NEW STEALTH UNIT! First Look at the PHANTOM RAY

NEW STEALTH UNIT! First Look at the PHANTOM RAY - Mechabellum Update

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@CobStrategy Ай бұрын

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@Jugbot Ай бұрын

I think range may have way less of an impact on this unit. Sometimes you may even want smaller range to maneuver around enemies and strike the tower, for example.

@HolgFromHell Ай бұрын

yes, range and cloaking are opposed techs; with long range the Ray leaves cloaking mode earlier, which is normally not desired

@znail4675 Ай бұрын

@@HolgFromHell Burst mode on the other hand works very well with Cloak.

@SIMULACRA37 Ай бұрын

He also said long range units like marksmen should counter these, like wraiths. However, with the cloaking tech that extra range isn't going to help, and they could easily get within striking range of the marksmen "undetected"

@scottjcraig2 Ай бұрын

I wonder how explosive ammo mixes with anti missile on the mustangs... will the flak take out missiles too?

@arcon980 Ай бұрын

yeah, forget increased ranged give me launcher overload!

@BrownsheepBF Ай бұрын

I feel like these, tunnelling crawlers and sandworms would be an extremely fun comp. I don't think it'd actually work, but it'd be fun.

@HolgFromHell Ай бұрын

funny, Rays seem to be an answer to the "OP" Melting Points; just sneak to them with cloaking and then fire a full barrage of missiles - boom

@kalashydra9016 Ай бұрын

it was lvl 5 rays vs propably lvl 1 melt . no suprise there it was killed instantly

@wilder6408 Ай бұрын

Unless the rays waste all that missiles on some chaff.

@kalashydra9016 Ай бұрын

@@wilder6408 thats why i think the splash dmg upgrade is underated . even with the dmg down they still might be really good vs big targets + they target air too so wasp counter as well lol

@simulation1158 Ай бұрын

I feel like HE and barrage mode would whipe most if not all chaff units in a single burst.

@gallagher2259 Ай бұрын

Thats what I thought when cob started ragging HE. Dont get me wrong I really dont like it on anything but stangs either but holy crap burst mode plus He would literally wipe chaff off a field and still deal great damage to medium units.

@Gaze73 Ай бұрын

Why would you invest into 2 techs on fragile air units just to clear chaff. That would be like getting HE and Overload on phoenixes. I only use HE on tarantulas, so cheap and destroys chaff.

@Juria1987 Ай бұрын

Got ideas of like using cloaking, the burst fire, with armor and shield to make a tanky high burst damage unit that gets around the threat of being blown out of the sky by high ranged units like Marksmen and such. The armor and shield just there to make survive popping out of stealth better, though they'd clearly need proper chaff clear to support them or they'd get stuck for ages on the buggers.

@wikimody5013 Ай бұрын

Switch armour for high explosive and no chaff can stand against you

@SammywiseG Ай бұрын

These look like fun! I can already see several unit combos (oil and fire units) and strategies involving them.

@walksinthedarkness Ай бұрын

Hope you feel better soon, Cob! (I need more quotes for The Book of Cob!)

@Cpt.Midnight88 Ай бұрын

great video glad i found the channel! new sub!

@KarucielDemonio Ай бұрын

I love how this unit looks, im excited for what strategies will arise with this. Also hope you feel better soon! I knew from ur last video u were probably on a sick break.

@DCAMM720 Ай бұрын

I think these will be a solution to winning range vs. range wars, such as EM marks+storms vs something that's close to a mirror. With the target lock breaking with cloak and being able to get in and nuke things down, these will be amazing.

@kalashydra9016 Ай бұрын

6:37 thats because your placement is pretty poor . if you had the mustangs closer to the fangs they would be much more effective 12:32 i think the range upgrage is pretty worthless if you are using the stealth cloak . you dont need range . making it tanky and propably also giving it more splash damage range would be propably better because it seems like it wastes a lot of time with small units . meanwhile the stealth cloak makes enemy range irelavant

@gallagher2259 Ай бұрын

I dont trust anyones advice with spelling like this

@jasonrouse8215 Ай бұрын

I'd probs try them with Burst mode, cloak, HE and shields, along with acid crawlers galore, maybe acid scorp as backup too. Alternatively, drop HE for oilbombs and run with tanky firebadgers? Should be able to just outright murder anything on the ground, and dip as long as they aren't one shot. You could also hide them alongside wasp columns, they would have a bit less range, but would also recloak to engage, dropping aggro back and forth? I assume most people will just go with a hit squad of around 3-4 packs, and mobile beacon them over targets... Make them tanky af, and you got a little assassin squadron... *Degen wraiths would love these, I don't think anything on the ground save for Farseer/ Typhoons would stand a chance... or am I overestimating their capabilities?

@Zaki_Arx Ай бұрын

Sandworm that can fly with paper Health? 🤣 but the barrage is cool tho, and too bad it can't use rotor wings otherwise it became banshee 🤣

@Zaki_Arx Ай бұрын

and get countered by emp anti air archlight?

@gamingfailx3310 Ай бұрын

I really like doing ball wasp rush builds and when wraiths were added I tried adding them as support but it didnt work very well. But these phantoms seem like they will be awesome to add with high explosive, so the wasps can DROP their HE tech and can add a more damaging tech to them. I am a specific type of player but these guys seem very useful for me

@michaelmecham4187 Ай бұрын

nice. good video. i havent played since this unit got added i need to jump back in

@wanamingo Ай бұрын

If you pick oil it could benefit a lot from that equipment that allows free repositioning that nobody takes. Move it around as needed, make lots of oil puddles that disjoint left and right flanks, giving you more time to gang up on one side.

@Santisima_Trinidad Ай бұрын

Definitely a very cool unit. Use cases: it's short range and high damage, so it Definitely seems quite good at agro. Will also probably be a good anti agro tool, as it has sticky oil bomb to slow units, but no fire to ignite it unlike the vulcan, which can be useful. Burst mode seems very niche, but could probably work very well versus balls of medium health units (think sledges, steel balls, mass marksmen in FFA) when paired with cloak, and maybe even high explosive ammo. Run in whilst cloaked, dump there missiles onto the opponent, high explosive means they hit and kill most if not all of them, then they recloak and any remaining enemy forces can't hit them whilst they reload. Still, extremely cool unit, i look forward to seeing how it's used.

@Syfa Ай бұрын

Range and Stealth have anti-synergy. Stealth and Armor makes them brutal brawlers that can dodge a lot of anti-air units. Volley is the dedicated giantkiller. High explosive is general anti-chaff that can be good on flanks. Oil bomb is good if they're in the backlines and you have fire. Stealth, Armor and a Nano-repair kit makes them obnoxiously hard to deal with if you have decent chaff. These things are pretty likely to pick up levels so they can be quite hard to deal with.

@thewyliecoyote3918 Ай бұрын

Dam at first glance i thought these were gonna be air transport ships, that would be a cool addition to the game

@AverageMayhem Ай бұрын

I’m thinking that EMP marksmen or EMP Farseer will be helpful to knock these guys down when they have the cloak selected

@jocylinfrancis930 Ай бұрын

Hope you feel better soon! Don’t rush things, the memes will still be here when you’re doing better Edit: this definitely seems inspired by banshees from StarCraft, which isn’t a bad thing

@arcon980 Ай бұрын

The tech i want on these guys is launcher overload, get rid of the increased range and give it overload so that you can use these as wasp meat shields more easily. I also think new unique techs to go with a tanky low range flier like this should be Anti-fire ground and / or Anti-acid ground skill.

@walksinthedarkness Ай бұрын

Silly question - does the oil from the phantom rays sticky oil bombs hang around for more than one round like the battle spell?

@jhs3506 Ай бұрын

3:41 , 5:14 The Phantom Ray's projectile speed is fast, so it cannot completely intercept the missile.(1~2missile left) 7:64 Burst mode 9:00 Beacon

@Yull-Rete Ай бұрын

I think it would have been cool it they had Field Maintenance instead of Armor Enhancement. It would let you cloak in, assassinate a target, and then heal back up as you cloak over to your next target.

@Lord-Sendo Ай бұрын

I wonder if Farseers will get a tech to detect stealth units.

@ZoëGrant-m7b Ай бұрын

i feel like you could meme them into a stealthy "melee" unit like an assassin. range seems way less good on these than other units

@einstein9891 Ай бұрын

Sound like a evil option for ffa, since all the long range late game shit cant target them, similar to sandworm but with way higher chaff clear potential

@TwinkleTutsies Ай бұрын

Omg these are like fast air sleggies with a less HP but more damage.. these are gonna be busted

@wt9964 Ай бұрын

Since everybody is running marksmen with emp nowadays it wont matter much

@robertwillson2252 Ай бұрын

if you intend to use the stealth than the range is useless. the oil bomb seems counter productive but since i don't know how it reacts to fortress barriers, we will see. this unit might actually be able to pull off High explosive to counter large chaff clears and strong arm counter fangs. i begrudgingly have to say cool unit and at least it is air and ground so i will not run from air units and waste round time like sand worms.

@Lunaspecter69420 Ай бұрын

cloaked phantoms will be great for flanking

@petesmith3080 Ай бұрын

The quest. is when it released?

@darthsasquach-f9w Ай бұрын

FFA is going to be nuts with these

@keggotht9323 Ай бұрын

Looks similar to a 40k valkirie

@Zaamos Ай бұрын

How to get access to the beta of new units? Im content creator (new one) would like to review units for my Polish viewers, there is almost no Polish mechabellum, so im getting it popular here, thanks for advice

@The_Endo Ай бұрын

god I hate these new mechs that break targeting, it's so broken. Worms were first...now we have another one that is even worse.

@shortwave737 Ай бұрын

OH.. MY... GOD... this may mark the end of mass marksman comp in FFA. Ranged so chaff protects it still unlike sandworm plus multiple units per pack and the stealth. Edit: it also has shields?! Oh my god I am running stealth, range, shield for these things in FFA for sure. Finally something that might stop the cringe marksman spammers

@hunter-eo4qz Ай бұрын

Mark spam can be annoying as hell but a great answer to them are range storms, some stangs, and forts making shielded fangs. It can be rough getting used to knowing how much of each to use during fights though. The things I see now that are most annoying in high mmr for FFA is mass war factories if the person is able to build them up and also mass worms. Worms being untargetable underground is just obnoxious lol.

@shortwave737 Ай бұрын

@hunter-eo4qz Yup, 90% of high Elo games in FFA have one Marksman player, one sandworm player, and one mass wasp or mass factory player. It's so dullllll

@Kratatch Ай бұрын

Medivacs got an upgrade i see.

@Abdoulaye1995 Ай бұрын

This is Phantom Ray and her two moms, Medivac and Banshee...

@miza6 Ай бұрын

Ready for dust off

@arhonvalran1551 Ай бұрын

The question is: Is it cloaked when teleported on back lines?

@Squeaky4all Ай бұрын

hmmm looks like a starcraft banshee lol

@montyalb8788 Ай бұрын

Are marksmen good against these? Cloak and shield might make them somewhat resilient against marksmen because of the target drop.

@Sten43211 Ай бұрын

With emp? yes, without? kinda

@montyalb8788 Ай бұрын

@Sten43211 fair enough, emp prevents cloak but does not help against shield. It would force the marksmen into an auxiliary role. There is a line where you go Wraith to get aa out on Marksmen then you add shield to the Rays to make them relevant and range on the Wraith so the Rays tank. Then cloak to bait out EMP. If EMP comes out the rest of the Marksmen upgrades are now very expensive and don't further help with clearing the Rays.