it! Gotta say of all the worm drives I've used the mag 77 has the best balance by far, which makes a huge difference when you're using it all day long.

[@ravenstarver1360]

They made it in China... that was their idea of improvement. 1/4 the production cost = Same old price More profit for Chinese owned Skilsaw

[@rightlanehog3151]

@L F Sad but true.

[@rufuscrackle]

@L F Skil was sold to Bosch bunch of years ago. They are not copies. They started making them in CHina when factory in my town closed. Quality is worse since as I was told the production is not automated like it was here. Quality here was fantastic

[@Urbicide]

I was looking at a Bosch SDS MAX hammer drill at a Menard's. The price seemed very reasonable, until I found the microscopic-sized "Made in China" hidden on the box. It did not come home with me. Black & Decker bought Porter-Cable, & shifted tool production primarily to China, with the better tools made in Mexico.

[@roughout]

I just came across an old model 367. It's heavy but it's smooth running. It's a beauty. I paid $20 for this sweet heart.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Well done. They are out there on Craigslist and presumably at auctions and estate sales as well. I have Porter Cable 6 3/4 worm drive that must have sat on a shelf for over 40 years. When you find an old saw without a carbide blade you know it has been resting a while.

[@Theguerrillasguide]

The wrench is still in mine, although my table cracked when dropped

[@AdaptivePrep]

I scanned to see if anyone already commented on the on-board wrench and couldn't find any, and yeah - it's a few-year old vid I get it. But here's an observation/important detail: Scott (EC) you've got the on-board tool wrench upside down my man. There's a decent notch on the proper side which engages with a tension bar on the saw's table and locks that thing in really well. (And you can bend/adjust the lever out to increase the tension if needed). Your commentary about loosing on-board pieces in the field is definitely spot on, and I wholehearty agree. In this case though I think this is a great feature for most users, and will likely hold fast even in very rough construction ecosystems, and can also be pulled off and put in your tool bag if it did prove to be a problem for an indiv on the job site. I was also impressed that the wrench is offset for knuckle clearance (thank the Gods!), and it has one size for the blade nut, and they used the same size nut for the oil plug. The other end is sized to service the heavy duty tension nuts on both angle adjustment quick-throw levers... AND they designed in a decent flathead which is sized for the motor's brush-plugs, and other flat head fasteners on the tool. That's some well thought out design work for real world field use right there. Keep up the fantastic content brother. You're setting standards my man.

[@hoilst]

Aw man. The Nice American Tradie and the Foul-Mouthed Canadian Engineer shout-out! I love the internet.

[@BlackSmith222]

I have been using a saw for 20 years now. It was a garage find. Pretty old model and it has saw on the right side. But it never disappoints. Unless I want to mess up the cutting. Cheers.

[@nocarebear8301]

Hahahah! Chrome don’t get you home! Been saying it for years!

[@carlcox7332]

My dad used to say Chrome won't build a home

[@normandong4479]

A circular saw is the indispensable tool for every carpenter, whether you are a pro or DIYer. The Skill worm drive has been the professional’s gold standard for decades. It has the strength, durability and torque to plow through every type of lumber you are likely to see on the job. Yes, there are more labels and marketing involved, but the most important qualities of this Skil worm drive saw is its strength and durability. I use a Hitachi 15 amp sidewinder saw and for a DIYer, it’s more than enough saw. Skil’s new worm drive is a safe and reliable bet for the professional. If I was a pro, there would no hesitation to get this Skil worm drive saw. Nice job, Skil. Nice video too.

[@GeeKayKayGee]

AvE is the Cockford Ollie

[@charlesmiller5078]

As you said....It all comes down to time and how it holds up. Some people take really good care of their tools, some just throw them around. I take care of my tools, not because I don't want to new ones. But I just get used to how a tool works in my hand and over time you get better job outcome. I bought a Black and Decker drill in 1978, used it for 30 years everyday installing communications equipment. Its hanging in my shop right now ready to go to work, it was bought in a pawn shop for 10 bucks. For its 35th birthday I put on a brand new chuck and a brand new cord,

[@mikeholt3545]

Most of the cost cuts are most likely inside i.e cheaper motor,bushings instead of bearings, sintered metal gears instead of machined so only time will tell

[@rightlanehog3151]

AVE (Rated R) took one apart and found exactly what you describe.

[@Urbicide]

The saw looks like it is made in China. With the possible exception of their flagship worm gear saws, Bosch has turned Skil Tools into their discount power tool line. Black & Decker bought out Porter-Cable Tools, & did the same to them. Those are now made in either China or Mexico.

[@ungratefulpeasant8085]

I love the mag77. I made my living using one for a number of years. My old man who started working construction at the age of 13 has made a living for 50 years using the Skil saw daily. The Skil saw is a hell of a tool.

[@TechNiVoltisgr3at]

You were supposed to use an old skilsaw to open the new one

[@mikesmith6476]

I am 10 minutes in and I have no interest in buying one of these saws or anything like it, but I still can't stop watching!!!!

[@TheSlywright]

Skookum choocher

[@mr.winters1733]

Badger Love those hot suppers

[@ph33lix]

Skookum as frig!

[@chopperhead2012]

Skookumest choocher!

[@jovosedlar]

whats a scookum please?

[@toadamine]

AvE said this one isn't skookum.. He said he was gonna start giving away Makita as wedding gifts instead due to the quality drop in these Skils.

[@coaltarp]

I came here to subscribe when he showcased the hammer you sent him. Must say he's gotta couple of more rough edges Scott your bringing an increase to my civility. Thanks

[@bubba2230]

Ive had the new one for a while im a framer wrench still intact and bench hasnt bent good tool

[@ZamTheWorld]

Austin Jantz Yeah my wrench is still there after a year and my saw is always being used and tossed back in my truck bed box. I’ve never dropped the wrench out of the slot.

[@asherdie]

Well you two are hobby carpenters, he clearly said a professional would loose the wrench.

[@bubba2230]

grumpybill do you feel good talking shit on the internet cause you know youve never had a hard day work in your life so this makes you feel better ? Go somewere else with that

[@bubba2230]

grumpybill ..... your still not cool bud

[@asherdie]

Austin Jantz because you're not smart enough to catch his comment, or because you're bitch enough to feel attacked by mine?

[@vincentmcclelland9179]

I got my Mag 77 after Harvey flooded my house, during demo, and the rebuilding, its proven its self many times over, for a right handed guy, its the best, beats any sidewinder I have ever used

[@nordgrinder6119]

New Sub (thanks to AVE). Great video! Looking forward to coming back and catching up!

[@MontrealLather]

Scott the blade wrench was on upside down. The sweep of the end goes skyward. I have this saw. The version right before they changed the logo. Still the skil mag 77 lt. It's freaking great, you should like it

[@jamesstanlake4064]

Like you I am skeptical when a favorite tool is new and improved version of a tool. I am a 3rd generation craftsman with 50 years experience. My go to tool would be the router, in particular the Porter-Cable router. Thos routers in all and any form from the small laminate trimmers up to the 3 1/2 hp one are my choice for power tools. In today's world of big fish eats smaller fish and the global economy and toss in a less than healthy dose of liability concerns. I do not know just who owns the Skil Saw brand now but the Porter-Cable brand is now owned by Black & Decker. The Porter-Cable tool line is now a mere shadow of itself with many tools discontinued and others changed for some unknown reason and the grand daddy of them all for a non reason for safety.I received a recall notice from Porter-Cable a couple years ago with a offer to replace the entire base for the 3 1/2 horse router; why you say? The base was and still is made from cast metal but some liability nazi decided it was a electrical shock hazard. Their fix was to take the base and use plastic took dip on each handle on the base. I was born at night but it certainly wasn't last night. Routers are made to be held in your hands; not since the late 60's if my old memory doesn't fail me have not all electrical power tools been double insulated to eliminate the risk of electrical shock. Part of my gets a chuckle from this but any time a company makes a non essential choice like this at considerable expense makes the tool vounerable to being discontinued right out of existence. Enough of my rant and keep up the valuable content you produce on the channel.

[@matthewshannon6946]

I love my pc routers but the Bosch 1604 was a BEAST.

[@Urbicide]

Porter-Cable went from "Proudly made in the USA" to being manufactured in either China or Mexico. It is sad.

[@jonanderson5137]

This is what I like to see, skill and experience passing on useful information.

[@ib4wp48]

i love this channel

[@Yazevo]

the shoutout for AvE is unbelievable, thumbs up!

[@RayLewisGM]

A shout out to uncle bumblefuck! Two great youtubers in one video!

[@chrislane5677]

I own many saws, but none that I consider a work horse that has never failed me. Absolutely the best saw ever made.