New York Club Kids on Phil Donahue talkshow 1993 (complete TV show)

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@joemasters2270
@joemasters2270 7 жыл бұрын
"Are you drug-free?" "Yes, all my drugs are free!" XD
@itsmeagain5348
@itsmeagain5348 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if anyone was going to comment about this, lol.
@alexcastro7339
@alexcastro7339 5 жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@tabbydarling
@tabbydarling 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Masters something I would say and I don’t even do drugs lol.
@Rightk777
@Rightk777 5 жыл бұрын
Not mine, but hilarious come back
@LunnaJannah
@LunnaJannah 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@Jezeroth
@Jezeroth 8 жыл бұрын
"When you insult them, they love that. When you insult them, you are saying to them: I'm afraid of you, I'm old, I'm old-fashioned, and anything out-of-the-ordinary, I'm terrified of" THANK YOU DONAHUE.
@TheGravygun
@TheGravygun 3 жыл бұрын
being offended doesn't necessarily mean being afraid maybe it means disgusted
@pparalaxx3014
@pparalaxx3014 3 жыл бұрын
He is worried
@mstwelvedeadlycyns
@mstwelvedeadlycyns Жыл бұрын
​@@TheGravygunRight people being disgusted=offended=insecure when a Lizzo loses weight and is skinny!
@154990jr
@154990jr 9 жыл бұрын
James is still living his fantasy. I live.
@hanktrill
@hanktrill 7 жыл бұрын
John Charles I wish I could love this comment! So true :)
@moreodat479
@moreodat479 4 жыл бұрын
gawd that bieber cunt all up our cultures assssss
@natalier7204
@natalier7204 4 жыл бұрын
He thinks he’s Truman Capote
@barbarabavier675
@barbarabavier675 4 жыл бұрын
But Michael isn't.
@czechchicklet6890
@czechchicklet6890 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbarabavier675 He's now dead, or were you implying that?
@lilacteeth
@lilacteeth 9 жыл бұрын
Why are people hating on Donahue? Yeah, he's a little all over the place but Michael Alig, himself, said that Donahue was a giant hippy who gathered all of the club kids for a group hug before the show and told them that he wasn't going to shame or degrade the club kids. He also is playing devil's advocate because this is a TALK SHOW...the host has to play every card. It's plainly obvious whose side he is on the whole time.
@avedic
@avedic 9 жыл бұрын
lilacteeth Hm...interesting take on Donahue. Didn't know that about the pre-show hug. Alig really said he did that? Kinda cool actually....
@CrackinJacks138
@CrackinJacks138 7 жыл бұрын
Joan rivers did it in a much better way
@parisz
@parisz 7 ай бұрын
@@CrackinJacks138 Gender rolls a la 80/90's...
@xochitlbk
@xochitlbk Ай бұрын
Definitely compared to Geraldo who was completely against them on his show but loved the ratings
@uncageXtheXcolours
@uncageXtheXcolours 10 жыл бұрын
James St James looks soooooo beautiful, his headpiece is exquisite! He's so lovely and everything he's talking about is beautiful
@aislinnkerr5618
@aislinnkerr5618 10 жыл бұрын
I know,right?
@KennKennX3
@KennKennX3 10 жыл бұрын
Love him
@jansmith9406
@jansmith9406 9 жыл бұрын
Oh come on.
@tyrstocry3493
@tyrstocry3493 7 жыл бұрын
uncageXtheXcolours and nothing’s changed. HES A GEM!!!
@hatedbymanylovedbyfew3567
@hatedbymanylovedbyfew3567 3 жыл бұрын
He’s and met him in person he’s sweetheart as well forgot for his autograph he’s a pioneer of Club Kids Style.
@NanceGingyCastroXoxo
@NanceGingyCastroXoxo 8 жыл бұрын
I'm 38 now and remember growing up watching all the shows that I knew were going to have club kids on them.I fell in love and adored them.
@kikiam7850
@kikiam7850 7 жыл бұрын
I love how the boss of one of the club kids stood up for her employee. I also get why Phil was saying those things at the beginning, to get the close-minded people to agree with him and listen more so that Phil can lure them in to hearing the club kids' side.
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 4 жыл бұрын
It's called entraining..you start where they are and then gradually relax in the reassuring safe zone you've created and they relax and open up some along with you.
@LeXyStAr77
@LeXyStAr77 9 жыл бұрын
'James has a trust fund so for him it can go on forever',,truest of truths,, over 20years later and he's Still James st James!
@josh05683
@josh05683 5 жыл бұрын
Angela TraumaMama All the money he has made was earned. Clearly you aren’t aware of drag/fashion. He has probably made more than you will ever see in your life.
@KaiDecadence
@KaiDecadence 5 жыл бұрын
@@josh05683 It's like these people don't understand that ANYONE can invest money and there are people in the creative arts who do just that.
@agonistes06
@agonistes06 5 жыл бұрын
his book is just poetry. what a fabulous person he is!
@BleuEye
@BleuEye 4 жыл бұрын
It must be nice...
@michaelbonica8822
@michaelbonica8822 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he does
@dmcoffman
@dmcoffman 8 жыл бұрын
It's so strange that Michael Alig is known as the ringleader of this movement because every time I watch videos of the Club Kids, he is ALWAYS the least interesting, most unoriginal, and most annoying of the group.
@Howard007
@Howard007 5 жыл бұрын
Nelson Sullivan is the Man!
@citizendame6329
@citizendame6329 5 жыл бұрын
Bc you only see him for a few moments on camera, and everyone acts differently with a camera suddenly shoved into their faces plus they're trying to work. He was probably different when they were really partying on drugs and in private among closer friends. Running around a club schmoozing with guests for a few minutes at a time is going to be boring of course. The real fun happened after hours and in private convos and parties. Plus he was a party promoter, so he set all props up, came up with wild ideas, sent invites, etc., so he really was the ringleader. He's the one who took control and led the parties. He spent a lot of time running around doing sound checks, making sure everyone got in, had drink tickets, any complaints when to him, etc. He was busy until the parties finally wound down.
@vickydee2437
@vickydee2437 4 жыл бұрын
He was the most outrageous of them all if you read James book youd understand. He thought about party ideas that were never done before and this was long before internet and cell phones
@thedrunkenramblingsnorthea4201
@thedrunkenramblingsnorthea4201 4 жыл бұрын
actually agreed yes.From what i've researched on the club kid movement (I was only born '92 lol to be fair) I believe that he did put work into being an influencer but then more interesting and less awful people turnT the party up
@shamismcgillin584
@shamismcgillin584 4 жыл бұрын
He had the drugs that’s why! Lmao
@excellentrosales
@excellentrosales 8 жыл бұрын
Stay out all night and sleep all day? It's just called being 21😂😂😂
@jayblack2093
@jayblack2093 6 жыл бұрын
It's also total nonsense. Limelight was filled with B&T high school kids who'd go out once a week. I know because when I was 16 and 17 I was one. Maybe they'd sleep in on Sunday, but only a few people on that stage made any kind of life or living out of clubbing. The rest of the people on that stage came along for the chance to put on clothes and makeup and go on TV to promote Tunnel for free, and to get on Peter Gatien's good side (he's since been jailed for tax evasion and - bc he's a Canadian citizen - banned from the US). The woman on the phone who said Peter was exploiting the kids was right, of course... and Phil is an idiot for defending a club owner who made his living on the backs of "club kids" as young as 13.
@triciaharding513
@triciaharding513 6 жыл бұрын
A O science documentaries
@wiseguy9202
@wiseguy9202 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I was 15 to 17
@almareyes2192
@almareyes2192 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but ayee that's my life💯💯💯💯💯😂😂👋 Except I stay up all night at work 😭😭😂
@dgenerated
@dgenerated 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayblack2093 And Michael exploited them too, its called Business!.
@henrriettehueck2525
@henrriettehueck2525 9 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how gorgeous James looks here. Like absolutely beautiful, she's so graceful.
@christinecollins6648
@christinecollins6648 7 жыл бұрын
when I first saw him around back then some people thought he was too fishy. He has always had an edge however
@divereric
@divereric 6 жыл бұрын
Louise Metric wait, James St. James transitioned?.
@snoozeking7497
@snoozeking7497 6 жыл бұрын
He was the original Club Kid. He told Michael Alig what to do and how to do it.
@Iburn247
@Iburn247 6 жыл бұрын
They re all pedos
@YoutubeISPROPAGANDA
@YoutubeISPROPAGANDA 4 ай бұрын
@@diverericno he’s always identified as a man the person commenting is trying too hard to push something that isn’t there 😂
@samnyc2
@samnyc2 6 жыл бұрын
This was 25 years ago, the youngest here are around late 40's, 50 or more now, if they are alive. Would love to hear them interviewed now.
@katherinek3314
@katherinek3314 5 жыл бұрын
Check out James st James he's still doing drag
@joyhruska9377
@joyhruska9377 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of them are still around but quite a few are no longer in the spotlight. Michael can't seem to get it together, James St James is still doing things, Freeze is off the radar, Michael Mustafo still writes. Some have passed but a lot just grew up. Lol
@misspanera451
@misspanera451 4 жыл бұрын
Joy Hruska Well said
@ResidentEvilBiohazard
@ResidentEvilBiohazard 4 жыл бұрын
Many work in the arts...painting, modeling, writing, film/tv, and some are even tv personalities or journalists.
@ladyred5468
@ladyred5468 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget RuPaul he was apart of their group and is probably the biggest of them all (known wise)
@wdjkncvgdfsbyt34jgvi
@wdjkncvgdfsbyt34jgvi 8 жыл бұрын
I just love how everytime they get insulted they all just laugh and agree lmao
@HopefulInterventions
@HopefulInterventions Жыл бұрын
They’re crazy! Michael Alig is a brutal murderer and died of a drug overdose.
@florencelovme
@florencelovme 10 жыл бұрын
This is for those that dont "get" the 90s generation. In the 90s era, it was about the fun and sharing and being part of that community. There was no posers or pretentious clubgoers or any of that. we used to have fun and didnt have to think about it. Just that. only the over 30s will know the feeling.
@PwlgCo
@PwlgCo 10 жыл бұрын
Hey if it helps to know,I;m 25 and I understand what you're getting at. I live my life for fun and when people act like I'm doing something wrong it's like ugh...
@strnglhld
@strnglhld 9 жыл бұрын
Uhh. No. There have definitely been posers in every generation.
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right. In the 80s and 90s it was about fun, creativity and dancing elbow to elbow with people of all walks of life, red, blue, white, black or green it didn't matter your skin tone or how much you had in the bank. Hard to convince folks who weren't there that this magical world existed. But it did!
@UnionAdvocate
@UnionAdvocate 6 ай бұрын
‘76 baby here. For us 90s twenty-somethings, especially us gay ones, the 90s was our decade to express ourselves. I’d argue that the 90s produced the best music ever.
@johnchaulk
@johnchaulk 28 күн бұрын
These people were the ultimate “posers”. They are the equivalent of the tattoo covered blue haired pronoun users we have today.
@CITUAS
@CITUAS 5 жыл бұрын
38:00 Coast Guard guy gave me chills. Talk about expert foreshadowing. If only Alig had actually listened to that man and heeded his advice.
@midnightrun2764
@midnightrun2764 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Sorry, but what happened to him? 🤔
@JH-rt2co
@JH-rt2co 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder where that coast guard dude is now...(in 2022)
@heidistabbert3062
@heidistabbert3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightrun2764 he died of a drug overdose a year and a half ago.
@joanndigiulio9650
@joanndigiulio9650 Жыл бұрын
@Midnight Run Michael Alig is a murderer. He murdered Angel Melendez while strung out on heroin.
@hfxmusicman
@hfxmusicman Жыл бұрын
How gorgeous is that Coast Guard guy though...damn.
@susandavid4463
@susandavid4463 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, to those young people who don't know: Phil Donahue was the original talk show and host. He wasn't like the ones, today, where they showcase tabloid-type fodder without really having much to say about it. Donahue was actually a journalist. It was his job to play "devil's advocate," to get to the bottom of why people behaved the way they did and what happened as a result. He did it to and for every single person who ever graced his stage. The only reason he left television was because he retired-he didn't have to. People responded to his actual journalism. I miss it.
@AshyRenay
@AshyRenay 8 жыл бұрын
Or, he was an a$$hole. Sorry.
@susandavid4463
@susandavid4463 8 жыл бұрын
+Ashley Penrod What he was, was a journalist in the days when they were supposed to provoke and ask the tough questions, when they were supposed to question and probe for answers...my father was a journalist during the same period. You are now used to the propaganda journalists who are bought and sold by corporations and products, who are told what they can and cannot ask. It's tragic, because journalism is intended to open dialogue and force people to ANSWER the tough questions. Real journalism no longer exists. Which is why I gave up on it.
@jerseytomato100
@jerseytomato100 8 жыл бұрын
Donahue was NOT an asshole. He's asking questions that the average, Conservative, boring, middle-aged housewife living in Iowa with 20 cats would ask. Donahue himself was a staunch liberal.
@CapriTheManBasher
@CapriTheManBasher 5 жыл бұрын
@BuildBlok 85 racist af
@christiangrey6388
@christiangrey6388 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss him. Definitely for more the intellectual crowd. The Anderson Cooper of today's generation. My episode never got aired :(
@juhyassmin
@juhyassmin 9 жыл бұрын
UGH! James St. James is EVERYTHING.
@MajicFreeman
@MajicFreeman 8 жыл бұрын
+Pet Monster Yeh Monsters make great pets. But, btw, James wasn't involved in the murder at all.
@lisalisa4576
@lisalisa4576 8 жыл бұрын
Majic Freeman no, but he didn't do anything when he found out about it.
@mandeloo9404
@mandeloo9404 7 жыл бұрын
Jasmine M. "Do not feed the drug child!"
@brodyparker2547
@brodyparker2547 7 жыл бұрын
Everything he is saying is so profound for those times.
@Jasmine-ct4qi
@Jasmine-ct4qi 7 жыл бұрын
where is he?!
@avedic
@avedic 9 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool time-capsule. I love the girl at 6:10...her eyes are lit up by this; you can tell she's loving it. I'm a straight guy(not even a little bi), but I adore gay culture and everything tangential to it. It's liberating and *_creative_*. And it's hilarious to see the faces on all the older people in the audience; they have no IDEA what to think of all this. I can't imagine how shocking it must have been for them in 1993. What's funny is...all the audience members' fashion/aesthetic look pretty *_strange_* now in 2015....while the club kids *_still_* look cutting-edge creative.
@battlecitysinner
@battlecitysinner 9 жыл бұрын
avedic I'm straight too and I love this shit as well.
@SistaStroke
@SistaStroke 9 жыл бұрын
+Kara Ashley (Karadactyl) 100% agree!
@jenniferhammit9656
@jenniferhammit9656 8 жыл бұрын
you are sooo right my dear!
@CuteDeadGirl666
@CuteDeadGirl666 8 жыл бұрын
Dude im 16 and out as gay, i do drag and am completely open. You'd be shocked about how many straight boys are just like you, but FYI we are all somewhere in the middle. Trust me. but being an ally is so amazing, you do you! Love yourself.
@CuteDeadGirl666
@CuteDeadGirl666 7 жыл бұрын
i mean you may be right, they could be gay. there's nothing wrong with that
@astralfluxaf
@astralfluxaf 2 жыл бұрын
“I look like a heroin addict… but I’m not.. it’s just makeup.” - Ailig… never could keep his mouth closed could he? 🤦‍♀️
@Sweetamber222
@Sweetamber222 7 жыл бұрын
Binge watching all these club kid interviews.
@amykramer4515
@amykramer4515 6 жыл бұрын
SweetAmber same here it's crazy
@ZELLA706
@ZELLA706 6 жыл бұрын
Me too. Right before was a Marilyn Manson interview binge session.
@amykramer4515
@amykramer4515 6 жыл бұрын
Trigg Bell 🤣 it happens
@ZELLA706
@ZELLA706 6 жыл бұрын
Amy Kramer and who knew I would be so intrigued with Marilyn. He is so incredibly intelligent. It’s hypnotic.
@amykramer4515
@amykramer4515 6 жыл бұрын
Trigg Bell yes he really is very intelligent he's good friends with the Osborne's he's also very business savvy.
@macarthurradio
@macarthurradio 5 жыл бұрын
James St. James is absolutely lovely and I love his positive message and how he told that girl to start her own club kids group where she lived, and how fun is in everyone's hearts. The club kids were just colorful people and it's sad but interesting how a person's apperance greatly affects how people treat them. Michael Alig doesn't represent them all, it seems most were people just having fun.
@joed2818
@joed2818 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. All that is fine and dandy. But they played with fire the moment Heroin was incorporated into their drug smorgasbord. Doomed from the very first taste.
@joang6325
@joang6325 Жыл бұрын
My cod 🐟 who needs a "friend" like james st james
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
James didn't do heroin@@joed2818 He was too busy being a Michael Alig knock-off, and not convincingly. James abandoned Michael when the latter was accused of drug distribution by the Feds, when everyone in the scene knew Alig didn't distribute drugs. That was Lord Michael and Steve Lewis. But James didn't want the contents of his then-upcoming book to be leaked, and they would have been if he gave sworn testimony in Brooklyn Fed Court. Great friend!
@J.R.zsf47
@J.R.zsf47 Ай бұрын
yA know, I watched this "Talk show" thing evolve since the 70's. for those into journalism type work, Donahue really offers up all the info, as well as a panel, guest callers, etc. Peeps of today take heed and be inspired to be open minded and steady even keel toward FREEDOM. Its not for the faint of heart. Time to build our culture!!!
@gabeash007
@gabeash007 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Richie Rich stood up for the girls
@keysdirtyprada9269
@keysdirtyprada9269 8 жыл бұрын
I love Richie so much he's adorable
@KimmieB17
@KimmieB17 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he created Heatherette.
@blondeleviathan4649
@blondeleviathan4649 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Richie rich is adorable! And mr. culkin should have played him in a movie, because they have such similar features ❤️❤️
@cuppacoffee75
@cuppacoffee75 2 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Richie Rich in Party Monster?
@BlackBlurDarkness
@BlackBlurDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
I WONDERED THE SAME THING!
@alesi86
@alesi86 Жыл бұрын
@@cuppacoffee75 he came out in it, but not a main character
@BoundInHumanBones
@BoundInHumanBones 8 жыл бұрын
I've got a thousand things to say about this but lets just say James st James is soooo fabulous! And so beautiful ! and leave it that way.
@K3vinK
@K3vinK 4 жыл бұрын
He was always a step above them. Even when Alig spoke down to him.
@maryjaneg8328
@maryjaneg8328 8 жыл бұрын
It is so rude how the audience reacted towards them. some of the club kids were troubled but not all of them. It's so interesting hearing about their lives.
@harrypels
@harrypels 8 жыл бұрын
+Maryjane Garza Imagine being so misunderstood and so very culture-defining at the same time.
@maryjaneg8328
@maryjaneg8328 8 жыл бұрын
+Sonderguard yes. I really couldn't stand alig after the whole murder thing though.
@tyrstocry3493
@tyrstocry3493 7 жыл бұрын
Maryjane Garza it was a different time, to be fair.
@JudaBGC
@JudaBGC 7 жыл бұрын
that's culture
@archer9855
@archer9855 6 жыл бұрын
guinness4life That is the same with every generation...Every generation have a youth that defines THEIR culture. Discos, raves, Woodstock, etc. So, yes, they were culture-defining, and you'll see it every decade.
@Tom5thousand
@Tom5thousand 8 жыл бұрын
I like at 14:25 Phil is talking to someone else and Michael stomps his foot and James is like "we have to pay attention to Michael!" Right there just says it all about Alig haha.
@jlee7904
@jlee7904 6 жыл бұрын
Tom I know right he was always like me me me me me
@raccoonchronicles5134
@raccoonchronicles5134 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I caught that too.
@K3vinK
@K3vinK 4 жыл бұрын
He has a punchable face.
@Annuska1995
@Annuska1995 3 жыл бұрын
Though he was talented in what he did but he was a childish arrogant little sociopath. Karma got him in the end.
@jambutty2218
@jambutty2218 3 жыл бұрын
He has no manners.
@Pneumarose
@Pneumarose 8 жыл бұрын
Michael was high as fuck.
@Pneumarose
@Pneumarose 8 жыл бұрын
SuperSickSarah666 very true 😂😭
@jennifersimpson5288
@jennifersimpson5288 7 жыл бұрын
21BakDoor21 oh God. Have you ever been in a K hole?? It sucks!!!!
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 8 ай бұрын
​@@jennifersimpson5288fr. And coming out of it is just agony. I will only ever partake if I'm around someone who isn't.
@stefanhoimes
@stefanhoimes 8 ай бұрын
Now.. several of them are sucking on lollipops. That's kinda common on molly and h.
@Amie-
@Amie- 7 ай бұрын
And?
@amandagiacomo1058
@amandagiacomo1058 10 жыл бұрын
I love how the host assumes that because someone has facial piercings, it's okay to touch their face.
@DawnAYoung-vk4on
@DawnAYoung-vk4on Жыл бұрын
Richie Rich said it best… it’s just like creative minds that make movies and such. It’s creativity and should never be looked down upon. Creativity and passion built this world we live in. Why shun those who can make life more interesting, beautiful and fun
@Vanessa-fd3mr
@Vanessa-fd3mr 8 жыл бұрын
I love James st. James. I'm so glad he's on Bravo now and still doin his thang.
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
He's a wannabe Michael Alig now and that's exactly what he was in the late 80s and early 90s. Betrayed Michael, too, first chance he got by refusing to testify that Michael wasn't involved in distributing drugs. Fortunately others in the scene myself included were willing to take the stand, and the Fed conviction was run concurrent. I'm sure MA won't get much sympathy here, but one shouldn't serve decades for something unless they actually committed that specific crime.
@HRH-THO-II
@HRH-THO-II Жыл бұрын
​@historyiwitness5915 I am friends with several people that are on that stage and if you're trying to tell us that he wasn't involved in drug distribution that shit just won't fly. Just because they couldn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean " he wasn't involved". And Michael was only convicted of 1st degree manslaughter, nothing to do with drugs....and I happen to own 4 of Michael's paintings. I think he was a wonderfully talented artist.
@NewyorkRican2191
@NewyorkRican2191 6 жыл бұрын
Micheal in this show was incredible high and was losing control. You can clearly see it based from his previous two appearence from the Geraldo Show. It's truly tragic that his out of Control drug use lead to the murder of Angel with Wings. Rest in peace Angel.
@Fnanaanf
@Fnanaanf Жыл бұрын
He’s sniffling nonstop and so jittery. Definitely high, yup
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
You do know that Angel was supplying the heroin, right? So it's not actually that surprising he'd be involved. Not saying what happened was justified -- Angel was my downstairs neighbor and a nice enough person -- but its takes 2 to Tango.
@NewyorkRican2191
@NewyorkRican2191 Жыл бұрын
I knew Angel well enough to know he was not a bad person at all but made questionable choices as it relates to dealing drugs at the clubs. He always showed love to everyone at the clubs. I don't agree with selling drugs but this was not an excuse to end someone life in the matter that happen.
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
By showed love@@NewyorkRican2191 don't you actually mean sold them drugs? Angel was not outgoing, he was quiet. His wings and his drugs were the loudest part of him. Nobody said it was an "excuse" but it's reality that when you are a drug dealer and deal with drug addicts, bad things happen.
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
Also@@NewyorkRican2191 this video aired before Michael began taking heroin. I know, because I was there. At this moment in time it was coke, K, and X. There was no heroin in his system, which is what led to Angel's death, so not sure you're seeing what you think you're seeing.
@TheOfficialTarynTots
@TheOfficialTarynTots 4 жыл бұрын
Im watching these old vids after hearing about Michael Aligs death. Anyone else?
@SusieSynth
@SusieSynth 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god ge died???
@jeyDsixx18
@jeyDsixx18 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t find out til like a month ago, I’m surprised it didn’t get more media coverage but it did happen on Xmas during a pandemic so I’m not shocked it got put on the back burner but it didn’t even come across my recommendations, I had to go looking for the party monster movie and ended up stumbling upon ernies pee-ew episode saying he had died...
@TheOfficialTarynTots
@TheOfficialTarynTots 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeyDsixx18 I saw it scrolling on the bottom of the screen while watching the E channel when it happened. Idk who he was before that.
@jelly5289
@jelly5289 3 жыл бұрын
No fucking way . That’s wild
@IncubusOfDeath
@IncubusOfDeath 3 жыл бұрын
We were going in there from 1987 to the mid 90s...the best times ever. The Shampoo Room, VIP Room, our school friend, DJ Divine, was spinning the turntables sometimes on a Wednesday night, and get us on the guest list.
@neilm7902
@neilm7902 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Limelight really was one of the best clubs to ever exist in NY. At least IMO. Lots of fun and good memories within those church walls.
@ascent8487
@ascent8487 2 жыл бұрын
Jennytalia is Jenny Dembrow and is involved with an organization that works with young women. She’s actually done very well for herself and is a contributing member of the community.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 9 жыл бұрын
St. James was on The Jerry Springer Show, Geraldo, Joan Rivers Show, America's Next Top Model cycles 5, 7, & 11, Rupaul's Drag Race, etc.
@avedic
@avedic 9 жыл бұрын
*33:30* - "And you're drug free?" _"Yeah, I'm drug free..._*_rolls eyes_*_"_ heh....
@Medallion2006
@Medallion2006 8 жыл бұрын
Oh good grief it was just dressing up, relax.
@zacdavid9919
@zacdavid9919 8 жыл бұрын
Until Michael Alig committed murder, sure.
@MajicFreeman
@MajicFreeman 8 жыл бұрын
Sure, but the murder happened like 5 or 6 years later.
@InsectBaby
@InsectBaby 8 жыл бұрын
Ms. Ravenwood It was actually pretty revolutionary you bigot
@samslost6011
@samslost6011 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@MusicRainfield
@MusicRainfield 6 ай бұрын
So many of them died from drugs. 😢
@LadyMcGiusti
@LadyMcGiusti 9 жыл бұрын
Oh Limelight...I wish I could say I remember the times...but I don't. Because I had an awesome time ;). Also, I used to work at a video store in NYC that rented to the Gaitiens. Peter's wife was very nice.
@AshyRenay
@AshyRenay 8 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine his wife being nice at all. We can all blame "Party Monster" for that, I suppose. :) But if she was anything as portrayed in the film, no. She was many adjectives, but nice is not one of them. I truly am glad to hear that maybe the movie went too far, and she was probably a pretty cool person.
@divereric
@divereric 6 жыл бұрын
Brutella deKill do you did go there during those times?
@Wickedgarden375
@Wickedgarden375 4 жыл бұрын
Omg tell me all about the 90’s♥️
@timafiggy
@timafiggy 4 жыл бұрын
i went to SoundFactory 94
@dawnagordon2333
@dawnagordon2333 7 жыл бұрын
So sad Michael end up killing Angel . All high at time. Rip Angel
@catamarii
@catamarii 8 жыл бұрын
james is EVERYTHING in this
@tanyamarinelli3567
@tanyamarinelli3567 7 жыл бұрын
richie was so good to me at limelight thank for everything.
@erinmefford8041
@erinmefford8041 4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome you met him
@pilimt1498
@pilimt1498 8 жыл бұрын
I would've definitely hung out with these people. No doubt about it.
@KidsWithGuns1992
@KidsWithGuns1992 6 жыл бұрын
My current friends are just like this, we always go to gay clubs and dress up in drag and all over the top. It's pretty much the exact same thing (even the bars we go to have this sort of scene, tonnes of them where I live) minus the catty bullshit and self centred-ness
@KidsWithGuns1992
@KidsWithGuns1992 6 жыл бұрын
@John Luke Brand Well no that was just Michael, and that was unusual / not premeditated. The rest is coo
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 4 жыл бұрын
They could be as elitist and cliquey as any other social milieu.. it wasnt all warmth sweetness and light.. some of the folks on the stage weren't welcoming to all, were exclusive and excluding of anyone nerdy ordinary and not 'cool' artistic or fabulous enough to impress..
@chilenapromedioRU
@chilenapromedioRU 2 жыл бұрын
I always stayed away from the attention seekers, heavy drug users.
@masterofwit339
@masterofwit339 Жыл бұрын
It’s awesome coming back to this 30 years later. This is what my 90’s looked like, only I wasn’t nearly as creative and donned huge wide leg jeans, thrift store baby tees and shell toes. Raves were the place to be. Acid was the thing to take. Dancing took place all night. I saw a lot of things as a young teen that opened my eyes wide and taught me a lot (what to do/what not to do). I got married and had a baby at 21 so this phase only lasted a few years, but it was the _most_ freeing, authentic and exciting. Looking at the world today… the 90’s were nothin 😂
@7somekindofsomething
@7somekindofsomething 2 жыл бұрын
38:02 best piece on the show. We all choose our paths. Try to do it with caution for yourself and understanding for others.
@ChuckDsChic
@ChuckDsChic Жыл бұрын
I would have been a club kid! I love how free they are and its art!
@SomethingOhMy
@SomethingOhMy 7 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaan! I remember watching these type of shows as a little girl. I felllll in looooovvvveeee. I just knew I was gonna grow up, move to NY and be just like them.
@katrynamcintyre5687
@katrynamcintyre5687 4 ай бұрын
Phil, thanks for opening my eyes to this culture of young people. I'd certainly try on an outfit....for fun. Sending my best, Kate
@ivorytower99
@ivorytower99 3 жыл бұрын
I used to hang at Limelight, back in 92-93.
@Shamariah2011
@Shamariah2011 5 жыл бұрын
I had my tongue pierced in 1993. I was a club kid goth who ran raves. I wasn’t in New York but it was happening all over the us of a
@Leftistbreakfist
@Leftistbreakfist 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as a young girl in Kansas... and I just wanted to be there with them so badly.
@David-hr8mq
@David-hr8mq 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I was watching in Nebraska and wanted nothing more than to go to New York and join them.
@Emmy-ox3hf
@Emmy-ox3hf 9 жыл бұрын
James St. James is so wonderful! Love him!!
@koopatroopa187
@koopatroopa187 8 жыл бұрын
James St. James looks magical. Like he came off the set of Legend or something.
@axelemorales
@axelemorales 9 жыл бұрын
The gorgeous girl with the nose ring at 34:30 is literally April Ludgate.
@MrJeyzii
@MrJeyzii 8 жыл бұрын
So sad that this time ended, it would be my time x
@TheKingArther
@TheKingArther 8 жыл бұрын
Ms. Ravenwood We are already too hot and sexy to burn. We are too fabulous, that the devil and god turn away because we are to damn hot and sexy.
@AmberAmber
@AmberAmber 8 жыл бұрын
Ms. Ravenwood You seem sooooo very sad & broken. I sincerely hope you learn to find love & peace in the rest of your life. Hatred hurts the vessel which stokes it as much as those receiving your hatred.
@Clariccy
@Clariccy 7 жыл бұрын
the 90´s generation is still around
@Clariccy
@Clariccy 7 жыл бұрын
and people with those faves and subscriptions are not " just like this " what the fuck lol
@DWKThedogbreaths
@DWKThedogbreaths 9 жыл бұрын
The American club scene was more contrived and class orientated. London had a scene more inclusive and art/life. M. Alig was an ugly person and tainted that NY club scene with desperate neediness. London led where NY followed. In my opinion of course
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 4 жыл бұрын
@melly mel but Andy Warhol was also hierarchical, star-worshipping and excluding of anybody at anytime
@jeanielowe3246
@jeanielowe3246 3 жыл бұрын
I was so sorry to hear about that young man from Cuba that came here to America with his family as a kid, and he was killed. Awful. My heart and prayers are with his family. 🙏💔😔
@kitanakahn101
@kitanakahn101 10 жыл бұрын
Michael n Kevin need to chill down and behave professionally like how James St. James carry himself. Being rebel and defensive will not give good impressions especially to people who don't understand them and trying to understand them... wish this was happened in more sophisticated way back then.
@momijiroxable
@momijiroxable 10 жыл бұрын
do you mean Michael and Richie? haha
@kitanakahn101
@kitanakahn101 10 жыл бұрын
Kevin Londono maybe
@alexziggyful
@alexziggyful 10 жыл бұрын
Michael, was obviously quite high, Richie was probably high too but he was totally being Richie. Michael just wanted more attention...and let's face it, Donahue was a horses ass-he was rude, arrogant, self serving and boorish. James certainly had the most command of the situation. But think about it, the format of this show was totally about riling people up, those on stage and in the audience and Phil was a master at pissing people off to the point of making them look foolish, and if he couldn't make them appear stupid and out of control he would make some back-handed comment under his breath to the camera to make a lame point that the guests/audience members were the ones lacking in judgement. Donahue was a dickwad.
@gabeash007
@gabeash007 6 жыл бұрын
James was on drugs like the rest of them lol he was just on whole different high
@SuV33358
@SuV33358 4 жыл бұрын
Yep....very unbecoming
@knowinthatrowan
@knowinthatrowan 9 жыл бұрын
I wondered why that was the reaction when Rupaul was mentioned at 9:55? can someone please tell me
@gordo1825
@gordo1825 9 жыл бұрын
Probably cause club kids can often be catty & love to diss each other.
@JPlovesmusic
@JPlovesmusic 9 жыл бұрын
Also I think that back then the only mainstream pop culture representation of "gay" culture was RuPaul and maybe Paris is Burning. To the club kids, who were more part of the high art/ club scene, I think they sort of resented the 'of course RuPaul gets brought up, that's the only version of gay culture these straight people can compute.'
@FreakFranOliveira
@FreakFranOliveira 9 жыл бұрын
***** RuPaul became famous and got into pop culture, but he was not club kids' mentor... in fact, he decided to go to New York because of the club culture.... and just like JPlovesmusic said, maybe they resented how RuPaul became a reference because he's a "computable" version of drag culture... 1993 was the year Ru exploded, actually
@avedic
@avedic 9 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool time-capsule. I love the girl at 6:10...her eyes are lit up by this; you can tell she's loving it. I'm a straight guy(not even a little bi), but I adore gay culture and everything tangential to it. It's liberating and *_creative_*. And it's hilarious to see the faces on all the older people in the audience; they have no IDEA what to think of all this. I can't imagine how shocking it must have been for them in 1993. What's funny is...all the audience members' fashion/aesthetic look pretty *_strange_* now in 2015....while the club kids *_still_* look cutting-edge creative.
@turi319
@turi319 9 жыл бұрын
***** probably a mix a jealousy and he represented a form of sell out to them. but of course now quite a few work with him.
@samslost6011
@samslost6011 5 жыл бұрын
If I had known how fantastic Phil is I would have started watching him years ago
@matsuoooooo
@matsuoooooo 10 жыл бұрын
michael was outta pocket in this and i love how james carried herself like the queen she is
@jerseytomato100
@jerseytomato100 8 жыл бұрын
he looks like someone dripped bleach into his eyes. What's with all the red around them?
@joyhruska9377
@joyhruska9377 5 жыл бұрын
That was part of the downfall! Nobody could contain Michael and Peter created him!! Peter Gatian was as evil and crazy as Michael!!
@dgenerated
@dgenerated 4 жыл бұрын
James is a MAN!.
@9852323
@9852323 Жыл бұрын
HE*
@historyiwitness5915
@historyiwitness5915 Жыл бұрын
Because you knew either one of them@@joyhruska9377 ....Peter Gatien did not create Michael Alig. And no, Peter is neither evil nor crazy. Take your misinformation about people you never met and drop it in a hole.
@arisguess8756
@arisguess8756 3 жыл бұрын
James is ahead of his time at this age and the things he has being exposed to and stills chooses Love and to protect the kids instead of attracting them to New York like all the club kids were doing he was actually telling them to find it within them. My god. Bless it be your heart James 6:00
@nightlyterror
@nightlyterror 9 жыл бұрын
James is such an intelligent old soul
@jessefowler2733
@jessefowler2733 2 жыл бұрын
For no reason, I'm rewatching these interviews. I was a part of it and it lives on! We have built a city on the exact same principals. It is Black Rock City, and it exists for only about a month each year. More and more people are learning about it all over the world as Burning Man. It exists officially for 8 days.
@Graanvlok
@Graanvlok 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so in love with this culture. x
@staceyseward402
@staceyseward402 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I find it very fascinating
@nunya4586
@nunya4586 4 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a where are they now episode
@EvelynThomasElite
@EvelynThomasElite 10 жыл бұрын
michael alig was beyond high,,,, he was blowed out!
@K3vinK
@K3vinK 4 жыл бұрын
Wanted to punch him in his insufferable face.
@lovealwayswinslovealwayswi51
@lovealwayswinslovealwayswi51 3 жыл бұрын
He killed angel chain sawed him and dismembered him he was found on the shore of states Island in a suitcase
@twistoffate4791
@twistoffate4791 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovealwayswinslovealwayswi51 Actually, it was a box, not a suitcase. But it doesn't really matter because a man, Angel, was brutally murdered, which is horrific and sad. He wasn't innocent, but he sure didn't deserve to die the way he did.
@christianmohr2993
@christianmohr2993 2 жыл бұрын
So was his asshole 🤣
@winterlynn9012
@winterlynn9012 6 жыл бұрын
Ah that opening clip with the girl dancing in the cage from the 1992 movie "Bad lieutenant" with Harvey Keitel awesome movie and awesome era. This whole video makes me miss the 90s. I was just 9 years old when this aired but I remember watching it and living in NYC at the time I remember the fashion, music and era well. I used to always pass the limelight and think as soon as I'm a teenager or old enough to get in I'm going! Unfortunately the scene changed a bit and limelight closed by the time I was old enough to experience it.
@michaelbonica5614
@michaelbonica5614 4 жыл бұрын
Yup good movie. I miss em too.
@kamrul828
@kamrul828 9 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does Phil come as a pervert with his hands
@jenjen462
@jenjen462 2 жыл бұрын
Always surreal to me seeing Michael Alig in these and the Jeraldo scenes...talking about "this could be a stepping stone or a road block...you could overdose and die".
@mfallon130
@mfallon130 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@Simsrockslol
@Simsrockslol 8 жыл бұрын
James St James looks beautiful here
@erinvandalayyy7507
@erinvandalayyy7507 6 жыл бұрын
Oh good grief.
@infjard
@infjard 7 жыл бұрын
amazing to see people in the audience express their disapproval in such a peaceful manner. what the hell happened? why did we all start trying to kill the opposites of us?
@Clariccy
@Clariccy 7 жыл бұрын
came up when more and more people had platforms to express themselves on the internet
@Kat-of2uh
@Kat-of2uh 4 жыл бұрын
Group think and cancel culture.
@TheGravygun
@TheGravygun 3 жыл бұрын
the intolerant left has been doing this for years nothing new it's just the mainstream media has weaponized it
@AlbanianMan
@AlbanianMan 8 жыл бұрын
James St. James was HOT back then!
@Lucy_Ford
@Lucy_Ford 6 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture gave me a chuckle. Edit: Just realized your comment is 2yrs old!
@imsmarterthenurso7247
@imsmarterthenurso7247 5 жыл бұрын
The cleanest pleasure
@virgoandscorpiorising196
@virgoandscorpiorising196 4 жыл бұрын
Which one is james
@aceofhearts3063
@aceofhearts3063 4 жыл бұрын
virgo and scorpio rising the green one
@AlbanianMan
@AlbanianMan 4 жыл бұрын
I’m smarter then u r So the cleanest BEST pleasure
@middleofnowhere1313
@middleofnowhere1313 5 ай бұрын
Man, what we didn't know about Alig back then....
@kymtruglio6125
@kymtruglio6125 8 жыл бұрын
love James st James! such close minded audience. I wish they'd do a where are they know and see what those audience members have to say now. Kudos to all those club kids who paved the way for the community now!
@sds4life17
@sds4life17 7 жыл бұрын
24:35..Sophia..."This does Not come from Sears" Best Line Ever! Legendary!
@ryans7146
@ryans7146 9 жыл бұрын
I was ten years old when this aired....and I remember this show and Guess what I became... It all turned into eat, sleep, rave, repeat. Did anyone else get chills when Angel spoke. These people really did change the way mainstream was viewed. Of course we ended up having to go underground for awhile because of all the bad press but no press is bad press. Now Candy Kids and Club Kids have taken over the EDM scene and we have events like Electric Daisy Carnival, SnowGlobe, and Nocturnal Wonderland. one of the OG female club kids died in Miami from an OD (thought it was Jenny but I'll have to look that person up) and of course the infamous murder of angel. It does start as just pure good fun. I've been in the scene for 16 years. I survived.
@lauraserrano848
@lauraserrano848 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Singrossi how old was she when she died ????
@christenryan278
@christenryan278 6 жыл бұрын
When did angel speak?
@christenryan278
@christenryan278 6 жыл бұрын
Laura Serrano angel was a gay guy and went by him he.... but I didn’t realize he spoke on here?
@ryans7146
@ryans7146 4 жыл бұрын
@Pampel Moose yes, I'm aware. I was referencing the 94 Geraldo Rivera show. My video had switched because it was on auto-play and I didnt realize I was commenting on the Donahue show when that comment was written.
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 4 жыл бұрын
Wait Angel was there ? Where?
@danehlers9989
@danehlers9989 9 жыл бұрын
That Phil Is sure annoying.......He's a real CLOSE talker too.
@dolc3ff3
@dolc3ff3 6 жыл бұрын
The host was so dismissive and condescending! The audience was even more ignorant and closed out. I would of walked out. We’ve made progress for sure!!
@nicolascanale782
@nicolascanale782 4 жыл бұрын
no lol. we have not.
@wogfun
@wogfun 7 жыл бұрын
Donahue, a true OG of daytime television.
@jenniferclark9842
@jenniferclark9842 5 жыл бұрын
wogfun What’s an OG?
@erindiazmclaughlin
@erindiazmclaughlin 7 жыл бұрын
LoL...I partied all night. Then went to work. Got off of my shift. Slept for 3 hours. Then grabbed my Club Kid outfit and went to the next party. I miss the good old days.
@Saiege
@Saiege 9 жыл бұрын
Damn James looks straight asian here!! Haha you can hear his little lisp too aww!! And I didn't recognize Michael without the dots all over his face haha They all look killer but James is obviously Queen!
@hangsambo12
@hangsambo12 8 жыл бұрын
" We do this just for fun. And ketamine. Actually, just ketamine. Please help us.".
@sarahlamoureaux5832
@sarahlamoureaux5832 14 күн бұрын
“Everybody’s lookin at me being rude. I’m gonna look in the mirror and be nice.” My official 2024 motto and mantra.
@hollysorensen7212
@hollysorensen7212 7 жыл бұрын
NO PHONE CALLS, Y'ALL!!! THIS WAS PRERECORDED!
@bluedragon4
@bluedragon4 8 жыл бұрын
I was 20 in 1993, so I remember the club kid culture well. It was actually pretty destructive. I'm curious what they look like now and what they think of those times?
@DejectedWraithxx
@DejectedWraithxx 8 жыл бұрын
well james st james does a show on world of wonder so you could hop on over there and see what you think of his "looks", i have no idea about the rest of them tho
@bluedragon4
@bluedragon4 8 жыл бұрын
Yøung Bløød not judging looks just curious how they dress now and if they are still outrageous.
@SOS-ct9mv
@SOS-ct9mv 8 жыл бұрын
Michal murdered one of his club friends and got out of prison last year (I think)
@ladyboywonder9139
@ladyboywonder9139 8 жыл бұрын
Kevin Keel BLAH ! Obviously there's nothing here you understood or understand
@bluedragon4
@bluedragon4 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry assholes for wondering how they are all doing! lol. Fucking internet bitchy trolls. I see a few people who need to get fucked on this comments section!
@KarateKidKay
@KarateKidKay 8 жыл бұрын
These kids looked tripped the fuck out. I try not to judge but it seems like they've all been neglected in some way and have turned to this and whatever comes with it for comfort
@ms.ravenwood
@ms.ravenwood 8 жыл бұрын
KarateKidKay they are abused neglected teens and young people
@nathantye9864
@nathantye9864 7 жыл бұрын
James St. James looks flawless! OTT STUNNING
@MindBat
@MindBat 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone on stage must be coked up to the gills.
@ApricotDaddy
@ApricotDaddy 8 жыл бұрын
wow James looks so ethereal :O
@deetee609
@deetee609 8 жыл бұрын
can Kevin come with subtitles, please?
@coleslaw9449
@coleslaw9449 8 жыл бұрын
LIVING FOR THIS
@GrimesTheOG
@GrimesTheOG 10 жыл бұрын
Lol at fuckin donahue being shocked by a piercing
@LogoMan7777
@LogoMan7777 4 ай бұрын
RIP Donahue
@mollymindfreak
@mollymindfreak 8 жыл бұрын
love how the intro featured that super edgy scary tongue ring! lmao
@GirtheAlienGoldfish
@GirtheAlienGoldfish 8 жыл бұрын
Back then, that was scary. So was Marilyn Manson. lol Oh, the 90's...
@Clariccy
@Clariccy 7 жыл бұрын
lol people just imitate the 90´s shit
@cuppacoffee75
@cuppacoffee75 2 жыл бұрын
I miss this time in my life so badly, and unless you lived it you'd never understand 🥰 I have a hard time finding my old club " Edge "friends in Ft. Lauderdale I sure miss everyone 🥰
@aprilmae8421
@aprilmae8421 10 жыл бұрын
Jenny Talia haha love the name choice!!!
@astrozombie548
@astrozombie548 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this before but am watching again after finding out that there was another "secret" person in Aligs apartment that day and he's sat on that stage, eerrie
@emotionalgurl7696
@emotionalgurl7696 9 жыл бұрын
I FUCKING LOVE THESE PEOPLE
@SpaceWizard-is4xe
@SpaceWizard-is4xe 9 ай бұрын
"Your first name is...?" "Vulva."
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