New Tesla M3P range and efficiency test for UK version - 79kWh Model 3 Performance

[@StiffyToffeePudding]

Just received my M3P in the UK. It’s my first Tesla and as a newbie - I really love it. Great fun and I like the look of it. My 7 yo loves having KZbin in the back for journeys too. They also gave me 15000 supercharger miles which I wasn’t expecting.

[@milesr3]

I have a 2022 M3P with a lifetime average 270Wh/mi. Over the last 2 months / 2,400 miles on Hankook iON evo tyres it's averaging 240Wh/mi. I did a 470 mile highway trip and covered 290 miles before charging. These cars are an incredible combination of efficiency and power - Last week I drove 240 miles to Heathrow and back on 60kW (£4.50) of electricity. Borrowed a dragy the week before and did 3.1s 0-60 relentlessly until I felt sick!

[@kiwi335d]

Great review and as you said very real world. In fact all of your videos lean towards illustrating a very real world experience for the viewer, and that is incredibly helpful to all of us folks who are interested in learning about life with an EV. Thank you for the effort you are putting into taking us along with you.

[@mra9085]

I tried this on Saturday at the local Tesla centre and loved it. They had the demonstrator in ultra red which looked so good and I’d be tempted for that. But the range does seem to be a bit of a shame, and makes the LR at £10k less with a 400 mile range and 4.2 0-60 seem better. However, from the perspective of a car enthusiast, I just think you’d be happier with this over a LR regardless of the efficiency tradeoff. Better seats, active dampers, track mode, carbon spoiler etc - it just has a lot of charm about it, which is often missing in EVs.

[@paulscott1759]

Agree I couldn't justify 10K extra either , it's a good car but 10k is a lot of difference when you can run it for years with that amount of money also the free supercharger miles offer makes it a bit of a nobrainer to go with the cheaper long range

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

@@paulscott1759 you have to try the 3P in the performance mode and do some driving in twisty roads, then you see why it costs more. Its not just power, its brakes, suspension, seats etc. Its just more engaging and fun to drive. Of course if you dont like to be connected to the road and you would just keep it in comfort mode, I would buy the 3 LR instead. Or a used 3P before refresh, but those do have a bit of cabin noise and harsh dampers. However the older 3Ps can be quite the bargain now.

[@mra9085]

@@paulscott1759 About the 15k free supercharger miles: I’ve worked out that it is a saving of at most £1500 for those free miles. However if there is a rate cut on the PCP interest rate, or the PCH lease offer, or even another price drop on 1st July when the next quarter begins, you could save even more than that on the price you pay for the car. So I’ve decided to hold out, which would also enable getting a 74 plate. Plus then you wouldn’t feel under pressure to drive a lot just so you can use the free charging miles

[@paulscott1759]

@@mra9085 you do what you feel is best for you,are you referring to the 1.99% offer on the Apr but definitely check as Elon is tricky with pricing but there are lots of model 3,s and model y,s on the roads now ,personally I would prefer a model Y for the convenience of the hatchback and space

[@TheAegisClaw]

​@@OlavAlexanderMjeldedisagree, the 3LR has plenty of those characteristics for the road. You'll only really notice these things on the track. If you are pushing that hard on the road your license won't last long.

[@indiegrewal569]

We saw you outside the Blue Bar in Porthtowan over the weekend…..noted the RSEV on the car but wasn’t 100% it was you. We picked up our Highland LR on Friday and drove straight down to Porthtowan for a week away…..much improved on the previous 21 plate LR. Absolutely loved the regen braking on Cornish roads. Like I say it would’ve been great to chat Tesla, just wasn’t entirely sure it was you…..keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@kevxsi16v]

I live in Cornwall and have just got a 2021 M3P I love driving it on the roads down here best car I have ever owned.

[@Durzel]

I like your videos Richard, you’re definitely one of the more thorough producers out there. Enjoyed your deep dive into Tesla Vision and Auto Park etc. I have to say though, I skipped through this video a bit and pretty much every time I jumped forward I heard the word “efficiency”, or saw efficiency numbers, etc. Why would I buy this variant of the car if I cared about efficiency? It’s got massive staggered wheels, it’s begging to be ragged. So long as it does a decent number of miles the WH/mile is of no interest at all. LR will be better for range, this will be faster, simple as. Love the seats though, this is what the original Performance should’ve been in terms of the disambiguation between it and the LR. Finally there is a real visual difference.

[@philippvikari8905]

thanks for the review. I just think efficiency is the wrong parameter to talk about with the performance model, as the new tires are wider and stickier to perform and not be efficient. Comparing perfomance while not being in insane mode makes not to much sense to me either. I appreciate your experience with cars, so the difference between standand and sport dampers and more to handling and braking performance would be interesting. thanks a lot

[@Danne89]

The lightning logo on the hood is cool!

[@rajanpatel65]

Another great video! Can’t get enough of U.K. M3P videos!

[@rajanpatel65]

Up your game CarWow! 😂

[@SMX815]

You always give a holistic review & the Tesla model 3 performance locks the business 👍👏

[@denisb7099]

This makes the previous m3p excellent value for money

[@laloajuria4678]

With stalks even.

[@edc1569]

When looking for one on the second hand market a few years from now I’d rather have yours with stalks.

[@Tommmmmmmmmmmm]

@@laloajuria4678stalks suck

[@stevelamb143]

Hi Richard, I have a 2019 M3P, 39k on it. I think it’s comparable on efficiency. Last 20,087 miles 270 WH/M

[@George_Savvidis]

Great video thanks! IMO the model 3 LR is the best choice, very good allrounder.

[@stuartchristie654]

I have had my M3P for 9 months, absolutely love it and as soon as my pcp contract is up I will be replacing it with one of these

[@PLuKE06]

Porthtowen, love that place, many great memories!

[@simonhobbs9097]

Sounds like a LR is a better bet with some individual bits added to give it some personality.

[@pqvid]

Richard, how much of a difference are adaptive dampers to the "normal" highland and to the previous Model 3? I own a 2019 model, test drove the Highland and found it very shaky. It's _too_ comfortable for me, or actually I don't find it comfortable at all - people loving "plush" ride may like it, but it didn't seem composed to me, too many "aftershakes" after a bump. I found another reviewer who addressed exactly this same issue. But besides that one, everyone else seems to be quite happy with Highland's dampers - so that I even started questioning myself, until I found this other person bringing up the same points...

[@nomansland120]

Sounds like its a problem with ur bumbum u gaygay?

[@BlazeFirereign]

I haven't tried the standard or LR Highland, but I did try a Performance for a few hours. So I can't say how it compares to a "normal" Highland, but I can say that I felt it was the opposite of what you describe. Bumps were one-and-done, without being excessively harsh or crashy, and it felt very composed while being chucked down a twisty road. It was worlds better than my 2021 LR, which isn't particularly *soft* but suffers from the "aftershakes" that you describe, and feels unsettled on a bumpy road as a result. (I ended up ordering a Highland P on the same day I tried it.)

[@jamsxr]

Good review. As with the previous model, the long range is the one to have.

[@dougowt]

I got to drive the highland M3P for an hour from the Exeter service centre on Monday. The chassis feels particularly good without getting the chance to push it. The ride is very good. as are the new front seats. The seat base could be a little longer for me, but very comfortable as is and the bolsters hold you in place nicely. I really don't want to part with my Model S but this is a very attractive option, especially with 15k miles supercharging.

[@tesla-spectre]

As always very solid great video and honest. No Fanboying here. I think my Model 3 LR from 12/2021 with USS and Stalks is still a better deal, at least for my needs.

[@AndrewKeyz]

I wouldn't even consider a new one until they bring the stalks back. If that is never, so be it. I'm stunned the cars are legal in the UK with that design (I know Ferraris have it also etc), but still, would you ever consider taking out learner drivers in a car like this? I think not.

[@connclissmann6514]

Thanks for the review. Looking forward to following you on this in the coming months, if not longer.

[@paulmarks6622]

Thanks Richard. For normal family use would you stick to the Performance for the fun factor or go back to your LR for perhaps comfort and practicability?

[@matthewrichardson795]

Spotted the wonderful Trevone Bay!

[@andrewbarrett9277]

Hi Richard great road trip in the new Tesla I love Cornwall I am going to st Ives in the beginning of July it’s a fantastic place to spend a holiday 👍

[@eamonfitzpatrick9429]

I have had mine for a couple of days. Vs my old 2019 in sports/insane node it feels less violent off the line but pulls harder as soon as its moving (i expect its got much longer legs) There is a big difference between insane mode and the others, so much so i would prefer a fourth mode. The rear of the car feels much more planted on country roads Two big downsides that have been bugging me. The lack of the visualisation of distance from roadside at speed and my house gates somehow confuse the camera based parking sensors meaning you end up having to reverse throughout a red stop blob as it slowly passess through the car.

[@kaydendeigan8532]

Saw you in Perranporth! Hope you had a nice holiday 😁

[@Longsnowsm]

I think you need to do the head to head tests to really know how they stack up. I bet it is slightly more efficient than the previous car. The numbers I have been seeing in the calculations from ABRP show the 2024 refreshed M3's are slightly more efficient across the board so I wouldn't expect the M3P to be that different. So let's see some head to heat M3P tests, and another RWD, LR, M3P convoy comparison.

[@dubzfry]

It does seem to be the same as the previous performance. I got slightly better efficiency on a 5 hour drive back from the lake district. Maybe those 275 rear tyres are killing whatever the highland refresh gains were

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Makes the LR look a better bet for most(me), and standard with that safely chargeable to 100% everyday LFP better still

[@markr8131]

No chance. I had a LR for a couple of months and swapped for a M3P. So much more fun. Charging is so quick and infrequent but acceleration on tap is so fun. You only live once.

[@PHY51C15T]

I traded in my 2022 M3P for a 2024 Highland RWD; love it. No regrets. Don't miss the power, and looking foward to not seeing 8% degradation in after 35k kms

[@christianpadilla2928]

I guess that depends on the case if you charge model 3 performance 20-80 % and leave that setting on the city and only charge to 100% on long trips youre degradation is very slow. ​@@PHY51C15T

[@markr8131]

@@PHY51C15T base M3 is better than the LR. But you will miss the power when some crazy driver thinks they’re quick in an ICE. As for degradation - I don’t keep cars for more than 3 years and haven’t even noticed a loss in range - just such a non issue.

[@PHY51C15T]

@@markr8131 helps not driving like you don't share the road; you're less inclined to deal with crazy drivers or tempted to speed excessively. SR+ has plenty of highway passing power. I plan to keep this car definitely so the version with the LFP pack makes the most sense. I plus, interior is better in the Base car IMO

[@milesr3]

328mi from 79kWh is 3% less efficient than 352mi from 82kWh isn’t it? AIUI the ‘24 rear motor is less efficient and the rear tyres are wider. I certainly didn’t expect it to be more efficient or have greater range than the previous M3Ps.

[@christianolsen9781]

If they offered the sport seats in the SR, I would go that direction. Really the loose seats are my only big issue with the SR. Plenty fast and just mind blowing efficiency without trying.

[@nikelliot8105]

Standard felt similar to our 75D for performance, USA videos showing 3.9secs to 60, similar to 75D.

[@jezza6575]

2.9

[@Techning]

Great video with valid critic. I'm a bit tired of the over positiv reviews of this car. The range difference between the LR and the P is bigger than expected and the P is also quite close to the standard. The range is a bit of a mystery to me because on EV-database the old M3P has a real range of 470 km which is 35 km more than the new one.

[@davidrunnalls3039]

Lifton in Cornwall? Have they moved the border? Lifton is in Devon!!! Launceston is in Cornwall and is a couple of miles south you need to cross the Tamar that's where the county border is.

[@neilm9400]

I enjoyed the Bodmin jail visit 👍

[@steveyoung8376]

i think we will see you in the hyundai ionic 5N soon!

[@asadameer19]

Would like to see a side by side comparison with a 2022 M3P and 2024 M3P and compare efficiency, power, drive etc

[@evostu7814]

I watched a video of the old M3 performance against the US version highland performance & it got absolutely trounced, looks like we got short changed with the Chinese car.

[@BrokenNinja]

Also for situations where stuff gets stuck on the windows etc and to wash bird poop off I carry around a spray bottle filled with 0ppm filtered water, it's very handy.

[@ozbmr]

My MY21 Model 3 Performance has averaged 218 wh/m (136 wh/km) over the last 16,000 miles (26,000km) with a mix of highway and city driving. Even at highway speeds of 68mph (110km/h) I see an average of no more than 218 wh/m. I have FastEV EVO1(+) 18" alloys with Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 6 235/45/R18.

[@CED99]

Your smaller than average (stock M3P) wheels will help a bit with efficiency

[@ozbmr]

@@CED99 Correct, compared to the stock Uberturbine wheels the smaller, lighter wheels are 3.55% more efficient. For the 16,000 miles prior to changing the wheels and tyres I averaged 227 wh/m (141 wh/km) The main reason I changed wheels was to have 40% lower tyre cost and improve comfort without compromising performance/handling. I think the Goodyear F1's are better than the stock Pirelli's in wet and dry grip and braking. They are also low noise.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Lifton now has v4 superchargers? Ooh.

[@IanOwens-s8w]

Yep, noticed this on the Tesla site. Not sure that there is a lot there

[@jakecoventry9004]

Yes, I think 16 of them! I charged my BMW there. Thank god for those long cables!

[@brianmckenna3440]

You took your good wife toJail😂😅😅great video

[@JetWash944]

I really don’t get what’s going on with the window tinting (or lack of it) a la the current Model Y? It looks really odd to me, especially the fade from the roof to the entirely clear rear window. I happened to park my MYP next to a Highland LR the other day and both were white with the white interior. The M3 really did look like a bit fallen off the Y, and with these windows nothing like as ‘punchy’ or ‘cool’ (if that’s even quantifiable?!) I also really didn’t like what they’ve done with the boot lines around the light clusters. The Highland is a great car but there are some questionable design choices in there for me.

[@dazfrombramley]

I have a 2022 M3P with a semi-permanant roofrack on, don't think i've ever dropped below 300w/m, probably avg 350w/m

[@majordelays4909]

Hi do you have a video recommending charging solutions for home. I have a 21 M3LR, usage will be 20-40 miles a few times a week and then 150 on weekend is possible Once a quarter 400 miles return journey via motorways. We are with octopus on agile tariff. And high energy users for tumble drier and used electric heaters to target kids bedroom when it was negative or low prices in winter

[@SuperlightR400]

Great short sweet unbiased video

[@dionpedersen5435]

@RSEV what are your thoughts on this? The new 3 performance LG or a MS Ludicrous 2019/2020 for the same price? (In Denmark) - i have a ModelS 85D and Model3 LR 2021... looking to replace my MS, but disappointed with the LG pack for the EU M3P, looks nice though... I can get a Second hand MS Raven ludicrous with 85.000km for the same price... (insurrance is double on that though compared to the M3P) Driving 160km pr. Day 90% motorway... I love to make quick overtakes 😂

[@alecking3096]

That’s a hell of a lot of money for softer suspension, nicer seats and no indicator stalks.

[@Raymaster7482]

Thx for the review. I still don't know why Tesla didn't give the M3P a 100 kWh battery... yes the car would be a bit heavier but it would also have more power and range... and yes, a 100 kWh battery would fit into the M3 quite easily nowadays

[@enriquedeldod7193]

More power????? Why?

[@EwanM11]

Cost and complexity. The m3p is a trivial change from the LR. That said, I'd love to see a German made m3p with front and rear casting and 4680 batteries.

[@thedaveaftertomorrow]

Do the new seats have adjustable lumbar support?

[@colinrobinson7869]

Do love a bit of wild live head up display ☢

[@neilcollins5930]

Thanks for this I’ve done 50k in the last 2 years in a Y Long range it’s been good . Next year the lease comes to an end so do I stay with the Y ( no) go 3 LR or performance. I think I’d go LR can’t see the advantage of the performance apart from 0-60 which as all Tesla owner know starts to become irrelevant

[@nickolassnielsen]

The reason to choose a performance if you ignore the extra hp and faster acceleration. Sports seats, Bigger and nicer brakes, 20" light weight rims with good tires, Styling as a spoiler, more sporty front and rear bumper, lowered adaptive chassis, aluminum pedals and carbon fiber interior. Software track mode v3. Otherwise choose a Long range.

[@neilcollins5930]

Ah got ya … I’ll still get a long range though

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

hey RSEV, is the battery different from the new Long Range? I don't know which one to buy, feels like the Performance is a bit of a compromise? why the rated range is so much lower than the LR

[@BlazeFirereign]

In most (all?) markets outside of the US, the LR and P get the same battery pack. (An LG Chem NMCA battery with approx. 79kWh capacity) Yes, it's a compromise on efficiency. Like many performance cars. The rated range is lower because it has more drag, thanks to the splitter, diffuser, spolier, brake cooling ducts at the front, and in particular the larger 20" wheels, plus the added rolling resistance of using ultra high performance tyres, with a larger 275 section width at the back. If you used an aftermarket 18" wheel (preferably one with aero covers) and fitted low rolling resistance tyres in a square 235 setup, it would get close to the efficiency and range of an LR. Although I'd argue that if you were considering fitting low rolling resistance tyres instead of high performance ones, then perhaps the Performance is the wrong choice entirely.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

@@BlazeFirereign I thought the LRs got the iron phosphate battery which some claimed it to be a better long therm solution I was looking to get the perf since the price is kinda there and is a nicer trim, and yes I would definately get some custom 19” wheels, so I also have to figure out what are the offsets for the winter set

[@BlazeFirereign]

@@alpenfoxvideo7255 Only the base car gets the lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery. LFP has some advantages, mainly cost, but it has a lower energy and power density and isn't currently suitable for high-performance or long-range vehicles. The claims about it being a "better long term solution" are based on its cycle life, as it suffers less degradation from each charge/discharge cycle compared to the other chemistries. However, for most EVs and most use cases, the main source of degradation is calendar aging - in other words, they degrade from age whether or not they are used - and LFP is comparable in calendar aging to the other chemistries.

[@themanofmead5273]

I’m really not convinced of the benefits of pre-conditioning. Yes it may save a few minutes of time at the charger but at what additional cost of heating the battery? How much time does it really save and do you really need to save those minutes anyway. Really not convinced.

[@markymarkreviews]

Agreed. It should be user selectable. If you are stopping to eat and relax as well as charge, I would prefer a slightly slower charge. There are still plenty of improvements Tesla could make to their biggest selling EV. There is now plenty of EV competition.

[@RSEV]

Me too…. Keep meaning to make a video with two identical cars to test

[@Joe-lb8qn]

@@markymarkreviews I suppose you can make it user selectable by not explicitly navigating to the chargers.

[@300rivers4]

I'll have one of those Ford vans at 6:39 also!

[@flexboardseu]

Will it be possible to add a Towbar afterward as it is not in the option list now for a bike rack

[@nickfarrington2390]

I have an order and really worried that it doesn't feel any quicker - the rear motor is supposed to be 30% better. I'm worried because it might mean that the rumours of the Shanghai battery being limited on power are true, which in turn means they might update the battery and release more power in a year or so. Don't want the car if that's going to happen - I'll wait instead... C'mon Richard, attach a Dragy to it! We need to know.

[@allangraham970]

Dr knowitall tested M3P in insane mode and he was really impressed. Most reviewers have said the M3P performs extremely well when rested in insane mode. Clearly in this video nothing was done to test the cars performance so either view other people's video of the car being tested in performance road or wait for this channel performance test perform coming to conclusions about its performance abilities. All we know from this review is this car will perform well if used as a daily driver. Looking forward to the performance review. Suspect a racing car driver might be the needed for the the performance review

[@nickolassnielsen]

@@allangraham970 Dr knowitall Isn't that the US version?

7.47 In the words of Bjørn: "Sheeeiiiiiiit".

[@G3RTH]

Be interesting to see a draggy race between 2019 MP3, 2022 MP3 and the new 2024 MP3......I haven't seen this video released yet on KZbin 💯🙏🙏🙏🙏😁

[@RSEV]

Will do when get chance! I have a 2019 but need the 21 75, a 22 82kwh and 23 79kwh to complete the lineup

[@BrokenNinja]

My guess there will be a software update to increase the acceleration after a few months or so, it's a new motor setup for them

[@Vtech-bp1fj]

Driving in Standard? Is there not a Chill mode?

[@MrGMawson2438]

It's been like April Showers here

[@harmony3138]

I thought it was about car review here 🤔

[@derekporter66]

very very close to getting the old M3P. any reason not to?

[@Selene_M3]

‘23 RWD 3 feels really fast to me especially from 30 mph onwards. Maybe I should never try the performance model to keep that feeling and prevent FOMO.

[@teslasnek]

If you put smaller aerodynamic wheels and low rolling resistance tires on it, the performance model 3 can go 330 miles per charge on the freeway. I drove my 2022 model 3 performance from Chula Vista to San Luis Obispo on a single charge which is the distance of 330 miles. I have videos on my channel to prove it 😎

[@hardywoodaway9912]

as an 22 m3p owner I am disappointed that their is no significant update in power due to the limitations of the battery. I think the newer version looks better and looks more like a performance model though. I hope their comes a version with a more capable battery within the next 2years. Especially the 100-200time has to drop… now you’re barely faster than a Model Y LR … that has to change

[@S71DYproductions]

Plymouth Hoe and Salcombe! Lovely areas!

[@corbett666]

Seems that we got short changed in the U.K., in comparison to the US version with the bigger battery, reviews make this out to be night and day on the old one with much faster tops end acceleration… disappointing

[@stevenjones916]

I'd be more upset at the price difference than the acceleration times.

[@Delbane1]

How does the nvh and comfort compare to the 21+ model S ?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Richard have you driven any FSD

[@nikelliot8105]

Could not get the seat low enough on our test drive, still not as comfortable as an S🤔 Support is excellent but can't get low enough to feel in the car, not on it!

[@fluxxi5289]

It's interesting that you feel like the acceleration is the same, it's probably to do with the UK getting a lower horsepower than the US model (460 vs 510). Disappointed in that efficiency though, after the LR seems to stay around 4.5-5 miles/kWh, 3.5 miles/kWh is really quite garbage

[@nickolassnielsen]

Remember 20" wheels take ~60-70 miles of range.

[@Mattceeee]

Yes and uk gets shafted again. No RHD S or X (or cyber truck) and the new Performance gets a lesser battery and less power.

[@AndrewKeyz]

@@Mattceeee Cybertruck would never pass any type of pedestrian test. It's an absolute stupid, dangerous design. Like driving around with angled swords on your car.

[@Vee2711]

I do not understand why we couldn’t get the LG battery. 😢

[@antoinepageau8336]

Can’t beat the rwd model for value. If the exterior of the performance version was more remarkable and if I could get the Panasonic batteries in Canada, maybe the performance version could make sense… nah

[@steveyoung8376]

especially as more tesla superchargers and ionity chargers out there, the non tesla network is improving fast

[@TrickyTree84]

Didn't they sack the team and all incomplete projects?

[@JT-zs8cd]

On my m3 highland the indicators dont shut off when u turn the wheel in opposite direction like normal petrol cars do, its totally random and annoying

[@richardnixon4345]

Don’t bother indicating. Problem solved

[@61mja]

Dog mode? If you had your dog with you how did that go?

[@John-fl8wv]

Unless you are comparing the 2 models at the same time, conditions and weights your data is almost worthless. Sorry this is not science. Do it right.

[@filippo3783]

Are m3 highland matrix better than model y matrix or older model 3 matrix?

[@raymonddsouza8948]

No, apparently the number of LEDs and the overall intensity of the beam is inferior to the older cars, from the reviews I have seen.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Downtown Stress Test With Tesla FSD 12.4.1! Dirty Tesla 113K subscribers

[@CJoel5]

Drag race it against the old model with carwow

[@murraymclean1428]

I’m averaging 314w/m over 43k miles in a M3P 2021 very rarely see under 300 unless I’m driving like a granny.

[@franklong6269]

You're feeding to larger motors with the Performance version, so it's not going to get the range of the two-motor Long Range version.

[@richardeskins]

Portthtowan… Blue Bar..😊

[@Exito.618]

picked up a 2019 M3P with 3k coilovers and 8 wheels for 27k swiss francs. Much better deal to me. The new version isn't worth more than double that price imo

[@AndrewKeyz]

You can find 2021 M3P here in the UK for indeed half price now. Maybe 20K miles or so. Not worth £60K to buy new. People spending absolute crazy amounts on monthly payments. I guess much of it is other people's money though (business rates / tax incentives, whatever).

[@mhsohel47]

Greatest value car 🎉 congratulations 😍

[@Mattceeee]

I had a 1st gen M3P and currently have the refresh M3P and I’m pretty underwhelmed with this new version. It’s now a 5 yr old car and was hoping for bigger changes when the Highland rumours started . For the top spec, performance version, it has no extra power really, no better range and to the untrained eye, doesn’t look that different at all from the car that was launched in 2019. Putting redesigned front and rear lights, slight changes to the rear, a new bumper and new wheels on is lazy really. Yes the suspension is better but it was quite poor to start with so to take 5 years to fix is pretty overdue. I was hoping for more power, maybe a choice of decent wheels and to look more aggressive so I won’t be buying a third one. Yes it looks better but I can’t help feel it could be so much better.

[@markymarkreviews]

Agreed. I think Tesla are fast losing their EV advantage. plenty of EV competition with manufacturers giving customers what they want-HUD etc. Tesla still lead with efficiency and range.. for now.

[@waynerussell6401]

Highland has had ~50% of the parts changed since inception - new car.

[@AndrewKeyz]

@@markymarkreviews Just seems weird Tesla adding in a rear super low angled screen for "possible" passengers by default, removing stalks and still no small instrument cluster / speedometer up front. Plus releasing a stupid cybertruck only in the USA market. Stupid priorities.

[@DES0MX0]

400km more than enough between bio breaks (provided supercharging / HPC charging)

[@EcoFP33]

Is the turning circle still dreadful?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello guys

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers mate

[@bigrobsydney]

This costs $AU80,000, which is around £42,000. Why you guys have to pay £57k is beyond me.

[@nickolassnielsen]

Believe taxes and taxes... And more taxes...

[@eprohoda]

insan content. :)

[@mikaelvellmun7228]

It's def noticable faster than previous years

[@gap9992]

So who can actually use half of the performance of even just the LR AWD on UK roads? pre the EV era I had a 911 and a couple of M series BMWs and they were nothing other than a source of frustration. Flooring it along a motorway slip road wears a bit thin after a while! I had a lot more fun in a relatively pedestrian MX5. I live in Surrey and nearly all the country lane speed limits have been cut to 40, or 50 if you are lucky. Then there is the heavy traffic, which just gets worse every year. The only point of the M3P or similar is the rather childish bragging rights down the pub - unless maybe you use it regularly for track days. Even then you would be far better off renting a proper track car. I am old now and can see the folly of these stupidly quick cars. I love my Model Y RWD, which can still perform much quicker than where I drive allows

[@AndrewKeyz]

There's a M3P in white parked near me where I live, with the spoiler starting to peel off. I'm not impressed at the quality.

[@BlazeFirereign]

If an MX5 scratches your itch, that's great. Personally, I had a blast chucking the Highland P down a quiet, twisty road near me on a test drive. The suspension and chassis improvements made for an experience that left me grinning from ear to ear, in spite of rarely being able to put my foot down. So, no, it's not just for bragging rights. For some of us, at least.

[@wakeywarrior]

240 miles is less than I’d have got out of my 2022 RWD LFP. I get nearly that in -2 degrees. Of course not the same performance but it is fast enough. Sorry but this car is vastly overpriced in the UK.

[@nickolassnielsen]

Put 20" rims and 275 wide tires on yours and see what happens to the range.. = - 20%

[@BlazeFirereign]

It is, quite obviously, not the car for you if you're happy with the performance and handling characteristics of the RWD. It's a bit like contemplating and complaining that a BMW M3 is too expensive, when a 320i is half the price and fast enough for your needs.

[@dazzassti]

I'm getting 5.2mpkw in my new LR, will happy with that, 1523 miles in it's first month has cost me £23 :-)

[@joennick1]

No indicator stalks. No thank you.

[@raymonddsouza8948]

There are now aftermaket stalks available

[@joennick1]

@@raymonddsouza8948 great. Pay thousands for car and have to pay extra for something that should be standard and safer.

[@sargfowler9603]

Not for me, sorry

[@karlhulme8014]

Traffic, rain, driving fast and passengers in the car. Strange how none of these things need to be considered or worried about in my diesel.

[@raymonddsouza8948]

Everyone driving an ICE car has been spoilt by the remarkably energy-dense nature of fossil fuels (including me), which masks just how much of that energy your car's engine wastes as heat (not to mention that petrol/diesel engines have benefitted from over 100 years of development and infrastructure construction vs a tenth of that with EVs). Because a battery is nowhere near as energy-dense as the fossil fuel in your tank (but EV motors are very efficient with what they do store), they are much more sensitive to conditions that affect their range. ICE cars suffer from range loss in the same conditions as EVs (but again the energy density of the fuel covers all those issues so the reduction in range is much less). However, by their nature, fossil fuels are not an infinite resource (not to mention pollution, CO2, climate change, etc.) and EVs are only inferior in that one regard (energy storage density), they are superior in almost every other measure. Just an explanation as to why your experience is what it is.

[@jolive3743]

don't suppose you consider Ella Kissi-Debrah either