New Sub 70 699 v2 vs original 699

[@vernhaynes1544]

I have never seen a video that had Sub70 comparisons done. Enjoyed it very much. Keep up the good work.

[@jacksoni349]

Yes! Glad to see you were the first to compare the new 699 vs the previous model.

[@scottdean27]

I believe the standard acceptance regarding length in irons is about 3-4 yards of extra distance for every 1/2” in length and about 1.5 to 2 yards for every degree of stronger loft. So, if he was getting about 5 yards or so of extra carry out of the same length club, and the stronger loft should give him about 2 yards more carry, and he was getting a little more carry than that, then the new version might be ever so slightly hotter on the face and result in perhaps a couple or a few more yards, on a 6 iron. The difference would probably be even less on a 7,8,9iron, etc. But even if there is just a small gain, that’s still not a bad thing.

[@FrancisEllenbecker]

Yes I enjoyed the comparison of the 699, 699v2 & 699v2 Pro. I am a custom club builder and fitter for sub 70. I deftly enjoyed your video keep up the good work

[@RockBottom7777]

Just hit the 699V2 Pros last week and loved them. I've been playing Cleveland HiBore for 10 years and thought it would be hard and they were easy to hit and felt great.

[@rdadams7507]

Thanks for the review. You confirmed that the original 699 is the one for me. I had a fitting last week and I’m eagerly awaiting my new clubs.

[@Garlicator]

Very excited to see this, as I am about to go for a fitting with Sub70 in mid-March. I love the look of the original 699 clubs, and nothing I've seen here has altered my preference. Especially as I need a little help with launch, so the old-school 31degree 7 iron would be better for me than the newer 30 degree 7 iron. Great review, and lovely to see the focus on feel and looks as well as the numbers from the GC machine. Thanks!

[@TrumpsEarBandage]

How did the fitting go?

[@Garlicator]

​@@TrumpsEarBandageso this was over a year ago, in Spring 2023. The fitting itself was fantastic. Essentially a 2.5hr lesson. I ended up getting fitted into the 699ProV2 irons and the JB wedges. I went to Sub-70 in Hereford, England - which is a couple of hours from where I live. A year on, I can safely say that these are the best feeling and best looking clubs I've ever owned. I'm a convert, and now also a preacher! They are really forgiving, and also give lots of feedback through "feel", so you know when you've nailed one from the sweet spot and when / how you've struck one off centre. Several friends of mine have since gone for a Sub70 fitting and made a purchase too. I cannot recommend the product and the service highly enough.

[@TrumpsEarBandage]

@@Garlicator hell yea man, really think I’m gonna pull the trigger on the 699 v2 single lengths

[@biggregg5]

Thanks for the link, AJ. I've been the hobbiest clubmaker for about 20 years.....mostly to be able to afford my sick obsession with trying what I felt were unique or innovative club head designs. Back when I was less of a golf snob, the only thing I cared about was whether the design helped me hit the ball better, and the component company, Hireko, in some ways was ahead of it's time with coming up with such designs. They seem to have gotten away from forgings and stick with castings, but especially a few years back, you could build a set for a fraction of even today's popular DTC brands. Anyway, I digress. The end result is a golf room with clubs everywhere, and in hindsight, l feel that I should have invested in the best shafts and grips for me AND put these fittings on them, and then when I get that inevitable wild hair up my ass and feel I have to try new heads, then I only buy the heads, then put fittings like these on those, thus saving myself from duplicating unnecessary costs by foregoing having to buy new grips, shafts and ferrules each time. In addition, when I do a set for friends and family, I could have the luxury of having a few extra shafts with fittings around to have a mini-setup like you. For me, it was never intended to be more than a hobby, so having a wall full of shafts would be pretty stupid. As many clubs lying around as I have despite being only the hobbiest, I bet you as a professional have way more. I am curious if you think these fittings would still work as everyday clubs, or do you think they only really work for fitting purposes? I can see why the bulky nut would be a bit off-putting, especially compared to the sexy ferrules you use, but if that is the only real issue, I could get over that if I could forego the cost of a shaft and grip every time I just couldn't help myself to try something new.

[@EFG2]

I have really liked them. Had a few initial fail issues where I was trying to use minimal amounts of epoxy, but I have tweaked my technique especially with the shaft connecter part that seems to be holding well. Most important thing for me besides the ease of use is that the club weight isn't compromised with these adapters. Worst part is just having to drill out the hosels, which is still time consuming.

[@biggregg5]

@@EFG2 Do you think they can be used on your everyday playing clubs?

[@EFG2]

@@biggregg5 Don't see why not. I've hit a lot of balls consecutively with an adapter club without any issues.

[@pedroc6823]

Can you please do a Sub 70 699 V2 single length iron settest. Just ordered them .

[@Hunter-zp5hd]

I just ordered Sub 70 699 Pro originals. I just like how they looked better than the v2. I had previously ordered the Takomo 101t but after waiting a long time I finally just cancelled the order. They do refund me right away, which slowed me to try and order these. Would’ve been nice if you had the 699 Pro original to match up. Maybe I’ll add in a review after I get them.

[@nelsonjames1272]

It just goes to show you that when you hit a compact blade solid, the physics give you everything any other club can but with a magical feel and control.

[@biggregg5]

What is the brand of adapter you use for fitting purposes? Do you like them?

[@EFG2]

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[@dustinjohnson267]

What are your thoughts on the dynamic gold x100 xstiff shaft compared to project x 6.5. Been hitting the 6.5 for 10 years but the free option for dynamic gold x100 is nice on the sub 70 website

[@EFG2]

I always prefer DG personally. It is the number 1 shaft on tour so obviously many great golfers with different swings find it the right match.

[@dustinjohnson267]

Did you notice much difference. In distance and forgiveness between the V1 and V2. I’m a stronger player. Don’t have a issue with swing as a can carry my 9 iron 155-160 on a good. Coming from mizuno jpx 825s. The V1 699 had .5 stronger loft. Did I make the right choice felt the v2 stronger lofts would of been too much for me

[@dustinjohnson267]

Handicap between 6-8

[@EFG2]

@@dustinjohnson267 I recall seeing about 5 yards more from the stronger lofted v2.

[@dustinjohnson267]

@@EFG2 ok good deal! Definitely made the right choice. Those would of been crazy long for me. Would of been carrying the gap wedge 160 😂

[@brianpettet3436]

Sub 70 is really getting noticed. Their website lists you as a "cart fitting location". Could you do a video on the process for their products & options with an actual customer?

[@biggregg5]

From my end, they all sound good. How about the sound live?

[@paulmcgee1867]

I think I prefer the old head shape myself

[@543whitey]

I have the orig 699s, doesn't seem worth upgrading. thanks!

[@jeffpaul606]

I’m torn between the original pros vs the pro v2. The former is made from a different metal. Would that be an issue that would prevent one from buying the original pros?

[@EFG2]

I thought the original was solid. If you like the look and lofts, I say go with them.

[@dennismalley8882]

Have you or any of your clients compared the 699 pro V2 to Ping 1525? Srixon ZX5?

[@EFG2]

I don't carry Ping as of right now so I can't speak to that. The Srixon is going to have a much thinner top line and far less offset than the 699 pro.

[@FirstLast-oo5ms]

Can u please compare px 6.5 and modus 125 stiff please.

[@kylenathe4073]

Do you have Left Handed demos of the new 699 v2? What about other LH Sub70 models? Thanks!

[@EFG2]

Yes I have both the 699 and 699 pro in the v2. I also have the 659 cb in LH.

[@kylenathe4073]

@@EFG2 Thank you! Might have to come over from SC soon for a fitting

[@EFG2]

@@kylenathe4073 Would love to have you!

[@MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz]

What about dispersion and sound. I like a more muted sound not the slap sound. Comparing to pxg 0211 x core

[@EFG2]

I think the 699 line sounds/feels just as good as any hollow body iron on the market.

[@michaelsnakebite4707]

AJ.. How do i get a set og heads only.? Shipped to Thailand..🤔 Any help seriously apriciated...🙏

[@michaelsnakebite4707]

Looking for old version 699 Pro.

[@EFG2]

@@michaelsnakebite4707 Not sure. They don't sell just the heads.

[@michaelsnakebite4707]

@@EFG2 Thanks for quick answer..👍

[@michaelsnakebite4707]

AJ.. i like Takomo, but no Gw. 🤔 Sub70 can get 5/6-Sw. How big diff in ofset are there between the 2.? Blade lenght.? Know u made video, but no compare pics in it.?(cant find the damn video now) Feel in iron is personal, so just trying to get facts on specs! 🤔 Tnx for any help! 🤞👍

[@EFG2]

@@michaelsnakebite4707 Takomo has less offset and higher lofts when matching against similar Sub 70. What I ended up doing with my 659 MBs was adding a little loft across the set to both give more traditional lofts (which I prefer) and reduce the offset a little.

[@jesscollinson6720]

Nice to see you're doing some DTC reviews. How would you compare them with your 201's? Which ones do you like best

[@EFG2]

The 699 is more like the 101. The 201 is more like the 659CB. Those two are pretty close.

[@AndreasLarzon]

Very interesting to see the difference between these two. Do you have any experience with the difference between 639MB and 659MB forged? Another question unrelated to the Sub70. Do you have any experience with the DTC brand Gigagolf and their c510, m510 and m410 series? Would be interesting to hear your take on these as well.

[@EFG2]

I've never tried the 639 line so I can't say. As for Gigagolf, I've heard the name but never tried them or had anyone bring them to me for work.

[@jek7011]

Can you do some video on why most companies are going "stronger"? Also, my current P is at 46 and 5 is at 25. If I buy a set with P at 44 (and let's say 5 is at 23), would you adjust wedge lofts (and also hybrid loft) or just make the iron new set weak? This has been one of the main reasons I stay with the old iron set.

[@EFG2]

Just comes down to the gapping both between irons and transitioning from irons into wedges or hybrids. I think getting everything bent 1 degree weaker is never a bad idea.

[@Criscross292]

How would you compare these to the Takomo 101? Thanks

[@EFG2]

Pretty close though I like the feel a little more with the Sub 70s. You also have options for set makeup with Sub 70, Takomo is only 4-pw every time so it's not the best option for some.

[@cheesemouse7774]

I like the shape of the V2 better.

[@seanpeacock5595]

Any noticeable feel difference between the models? Too bad you have to buy them without trying them out. I’m not inclined to buy irons having never hit them.

[@edj9961]

They do demo if i remember correctly

[@samuelcollie2050]

@@edj9961 The do but not all over the country. I bought the original 699's knowing my specs from a fitting. As I've gotten older and slower, I am going to try the new Mizuno 923 HL irons. I can hit those at my local Golf Galaxy.

[@EFG2]

You could come see me for a fitting 😀 Other option is, and I am not sure if you can do it through them but I could, build you just 1 or 2 clubs to be able to actually put through it's paces. I've done this before so you can see exactly what you're getting and with your preferred shaft and grip.

[@wskrsjelly3207]

They have a 60 day money back guarantee as well. I bought a set of set of irons from them and turned them back in, only cost me return shipping.

[@busman46]

Impressive distance out of pitching wedges AJ. What club were you actually hitting? You NEVER said, never showed the club number. Also would help to know your swing speed to determine smash factor or it could have been displayed in your data set. It is helpful to find out there is very little difference between the performance of Sub 70 club heads. I have been trying to decide between Sub 70 and Takomo so this pushed me toward Takomo a bit.

[@EFG2]

These were all 7 irons. Usually my speed is in the upper 80s with a 7 iron. Carry around 165 for stock 7 iron.

[@jonq8714]

The old ones are nicer looking.

[@dkarlovsky]

Thanks for the comparison! I just got the v1 699's in the summer and glad now I don't feel an urge to upgrade. Yet. :) I like the white alignment line they added on the v2 though. Did you find it useful? I may paint-pen my v1's!

[@EFG2]

I didn't really notice it much. It's not my favorite feature in irons but I've had a few people mention how much they like the line so.