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[@GCPerformance18]

What do you think of the new Allez disc? it is for sure heavier but the bike is way more capable of doing multiple sports and have multiple use.

[@juanfersan]

meh! the rim brake one was unique; this is a very standard bike

[@jmounce50]

Nice bike at a more respectable price that the average person might be able to afford. This and the Trek Domane AL fit the right price points for the most part with pretty good specs.

[@williamgalbraith3830]

You should do one up see difference with few upgrades be good video 👌🏻

[@cccycling5835]

@@jmounce50I know from experience that the Trek Domane AL is heavier. It feels a lot heavier too, and not a full carbon fork.

[@cccycling5835]

I like it. Might buy the Sport version as I owned the Claris Allez and hydraulic brakes and 10 speed are exactly what I wanted on it.

[@iddra1868]

Other than the Specialized logo I have no idea why it costs $1200.

[@davidkaplan5517]

It comes with pedals!

[@GCPerformance18]

well the last model was 1000 back in 2020 and now this has disc brakes, you get ahuge name company backing there product with a lifetime warranty on the frame and also the research to make a nice geometry bike that rides smooth with out being limited to road or gravel

[@rjcayabyab8965]

@GC Performance spoken like a true salesman. I see you GC lol

[@michaelmechex]

they must have paid an absolute fortune to Sagan over the years, they gotta get that back somehow! 😂

[@iddra1868]

@@GCPerformance18 I don't think someone who's new to cycling cares about a frame that's "vertically compliant and laterally stiff".

[@Whatever1918rev]

Glad I got mine before they switched to disc. My experience of the kind of cheap cable-actuated disc brakes they include on bikes like this is that they add a lot of weight for limited additional stopping power, rub and need adjusting after nearly every ride, and generally are not an "upgrade" at all. The Allez had such a light frame for an entry-level bike, and that was one of its selling points. My 2021 model, which I added some fairly cheap Campy alloy wheels and a carbon seatpost to, weighs 8.8kg - 10.3kg seems like so much that even these upgrades would leave you at about 9.5

[@brandon_945]

I also got the previous model Allez and consider myself lucky. I would not want this model with disc brakes. Rim brakes was one of the key selling points. If I were to be in the market right now, I would look to a different company

[@bebopman5]

I caught that Doug DeMuro "THIS" at the beginning lol. New Allez looks pretty good for a standard entry-level disc road bike, on par with the Cdale Optimo and the Trek Domane AL. I'm a big fan of the official clearance being 35c; it gives you more tire options and let's you do more with the bike (maybe even throw some thicc 650b action on there).

[@GCPerformance18]

hahaha I was wondering if someone would get it, I dont know how I feel about 35mm, I mean like where is the limmit when is it gonnas be too big? like I think 30 is the biggest you really need

[@numeronolla1163]

@@GCPerformance18 I think the clearance is depends on the usage of the customer. Like myself living in Finland, I do enjoy smaller tires when going on normal road but because of the amount of gravel road in Finland every where, I have another gravel wheels with 35c tires on it so I can hit those routes as well :D

[@Matt28NJ]

@@GCPerformance18 We thought 21c tires at 115psi were all we'd need for racing bike tires in the recent past. Turns out we were wrong. Maybe 35MM clearance is the future.

[@JusGarc1981]

⁠​⁠@@GCPerformance18 while we’re on the topic of Doug DeMuro, what’s your dream car?

[@curtvaughan2836]

I did a double take when I saw the pedals with clips - haven't seen a new bike outfitted with those in decades. The complete bike weighs about the same as my first nice road bike, a 1989 Raleigh Team 753, which came with Reynolds 753 steel frame, DuraAce groupset, and Mavic clipless pedals. It ran about $2000 in 1990 dollars. That bicycle still rode very well after 25 years, when I gave it to my grandson for his birthday, as he liked the idea of a retro bike. He and the Raleigh were the same age. For $1200, this Specialized bike looks like a good deal.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I dont know why they even include the cages on there

[@thekenthouse6428]

@@GCPerformance18 Because hipsters like riding with toe clips, especially the ones coming off their fixies

[@janemf]

I have a 2022 Allez Sprint Comp that I upgraded to sram red, fancy wheels and tires, etc. It’s a phenomenal bike and I just want to ride her all day long. I think the Allez is possibly the best dollar value in the Specialized lineup.

[@dsonyay]

My caad 9 105 and Boyd Podiums (used set) is 16 pounds with pedals and bottle cages. I paid 400 for the bike a couple years ago and 400 for the boyd wheels a couple weeks ago. Carbon easton handlbars .. used. No way Id spend that much money for a 22 pound bike. That’s just unsat. Too many caads out there to warrant spending that much on an AL frame

[@GCPerformance18]

you could do this with any bike with an old allez and old rims, sometimes people want new and dont care about weight and like the idea o having a bike that is versatile to do some gravel riding and also riding with some friends

[@Rocky4719]

I’m so glad I grabbed an allez before they fell to the garbage disc brake trend. And no, I don’t mean that disc brakes are garbage. I mean low end disc brakes like on entry level bikes like this are garbage. Not much than rim brakes with decent pads in my experience. Also, I checked the geo chart and they slacked it out even more, made it more “relaxed”. My allez is comfortable enough to ride rough roads and dirt trails while still being playful and fun.

[@orlandogodoy3233]

What is going on with the bicycle industry. It's like they're actively turning people off cycling.

[@ariffau]

Nobody is forcing anybody to buy a Specialized. Look elsewhere

[@orlandogodoy3233]

@@ariffau ok Drone

[@savagepro9060]

@@ariffau look elsewhere for what, they’re all the same. Sheep!

[@ariffau]

@@savagepro9060 for whatever you want. There’s still something for everybody.

[@orlandogodoy3233]

@@ariffau yeah, used.

[@danc1829]

Better off with the older model imo. I paid £400 for a used 2021 model with rim brakes in 105 its 2kg lighter than this and i can fit 28mm tyres with ease.... The brakes with alloy rims are more than enough braking power for me in winter, in very wet typical british weather lol.

[@kevinlui3403]

The asymmetric rear seatstay linkage looks kind of weird and sloppy in exchange for giving a little more tire clearance in my opinion (if it even does since one side is lower anyway).

[@GCPerformance18]

it looks weird and sloppy because it is something we are not used to seeing, just like everything new

[@rolffuchs2737]

The first time for years I was riding my old rim brake bike. I was surprised how good it was breaking. I really forgot that disc breaks are no point on a road bike under dry conditions (and I would not ride this lovely De Rosa under other conditions). and it is far lighter than my Super Six with discs (but not faster).

[@stevegelman7838]

I have a 2021 specialized allez E5 road bike I'm not sure but I think I have around 3,000 miles on my bike it is Rock Solid dependable extremely fast and super fun to ride I would buy this bicycle again in a second I love this bike

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Excellent revised Specialized Allez and good value for money,upgrade the crankset to Hollowtech 2 and it would be gold.

[@GCPerformance18]

Thank you very much

[@jeffandersen6233]

I'll now keep more older steel frame Allez with full 105 (8speed), rim brakes and general easy maintenance. Limited to 28C ties but Conti gaters look plump. Limited stack height biggest issue as I age. I love my rim brakes.

[@josephdesales7791]

I remember how I love your review about Allez Cherry color that even I bought it. Now I'm thinking selling it and buy the new one.

[@GCPerformance18]

that was one of my faveorite bikee reviews I did, such a simple bike but so many people commented and had so much feedback on it

[@MarcraM82]

Damn that's heavy. Just buy a used 2015 Allez Comp 11 speed 105. Probably 2kg lighter and a lot cheaper! Will perform better. Great video GC!

[@GCPerformance18]

of course it is heavy it has 30c tires, cage pedals, and also disc brakes now, but it is new and versatile binke that can be 2 bikes in 1

[@MarcraM82]

@@GCPerformance18 i dunno GC... i reckon a lot better value used CAAD or Allez compared to this. Lighter too even with pedals and cages. If you want versatility for gravel riding sure thing i agree with you. But as a pure road bike i can't see the value here.

[@EdNelson]

They could have added a lot of value by using cable actuated hydro brakes. But mostly meh. They're basically giving dealers something they can work anyone into that walks in not knowing 1) anything about cycling and 2) what kind of riding they might do. That's a good thing, reducing your inventory on the floor so you can sell more SL8s 😂

[@robbchastain3036]

I had to crank up the volume on that buzz test, rock on, silence, right on! Specialized got it right on so many levels with this bike and thanks, GC, for showing it to us. And while I'm no fan of discs in the pro road environment, hate to see all the pile-ups with no time to react to someone else's binders, it looks like discs are ready for their close-up on affordable consumer models such as this. And that price is a steely deal and I like the increased tire clearance because I like making a bike all sorts of things, like when I was a kid on my Sting-Ray. One day it'd be Evel's Harley, the next I'd be wheeling down Baja like Parnelli in his Bronco. And now we need to see someone win a gravel class on that bike, stick on big rubber and burn, baby, burn like a disco inferno. O man, there I go again, reliving my glory days in the Seventies. 😀

[@devdroid9606]

They should race this bike in the Giro next year. 5000m of climbing over 190km.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahaha I am sure u wouldnt see that much of a difference

[@jayel27]

Anyone else see that lizard sprint into the building at 3:04? Clean bike. Considering it for my next bike. Great starter.

[@jl3567]

My 2005 Allez got me into cycling, my wife, my daughter and my neighbor. I will never sell it.

[@iamtorax]

I like it! I have a 2006 Allez (with a modern build) and had a 2019 Allez with R7000. The 2019 was AWFUL because of a head tube the size of the Empire State Building making it handle like a hog. This 2023 still has a tall head tube relative to a Tarmac or Aethos, but it's 20mm shorter than the 2019's. I like the idea of getting one of these, changing the groupset, and putting some decent wheels on it with 35c Gravelking SS tires. That'll get you over just about any sort of terrain you could throw at it. Continue by swapping out the heavy seatpost, saddle, and bars for something lighter, and you probably have an 18lb do it all bike. Money well spent? Probably not. But a fun bike? I'd think so!

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I think they are trying to hit the every type of customer, I am getting more and more customers coming into the store looking for a bike to ride with friends and also be able to do gravel or road and before this, you had to either choose one

[@iamtorax]

@@GCPerformance18 I think Specialized will hit it out of the park with this one.

[@tomwalsh6774]

Lol at the lizard creeping under the door at 3:07

[@georgebg_]

got me in the end 💨😂

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahahhaa

[@carl90210]

Any issues with me replacing out the mechanical disc brakes for hydraulic on this one bro?

[@HarryJ10]

When this was announced, I ran to my local bike shop and put a deposit on the last remaining all black Allez with rim brakes, as my Cycle to Work scheme has to be for a bike under £1000. This bike starts at around £1200, so I wouldn’t be able to get into my first road bike with it. Can someone please give me reassurance that I’ve done the right thing? I read some great reviews of the rim brake allez so I went for it before stock runs out!

[@marcgtsr]

ofcourse you did

[@Rocky4719]

I’ve got a rim brake allez, it’s amazing, whether you’re getting into racing or just want a commuter (like me). Fast and fun, you made a good choice!

[@ShowMeThePony]

Just picked up an sworks Tarmac SL3 Dura-ace bike with Mavic Ksyrium wheels for less than this and I promise it is a better bike than anything Specialized sells today at any price. 🤌🏻

[@cccycling5835]

Canyon is offering their direct to consumer Aluminum Tiagra for $1500. Trek and Giants offerings don’t have full carbon forks. I think $1800 is perfectly reasonable these days. 10 years ago this bike would have been $1400, sure. But this bike is more capable than that one, with a groupset that has benefited every way from trickledown tech from higher end groupsets. I WAS going to buy a Tiagra Tarmac for $2.1-2.5k but tbh I might just buy one of these since i already have a carbon gravel bike and TBH i can’t tell the difference sometimes.

[@psnSupergrobi10]

I feel sorry for everyone who is clueless enough to buy this bike instead of an older version with rim brakes.

[@eddyaveti3047]

If you're broke just say that instead

[@psnSupergrobi10]

@@eddyaveti3047 I'm not broke, not even after getting a Sworks Tarmac SL6, Pinarello Dogma F and Canyon Speedmax CFR lmao

[@GTGrabber]

I have the 20113 Allez Elite. I really like it. I would go Allez disc if I could also get it with internal cable routing and 105 Di2. Unfortunately nobody offers a AL bike with disc and Di2. Id keep my current if I could just upgrade it.

[@GCPerformance18]

the 2013 is an amazing bike thugh, for sure tried and true

[@cccycling5835]

I’m thinking about buying the sport model. As my curiosity of carbon frames is already settled with my Canyon Grizl CF. I think they’re going to sell a lot of these. My only gripe is that they’re made in Vietnam now, instead of Taiwan, and I’m not 100% the quality is the same. I like Vietnamese made goods though, so we will see.

[@vv5179]

The geometry is the same as the older diverge, and that bike did not like climbing steep hills. Sweet looking bike though!

[@marcinstyle85]

1200£ on this price point should be 105 mechanical on it ,then swap to better wheels and will be good machine , I had one 2012 model custom built with ultegra and nice zipp60 wheels was fast bike ...

[@chrisscott8362]

I love the Allez. Get it with 10sp Tiagra and a set of DT R470 wheels and you can hang any race/ride you want. Has a great ride and with 30c tires - you won't even know its not carbon. A 2 yr old used Rim Brake version is an absolute STEAL.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea th eallez is very underated bike it only is considered cheap just because of the price point but it is so much bike for the money and does not hold anyone back from riding fast rides

[@ivandjordevic696]

Nice frameset. I would go here with a roval alpinist slx wheelset, 2x11 mech ultegra, carbon seatpost, stem and handlebar for a little bit of flex

[@kellrockets101]

Just bought one for my wife and instantly pulled everything off of it. Added Sram axs rival, put a different, lighter wheelset I had on hand...and put a couple lighter nicer components I had in my parts bin. Took off those pedals which are crazy heavy. Came out really nicely and dropped some pounds off it

[@knalpotbocor168]

Which one is better for first road bike, specialized allez or Trek Domane AL?

[@GCPerformance18]

specialized allez I like way better

[@tieskuijpers936]

In my opinion mechanical disc brakes are the shittest type of brake that you can have. It combines the worst of rim brake and disc brake and puts it into one. I don't understand why bike companies have started fitting them to bicycles, I think rim brakes are better than mechanical disc brakes. The only reason why they are fitted is because now the bike can get sold as a 'disc brake' bike. If you want to get disc brakes it is 100% worth it to spend the extra money and go for hydraulic disc brakes.

[@TerjeRiisnaes]

I do like the way you talk!

[@GCPerformance18]

I do like you

[@lukewalker1051]

For the money, its the best roadbike Specialized makes. I have pretty much the identical frame albeit previous rim brake model that will fit a max tire size of 28mm. For those that wonder, this bike with the same groupset and wheels is as fast as the 2012 Roubaix SL3 that Cancellara won the Paris Roubaix on back in 2011 as a prototype and why I bought the frameset back then for just under $2K and having owned several roadbikes of all materials including latest Cervelos etc, the SL3 Roubaix which is rim brakes and without boat anchor future shock is still my favorite bike and of course it could take Cancellara's big power over the most grueling cobble conditions. A kicker is, I mounted a 2000w Bafang BBSHD mid drive motor to my Specialized Allez Elite...essentially the bike shown with rim brakes and I can drop 'anybody' on that bike including nationally ranked riders...I come from a competitive cycling background...and in fact rode it today. I could easily in fact tune it for 3-4000 watts but 2000w and my power it will hit 40 mph all out which is fast enough. This frame can take big motor power and rides like a Cadillac and tracks dead straight at speed. Its a magic carpet ride with big, quiet motor with 52v battery. So a ringing endorsement from me...benefit of the disc brakes is you can fit even wider tires which is a plus if you ride rough roads. I basically stripped the frame which is gold and built the bike with the parts and wheels I prefer. Cheers GC. PS. I am not happy with the direction of the bike industry but this bike is a breath of fresh air and rides as good as a carbon frame...amazing ride quality and not a hint of harshness like the Emonda ALR which rides harsher. For those 1500w Crit racers, this bike is not to be confused with the Allez Sprint which is stiffer, more slammed with more upright seatpost angle to be ridden more 10/10's on the rivet. The Elite is an endurance geometry bike compared to the Allez Sprint designed for crit racing.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I agree with that, the allez is a staple in the specialized road bike category and something that can be used for fun entry into the sport or for those heavy fast racers who want to do the sport but dont want to break th ebank you egt a lot of the specialzied r and d with not the big price tag

[@michaelmechex]

I think a bike like this would be the ideal commuter bike, even for the wide public, not only bike enthusiasts. For that it needs to be like half the price though. I think these should replace those cheap mountain bikes that aren't even meant to leave the tarmac, they are so stupid and unnecessary. It still baffles me the cheapest bikes have suspension, all it does is creak since it's brand new and falls apart in short order.

[@fabianbravoa]

“It’s an Allez Michael, what could it cost? 1200 dollars?”

[@GCPerformance18]

hahaha

[@crack0n]

I have a allez peter sagan edition with tiagra group. 999€ back in 2018 or so 😅. Still awesome bike

[@mikekelly1771]

I just bought the 2022 sram rival 22 version discounted to half the price. Literally 10 minutes ago. Heaps better value.

[@DjDeepfry1]

I don’t know about the lightest alloy frame on the market. The Trek Emonda ALR disc weighs 1257 grams and my 2019 Emonda ALR weighs 1131 grams.

[@GCPerformance18]

thats what specialized is claiming

[@GiancarlosGuevara-k2j]

Muy buena bicicleta. Con los neumáticos Continental 5000. Es un cohete. Claro que eso supone cambiar a frenos hidráulicos.Saludos desde Perú.

[@darthvulcanis4002]

I have a rim brake Allez Sport (training). Allez Sprint for racing. BUT I would still get this as a second training bike. Nice upgrades to geometry

[@GCPerformance18]

yea it is super nice training bike, the allez line is a top tier bike with some many usses

[@babyrabies]

I'm just here paying homage to the death of a legend.

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahaha

[@deltagchemistry12]

That weird angle weld on the rear triangle looks dumb from an aesthetic view. Gotta like the look to buy it

[@christopherdonaldson8707]

What's the deal with the squint bridge between the seatstays?

[@GCPerformance18]

allows for wider tire clearence

[@Tecknee]

I heard the weird weld at the seat stays is purely for aesthetics. "It's a talking point on the shop floor."

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao no i think they had to raise it for the clearance of a 35 mm tire

[@memphisreines]

Which one is a higher-tier model? Allez or Sirius X?

[@GCPerformance18]

allez is higher model

[@memphisreines]

@@GCPerformance18 ok, thanks

[@celestialemissary4934]

Man... i bought Canyon Endurace 7 with full 105 for 1350euro Upgraded some parts and now it's at 7.4kg

[@oOoACFREEMANoOo]

Can you make it a home mechanic rim brake bike?

[@venom5809]

That back part by the back tire is an “A” for Allez. lol

[@GCPerformance18]

no stop lying

[@venom5809]

@@GCPerformance18 It is, watch other videos on it. LOL. That's how I know.

[@naxxer1572]

I like the way you talk

[@GCPerformance18]

really?!?! thats a win for me this week!!

[@ditto1958]

This looks like a nice bike.

[@nachohernandez9491]

I have an allez 2016 and love it

[@GCPerformance18]

allez will always be a household name bike they are phenomenal

[@al-du6lb]

if you can lock up your wheel with rim brakes, what is the point of disc brakes?

[@iddra1868]

You can lock up a car wheel with drum brakes but why are they all switching to discs? Heat dissipation.

[@GCPerformance18]

stops at the center of the wheel instead of a longer time going around the outside of the rim, better performance and better control braking, if the rider just squeezes brake full hard every time that is lack of rider skill on the bike..... and in emergeny like car pulling out in front of someone everyone squeezes brakes and locks up no matter rim or disc, your going over or skidding out

[@Mclovinthedank]

This bike is cool. But there is no reason to not have more space for tires...

[@devdroid9606]

Should increase the price to $1599, so that it matches the seat stay bridge.

[@GCPerformance18]

haha they have a model for 1800

[@tezzanewton]

If it doesn’t have hydraulic disks, I’m not buying.

[@arianewell6252]

Quick. Let me quiz you for retention. At the end of the video did GC. A.) Gag from the free hub body sound check. B.) Fart for emphasis. C.) Both…

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

First glance it doesn't look like an Allez. It used to look like a Tarmac, now it looks like an aethos. In my opinion.

[@GCPerformance18]

reminds me more of the tarmac sl6 to be honest

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

@@GCPerformance18 well you've seen it in person and i haven't.

[@savagepro9060]

No more rim brakes? Fock Specialized!

[@janemf]

Jesus Sandra just buy a used bike and clean it up.

[@pagey007]

Nice frame , Love spesh but over 10kg its a chunky monkey and 8 speed in 2023 , Might be a good gravel bike I guess..

[@tombola4046]

3k for the new Allez Sprint with 105 mechanical and crap wheels!! WTF 😂😂😂 Why anybody would choose that over a decent used bike in this day and age!

[@ralphmartinez8616]

Someone get durian on the phone stat!

[@GCPerformance18]

theres also a ton of used cars from 2006 that u can get for good deals... I dont know why people act suprised, sometimes people want new stuff

[@NewEnglandDirtRoadie]

can i at least get one with fully external cable routing? maybe i'll take up cigarettes

[@GCPerformance18]

hahahah nothing is extenral anymore

[@FrayBera]

10 kg... ???? Fuji SL Aluminium with 105 Rim brakes 8.5 kg, similar prices, just for a example.... why would i buy a specialized ???

[@supocarta74]

Jesus it's a heavy weight 😮

[@jok658]

What is going on with that seatstay bridge??? Very odd. Nice bike otherwise 🎉

[@savagepro9060]

Specialized: “we’re no longer providing rim br-“ Me: 😡🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao other companies will have rim brakes

[@savagepro9060]

@@GCPerformance18 🤞 fingers crossed

[@LOZUPONEJ]

The prices are ridiculous

[@LOZUPONEJ]

Tiagara build should be 1200 bucks

[@deltagchemistry12]

Wow also so dumb getting rid of rim brakes but keeping cable disc brakes? What were they thinking

[@BombayBoywhoPedals]

Hiyunh!!😅

[@obi-juan3295]

At least they got rid of those ugly welds they had on the last model

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao well thats the allez sprint

[@phil9005]

$1200 for Claris is WILD

[@GCPerformance18]

yea that is the new world right now

[@basedgodstrugglin]

1200 for Claris? Bruh

[@GCPerformance18]

yea but i mean it was claris for 1000 on rim brake bikes since 2020 and noboy had an issue with that

[@basedgodstrugglin]

@@GCPerformance18 Fair enough, I wasn’t looking at the Allez lineup but I paid 600 for my brand new Giant Contend with Claris in 2017. 1000 for Clairs sounds bonkers but I’m looking at the current model year for my bike and it’s up to 900. Prices are just going up and up.

[@basedgodstrugglin]

@@GCPerformance18 you’ve got a spammer^^

[@MdBoj-c7f]

👍💯

[@F4DZ4]

Looks awfull :/ It's sad there is no more place for rim brakes in road bike industry

[@wareverwarever9200]

Its useless to upgrade this. You will never be able to get this to 8kg or under without spending a fortune, maybe 2x the value of this bike. Besides, 8speed? In 2023? Come on !! And disk brakes on an aluminium bike? Wow more dead weight. People may say what they want but weight does make a difference. No thanks. Give me a second hand rim brake allez 2010-2020 any day of the week.

[@8rk]

1200 and still overpriced for the components on it.

[@ozgurinsan]

now that's a mid tier bike ?

[@mike.camille]

9:29

[@GCPerformance18]

;)

[@LangChengCycling]

10kg? lol

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Cool beans. Yes... lets move on already! No more rim brakes, simplify product SKUs. Disc brakes are the way to go.

[@davidsantos5516]

There is lighter al. Bikes on the market

[@Djalmatec91]

I don't like the way you talk.

[@GCPerformance18]

Dammit you

[@maniastrat]

What a porker😅 I mean really Specialized? Sorry they have lost the plot completely 🙄 1375 gram frame light? Even Fuji SL-A is under 1100 grams

[@chm2]

Those pedals and cages come with the bike?? What's Specialized's strategy here? Get their riders to crash and wreck their bikes so they buy a second bike?

[@GCPerformance18]

yes they do, i do not know why but who knows lol

[@Tazangamoz]

What the fudge! Horrible. 🤷‍♂

[@ariffau]

The Scott Speedster is a better deal than this.

[@GCPerformance18]

I dont know, not the base model one, the speedster on there has a litterl tourney groupset, that is something that comes on beach cruiser bikes

[@ariffau]

@@GCPerformance18 the Speedster 30. 105 hydro disc grouppo, 11 speed, hidden cables. Bam!

[@hcw199]

Specialized is over-rated trash!

[@GCPerformance18]

they ahve one of the nicest entry level bikes

[@tackac7815]

No bueno....

[@The2808erik]

Mechanical Disc brakes are much worse than rim brakes.

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I am not a fan of mechanical disc I feel like they are a waste this should have at least came with hydraulic to be honest

[@H0L0D0M0R_SURVIVOR_XIV]

🤮

[@notpablo8369]

Can you compare CAAD Optimo to the new Specialized Allez? 🫰

[@Rocky4719]

I’m so glad I grabbed an allez before they fell to the garbage disc brake trend. And no, I don’t mean that disc brakes are garbage. I mean low end disc brakes like on entry level bikes like this are garbage. Not much than rim brakes with decent pads in my experience. Also, I checked the geo chart and they slacked it out even more, made it more “relaxed”. My allez is comfortable enough to ride rough roads and dirt trails while still being playful and fun.