Great video. I do something like this with my beginner students. I have them imagine the paddle face has Velcro. I toss the ball and they catch the ball on out in front and thigh high. Then the next progression I toss they catch and push the ball forward.
@suelee125310 ай бұрын
I’m a beginner and I’m learning a lot from you thank you so much! I’m working as hard as I can to get better so people will want to play with me ha ha!
@johncincolapickleball10 ай бұрын
keep it up
@stevenjanoff8496 Жыл бұрын
This concept is amazing! As a 2 week player with one actual lesson from a ‘teacher’ I find this and your ‘clock’ footwork drill tossing the ball to the wall to be mandatory concepts. I didn’t get it from my guy. I guess I have to help him.
@richhume67172 жыл бұрын
It always seemed to me that the pros put the paddle into the proper position and then there was a small "hit" to move the ball back over the net. Your description of this as a catch and then follow through is a nice concept. I like the drill of just positioning the paddle. There is a lot of useful ideas here for the full shot as well. You've done good work with your other videos too. Thanks.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich, I appreciate the feedback. I personally know when I switched to this kisser I saw my game improve a lot.
@garymyers10342 жыл бұрын
Excellent information thank you
@sylviedube187 Жыл бұрын
Merci!
@marionsigurdson13922 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Please continue with more videos with step by step instructions on techniques for specific shots. I love how you teach! 😊
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marion, I appreciate that! I certainly will keep them coming 👍
@colinsmith12332 жыл бұрын
Great visual and explanation of the mechanics of this stroke
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin 👍
@nickramirez5670 Жыл бұрын
I love the drills you are preforming. They remind me of my baseball drills as a shortstop through my years. Thank you!
@genekochert94432 жыл бұрын
What a great way to articulate and demonstrate the concept of “catching “ the ball. To me the best part of the instruction was using the net to catch the ball. The student naturally learns to extend their arm a bit and work out in front of them. I think building this technique into the instruction of a beginner will pay dividends throughout their development. Way to go, butterfly net on order!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% make sure to look out for the next two parts of this series because I’m gonna discuss exactly how to build on this concept.
@neilmm Жыл бұрын
another great vid, really love the pro play with analysis narration too, please do more of those
@TamiVroma1 Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from you videos in past 48 hours! Going back to the bounce serve now so I can start building on it and now this video. The concept of catching helps so much especially for someone who has no racquet/paddle back ground at all!
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
yes that is great! tennis/ ping pong background helps but definitely not required at all!
@marielandry89292 жыл бұрын
Clear progression. Thank you
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marie 😊
@amykocee57072 жыл бұрын
Wowza, this is good stuff. Coming from a tennis background and struggling with control in Pickleball, your mindset tweaks are just what I needed,
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear this is helping out Amy!
@jamesmoore7407 Жыл бұрын
I teach this concept all the time, never thought of the net... great idea, I will credit you when i use it...
@chongqinghotpot2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It applies to reset/volley too.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for sure. I feel like I use this concept as a basis for every shot I hit.
@TheMegansdad Жыл бұрын
Great info!
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gabecudd70632 жыл бұрын
Great concept and instruction!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gabe 👍
@usapatriot5078 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for posting.
@NickLeggett5 ай бұрын
This is a game changer for me, thank you! Your videos are the best out there.
@johncincolapickleball5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@fkporsche1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice
@billkennedy4012 жыл бұрын
interesting concept - looking forward to the next video
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!!
@boblew808 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
thank you for the suppor!!
@supermochithedog6896 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Way to pinpoint the problem!! Awesome vid!!!
@jokieser59883 ай бұрын
Love this advice...
@hazelvoice61252 жыл бұрын
In the beginning I thought we were going to discuss the angle of the paddle face when coming in contact with the ball! Glad I stuck around. Thanks for the informative video.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s one of the things that gets a lot of the blame for pop ups. An open paddle face isn’t bad if your hitting the ball with the correct power level.
@mikebarron36432 жыл бұрын
Love it and I’m a 4.5 and you reminded me that this is such a powerful tip!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, deformed important at any level. Sometimes it helps to just get back to basics.
@ginnyk8912 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation and demonstration
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much 🙂
@tch432 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing clear, simple instructions. Tons of great info in only 7 minutes
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd, I appreciate it 👍
@romanhernz92092 жыл бұрын
Wow 😮 simple great idea 💡 to fix bad habits great video thanks so much I’ll try it.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roman, sometimes simple is the best!
@scottpriske67932 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Really enjoying it. I'm new to pickleball from tennis and found this video really helpful. Thanks. Look forward to seeing more from you.
@ericgould43022 жыл бұрын
A great "aha" moment. Also glad you showed the machine -- I don't get a steady drill partner. This drill is easy to repeat and I should be able to diagnose the good from bad. Thanks.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, simple concept but will make a big difference with some practice!
@kimleith13782 жыл бұрын
I switched to a ping pong grip 3 yrs ago.Works great for my control at the net.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hear you. I started that way for control. I needed more pop for my singles game so moved away from it. Works great though
@cindysayavong85132 жыл бұрын
Love it . Keep it coming! 🙏
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cindy, I will!
@doc-bj4bj2 жыл бұрын
Wow John, awesome video. I think this video should be a must watch for any pickler. I have watched hundreds of KZbin videos about dinking, especially backhand cross court dink. This helped so much the first time I played after watching. The big concepts here: catch/throw and acceleration/swing length. I think this will increase my level 0.5 to 1.0 higher.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad it helped. I really do believe that this concept is one of those foundational things that you can build your game on
@PickleballWill2 жыл бұрын
The best concept out there in pickleball and even tennis
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I agree. This is a big one! I used to teach a similar concept in tennis that I called the 20/80 rule. 20% backswing 80% follow through
@PickleballWill2 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball loving the concepts! These ideas are what help players grow and add to their game. Keep up the great work John!
@MD-hk8xq2 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the next videos. Great information and presentation!!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m going to continue working hard to put out valuable content
@tawmack Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CaptainRonAhoy Жыл бұрын
Great lesson! Really learned a lot from that one John.......
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@jorgevelasquez9955 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@annettee1605 Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Where is the third pause video? Can’t seem to find it. It would be great if you could consider adding links to related videos in your descriptions. Love your videos! Thanks!!
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Hey Annette, if you go to my channel I have them organized in playlists. That is a good idea to add video series links below though. I’ll do that 👍
@annettee1605 Жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball I looked there? I only see 6 playlists … but didn’t see the pause series. I finally found it btw. Great stuff! You are my fav PB coach on KZbin. Thanks for your content.
@kevincafaro8846 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your knowledge. what i have been trying to improve is a more offensive dink. my dinks are too attackable. soft over the net. could you cover advance drills for offensive dinking. thanks.
@lynnelucas1682 жыл бұрын
You are the best! What a concept. I’ll see how it effects my game tonight. How best can we drill this lesson? Net? Wall? Partner?
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lynne, I appreciate that. Any of those work. Usually as a progression you wanna practice the simplest versions first and then add more difficulty to the situation.
@freedomgirl744 Жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@pband-joy2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been working on my soft game for a while now. This is the best explanation I’ve found and I’ve watched a ton of KZbin videos. Thanks so much!!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joy, I really appreciate it. So glad to hear it’s helping you out!
@lancearchambault35542 жыл бұрын
Bonne idée!
@jenniferthompson7612 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great explanation! It makes sense to “catch” the ball before contact to better control it. I need help with a proper return/drive. Friends tell me my back stroke is too big. Would love to see your form. Thanks!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I’ll do a video on that at some point. In general just take a mindset that you’re going to take less backswing. Practice getting power on your drive while feeling like there’s no backswing.
@jenniferthompson7612 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball so focus more on accelerating as I hit the ball? I'll be looking for a video. Thanks for your tips!
@SDPBALLCOACH2 жыл бұрын
Not bad.... I'm a fan of the bug net... I'm going to try n work it into my lessons.. Good job.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks, your comment is “not bad” as well 👍
@SDPBALLCOACH2 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball I was able to find the "velcro" style Flat disc's n ball that straps to your hand. It's really great and cheap. Good alternative to the net. Take care.
@galaxy_mosaic3587 Жыл бұрын
the part 2 of this video got suggested to me by YT. but I'm trying to start here first. one interesting observation is that I was watching JW's dinking technique a lot (today and in general). when he makes first contact with the dink, he looks like he is cradling the ball. and then (this is kind of more of a finesse thing I think) he may slightly adjust his paddle face angle to redirect the ball as he pushes it back (I guess this is the toss part of this drill/concept). I feel like force wise, he is slightly absorbing force on initial dink contact and then mainly just redirecting the ball to his target
@gg801082 жыл бұрын
Got a video on how to take the power off? I never pop up a soft ball! I got the 3 grip pressure! Especially forehands. Backhands seem easier to take power off, natural slice?
@petemanning30122 жыл бұрын
Really great way of looking at this. Great explanation and video. I’ll be sharing with my group tonight.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete!!
@kylebutz20032 жыл бұрын
The idea of teaching people a longer follow through or more acceleration as a way to hit the ball farther is interesting. The key to hitting consistently is accelerating through the ball. Controlling the length of the take back adjusts for the distance of shot as it provides the physical distance to accelerate. The acceleration and follow through should flow naturally to maintain balance and control. Golf is an excellent analogy for take back controls distance and acceleration is the same concept - especially chipping and putting. Most beginners struggle with getting their body in position early, overly long take backs, and inconsistent acceleration through the ball. The result of all 3 elements cause inconsistent shots. The throwing drill is great as it teaches the natural acceleration and release. It will be the same motion for beginner to use to hit with - where they release the ball throwing underhand is where they want to make contact.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle! I agree 💯
@austindinofrio28292 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video. This is exactly what I teach my students. I usually have them try to catch the ball on the paddle, but I will definitely be purchasing a small net as the angle will be more realistic than completely under the ball. One other thing I've done is completely eliminated the term "swing" and I use the words "catch and lift" instead. Great stuff.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Austin, I like it. I’ve tried all different versions of trying to get the catch and throw concept across. It’s good to try them all.
@marshall44802 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and explanation of the technique John. Looking forward to the videos that will follow up on it. Thanks!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marshall, I’ve been busy with tournaments. Will be working on the next video very soon 👍
@mbarrettelaw2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found you. I feel like I am receiving Pickleball lessons from Mr. Miyagi. Wax on, wax off; paint fence; catch bouncing ball in net. Simple, instinctual movements that seem so simple, yet most relevant and important. I don’t feel compelled to usually comment, but you are relating to me in ways that make me wonder where you have been along my pickleball journey. Keep ‘em coming!!! Cannot wait to try this with my ball machine tomorrow!!!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Haha, Thanks Michael. I haven’t been called that called that yet but I love the reference! I’m glad to hear that it helped 👍
@dennismassey19402 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis!
@marykennedy5372 Жыл бұрын
So simple yet such a brilliant analogy.
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mary! I appreciate it
@superion812 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is that a preset drill at the end of your video or is that a custom setting. I just got a spim shot
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
probably custom, I've tweaked all of the drills on there app a little bit. I'll be doing a video soon of some ball machine drills I like to do and the settings for them 👍
@superion812 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball nice. Thanks for the reply
@superion812 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball just got your new paddle. Love it
@mediumdun18 Жыл бұрын
Still working out the kinks and this is very helpful. Is your laid back wrist purposeful or is that the result of a softer grip? I'm finding that helps me
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it helped. Yes the paid back wrist is purposeful. It helps to create more of a locked wrist position.
@gerrydertinger7447 Жыл бұрын
Found myself thinking concept looks fine when speed of incoming ball is mild as shown. When bangers firing shots at you, the control needed is often how to manage the absorption level is it not?
@lesterma16082 жыл бұрын
Good job on this tip!
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mmommo102 жыл бұрын
this was helpful thanks
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
You bet! Thanks Carly
@robertcuomo70842 жыл бұрын
I was inadvertently doing this returning serves. So much more control with my shots doing this even though iI basically was accidentally doing what is described here. I cannot wait to try dumping shots into the kitchen during play when the opportunity exists. I am always hitting it too far past the kitchen.
@paulmcdevitt20382 жыл бұрын
Going to send this video to people I play with as it explains this better than I have seen so far. Although one thing that this doesn’t discuss is that many pop up because they are trying to return a ball with more power than the gentler drops here. So they also need to soften their grip, to reduce the power the ball has when returning
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I appreciate you sharing it. This is definitely a topic that I’ve seen some people have a misunderstanding of. Hopefully this will help to clarify things.
@longtimelo2 жыл бұрын
Balls never come at me that slow though. How do you handle speed/power?
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
You have to master a concept slow before you can do it fast. It’s certainly harder on a faster ball but the same concept still applies. The more quiet and neutral your paddle is right before contact the better chance you have to control the ball at any speed
@johndavison90062 жыл бұрын
Is that butterfly net USAP approved??
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
No, but there’s no testing so it doesn’t matter 😉
@jesnatic1296 Жыл бұрын
How do I easily find the next video that applies to this one?
@johncincolapickleball Жыл бұрын
If you go to my Channel I have the videos sorted in playlists. I'll also add links in the description box though. Thanks
@marksmindset762 жыл бұрын
Do you love that ball machine? I’m in the market for one and I’ve looked into that one. Also if you have an affiliate link or website for me to purchase one, lmk. Thanks
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really do like it. I’ve tried pretty much all of them and this one is my favorite. Here is my link that will get you free shipping. spinshotsports.com/discount/john
@mikefixac2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and it made sense, then I watched your video where you're playing doubles against Zane, and I don't see anything of what you're saying here. It looks to me like everyone is winding up, hitting the ball and the racket is moving forward before coming into the ball. I don't see hardly any catches. Today I tried to implement the catch and push the ball off my racket with my serves, and it was really weak.
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
Hey Micheal, a couple things. First this idea is mostly for soft game shots. You’re going to see a little more swinging when the ball is hit hard which is what you end up seeing in a lot of our highlight points. Also, this was a an idea and when practicing it is definitely an exaggeration. The main concept is to have control of your paddle before you strike the main. Pros have pretty good paddle control already so you’re not going to see this concept as exaggerated as I was shogun it the video. You will however still see it when we are dinking. Hope that helps.
@mikefixac2 жыл бұрын
@@johncincolapickleball John, thank you for the thoughtful reply. That certainly clears things up for me. I must say, the video of yours where you discuss getting set before hitting the ball has helped me a lot. Easy to see it at just the 2 different levels I play against.
@brianrutherford23792 күн бұрын
I wish I could have watched this video 6 years ago. I use to much power at times and thus pop up the ball.
@lemontree40972 жыл бұрын
You should make a video on how to play the right side or how to hit a forehand dink
@johncincolapickleball2 жыл бұрын
I’ll work on that 👍 still figuring it out myself 😉
@neilmm Жыл бұрын
What I struggle most with as a new player progressing quickly due to prior racquetball and badminton experience is: Some dinks / drop shots where I feel I apply the same or similar power based in stroke size and speed result in significantly different levels of pop because of how much speed or spin the ball has on it. I also have had a hard time with volley dinking and blocking since the ball has more power before the bounce and it feels like it sometimes pushes and moves the paddle too much and messes up accuracy, maybe I need to grip more tightly on volley dinks and blocks to add more stability? Quick blocks are also less likely to be in perfect sweet spot since they are fast reactions.
@mariolombardi4766 Жыл бұрын
Love the video, but the music is distracting, I don’t think it’s needed.