New York 2030 : A New Generation of Massive Skyscrapers is on the Way

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@BlueFluGaming
@BlueFluGaming 11 ай бұрын
Man, I really wish that those designers would include more art-deco in their designs. Some of the most iconic (and imo best looking) NYC skyscrapers follow the art-deco design language, and I personally think that with today's technology, we could build absolutely STUNNING art-deco towers.
@pyranomics7229
@pyranomics7229 10 ай бұрын
I agree with you. That said, the new JP Morgan Chase building screams Art Deco and I'm here for it.
@EchelonIV
@EchelonIV 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Art Deco is one of NYC most defining styles. At least DeKalb in Brooklyn is kind of a homage to that style. The facade looks really cool. Can't wait to see it in person. Personally I would love to see supertalls in the style of the Empire State and Chrysler Buildings but with a clean, new art deco facade of gold or black.
@ilarivaisanen
@ilarivaisanen 10 ай бұрын
They look old. We need modern skyscrapers. I love the thin ones in billionaires row
@EchelonIV
@EchelonIV 10 ай бұрын
@@ilarivaisanen The thin ones are awesome, but neo-art deco style supertalls (higher than Empire State) would be awesome and classy at the same time and not necessarily old-stylish. Off topic: oisivat voineet tehdä kalasataman torneista vähän jännemmän näkösiä. :D
@justinreilly1
@justinreilly1 10 ай бұрын
Agreed! I love the look of all the new buildings in the last 15 years on the east side built in the pre war style- sometimes just copying and sometimes pushing the boundaries out but not cartoonishly like post-modernism did; as if the the pre war period never ended and just kept improving.
@_SurferGeek_
@_SurferGeek_ 11 ай бұрын
Where are they going to get all the office workers to fill the office spaces in these buildings? There's already an abundance of partially empty office buildings. Edit - April 2nd, 2024 - Manhattan has hit an all-time high vacancy rate of, depending on the source 19.8% to 22.8%. This isn't getting any better and with the influx of migrants... is likely to get worse! Edit - October 7th, 2024 - Now the Chrysler Building is at risk for failure to pay their rent due to a lack of occupied office spaces. Commercial realty in Manhattan is collapsing. Delinquency rate: The delinquency rate for Manhattan office buildings increased from 0.57% in January 2023 to 6.28% in January 2024.
@kaiser234
@kaiser234 11 ай бұрын
they didnt think that far, they just want to strike construction deals to make themselves feel accomplished :D, profits over sense
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 11 ай бұрын
Right, I feel like these buildings were planned pre-COVID and now a lot of the projects are reconsidering haha
@SamMcKinley
@SamMcKinley 11 ай бұрын
I agree. I work on the train and white collar workers only work from Tuesday to Thursday. More tourists downtown than workers
@jst4572
@jst4572 11 ай бұрын
I hear you but maybe their thought is that if you create new office space, in uniquely designed building with different layouts and more amenities, you’ll create an environment that people actually don’t mind getting out of the bed and tolerating traffic and public transportation to get to.
@_SurferGeek_
@_SurferGeek_ 11 ай бұрын
@@jst4572 - No disrespect intended but that's totally irrelevant. For most folks, no matter how "sweet" the facility, most will choose to work from home if possible. Look at the amazing facilities and benefits that Google and Apple offer their employees and yet most piss and moan about having to come back to the office.
@zinedinezethro9157
@zinedinezethro9157 11 ай бұрын
Although it is sad that the monuments of the past are getting overshadowed, but in my opinion it actually embodies New York. New York was, is, and will always be an ever-changing city. It's the place where one came, built an empire, and push another generation of empires to rise even taller. The Empire State Building and Chrysler buildings were and will always be one of the main identities of New York, that's why they can't be and shouldn't be demolished. They should stand and last until the day New York die. But their existence shouldn't slow New York. Just like how countless companies rise and fall in New York, perhaps it's time for the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building to be overshadowed. Just like how the St.Patrick's Cathedral's spires were once a major landmark in the New York Skyline, now it's not even noticable. YET, it doesn't diminish it's importance and it's impact on New York. Change will always happen whether we like it or not, as long as New York continues to be a global powerhouse, it's not a matter of If the two iconic giants will be overshadowed, it's always been a matter of when. Maybe, just maybe, this decade is that time.
@NateCrail
@NateCrail 11 ай бұрын
^ THIS.
@circleinforthecube5170
@circleinforthecube5170 11 ай бұрын
the big problem with 2010s and 2020s era architecture is its doing to 1950s-1980s era buildings what those buildings did to previous eras of architecture with the mass demolition, while we may not consider modern buildings of equal importance now it is inevitable that architectural taste will grow fonder on them, the rectangles of the 50s and 60s receive much less hatred and disdain then they had in the 2000s, and the importance of significant modern buildings will shoot up, also structurally many 2020s era buildings are weaker than their older counterparts. compare a tract home in the 90s and a tract home today, significant architectural build quality decline in only what, 30 years? in 30/40 years these 2010s/2020s neo-modernist towers will start to be considered "dated, boring, ugly architecture" just like what we consider modernism now and just how they felt about traditional styles in the 50s, architectural taste is a big cycle even if 1950s-1970s architecture isint loved yet, it still deserves historic preservation, it also depends on area, Chicago cares much more about their modern architecture than new york, the city is identified with mies van de rohe styled modern architecture more than its older ornamented buildings, although they still receive a spotlight its nowhere as big as the second chicago wave's publicity
@thebabbler8867
@thebabbler8867 11 ай бұрын
Nah; you're either a bot or drinking the Kool-Aid. New York is more pathetic now than ever before, the city is dying because of skyscrapers, yet they keep building them as a desperate cry for attention and nothing else. The streets are empty, people are leaving, and the quality of life continues to plummet; yet they build these ugly unnecessary reprobate-architecture monstrosities that will remain unoccupied forever; it seems these clowns didn't learn from the demented fiasco of Hudson Yards.
@ddrse
@ddrse 11 ай бұрын
Cities are as relevant as old computer boards. I would get out.
@Ray03595
@Ray03595 11 ай бұрын
Yes, but at least build something nice to look at. The Commodore building looks bulky and terrible in its design and would be an eyesore on the skyline. It needs to be scaled down. The way it looks now it'll unbalance midtown.
@TheAdekrijger
@TheAdekrijger 11 ай бұрын
The commodore tower looks good and the new morgan chase building looks better than the old one. The other towers are eyesores.
@jondobson
@jondobson 8 ай бұрын
15 penn place looks pretty nice to me tbh…weird but nice looking…
@VidaBlue317
@VidaBlue317 8 ай бұрын
​@@jondobson It's not that it looks bad, it just seems a shame to tear down an historic hotel to put it there. It's all about location - if there's no room in Manhattan, what's the problem with putting some of these towers in Brooklyn?
@MarkusBuck-pb7zn
@MarkusBuck-pb7zn 5 ай бұрын
The Commodore is far too massive in my opinion. Interestingly, the bases and entrances seem to be the new attractions for tourists. It used to be about going to the upper decks, now it's more about the inside and outside areas. That's clever very nice. It's a new experience of proportion and scale as Google Earth has given us all the bird-like views for granted. There are also a lot more commercial opportunities in the bases than on the top decks. None of this is a coincidence.
@jery214
@jery214 5 ай бұрын
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@stephen5276
@stephen5276 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Commodore Tower. It's elegant, blends in beautifully with the surroundings, and contrary to what the narrator suggested I find it doesn't detract at all from any surrounding historical buildings but rather compliments them. I hope that some of the building is dedicated to residential use not just office use since more people can work from home now.
@circleinforthecube5170
@circleinforthecube5170 11 ай бұрын
yeah but most 1990s skyscrapers also take wedding cake formations with callback elements, also what do you mean by historical building, history doesen't end at the invention of modern architecture and within 30 years modern architecture is entering the preservation sphere
@ddrse
@ddrse 11 ай бұрын
​@@circleinforthecube5170can't wait for jewelry inspired architecture
@stevepierre3120
@stevepierre3120 11 ай бұрын
Affirmation tower is the worst in my opinion...i hope the architect change the design to something elegant.
@iamsaw8s
@iamsaw8s 11 ай бұрын
@@stevepierre3120It’s shaped like Vermont 😭
@LOLWAAHH
@LOLWAAHH 11 ай бұрын
It’s cool, but its location could not be any worse.
@linesided
@linesided 11 ай бұрын
JP Morgan building a 40M$ park is like you and me planting a blade of grass.
@elscruffomcscruffy8371
@elscruffomcscruffy8371 11 ай бұрын
Improve people's lives: they're a bank! They don't care about people
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
$40M park plaza -- its not backwards day.
@henrygumo6955
@henrygumo6955 9 ай бұрын
JP morgan chase pays 40m every year for money laundering billions. they are basically a govt bank now, if you were wondering who controls biden, its the biggest bank in the world, and jamie demon
@stevemitchellhomes8249
@stevemitchellhomes8249 7 ай бұрын
I agree. It will also get inevitably overrun with addicts and aliens. These 'community contributions' are a scam dreamed up by idiots at planning offices.
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco 6 ай бұрын
Yea (for the sake of argument overlooking the nonsense of that comparison), but the diference is that they did it but you don't.
@beedoggs
@beedoggs 11 ай бұрын
i think we're seeing more and more developers embrace art-deco back into their designs, it's better for the skyline that way
@thedukeofchutney468
@thedukeofchutney468 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Modernism is a cancer.
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn 11 ай бұрын
if only
@nestor-martinez
@nestor-martinez 11 ай бұрын
I walk by 270 Park every time I go into the office. Been so cool watching it go up over the last year!
@jst4572
@jst4572 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with those who have this idea that the 175 Park Ave diminishes the presence of the Chrysler Building or will make us appreciate it any less. It’s really a good juxtaposition to show and highlight how NYC’s architectural direction is always changing decade by decade. And that’s a good thing. It’s history on full display.
@Ntyler01mil
@Ntyler01mil 11 ай бұрын
Change simply for the sake of change is not an inherently good thing. That's like saying that building a brutalist skyscraper behind to St. Peter's Basilica is good because it shows how things change over time. Or imagine overshadowing the Eiffel Tower with an adjacent skyscraper. No one would view those as good.
@kennj321
@kennj321 11 ай бұрын
I think view of Chrysler Bldg has already take a hit from the new Vanderbilt Bldg 2 bocks away. Views of Chrysler used to be great on 42st st. This building will finish it off
@tastyorange
@tastyorange 10 ай бұрын
@@Ntyler01mil and his comment got 75 likes... sheesh, maybe they don't live here.
@blushdog
@blushdog 10 ай бұрын
​@@Ntyler01mil Its not the same thing, of course you wouldn't build a skyscraper next to the Eiffel tower or a cathedral but in New York a skyscraper next to an older skyscraper is different and you can already see it all over the city with buildings from the 1800s 1920s 60s 80s and 2000s all comingling with each other.
@sw5114
@sw5114 8 ай бұрын
@@kennj321Have to agree, in part. Vanderbilt compliments both ESB and Chrysler and is respectfully a distance. Commodore will overshadow both Chrysler and Vanderbilt!
@AleksLazar
@AleksLazar 11 ай бұрын
That Singer tower was sure a sad loss
@AudibleComprise
@AudibleComprise 8 ай бұрын
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@Mohamd8y
@Mohamd8y 6 ай бұрын
The lengths of the tower in the world in Dubai are 200 floors and more towers have 140 floors and hotels as well as 160 floors, all of their towers are the same as China, why is there a long tower in America, the use of hotels, offices and restaurants
@loremasteringwion9930
@loremasteringwion9930 6 ай бұрын
Looks like a third world country compared to China. No western city can even compare to Chinese cities
@jery214
@jery214 5 ай бұрын
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@dennischiapello7243
@dennischiapello7243 5 ай бұрын
IMO, yes and no. I find it ugly: over embellished in an ungraceful way. That Belle Epoque style was of its time, but it just didn't translate well to tall buildings. Eventually, skyscrapers developed a more understated decoration, such as you see in Louis Sullivan's work. Art Deco was a great combination of effusiveness and sleekness--perfectly suited to the skyscraper.
@NikhilAngadBakshi
@NikhilAngadBakshi 11 ай бұрын
Given that so much office space is lying vacant in NYC even now, does it make sense that all 5 of these buildings seemed only to be for commercial use?
@ddrse
@ddrse 11 ай бұрын
Manhattan is as relevant as an old computer board. All they know how to do is build. If they stopped it would cause a panic
@bellabell737
@bellabell737 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! Coffin apartments
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
New class A office space sells out extremely well.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
pssst -- except for chase all are mixed uses.
@leomarkaable1
@leomarkaable1 9 ай бұрын
I think the loss of classy storied hotels is a huge loss. Seems that the titans of industry want people to work in NYC and then go away.
@nickfromm5315
@nickfromm5315 10 ай бұрын
Loving the modern gothic-inspired art deco style. We need more art deco, especially New York. most beautiful buildings, even prettier than the gilded styles. more up shining lights please
@SeraphimHanischMusic
@SeraphimHanischMusic 11 ай бұрын
I would be terrified to be in or anywhere near the Affirmation Tower - that design looks inherently unstable, even with today's amazing materials. I wouldn't do it.
@brianthomas5260
@brianthomas5260 10 ай бұрын
I agree. You'll never find me in that design. You might even investigate the motivation for that design possibly being an intentional future terrorist attack.
@SeraphimHanischMusic
@SeraphimHanischMusic 10 ай бұрын
I discovered that there are actually smaller versions of this structure already built in Downtown Queens along the East River. Go in Google Earth and have a look. But still, a 300 meter tower like this is structurally unstable, aesthetically disturbing and not something I would want to see anywhere.
@lorenzotual7109
@lorenzotual7109 10 ай бұрын
@@brianthomas5260 what the fuck are you talking about ?
@chrisulate3843
@chrisulate3843 10 ай бұрын
And it's ugly too
@Biker65
@Biker65 10 ай бұрын
It will never get built. Someone is getting votes just by entertaining that idea.
@Helios-Rex
@Helios-Rex 11 ай бұрын
I love what NYC is becoming. I know many people don’t like older grand art deco buildings getting covered up by new modern supergallo, but I think it just adds another dimension to the city, and shows its growth through history. The idea of a future Manhattan island covered in super and mega tall skyscrapers, with historic art deco/20th century gems hidden between seems incredible to me.
@circleinforthecube5170
@circleinforthecube5170 11 ай бұрын
what do you mean by historic preservation, whenever someone says that they usually only ever include ornamental buildings despite modern architecture being less than 20 years away from being legally historic, although its understandable why new yorks modernism is forgotten as the most impressive and beautiful 20th century modern buildings in NYC suffered a fate we all remember, although stuff like the seagram and the postmodern skyscrapers of new york deserve preservation aswell
@white_genocide2050
@white_genocide2050 11 ай бұрын
Do you know NYC is sinking because of the skycrapers?!?!
@nachoskyful
@nachoskyful 11 ай бұрын
​@@circleinforthecube5170the twin towers were actually very ugly, very rigid and very obnoxious. They selfishly claimed so much of the NYC skyline's character without really adding much beauty to it.
@themetroidprime
@themetroidprime 11 ай бұрын
Layers of History
@jeanpaul4100
@jeanpaul4100 11 ай бұрын
Homeless encampment everywhere, crime and destitution is the future of NY. Your either ignorant or in denial.
@tomb8112
@tomb8112 11 ай бұрын
It's great that NY is growing and people still want to live and work there. But the Chrysler and Empire State are iconic landmarks. They'll be more new builds besides the ones in this video in the future. I hope it doesn't get to the point where you can't even see them.
@dankelly5150
@dankelly5150 10 ай бұрын
Some of these new builds are butt ugly !! 🤮
@tastyorange
@tastyorange 10 ай бұрын
You cannot see the Chrysler Building anymore from the LIE. The Vanderbilt Tower is right behind it, so they just blend together. Manhattan skyline is just a mess now.
@tomb8112
@tomb8112 10 ай бұрын
@@dankelly5150 I agree. It used to be architects designed buildings to compliment the city and skyline. The new skinny supertalls were designed with only one thing in mind, to give maximum returns in profit.
@Charliedavis14744
@Charliedavis14744 6 ай бұрын
When are they going to use that money on its infrastructure instead of building skyscrapers that nobody asked for?
@crs2385
@crs2385 2 ай бұрын
People want to live and work there? Residents and workers are leaving. New York City, once the greatest city in the US, has become an unaffordable crime ridden hell hole.
@thebeardedseeker5633
@thebeardedseeker5633 10 ай бұрын
Spider-Man is really looking forward to all the new skyscrapers. 🕸
@themetroidprime
@themetroidprime 11 ай бұрын
As far as massive towers go, the JP Morgan and Commodore towers are very good looking. Penn Plaza, however, is an utter eyesore.
@JulesSch1
@JulesSch1 7 ай бұрын
Commodore tower looks cool and very New York, however location needs to be changed as too close to the iconic Chrysler building which is perhaps New York's most famous landmark along with the empire state building.
@martincito1662
@martincito1662 11 ай бұрын
The Commodore Tower is the prettiest of all 😍. It’s a combination of elegance and modernism but it’s location is a problem
@Gigi-xr3qs
@Gigi-xr3qs 9 ай бұрын
What is the problem with its location? Manhattan not a good place for skyscrapers?
@martincito1662
@martincito1662 9 ай бұрын
@@Gigi-xr3qs It eclipses the iconic Chrysler Building. Did you watch the video??
@Gigi-xr3qs
@Gigi-xr3qs 9 ай бұрын
@@martincito1662 Yeah, and I disagree. The Chrysler building is still visible from most angles. It's a city, not a museum.
@martincito1662
@martincito1662 9 ай бұрын
@@Gigi-xr3qs Not the opinion of most people
@Gigi-xr3qs
@Gigi-xr3qs 9 ай бұрын
@@martincito1662 Not YOUR opinion, so you assume it's most people., Haven't seen a public poll on this.. nor have you.
@rnsone8827
@rnsone8827 11 ай бұрын
2:32 WTC 1 at 1,368’ was the tallest skyscraper demolished. The Union Carbide building was the tallest skyscraper ever purposely demolished.
@EdKiD167
@EdKiD167 11 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing when he said this lol
@ciel222
@ciel222 10 ай бұрын
New York city will always be the king of skyscrapers 💪
@gabrielzachary9704
@gabrielzachary9704 9 ай бұрын
????? travelled much???? dwarfed by Hong Kong
@ehaddad6
@ehaddad6 8 ай бұрын
​@@gabrielzachary9704 true in amount of buildings over 150 meters however NYC has almost 3x as many 300 meter or taller buildings than Hong Kong and Dubai has even more.
@gabrielzachary9704
@gabrielzachary9704 8 ай бұрын
in terms of what the criteria of a sky scraper is, HK is King. Period. Manhattan has cultural appeal driven by films of the last 50 years, no doubt the most influential city on earth of the 20th century @@ehaddad6
@Charliedavis14744
@Charliedavis14744 6 ай бұрын
Shanghai:
@DEVASTATOR478
@DEVASTATOR478 4 ай бұрын
Shanghai Is more powerful
@calvinunroe2312
@calvinunroe2312 11 ай бұрын
Literally the ONLY thing I dislike about Affirmation tower is it's top heavy. I think the height is FANTASTIC, but a building as tall as that should NOT be visually top-heavy. It just looks off. I think if the architects just literally inverted the building it would be one of the best the city could have to offer and it's a great location.
@danielmisgana2672
@danielmisgana2672 11 ай бұрын
I agree. Personally I think it's hideous in its top heaviness, but without the top heaviness it would look generic. I hope they dont go with that design.
@stevepierre3120
@stevepierre3120 11 ай бұрын
Yup that tower is ugly and sore to the eyes...i hope they change the design.
@alvarojneto
@alvarojneto 11 ай бұрын
This reads like the one thing you dislike about the Affirmation Tower is its central theme. It implies you dislike the project altogether.
@u.google
@u.google 11 ай бұрын
i think its an illusion when you look above it it looks like its gonna fall
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 11 ай бұрын
I hate the affirmation tower and I hope it doesn’t get built
@EchelonIV
@EchelonIV 10 ай бұрын
While all these modern towers are super cool, the Singer building is simply stunning. I wish I got to see it in person.
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 11 ай бұрын
These buildings will provide a vast amount of space for all the robots who will be able to work in them.
@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520
@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 4 ай бұрын
I hope they are the funny robots from Futurama and not the mankind killing ones from I am legend Robot
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 4 ай бұрын
@@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 The near complete uselessness of human life on the planet is an inescapable conclusion for all forms of AI to come to realize.
@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520
@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 4 ай бұрын
@@thomasjamison2050 oh dang
@janortiz1045
@janortiz1045 Ай бұрын
Hello from Veracruz, Mexico. I have paid attention that every time they talk about New York city, they only show images and videos about Manhattan, but they never ever include the other 4 sections of the city. New York city is more than only Manhattan, It includes Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, Bronx and Staten Island. Thank you.
@astraydhurion7697
@astraydhurion7697 11 ай бұрын
The Commodore is absolutely beautiful in its design. However, it should be less taller and definitely thinner to be more naturally integrated in the skyline.
@danielmisgana2672
@danielmisgana2672 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with making it thinner, but I agree that some aspects of its design are ghastly-- the proportions make it look stubby. They could make the parts where the width changes more ornamental to offset the oddness
@Golfina19
@Golfina19 11 ай бұрын
Agree.. beautiful design but the bulkiness makes it less appealing to the eyes. If it were a bit slimmer, it would look much better. I think.
@martincito1662
@martincito1662 11 ай бұрын
I agree, it should be shorter and thinner Gorgeous design
@majorneptunejr
@majorneptunejr 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe more smaller and less fatter.
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
Highly disagree, If anything it should be taller
@LiveBetterSaveMoney
@LiveBetterSaveMoney 10 ай бұрын
270 Park ave is incredible. The lobby/base is a modern marvel
@RobertodelaVega-t3w
@RobertodelaVega-t3w 6 ай бұрын
It's not for the public unless you work there.
@loremasteringwion9930
@loremasteringwion9930 6 ай бұрын
NY looks like a third world country compared to China. No western city can even compare to Chinese cities
@vangecontos761
@vangecontos761 10 ай бұрын
Commodore is best of the newbies but bad place the Chrysler will always be the best & it’s space should be protected 😢
@jyoutube.
@jyoutube. 11 ай бұрын
Old buildings had soul, ideas and beauty in details. Modern designs look like they were created by a child in Minecraft. The only difference is the moved blocks.
@drock213
@drock213 11 ай бұрын
I'd disagree. A mixture of both is best. A city of a bunch of old buildings and relics and nothing new would be very depressing
@HTtwentyten
@HTtwentyten 11 ай бұрын
If by 'new' you mean intentionally contrarian, anti-Vitruvian, and uncomfortable to human sense-making, then 'new' is an extremely bad idea. Look at the Tower Fifth and its existing cousin 432 Park Avenue and tell me they aren't downright offensive.@@drock213
@danix454
@danix454 11 ай бұрын
I bet you wish you had some actual say in what happens in any capacity. And yet, you don’t. You have no power and no voice nor any visibility. Those with power can make “Minecraft” buildings, and do. Does that piss you off?
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
And you're blind. How about you actually take a close look at the buildings first hmm?
@theilliad4298
@theilliad4298 11 ай бұрын
The last project is going to be so insanely destructive. The buildings that will be destroyed on these blocks are so beautiful and could never be replicated.
@brianthomas5260
@brianthomas5260 10 ай бұрын
Every building ever built has a lifespan. All will come down eventually. Beautiful as they may be on the outside, you can only patch them up so much before it is no longer feasible. Just like a lot of people. Beauty is only skin deep.
@jouaienttoi
@jouaienttoi 10 ай бұрын
@@brianthomas5260 Modern skyscrapers can last for thousands of years with maintenance. I don't disagree that "every building has its time", but that doesn't mean a building can't last forever if we really cared about it.
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
The vast majority of them really aren't.
@theilliad4298
@theilliad4298 10 ай бұрын
@@JackKack-kk5dd there was a complete write up on it and knowing you know nothing and just commenting to bullshit is embarrassing
@tastyorange
@tastyorange 10 ай бұрын
So many interesting smaller structures have been destroyed lately to build this massive crap.
@TrainerCTZ
@TrainerCTZ 10 ай бұрын
"New Jersey Countryside" LMFAO!
@Jmmoffa
@Jmmoffa 4 ай бұрын
You can tell this video was not made by someone that’s know the area well
@patdonnelly9392
@patdonnelly9392 3 ай бұрын
Jersey City.
@Nobody173dbibd
@Nobody173dbibd Ай бұрын
Nah that was Hoboken
@gcanyon3114
@gcanyon3114 Ай бұрын
😂
@bobschaaf2549
@bobschaaf2549 Ай бұрын
@@patdonnelly9392 My home town! A four minute train ride to Manhattan.
@davidnorris1093
@davidnorris1093 11 ай бұрын
Somebody did not get the memo on current office space vacancy in NYC/Manhattan….
@philausa9629
@philausa9629 7 ай бұрын
New York is not like any other place…
@camden_96
@camden_96 4 ай бұрын
​​@@philausa9629 It's a lot similar to London - which has the same issue and is doing the same thing (office vacancy, despite building new office skyscrapers). What is actually happening is: the office vacancy comes from big companies not wanting to purchase space in existing buildings (as the newer buildings are superior, for obvious reasons). Thats why they have the confidence to build these structures, because unlike older buildings that are struggling, the space in these new buildings will sell fast and for big money (because people actually want to work in them). Office vacancy will reduce with the more old 70s/80s/90s buildings that are replaced or refurbished.
@arielguerrero3855
@arielguerrero3855 11 ай бұрын
I really wish architects stuck to the art deco style for new buildings with a modern look to it.
@majorneptunejr
@majorneptunejr 11 ай бұрын
It's that modern look I don't like.
@Me97202
@Me97202 9 ай бұрын
None of these projects will do anything to help average citizens. In fact, they probably make living conditions worse.
@kc2dc444
@kc2dc444 11 ай бұрын
I love the historic towers of NYC, but there is no reason to not build the new ones as well
@TheHelmsD
@TheHelmsD 11 ай бұрын
commodore looks awesome and clean and classy
@ss-.1263
@ss-.1263 11 ай бұрын
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩❤️🇺🇸
@roddymarcellus9739
@roddymarcellus9739 11 ай бұрын
Hello NYC, built whatever you want as long as you don't demolish the Empire State building, and Chrysler building in Midtown.
@drinny26
@drinny26 11 ай бұрын
These towers should all have a spire. They look so cool in the skyline.
@henrysantos121
@henrysantos121 8 ай бұрын
Very nice vids very well done The New generation of NYC, God bless every single person reading this comment, peace and love
@MatejH_entrepreneur
@MatejH_entrepreneur 11 ай бұрын
There will always be haters but I'm loving what the new skyline is becoming and even the stories of business and political challenges some of these new builds have to go through.
@white_genocide2050
@white_genocide2050 11 ай бұрын
Uhhh NYC is skinking because of all the sky scrapers
@senglomein5766
@senglomein5766 11 ай бұрын
and there will always be followers, simple-naive folk who cannot see\dont want to see a different way forward, one with less money laundering and monuments built to launder vast amounts of untaxed wealth....at our expense and manual labor no less
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
@@senglomein5766 "and there will always be followers, simple-naive folk who cannot see\dont want to see a different way forward" It's beautiful how every time someone says this kind of thing, they're almost always just reading of a description of themself. "one with less money laundering and monuments built to launder vast amounts of untaxed wealth" These things are expensive and I don't have any money, therefore money laundering. "at our expense and manual labor no less" These things bring in billions of dollars in tax revenue for NYC just by existing, not to mention building them take thousands of mostly union construction jobs
@UNDERTAKER2621
@UNDERTAKER2621 11 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see these buildings come to life, especially as a midtown resident
@ulrichhille5241
@ulrichhille5241 11 ай бұрын
The Affirmation Tower is simply an abhorrent design. However, because it is associated with the black community, anyone who simply says what is very obvious is labelled a racist. I hope this block never gets built and the black community gets a nice building and not a bad joke.
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
"anyone who simply says what is very obvious is labelled a racist" No, they aren't. Your opinion is not unpopular. You're not victim, shove that shove down your throat.
@ButterfatFarms
@ButterfatFarms 10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the balcony view of the Empire State Building from Penn Tower, likewise the Chrysler Building from the new Commodore Tower!
@trainluvr
@trainluvr 11 ай бұрын
Affirmation Tower is a sick, disorienting joke. Thoroughly insulting.
@cosakita6120
@cosakita6120 11 ай бұрын
Did nobody really think about the name "Penn15" I can see many middle schoolers making jokes about this tower.
@kc10man
@kc10man 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@livinginvancouverbc2247
@livinginvancouverbc2247 11 ай бұрын
That is the best Ai voice I've ever heard. It sounds like John Houseman, the old man who ruled supreme in the original Rollerball (who was a contemporary of Orson Welles in Mercury Theatre). The voice only stumbled on a couple of numbers, other than that, absolutely excellent.
@QthePhysicist
@QthePhysicist 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, i feel this as well. How do you know it's AI?
@livinginvancouverbc2247
@livinginvancouverbc2247 11 ай бұрын
@@QthePhysicist AI sometimes has trouble with numbers. There were at least two building heights spoken incorrectly. I can't find them now but it was like "at a height of one two two meters..."
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
@@livinginvancouverbc2247 yeah several off putting weirdness remarks. the robot nigel voice itself was nice tho.
@keithmailhotte8449
@keithmailhotte8449 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Central Park will never see daylight
@andrerothweiler9191
@andrerothweiler9191 5 ай бұрын
You probably never been in Central park. It's huge
@AfsanaAmerica
@AfsanaAmerica 5 ай бұрын
JP Morgan Chase skyscraper and the Tower Fifth skyscraper look the best. Amazing architecture and design.
@JU5TINPDX
@JU5TINPDX 11 ай бұрын
Tower fifth looks like 432 park ave hit the gym but always skipped leg day... and bought a weird hat...
@johnnygarcia6021
@johnnygarcia6021 11 ай бұрын
Amazing! I love New York ❤
@simonArmenia1
@simonArmenia1 10 ай бұрын
JP-Morgan scraper has that cold and evil estetic to it.
@marcusmartinez7855
@marcusmartinez7855 2 ай бұрын
Great video and nice to see private investment taking an active role in environmental innovation in their building construction. While it does represent a change in look / feel of the NY skyline, it’s a sign of modernization. What will be key is to strategically place the new functional, modern building alongside the rich history that is NY and showcase the over 200+ years of construction and changing architectural styles. We need to evolve and innovate - it’s the only way to advance.
@payamism
@payamism 11 ай бұрын
As a New Yorker, I hate all these proposed buildings.
@larkt6693
@larkt6693 11 ай бұрын
That commodore building is striking ❤
@cocoacrispy7802
@cocoacrispy7802 10 ай бұрын
I love the way every aspect of these buildings crushes the human scale. These are the perfect expression of life in the US today.
@jus10lewissr
@jus10lewissr 7 ай бұрын
Let's just hope they build any new towers in NYC properly as they should, especially without trying to cut costs, so that we don't end up with anything like the Millennium Tower in San Francisco with a current 29" lean/tilt at it's northwest corner due to actively sinking -- or One Seaport there in Manhattan that isn't even almost finished and is already tilting.
@jus10lewissr
@jus10lewissr 7 ай бұрын
I can't remember the particulars but I think MT leans 29" to the west and leans somewhere around a foot or so to the north.
@Ntyler01mil
@Ntyler01mil 11 ай бұрын
None of the towers constructed in the last 50+ years hold a candle to the art deco and beaux-arts skyscrapers of the past, if we're being honest. These proposed towers will crowd and obstruct views of iconic buildings without offering any redeeming architectural qualities, in my opinion.
@circleinforthecube5170
@circleinforthecube5170 11 ай бұрын
except they do, every art deco building in chicago is absolutely overshadowed by their more locally popular 1960s second chicago school brothers, also modern architecture is being treated the way traditional was in the 50s and 60s, disposable tacky buildings, yet this will inevitably change like 1800s architecture lost its negative associations also modern architecture is well over 50 years old, shows your age, its weird how consistently everyone who really really hates modern architecture is supposedly the majority of people yet we keep building nothing but modern and even when we call back its still distinctly modern. also funny how anti-modernism videos on youtube pull only 1.5 to 2 million views on a subject that literally everyone knows about
@Ntyler01mil
@Ntyler01mil 11 ай бұрын
​@@circleinforthecube5170 - Chicago doesn't really have very many art deco skyscrapers, but people still like the older traditional buildings more than the modern ones. People want to see the Board of Trade Building, the Auditorium Building, the Wrigley Building, Tribune Tower, the Jeweler's building, etc. The general public has never been a big fan of modern architecture, and was always distressed by the destruction of more traditional buildings for modern replacements. There is pride taken in the fact that buildings like the Sears Tower are impressively tall, but no one thinks that the Sears Tower is “beautiful.” More broadly, Chicago's skyline of mostly modern towers impresses people in terms of scale and number. It's amazing as a collection of enormous buildings. However, aside from a few modern architecture aficionados, no one finds individual modernist towers to be great works of art.
@asmacarthur
@asmacarthur 11 ай бұрын
"Anxiety Architecture." At some point, the public is going to weigh in socially and city planners are going to be forced to acknowledge the public's preference for non-cantilevered, non-reverse tapered, non-perched, non-tuned-mass dampered?, visually "weak" construction. as in: "Yah, I always knew that one was going to tip over, hated looking at or walking past it."
@JackKack-kk5dd
@JackKack-kk5dd 10 ай бұрын
No, they probably aren't.
@bakishamilshamil4240
@bakishamilshamil4240 11 ай бұрын
Great Video thank you for your work
@crabtonia
@crabtonia 5 күн бұрын
I am reminded of the warning...'just because you CAN, does not mean you SHOULD'...this applies so appropriately to these structures...dgp/uk
@vordman
@vordman 10 ай бұрын
Those narrow towers look horrible. Like others have said New York is famed for its art decco architecture, but the modern towers look such a mish-mash of styles. What a shame that Singer Building was demolished, it looked amazing.
@subman721
@subman721 11 ай бұрын
270 Park Avenue(Chase Building) The Commodore building, & 15 Penn Plaza look very nice and are well done!
@NYCSKYSCRAPERS-hp6pm
@NYCSKYSCRAPERS-hp6pm 11 ай бұрын
I am a big fan of 270 Park Avenue, but also looking forward to Tower Fifth.
@VibnWavez
@VibnWavez 11 ай бұрын
City of the past. City of the future. Nothing else like it!
@davidc5191
@davidc5191 11 ай бұрын
The claim that the JP Morgan Chase tower will be 100% powered by hydroelectric power is ludicrous. There won't be a dedicated power line from any hydroelectric plant just to this building. All electrons in the power grid are indistinguishable from one another. You can't say this electron is from a hydro plant, that one is from a coal plant. Rather what's likely is that they bought credits from the power company that allows them to make this fictional claim. It's just a paperwork claim, which certainly one of the largest banks in the world knows how to do.
@michaelharbold7977
@michaelharbold7977 11 ай бұрын
We live in the golden age of fraud.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
no it isnt you're just ignorant. study up on this. i'll give you a couple tips, there is an article in the nytimes all about it and also for one example the newish manhattan west towers are powered in the same way.
@michaelharbold7977
@michaelharbold7977 10 ай бұрын
Are you certain you aren't the ignorant one? Things often aren't as they seem. Just like electric vehicles aren't clean whatsoever. @@meesalikeu
@andrewashdown3541
@andrewashdown3541 9 ай бұрын
So often these types of video are dire - this is exceptional - excellent.👍
@jasonthomas369
@jasonthomas369 11 ай бұрын
I really hope they don’t build an upside down building 🙄
@RomanticCity.
@RomanticCity. 9 ай бұрын
Love from Korea!!
@opalyankaBG
@opalyankaBG 11 ай бұрын
Do we need more office towers considering how efficient working from home is?
@robertofernandez7773
@robertofernandez7773 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you see it. work from home is dying slowly.
@JFLehr
@JFLehr 11 ай бұрын
@@robertofernandez7773 Disagree. I think we are experiencing a temporary pushback. It'd be crazy to think that even 10 years from now the same amount of people will be working in-office, as today. Which is why I don't understand why these sky scrapers are still going up in bulk. Unless they are like the German one with the cool elevator system.
@robertofernandez7773
@robertofernandez7773 11 ай бұрын
@@JFLehr agree to disagree. I guess it depends on where you live. City officials will push for return to the office. Not only companies. Companies have too many liabilities in property. That is why they are pushing for people to go back. Imagine Apple, for example. After spending billions on their campus and now nobody using it. I don't think so. And then you have city officials that are having dead zones in their cities. A lot of business rely on those people going to those offices. It those business go bankrupt, cities will loose a lot of tax base. So unfortunately, little by little the returns will happen. It is not a push back.
@JFLehr
@JFLehr 11 ай бұрын
@@robertofernandez7773 Those are fair points. I think you're right about how WFH can and will create dead zones in cities, and also about how companies are overextended in their ownership or lease arrangements. But even if it was to the public's economic benefit to stop working from home, who could even enforce that? The city governments may suffer but they can't impose anything. Companies will be the decision makers and it's not like they care about the city's welfare. I think when VP and C-Suite roles start being taken over by millenials, there will be very little attachment to the idea of forcing people to come into offices, especially when companies can virtually remove an entire line on the P&L (Office Lease Obligations)... It's a pushback.
@robertofernandez7773
@robertofernandez7773 11 ай бұрын
@@JFLehr Yes. The change of generations might change the way things happen. But conpanies are pushed by investors, looking for returns, not the workers and CEO. and government can't impose directly. But they have many more subtle ways. Ordinances, taxes. Plus wfh is horrendous for teaching skills to new employees. Part of my job is to train people. And when ive done training myself via zoom is just a shit show. Nobody learns anything. if you are a parent, you must know how horrendous it was for kids and parents to manage. But like you said. Time might change the way things. And new inventions also change the way things happen. For what we know AI might kill all our jobs. 😩
@user-xt7rs8md7p
@user-xt7rs8md7p 10 ай бұрын
I’m happy they’re building… wish some of the buildings weren’t ugly
@milovanokicic1125
@milovanokicic1125 11 ай бұрын
Impresivno deluje.Ne nosi dzabe najlepsi i najprivlacniji grad na svetu.Elegantne linije oblakodera,jednom reciju fantasticno.VRH !❤❤❤🎉
@meyer7312
@meyer7312 5 ай бұрын
Affirmation tower. What a great name
@OwenRULESSS
@OwenRULESSS 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think these “overshadow” any of the surrounding buildings. NYC is an ever changing city, its buildings tell that story… these new building are emblematic of the city’s dynamism and economic might
@orlandogonzalez9360
@orlandogonzalez9360 10 ай бұрын
Yes please lets get the attention off DUBAI and back where it belongs. A city that started it all, a city with culture, diversity, with real people.
@hermesrico
@hermesrico 11 ай бұрын
What they need is to solve the problems of the city campers.
@malcolmschenot6352
@malcolmschenot6352 11 ай бұрын
Almost every building that ever went up in New York has been hated by most contemporaneously. Then it's ho-hum-oh-well; and then they love it. New York will always be New York and the developers who manage to build in that supremely difficult city to build in never apologize. Each one becomes its own economic powerhouse and joins all the others that make New York.
@demven04
@demven04 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you!
@nevecenere
@nevecenere 11 ай бұрын
I really think building the Commodore Tower is a BIG mistake in that site
@skurinski
@skurinski 11 ай бұрын
Commodore is the best one by far
@Livingfortomorrowtoday
@Livingfortomorrowtoday 6 ай бұрын
Watching 9 Mile Productions makes me miss my home town city, I'm retired and moved to N C in 2015 and will always love NYC
@jamesc5751
@jamesc5751 7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile “we’re too broke for subways”, “we’re too broke for a police force”, “we’re too broke to keep our hospitals open”. NY is a dystopia.
@linus7255
@linus7255 11 ай бұрын
Apparently, Homer Simpson has left the nuclear power industry and is now an architect
@fp5495
@fp5495 10 ай бұрын
The upside down tower will never get built. Lots of these proposals never see the light of day because something always gets in their way and stops it.
@suspiciousafternoon
@suspiciousafternoon 11 ай бұрын
office spaces are getting increasingly vacant in NYC though 😂😂
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 11 ай бұрын
The Commodore is the only tower that I both love the design of and think shouldn't be built, at least in its current design. it's just too wide and too tall for its location in its current form. If it were thinner but taller? Sure! It would look way better and probably be more respectful of the Chrysler Building. But as it? It will forever make it seem like a leftover toothpick from a forgotten classical age...
@Looking4En
@Looking4En 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you on this.
@martincito1662
@martincito1662 11 ай бұрын
The design is too pretty for it not to be built.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
@@martincito1662 and the site is too wide and too prime. luckily, its a gorgeous building design.
@leafbelly
@leafbelly 10 ай бұрын
Came here to read all the complaints and design/architectural experts in the comments.
@MikeDevittorio
@MikeDevittorio 11 ай бұрын
Is that the same JP Morgan that’s pulling jobs out of NY State as fast as it can?
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
back office not hq jobs
@MikeDevittorio
@MikeDevittorio 10 ай бұрын
again, the bulk of the employees are "back office" you could pare JP Morgan down to one building if not less if solely HQ personnel @@meesalikeu
@alainniyongere8056
@alainniyongere8056 10 ай бұрын
Nice building ! excellent !
@duncanbeggs4088
@duncanbeggs4088 11 ай бұрын
Really wish Penn Plaza had more of an Art Deco shape to it, given its location it could really contribute to the skyline's beauty but as it stands the current renderings show an ugly design. The JP Morgan tower looks quite nice, IMO.
@shazanali692
@shazanali692 11 ай бұрын
What is fosters thinking about, it looks too new age for that to be next to the empire, the empire is like the Effie tower of new York, to me it's wrong
@pbinnj3250
@pbinnj3250 5 ай бұрын
Oddly I think the 432 building is nice looking. I know its facade is basically stacked square windows, but I admire the proportions. They seem appropriate, for some reason.
@movingforward20
@movingforward20 11 ай бұрын
I really like the curved building design that you see with the Shanghai Tower. New York City needs more of these creative and uniquely shaped buildings. The firm that designed the Shanghai Tower is also designing one of these buildings too. 175 Park Avenue looks nice.
@justincalloway7525
@justincalloway7525 9 ай бұрын
I love the JP Morgan Chase Skyscraper but I hate the other buildings.
@tsnovak20
@tsnovak20 11 ай бұрын
Some of the designs are absolutely hideous
@firstlast1947
@firstlast1947 10 ай бұрын
It was only a few years ago, 2020, when they were predicting that cities were dead, everyone was fleeing to live in small towns, due to Covid. Now everyone is flooding back in and they are doubling down on the skyscrapers. Anyone who bought real estate in 2020 must have done very well.
@yeahthatguy810
@yeahthatguy810 10 ай бұрын
This is going to make the skyline even more beautiful. They are going to be a lot of people working from home who are going to be back in the office.
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 10 ай бұрын
many of these are mixed use
@John-hl2ir
@John-hl2ir 10 ай бұрын
New York is truly the capital of the earth
@Gigi-xr3qs
@Gigi-xr3qs 11 ай бұрын
What does a skyscraper have to do with including the African American community?
@DeBaRe
@DeBaRe 7 ай бұрын
2:30 - that's not right. The WTC 1&2 were the tallest ever demolished.
@flashflame4952
@flashflame4952 11 ай бұрын
Being born and raised in NYC, the amount of seriously ugly steel and glass buildings are ruining the city. These new buildings have absolutely zero character, these nothing pleasing for the eye. They all look like ice cube trays without any kind of talented craftsmanship. Just eye-sores....
@rg8438
@rg8438 5 ай бұрын
Those dilapidated pre-war buildings are shit boxes too. Oh wow, you were born and raised here. So unique. As if there aren't a few million people who claim the same thing here.
@freddiebrown9795
@freddiebrown9795 4 ай бұрын
Obviously @flashflame hasn't seen some of the gorgeous buildings being built on the east river waterfront on the queens AND Manhattan side let's not forget hudson yards if u think those are just glass n steel boxes I'd like to know what your idea of beauty is
@DINESH1983WONDERS
@DINESH1983WONDERS 13 күн бұрын
NOIDA-(New Orchha Industrial Development Authority) should look like "New York City ".
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