New Synology Bee Station Review - did Synology nail it?

[@ThomasAgain]

You're still one of my favorite people to watch on YT, and I even watch on 1x 🤣Always enjoy the content!

[@Sebyllis7350k]

the stress on watching on 1x is hilarious. i watch too much stuff on 2x as well.

[@thku1623]

I got a Synology diskstation a year ago and had a hard time configuring it. I love and hate the amount of settings at the same time. Probably the beestation would have been a good alternative for me. Thanks for the explanations.

[@regwatson2017]

Same here. This is exactly what I wanted and needed. The only concern is that if you dont have a secondary backup in some way if you lose the device - eventually that single disk is going to fail and then what ?

[@kstevenson3504]

I wish i knew about this before i spent the money i did. I dont really know how to use my NSA. I don't have time to invest in learning. I probably just wanted a Bee Station

[@ItsEverythingElse]

I don't see the point of a NAS unless it has at least two hard disks.

[@ScottMyers-l1z]

Yeah, I think the thought here is the files live on your phone/device and are backed up to this box. Then if you wipe your phone, etc, you can easily restore. And, if the drive dies, you typically would still have the data on your phone/device. For most home users this is likely fine, but yes I agree, I don't think we are the target market here.

[@TheJLMDT]

An external hdd for backup will be sufficient for the target market of this device

[@SpaceRexWill]

RAID is NOT a backup. RAID is used to make sure that a business does not have an outage due to hardware failure. An actual backup is sticking an external hard drive on this thing and having it run hyperbackup

[@SuperMari026]

@@SpaceRexWill Don't think they consider RAID a 'backup' however I do agree this classifies more as an external HDD rather than NAS.

[@sylvainalain6637]

External drive with a remote access. That’s it. It’s not a NAS.

[@jarnold2468]

Great video, as always. You suppose there is any way to have it backup or sync, remote to another synology like i can with my DiskStation?

[@joem2209]

Wish I would seen this last week when I started to set up my first Synology NAS. Have had nothing but problems and hours and hours of troubleshooting. For a user like me this looks like what I really needed but with $500 invested in a NAS I guess it’s too late. DAM!

[@MichaelBeltranPhoto]

Sorry to hear that. It can be a fun hobby but it really is that, a time consuming hobby. Synology hardware holds its value pretty well so it might not be a bad idea to consider selling and purchasing this instead.

[@AaAa-je5eo]

Did you follow SpaceRex's tutorials on here? They are essentially foolproof, maybe you can go back and start from scratch?

[@LIVEFRMNYC]

I might purchase this just to auto backup important folders on my Synology NAS. Is that possible, or is this just for backing up desktop OS?

[@irokese4124]

Great question! This would be my most wanted use case as well!

[@jimlee1498]

This would be useful for my family to use for primary photo, pc backup. I can then use my DS920+ for surveillance station and a geographically isolation backup to Bee. To confirm Hyperbackup can be programmed to backup Bee to DS920+?

[@TheJLMDT]

I’m really torn whether I should get this or a DS224+ for my parents. They would have zero intention of learning about the ins-and-out of the NAS software so the simplicity factor is meaningless. I almost feel a DS224+ is the far better option so I can setup SHR and a VPN server to remotely fix anything that needs it.

[@joem2209]

I am probably your parent’s age and somewhat technically experienced. Bought a DS223j 4 days ago. Spent the last 4 days and over 20 hours of frustration plus many KZbin videos trying to get it set up and working only to have it crash. Now can’t even log into it. Save your parents the frustration. A SSD and cloud service would be easiest, seems like beestaion might also be easy but I hate buying first generation products.

[@therealocgamer9701]

I have a larger Synology NAS that I don’t want tied to my Plex account. I’m looking for a secondary, budget-friendly NAS to act as a Plex media server for family photos, videos, and a small subset of my MP4 library (around 3-4TB max). It would need to work seamlessly with the Plex app on a Google TV streamer so my wife can access content easily. I’d transfer additional files to this secondary NAS from my main NAS as needed. I guess the answer depends on whether the Google TV streamer can do video transcoding but generally speaking, is the Synology BeeStation a good option for this?

[@JulioLuciano14]

Can you change the language? For example if where I live comes with another language pre-installed and I want to change to English

[@endotherm]

Wouldn't the Media folder be intended to hold the other two conspicuous categories which seem to be absent -- music and video? Not sure why they would think the average person is only interested in photos and general-purpose files. Aren't video/audio/image (or photo/video/music) the three categories supported by dlna?

[@SpaceRexWill]

I think this is meant to dumb things down further than DLNA

[@endotherm]

@@SpaceRexWill I didn't think you could get any dumber/simpler than dlna 🙂.

[@nerkymusselman8843]

is this something that plex would work with for simply playing movies and tv shows?

[@gregf9160]

Thanks, Will. I know a few people for whom this would be an ideal solution, despite a few very minor limitations 👍

[@RealMuperSan]

How would you use this with apple photos? You manage the photos only in this NAS?

[@evan]

Great review! Thanks as always

[@TobiLotta]

can i run plex on it?

[@manulovesjesus]

Honestly a killer package for most users imho at this moment in time. I especially love the object detection possibility in the beePhotos App through hardware acceleration. For a normal synology diskstation you’d need at least 4GB of RAM to get this feature in synology photos. At that point you are looking at least at a DS224+ over double the price in package vs the beestation. I also like the possibility of SMB which enables streaming in local network too. The only gripe I have with it is the requirement of internet connection in order to use the apps. At least as far as I understand it. I’d like to keep the device more local in my network.

[@marshallgoldberg8376]

Can you buy a second Bee Station, install it at a remote location, and use it to backup the primary Bee Station?

[@SpaceRexWill]

You cannot

[@MJK0627]

I am guessing that DS Note won't sync with this, correct?

[@benjaminleonhardi3830]

Is it easy though?

[@marshallgoldberg8376]

No, it’s very, very easy. And very, very simple.

[@velodyneman]

Any chance on doing a video setting up the family sharing aspect? Thanks!

[@rippedray]

so you can do a photo shoot and put them on this bee station and be able to share those photos with clients straight from the bee station still in raw format so they can do the edits themselves?

[@ZubinSaxena]

Wish they would just add 4 slots for nvme with scaling in the same form factor and full synology experience. Would be an instant buy.

[@steverosenblum823]

With the demise of the Apple Time Capsules a few years ago, that left a number of my friends and family without automatic time machine backups of their Macs. I told them to get a small external drive and plug it in every day or week to do a back up, but most people don't do it. So to me, this seems like it would be a great Time Capsule replacement if it can be easily set up to do Time Machine backups. It would be worth it just for that. When you spoke briefly about the SMB section you kind of breezed by the fact that it is set up to do Time Machine if this is enabled. Can you please do a quick tutorial on how to set one of these up to act solely as a Time Machine back up? I think you would be doing many of us a service in doing that. Thanks!

[@antcooper]

I'd like to know this too - can it be setup to do TimeMachine for all the Macs in my family? 

[@PubgPeaks]

Can I use backblaze for cloud back up instead of Synology c2

[@mariorabay4724]

Do you have a video to show how to eat it up on a MacBook Pro? I tried, and I couldn't make it work.

[@sebastianschneider4345]

Can a BeeStation be integrated into my HyperBackup on my Main-DiscStation? So there will be one at a casual users home and will backup to my big one?

[@TheFirestpr111]

Hi, great video. Can I have my wife download from her computer her files to a seperate folder and my files from my computer to my own folder instead of having it all in one group of files? It would be so much easier. Or Can I setup a destination foder when moving files or pictures? Thanks in advance for your help.

[@richard281150]

I was thinking about getting a 2 bay NAS such as the Synology DS224+ but then came across your posting of the Bee Station. Surely this is the same as just having a 4 TB external HDD or am I wrong in that assumption?

[@raffaello6787]

Well no, it's not a passive storage unit, it's a server with its own processor and operating system. It's an always-on network device that allows remote access and sync from multiple devices. You can't do that with an external HDD if you turn off the computer it's attached to.

[@nawaf24199]

I wish they add another 4TB mirroring drive for backup. OMG, that would be the best option for a lot of users, including myself

[@dubsmachine555]

Can you map this as a physical drive in windows for example as drive z: ?

[@benassur5152]

Interesting. But, what about saving my musics: no streaming? Thanks

[@johannguasch754]

Is this a good idea to use as a Mac Time Machine drive over network? Does it have fast enough read/write over network?

[@djsyrex]

Do you have a video on how to access the synology drive from a remote connection using filezilla?

[@jimmatthews5900]

I bought a Synology DSj120 back in January. I got it working but it was really slow. BlackMagic read write gave me 7mbs, I had to wait for tech support to set up a case # and then call me. Well I am at work and not able to be at home waiting for a tech to help me out. I returned it. I am sure I did not know what all the setting were for and the speed was due to me. I was used to an Apple Time Capsule that died. Can you use this with a mac and Time Machine? What are the expected read and write speeds?

[@PlanetLinuxChannel]

I do wish it were possible to backup the BeeDrive directly to another Synology NAS via HyperBackup. Id love to get one of these for my parents to easily store their files and photos, but have it backup to my NAS in case anything happened to it.

[@malakiy8688]

im just wondering can it work asa time machine back up I see many asking this question but no answers!

[@doriankandi2695]

Do you know if a 2.5Gb Ethernet adapter (usb) will work?

[@jesslorenzo]

This is a recipe for disaster. Before I had my Synology DS920+, I used an Apple time capsule for my backups and files. I became dependent on it without understanding drive lifespan and failures. They will likely put their files in this drive without regard for backup or redundancies. This will do the same thing for users as Apple does with the time capsule. As users fill up the drive up to 3T, they will see later that it will be hard to manage when the drive life ends. They will need a cloud-based backup or migrate their data by buying another Bee Station. This second alternative will entail technical knowledge unlikely to a Bee Station user.

[@mikeschwingel7584]

Just curious instead of using the Ethernet port is there a way just to use WIFI?

[@HumphreyvanLee]

No, it is in the FAQ. Only ethernet.

[@BattleBear96]

If it is using QuickConnect for Remote Access: Is it just as Slow as any other DS? No BeeStation User is going to do Firewall Rules on his Router so the QC Proxy servers still are a bottleneck?

[@pbrigham]

So simple and especially for users that don't know anything about NASs, one day they woke up with the Bee Station hard drive dead and will ask where is my files? is simple, they are gone.

[@enricod.7198]

Is it really nailed when a company like synology makes this product in which you can't even swap disks in the case of failure?

[@drmyothant9128]

Can it do the file sync function?

[@aayush_dutt]

Thanks this is an amazing review. 1. Is internet connection/synology servers a requirement for setting up or authenticating? 2. Does it have btrfs snapshots/versions for files?

[@SpaceRexWill]

So for first setup internet is required, after that you can just use a local account. But it’s not really what this is designed for

[@VITPROConsulting]

Can we use this as NVR ? to save Camera feed?

[@SpaceRexWill]

Nope!

[@philippeboucaumont9875]

how many time did you used the word "Easy",

[@naifaljahimi]

Hello Sir and thank you for your video I just want to ask if I can hook this device (Synology Bee Station) to my router and use it as a main storage device to my PC and transfer my PC data to it (using LAN Cable) and at the same time access it through my phone in the cloud? i want a storage solution where I can easily store my local PC data and view them in the phone but with out relying on the internet speed to store my PC Data. will this device fulfilled my need? thank you again.

[@SpaceRexWill]

This is what it is setup to do. But it's really focused on documents and things like that. Not hard core media files or anything completed

[@COR0NAD0]

I was interested, but my boy said, it’s a dumb down version😮. Got to rethink it! Thanks for the video.

[@raycollington4310]

Not sure about having to use the web to connect to a device on the same desk as the pc. Just me I guess. Thanks Will

[@SpaceRexWill]

For people who understand how to do this (lookup a LAN IP) they have the "local" account that you can setup. I would highly recommend anyone set this up, as if synology servers ever go down, this will still work

[@raycollington4310]

@@SpaceRexWill Thanks Will. I think any of your subscribers will be influenced by the inspiration and NAS tech education you have given to us. Great channel, thank you.

[@se7enity648]

I am now starting my research into storage and now that Drobo has gone this drive is interesting.

[@drticzon]

Will: The 4TB version is $299 on Amazon, it is not $200. The $199 is 2TB storage model.

[@SpaceRexWill]

The 299 one must be a scam one. They dont make a 2TB. only a 4. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1813838-REG/synology_bst150_4t_4tb_beestation_personal_cloud.html/BI/21903/KBID/28271/DFF/d10-v21-t1-x1431339/SID/DFF

[@SpaceRexWill]

Update: looked into it. You found the beeDRIVE not the beeSTATION (this is on synology, horrible naming convention)

[@drticzon]

Thanks Will for sending me to the correct product. Love all your videos. You provide good information every time.@@SpaceRexWill

[@zer0r00t]

Yo spacerex, I like your shirts. Where do you buy them from?

[@US_Joe]

Good review - Thanx Rex. I don't feel comfortable with WD MyDrive 👍👍👍

[@mso]

Why?

[@US_Joe]

@@mso Had 2 fail. I use a WD Gold in an external enclosure.

[@Billberlin]

I suggest the drinking game where you have to drink a shot every time the words “very easy to ….” or “really easy to…” are said. 😂 But honestly I think it’s a nice device for non professional users, who just want something that works out of the box and has some advantages over the external hdd that they used to backup their data so far. Something you can recommend to your parents / grandparents.

[@grotekleum]

Hey, I'm a parent-grandparent and this is just too simple for my needs. I might recommend it for my grandchildren though.

[@paulbmurphy]

This is a brilliant concept. Most ordinary people are too busy to be messing about under the bonnet of a NAS. But for the love of god why did Synology not equip this box with a decent processor and memory function. If mere photos prompt the spinning wheels of death (as per your video) then what about those beloved family videos? I'm not asking for the earth, just a few GB of extra ram would help.

[@marshallgoldberg8376]

Cost, of course.

[@paulbmurphy]

your are right, but a few gb of ram is inexpensive @@marshallgoldberg8376

[@enricod.7198]

Non swappable hdd is a no go for me.

[@paulbmurphy]

@@marshallgoldberg8376 ram is cheap - I’ve just whacked 18gb into a synology nas for about $20

[@TingleCowboy]

The device is above all an easy way to lose your data. However, this is not just a problem with this device, but with all NAS devices in general. With the more professional devices, it is actually assumed that the user installs a UPS themselves. But with this simple device, the rather inexperienced user is guaranteed not to do anything like that. And even if he does, I don't see an option here that would shut down the BeeStation in the event of a power outage if the UPS battery runs out at some point. This means that the data is on a hard drive that is constantly active and is not connected to a fail-safe power supply. In the event of a power failure or accidental unplugging, the hard drive can always be damaged. Any laptop that has an external hard drive connected to it is much, much safer in this regard. Synology should have installed a small battery here that would at least ensure a safe shutdown in the event of a power failure.

[@SpaceRexWill]

This power loss issue normally comes from the RAID5 write whole, which in this case is not possible due to it being only a single drive. So your COW BTRFS should pretty much protect you from anything power loss wise

[@TingleCowboy]

@@SpaceRexWill As far as I know, it's not just RAID 5 that is affected by so-called write holes. Sure, a single drive is not a RAID, but I'm not sure if COW is enough to ensure data integrity in all cases. And to be honest, I find it totally incomprehensible that almost every electronic device, no matter how small, now has a battery, except a NAS.

[@twistoflime]

It is misleading for Synology to market this device as a replacement for cloud storage. A cloud subscription typically includes backups; without a Synology C2 subscription plan, you only have the BeeStation with its built-in hard drive and whatever device you choose to keep the originals on.

[@rayzorpdx2664]

it would be nicer if it was bigger than 4tb.

[@ConorLennon]

I need something like this where I can add my own ssd!

[@Carole-tn6pq]

The only surprise with Synology is that they seem to have brought in a real designer to design the interface for them. As a user of Synology NAS, it seems that you don't deserve a better tool interface.

[@Robert-tv3pl]

Is it able to connect to a smart UPS with the USB cable?

[@SpaceRexWill]

Not that I know of

[@Robert-tv3pl]

@@SpaceRexWill Thank you!

[@jasonluong3862]

The first 8 minutes of this video are just belaboring the points.

[@BillMcCarroll]

Maybe if it had more space as an option

[@RealMuperSan]

Yea, why are all KZbinrs saying this is $200?

[@Carole-tn6pq]

Yes, now the designers of BeeFiles can laugh at the designers of Synology Drive. Because BeeFiles' UI lets users know that they live in the present, while Synology Drive lets users know that they live in the last century. 🙏

[@polarwireless]

nice box but I would rather build my own cheap server and install the DS3615 Synology OS which gives you full features of a synology box and upto 12 drive support.

[@marshallgoldberg8376]

Yes, stealing Synology’s software is cheaper than paying for it, but stealing is no way to go through life.

[@polarwireless]

@@marshallgoldberg8376not stealing when it's openly available to download not saying I use it just saying what I would do I use TRUENAS for my storage solutions.

[@polarwireless]

@@marshallgoldberg8376 I already replied to your comment why was it deleted, it's not stealing when the firmware is openly available on their site for download. However I only use TrueNAS you should check that OS out.

[@1a1o]

The best thing about it probably the software.

[@mawymt07]

This device is hopeless, it works very slowly, it copies photos at a very low speed, after two days of not using it, I need a few minutes to preview the photos. I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT, WASTE OF TIME, NERVES AND MONEY. stop listening to KZbin scammers.

[@Musettube]

A bit too repetitive and long, and till now I didn’t see phone interface of synchronization. A question the pixel photo were intentional or just bad CPU?

[@sankarn9046]

Very nice hairstyle thx for the video

[@goodfella_]

Online account for local storage? lol

[@CaptainRon1913]

$220 + Tax

[@AndyShrestha]

1 hard drive fail and boom! 😅

[@imoak3820]

I don't like this product, its hardware is too outdated. There is only one hard disk, how can I recover my data if the hard disk breaks down?The BeeFiles UI interface is very advanced, the Synology Drive interface is too old, Synology doesn't pay attention to give users an excellent interface design experience.🙄

[@brunekxxx91]

I know this is made to bee (pun intended) the simplest but paying like 1000zł (around 300 dollars) in my country for two apps, 1gb of ram and a fucking celeron is a laughing stock.

[@memepasmal77]

It's annoying to watch him read what he is going to announce

[@mario-sz]

I don't understand why this device gets so many good words. I'm afraid Synology doesn't see what happened with WD and online access to their devices. Is this what awaits BeeStation users? YES! Maybe not today or tomorrow. But a ddos ​​or other attack is only a matter of time. It is more than certain that this will happen and you will not get access to your data. And enabling access via LAN, which is available as an option, is BAD!

[@dragonjarl]

First to comment ;-)

[@ItsEverythingElse]

Waste of time

[@yourpcmd]

So basically an overpriced external hard drive.

[@sheenkieperrosario8580]

So allowed change up to 8tb hdd storage?