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Joe Schoen knows people are assuming the Giants will draft a QB at No. 6 but insists the team has other needs, which leads Mike Florio and Chris Simms to evaluate how New York will play it. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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@andresparry8104
@andresparry8104 2 ай бұрын
“One of those sticky white substances that need to go back in the tube”. Simms is in Rare form this morning.
@corylongville1492
@corylongville1492 2 ай бұрын
Yeah… wtf was that lol
@elilandrum2017
@elilandrum2017 2 ай бұрын
@@corylongville1492 lmfao simms jokes around like that
@CJStew06
@CJStew06 2 ай бұрын
I also think of toothpaste being like blue-this was so unnecessarily specific lol
@rockydiblasio5723
@rockydiblasio5723 2 ай бұрын
This guy bugged out 😂
@revan3841
@revan3841 2 ай бұрын
I was going to make the same comment. Well played my friend.
@MIDAZSITH
@MIDAZSITH 2 ай бұрын
6 years to see what you have in a qb, is ridiculous
@vanadyan1674
@vanadyan1674 2 ай бұрын
Daniel Jones is a rare talent, no other QB in the NFL can stare down two different receivers at the same time.
@lesmesromero3585
@lesmesromero3585 Ай бұрын
Bruh😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dobbytwostep9527
@dobbytwostep9527 2 ай бұрын
Can't see them passing up Malik Nabers if he's there at 6. Giants need a big WR1 playmaker, even if its jones, or lock throwing the ball around this year.
@Thagomizer-U235
@Thagomizer-U235 2 ай бұрын
Nabers has off field issues. Not worth risk.
@noahpeppers9908
@noahpeppers9908 2 ай бұрын
odunze or bowers. i dont want that thug
@lesmesromero3585
@lesmesromero3585 Ай бұрын
There are plenty of WR to choose from in this draft. Yall simply follow what the media tells you!
@dilwalecricket
@dilwalecricket 2 ай бұрын
From outside looking in it’s so easy to put everything on DJ especially since he got his contact. As a giants fan we need to look at facts not feelings Since coming to the league he has been the most sacked quarterback in the NFL. Let me know if this sounds like a well run organization with great support staff Jones has played under three different head coaches and four different offensive coordinators while having very limited offensive weapons and playing behind a typically really suspect offensive line. DJ’s career remind me of Alex smith and how with the 49ers he had many different head coaches and 8 different offensive coordinators in his first 7 years. The issue with this is the QB never has time to grow in the same system and have multiple offseason of adding more to the playbook
@vincentoravec261
@vincentoravec261 2 ай бұрын
Youre not wrong with this take. In the right organization DJ could have been a poor man's Josh Allen, which would have been pretty great.
@vincentgrupposo3076
@vincentgrupposo3076 2 ай бұрын
Completely agree with this ….
@Cutthroatnaj
@Cutthroatnaj 2 ай бұрын
The fact is that he sucks!
@theguy261
@theguy261 Ай бұрын
Don't insult Alex Smith please. I'm a giants fan and have no connection to the man but still
@mikec6733
@mikec6733 2 ай бұрын
It'll be a good draft if they unearth a diamond or two in the late rounds. It does happen occasionally.
@yepdontcarebud
@yepdontcarebud 2 ай бұрын
It happens all the time- for other teams. Just not the giants.
@gcminnovations3422
@gcminnovations3422 2 ай бұрын
Just need the right offensive line and a defense that can put pressure like these past 2 seasons .
@chrishunt9675
@chrishunt9675 2 ай бұрын
Surprised analysts don’t get it. DJ had two severe neck injuries. Now he’ll be less mobile. How many games do you expect to win that way.
@CaliNYGiantsfan
@CaliNYGiantsfan 2 ай бұрын
I was about to add a similar comment about Jones neck injury issue, and it’s a big one.
@chrishunt9675
@chrishunt9675 2 ай бұрын
@@CaliNYGiantsfan exactly, 2 serious neck injuries, he most likely shouldn’t even be playing now. They want to defend him but don’t care about his ability to walk in the future.
@VinScam17
@VinScam17 2 ай бұрын
Simms loves Jones for some odd reason.
@Cutthroatnaj
@Cutthroatnaj 2 ай бұрын
He sucks!
@tbuc2920
@tbuc2920 2 ай бұрын
Along with a ACL repair. Jones best part of his game is running , that is gone now.
@mykofreder1682
@mykofreder1682 2 ай бұрын
You draft top 8 or so you get premium, you get beyond 10 you get premium because someone made a mistake, because you do not pass on a Hall of Famer regardless of position if you are not targeting a specific position. Going from 4 to 6, with so many QBs picked, probably will change nothing for the team picking 4, where the guy you get at 11 or 12 may get a 2nd contract but probably is not a game changer. If they truly want a QB they should not allow someone drafting double digits to jump them to 4. And get some honest bids for your spot so you know what teams are offering so you can formulate a competitive bid, you don't want to be the Bears bidding against yourself for Trubisky but you want to put a bid in that will make the 4th pick think if they are trading back beyond premium draft positions.
@paulmysliborski4832
@paulmysliborski4832 2 ай бұрын
Well said.
@timdejoseph1595
@timdejoseph1595 2 ай бұрын
There is no QB worth trading up for when you are a team with this many holes. I really dont get you guys that are so desperate for a change of scenery at QB simply for the change of scenery.
@mintdragon9548
@mintdragon9548 2 ай бұрын
Not a Giants fan, but they definitely need to build up their team with the front office slotting positions/contract length and determine position prioritization for whatever team they want to build. Everything feels like they just threw everything in a blender assuming their previous high draft picks would all be 10 year superstars... and any misses caused the jenga stack to start to fall over. Barkley is gone, first contract stars leaving, free agents just collecting their bag, and the team doesn't have anything to build around since 2015 or so when the wheels started falling off. Really feel for Giant fans, quite the mess right now. Even the new head coach is over his head and coordinators and position coaches don't want to coach for him. 🤷‍♂
@cgctorrag
@cgctorrag 2 ай бұрын
You have to and have more than enough resources to evaluate all the prospects at every position.
@garethjohnson8579
@garethjohnson8579 2 ай бұрын
The Giants have bigger issues than QB. They spent draft picks and FA money on the o-line and wr group and they haven't panned out fully. Thats the problem. At 6 id go either best o-line or WR and that's without even talking about the defence. As a Cowboys fan i honestly thought the Giants would be tough games last year and they really weren't
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 ай бұрын
There are some really good OL. But none are worth the 6th pick. You could trade back and still get a great OL. There are 3 very good WRs. One with be there at 6. If you keep 6 you have to draft one. If you trade back, you draft a OL.
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 2 ай бұрын
Of course the y weren't. QB is definitely the biggest concern, but one of many. The two backups put up better performances than the starter who hasn't panned out in 5 years, including a game where he decided to go helmet first into a Dallas defender which was his first neck injury
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 2 ай бұрын
​@@larrylindgren9484trading back means you miss out on the two best tackles in the draft
@Cutthroatnaj
@Cutthroatnaj 2 ай бұрын
Qb is the most important position. The man sucks!
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 2 ай бұрын
@@Cutthroatnaj I was being sarcastic with the first line
@xavierjones9777
@xavierjones9777 2 ай бұрын
Who ever they get 6th pick will make this team drastically better
@danbaz13
@danbaz13 2 ай бұрын
Not if they draft another bust at qb
@SomeChink
@SomeChink 2 ай бұрын
Far from a guarantee
@jamesmcclain4588
@jamesmcclain4588 2 ай бұрын
Listen I get it it's a exciting time coming up with the draft for many teams but most teams don't want to expose their hand so you won't know what they will do
@winethirsty
@winethirsty 2 ай бұрын
More Simms Less Florio
@SantaBarbaraSongbird
@SantaBarbaraSongbird 2 ай бұрын
This is a great segment about the Giants. Simms is cookin. He made some good points
@DD-sr9xm
@DD-sr9xm 2 ай бұрын
Giants fan living in CO here. Big Blue do NOT fall in love with Drew Lock. You are going to be enticed by the big arm, decent running and scrambling, decent size, good kid BUT he doesn’t have the head for QB in the NFL. He throws short when they need long, he throws ping when they just need short. He hangs onto the ball when he should throw it away and vice versa. He is a heart breaker. Peyton Manning spent a month watching film every day exclusively with Drew and it didn’t help.
@MrMegaGamerMan
@MrMegaGamerMan 2 ай бұрын
Stand up and cheer for Shelby's?
@peteg2715
@peteg2715 2 ай бұрын
Daniel Jones is easily better than Lock. No way Lock would beat him out in a competition. But if they draft a rookie QB, they might start Lock over Jones early just to not risk getting Jones hurt & having to pay him more $$. Lock sucks tho, he's an INT machine
@roshan2865
@roshan2865 2 ай бұрын
You act like we signed him to be our starter. Clearly he is our backup and at most a bridge starter
@melindaostergren8115
@melindaostergren8115 2 ай бұрын
Rod, Mike. That thing that holds te hangers is a rod.
@tvtda1
@tvtda1 2 ай бұрын
its complicated because if you can find an elite upgrade at QB? by all means, do so. i'm not even saying all 6 QB's at the top don't have the potential to be an elite player. They all do have a punchers chance. i feel like the only difference with me is i believe you have just as good a shot Developing DJ as you do nailing a rookie QB pick. He is objectively talented. people get too out of pocket focused on his production without context. if ur a good coach, could you please develop the 6'5, 230 pound nice guy with elite mobility you already paid? please? DJ is talented and skilled and smart and a good person. thats literally every aspect of evaluating the position tbh. i understand DJ may potentially be a tease but... i would feel differently if he was just hopeless and a lost cause but he earned his extension winning a playoff game. people need to be more reasonable about this.
@ibopwebop
@ibopwebop 2 ай бұрын
I understand that he's had a bad oline but DJ was clearly over drafted and has had flashes of being good but it hasnt't been consistent. that's his biggest issue.
@Hozaritt
@Hozaritt 2 ай бұрын
As a member of gen z I have to acknowledge that “sticky white substance” is crazy to say 😂😂😂😂
@RobertBellamy-ou6oz
@RobertBellamy-ou6oz 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@wavnino1
@wavnino1 2 ай бұрын
That shit shouldn't fly in any got damn generation, wild af lol
@TheRealPrinceCastro
@TheRealPrinceCastro 2 ай бұрын
Nabers/Harrison or its a failed 1st round... Its weird how u can crucify a QB without ever giving him a real WR
@FSamuels20
@FSamuels20 2 ай бұрын
Only the QBs the media like needs a real WR
@mariogallego5513
@mariogallego5513 2 ай бұрын
Closet rod? Hanging pole? Yeah idk what that bar is called
@CJStew06
@CJStew06 2 ай бұрын
The rack? Would be my best guess
@billmangan603
@billmangan603 2 ай бұрын
Florio talks in circles makes no sense
@vincentoravec261
@vincentoravec261 2 ай бұрын
That's his lawyerese coming out lol
@Hibye54321
@Hibye54321 2 ай бұрын
I understand as a giants fan that we definitely need a qb, but if we have an opportunity to trade with the vikings and get 2 1st rounders, I'd take that and get 2 day 1 starters.
@dirtyrandy2592
@dirtyrandy2592 2 ай бұрын
They will give Jones a WR1. -Daboll knows how much Diggs boosted Allen’s career.
@athens_1psvr31
@athens_1psvr31 2 ай бұрын
I’d go with Chris on them Changing the narrative.
@michaelicious
@michaelicious 2 ай бұрын
The New York Giants will struggle regardless of who they pick, but if their front office and coaching staff aimlessly waddle into next offseason with a mediocre veteran like Danny Dimes or Drew Lock, there is no shot John Mara will have the patience to keep them employed.
@deadondave9251
@deadondave9251 2 ай бұрын
All anyone has to do is watch the games. If you only go by tape and measure , then the combine , you're going down a losing road. I have Penix as my #2 guy. Now , he might not be , but he's a better #2 then Maye. Watching him play , throw , and scramble , especially under pressure (which you can count on in the real NFL) , you can see more upside. I hope he goes to the same team that drafts Odunze.
@bomat761
@bomat761 2 ай бұрын
The word you’re looking for was “Rack”.
@bobbyrobles358
@bobbyrobles358 2 ай бұрын
The giants CANNOT draft a QB with the team they have right now. There are bigger needs that they have to draft first, plus DJ isn't as bad as people say he is. I will die on this hill
@Thagomizer-U235
@Thagomizer-U235 2 ай бұрын
Since they gave up a 2nd rnd pick for Burns, they can't get QB, outside CB, and outside WR. So I think 1st rnd qb is out.
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 2 ай бұрын
It’s simple, the GIANTS aren’t a good team, they need more good players. Take the best player available at #6 and move forward.
@BitsToBytes92
@BitsToBytes92 2 ай бұрын
Hoping they find a way to get Rome Odunze and Penix!
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 2 ай бұрын
Me too low-key
@sheikantoniovonpeanutbutte9667
@sheikantoniovonpeanutbutte9667 2 ай бұрын
Don’t worry they’ll blow it
@rockydiblasio5723
@rockydiblasio5723 2 ай бұрын
Chill brother ☝🏼
@dodu8281
@dodu8281 2 ай бұрын
caleb williams or jaden daniels would be an upgrade for the giants at the qb position.... but both guys will be gone. so that would be very surprising if they draft another one in the 1st... if 4 qbs already gone in the top 5, means the giants will get a better player, wr, oline whatever
@luke7834
@luke7834 2 ай бұрын
"Those draft guys will die on that hill. A couple years ago it was Spencer Rattler" 🤣 Chris proving himself wrong in one sentence.
@joefatalooch8057
@joefatalooch8057 2 ай бұрын
Here’s the rub…If DJ shows no ability to throw the ball downfield and the Giants are stuck with him, they will regret not picking a QB. It’s risky to put all your eggs in the DJ or backup basket. If a QB slips or they really like one that is available I say they will draft a QB. Look at the other positions they have added. Other that a WR, they have done well. WRs are risky too so they are not an automatic especially if DJ can t get the ball to them.
@user-iq6cc3df3l
@user-iq6cc3df3l 2 ай бұрын
If the Giants have the sixth pick I think all the potentially great quarterbacks will be gone. You have Caleb then Jayden and after tat there’s a pretty big falloff although I think JJ McCarthy might be good to very good. I wouldn’t bet it either way with JJ although he did win a Championship I think. But I’ve never really been sold on Jones. Maybe where the Giants went wrong was giving Jones that extension. I can’t remember what the quarterback situation was like though with regard to talent when the Giants gave him that deal. He had just come off a road playoff win against the Vikings although, well, it was just the Vikings and they always lose on the playoffs. Florio ;-)
@cmgpower977
@cmgpower977 2 ай бұрын
Wr in the 1st, Pennix or Nix in 2nd????
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
If I were in charge with the giants I’m drafting Malik Nabers then offensive line in round 2 then CB in 3.
@franknoneofya9585
@franknoneofya9585 2 ай бұрын
Yeah you may need to go CB in round 2, the talent dwindles down pretty quickly after the top 50.
@joshuabunkers1494
@joshuabunkers1494 2 ай бұрын
I wish I could tolerate Mike Florio's high pitched voice because I love Chris Simms.
@Jerseyjoe69
@Jerseyjoe69 2 ай бұрын
Wide Receiver!!!
@thedereknelson
@thedereknelson 2 ай бұрын
Simms is in total denial
@r.e.goodrich759
@r.e.goodrich759 2 ай бұрын
Chris Simms putting in that good smoke screen work to let my Giants get Maye after all.
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 2 ай бұрын
You want maye
@franknoneofya9585
@franknoneofya9585 2 ай бұрын
Hell no, I'd rather have Penix, Rattler or Milton.
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
It seems like everyone is in love with Maye because of his body. He is 6’4’’ 228. Joe Burrow is 6’4’’ 221 when he came out. That’s a difference of 7 pounds. Josh Allen has an Amazing body. Big Ben did too. Yea Maye like Burrow have good football bodies but it’s nothing crazy.
@wallydollarlive
@wallydollarlive Ай бұрын
They might move up to 3 and get MHJ, if DJ doesn’t improve this year he’ll be cut and that big money can be used on a Free Agent in 25… Dak maybe?
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
The Giants have a good head coach. If they fire Daboll now or next year then I’m not going to follow the Giants anymore. They need a good OC to work with Dabol and the need a kick ass DC. Who is their DC? Is it still Wink Martidale? He is good. Oh and I forgot about Isiaha Simmons. You want to talk about a freak show he is that! 6’4’’ 240 lbs and runs 4.39!! They just need to use him properly. He is good as a SS, Nickel CB, and on 3 rd downs I would have him At OLB and rushing the passer a lot. To just stick him at MLB or even OLB is doing a disservice.
@cityhawk
@cityhawk 2 ай бұрын
In other words, if they can’t get Maye or Daniels they’re not reaching for McCarthy. It’s likely Harrison Jr., Nabers, or Alt. Plain and simple.
@KingPolo985
@KingPolo985 2 ай бұрын
Daniel Jones is going into his 6th season. He’s 22-36-1 as a starter, has never won the division, & snuck in the playoffs one year at 9-7. Giants may have a lot of holes in their roster, but QB might be their biggest one
@user-iq6cc3df3l
@user-iq6cc3df3l 2 ай бұрын
Nice stats. From what I remember a team - the Giants? - overreached during that draft with Jones as a pretty high pick. I certainly don’t think he’s a lousy quarterback but if you look at his skillset I think there’s nothing where you say, “Wow.” He’s s decent passer, he’s a decent runner, he’s a decent quarterback. Decent.
@garethjohnson8579
@garethjohnson8579 2 ай бұрын
I don't think he is. Ok he not a top tier QB but in a good team he'd be serviceable. I think there are soo many holes in this team throwing a rookie QB in to it wouldn't fix anything. Especially the ones that will be available. The top 3 QBs will most likely be gone, so you'll have Nix, Penix or McCarthy who will not work well on a bad team
@theshogunblaze3656
@theshogunblaze3656 2 ай бұрын
unfortunately the team around Danny Dimes is buns so they might as well build up the team for Arch Manning in a year or 2
@dilwalecricket
@dilwalecricket 2 ай бұрын
You forgot some stats Jones has played under three head coaches and four offensive coordinators while having limited weaponry and playing behind a typically suspect offensive line and being the most sacked QB since entering the league That’s with his escaping skills. I have been a giants fan for a long time and instead of blaming DJ for every how about we actually look at how the team has failed him too
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 2 ай бұрын
​@@dilwalecricketYou are now making excuses. Good quarterbacks can overcome bad teams and bad coaching. Daniel Jones is not a good quarterback. It's time to move on. Also, Drew Lock is definitely not the answer. He's actually worse. They may need to consider Jimmy G. At least he has experience and is serviceable. Otherwise, the Giants will have a new coach(Bill Belicheck) and general manager in 2025.
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
Sam Howell was supposed To be a top 5 pick by many people. I’m on record saying that Trevor Lawrence wasn’t a generational talent and would amount to much in the NFL. So far I’ve been right. He had 1 good season out of 3.
@Joe-xg3pj
@Joe-xg3pj 2 ай бұрын
The Giants have the 30th ranked OLINE. The 2 best linemen will be gone in the top 10. The Giants should pick one of them
@Forevermade32
@Forevermade32 2 ай бұрын
Simms carries the show
@iwj6329
@iwj6329 2 ай бұрын
Simms stays making excuses for Daniel Jones, it's amazing
@nocapyoulackn3594
@nocapyoulackn3594 2 ай бұрын
I think the giant's are doing just what Simms said... brought in Lock to push Jones and then apply smoke screens and throw out alot of mis information 😁In true Draft season fashion .
@JonathanSirico
@JonathanSirico 2 ай бұрын
Giants can stand pat at 6 and just draft QB3 or WR3. One of them will be on the board, and the Gmen need both positions badly.
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
The Giants have a legit good d line right now. Dexter Lawrence is the best NT in football. Brian Burns is a legit good pass rusher. Not great year but good on the way to great. And Kyvon Thinideaux will be helped by playing across from Burns. Thibideaux is good too. So if I’m the giants first I would have resigned Xavier McKinnly. They were dumb to let him walk.
@iraAlbucher
@iraAlbucher 2 ай бұрын
If this is the case. Why oh why did they pay DJ 160 Million ?
@kingdomcome1980
@kingdomcome1980 2 ай бұрын
Could Maye fall to the 2nd round?
@JoseRodrigues016
@JoseRodrigues016 2 ай бұрын
I find it really hard to believe that Daboll and Schoen will gamble being fired after the season without picking their QB. I can see a guy like Maye/JJ falling to #6 and the Giants taking him. Play Daniel Jones for half of the season to get the rookie settled and then let him have a go at it
@danielbadillo8334
@danielbadillo8334 2 ай бұрын
Yup, this might be their only opportunity to get their guy. I think if they like a guy more than the others and he's there at 4, they will try to make an aggressive move up to get him
@ryanguerin6556
@ryanguerin6556 2 ай бұрын
Honestly would only be at risk of being fired if they commit to a quarterback in this draft
@JoseRodrigues016
@JoseRodrigues016 2 ай бұрын
@@ryanguerin6556 they've been there for 3 years and the team still stinks. Hitting the jackpot like the Texans is their only way out. Nick Caserio was on a speed run to get fired and last draft made him one of the safest GMs in the league
@Matt90541
@Matt90541 2 ай бұрын
umm..if I was Mara drafting a QB would get them fired immediately. They just signed Jones and he is on the books $$$$ next year. Drafting a QB the year after you sign one to a big contract after a playoff year tells me the front office has no clue.
@romain8390
@romain8390 2 ай бұрын
That’s right… If I’m Brian Daboll, I’m not going out like Joe Judge, having been tasked with winning with the guy that I did not draft, who can’t stay healthy, and is inconsistent when he’s on the field… I don’t think that will be the way that I would want to go if I’m the head coach… Id draft my own guy easily
@rgem
@rgem 2 ай бұрын
Drew lock and give him a good o line
@regismonkton
@regismonkton 2 ай бұрын
I won't be surprised if NYG trades down with their first pick. Then I would think they would take a WR with their new first pick and a DB with their second pick. They might draft a QB, but I wouldn't be surprised if their owner was saying they want to draft a QB to cause teams to think they'd have to give up more for NYG's first pick.
@jamesspanglet6702
@jamesspanglet6702 2 ай бұрын
If the first 4 picks are QB's there may not be an opportunity to trade back.
@vernonperry2088
@vernonperry2088 2 ай бұрын
Everyone sucks around Daniel Jones but he’s good? Yeah sure🤣 he’s clearly not the guy but people want to keep doubling down on him. UNBELIEVABLE
@wwa9925
@wwa9925 2 ай бұрын
Hang your suits on a rack is the phrase Mike
@chiprenner
@chiprenner 2 ай бұрын
Shane & dabs will be here next year nothing short of going 2-15.why would they?
@sincerelythetrenches.7849
@sincerelythetrenches.7849 2 ай бұрын
If we are in any spot to take a QB meaning we trade up draft Maserati marv we need to draft him
@RoryKMusic
@RoryKMusic 2 ай бұрын
lol if the Giants draft a QB it will take a full locker room explosion and a 2-15 record for Daboll to be fired
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 2 ай бұрын
IF NY is going to draft a Quarterback it will be a second round project signing.
@RB-.-
@RB-.- 2 ай бұрын
If there’s an elite QB you know can be the answer, you take him. Giants have to get out of this mr nice guy loyal act.
@richardcoords1610
@richardcoords1610 2 ай бұрын
So the Giants trade this year's 2nd rounder and next year's as well, to move up to #4 and take JJ McCarthy who basically gets redshirted and doesn't really impact the 2024 season, and obviously neither does the 2024 2nd round pick which was used in the trade. The Giants 2024 season has no offensive allstars except Left Tackle Andrew Thomas and the Giants end up as a 6 win team, and Joe Schoen and Daboll are both fired to make room for Bill Belichick who gets to be GM and Head Coach. In the end, drafting QB in 2024 didn't buy Schoen/Daboll one extra second. Or, the current regime could draft a stud WR at #6 and another offensive weapon at #47 and end up as an 8-9 win team and save their jobs. Hmmm. What to do.
@szn1580
@szn1580 2 ай бұрын
Why is nobody talking about the possibility of giants getting Marvin Harrison jr?
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 2 ай бұрын
Because he's not the best WR in the draft he's the 3rd.
@szn1580
@szn1580 2 ай бұрын
@@larrylindgren9484lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@noone1704
@noone1704 2 ай бұрын
Penix is better than Danny Nickels will ever be, if it wasn't for the injury history he would be top 3 for sure
@jahprime6932
@jahprime6932 2 ай бұрын
Simms is putting his "insider" rep on the line over Maye.
@RB-.-
@RB-.- 2 ай бұрын
It’s like 65/35 Pro/Anti Maye at this point as more people watch the full games. He’s not alone.
@jahprime6932
@jahprime6932 2 ай бұрын
@RB-.- I get that. My point is that Simms makes it sound like his guys are all against Maye . So if he goes 2 or 3, what does that say about his sources?
@RB-.-
@RB-.- 2 ай бұрын
@@jahprime6932 Yeah I think he’s crazy to think Penix is going to get up in that mix and replace Maye lol
@jahprime6932
@jahprime6932 2 ай бұрын
@RB-.- Here's a little known fact. After thorough all 22 work, Simms rated Zach Wilson as his number 1 qb. A little known youtube channel named "thinking football" did the same. The difference is that they said Wilson is barely a 3rd round pick who can't throw with anticipation. I'm a Jets fan and not affiliated with them. His misses have outweighed his hits .
@craignakagawa9019
@craignakagawa9019 2 ай бұрын
The Giants are not taking a Quarterback, can we move on now?
@RZeroB
@RZeroB 2 ай бұрын
If they draft a QB and go 6-11 they are not losing there jobs that is a terrible point.
@yellowcake1320
@yellowcake1320 2 ай бұрын
We should draft a qb at 6, put him behind the worst OL in the NFL, , have 0 run support, garbage recievers and than constantly change the coaches.......wait a minute.......
@larrylong9367
@larrylong9367 2 ай бұрын
Girants at 6: Take Nabers or O'Doomsday ... Shortly Later: Trade up for Penix .... !
@chiprenner
@chiprenner Ай бұрын
they are sending out a smoke screen & fooled you.
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
I like Bo Nix more than Drake Maye. And I agree with Merrill Hodge when he said that Jaden Daniels is the best QB coming out this year. And that Drake Maye isn’t even a 1st round pick and Caleb Williams is not the best QB and Daniels is.
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 2 ай бұрын
I think its his size...Why is Maye not a frist round pick
@timotheetessier1058
@timotheetessier1058 2 ай бұрын
Any QB @ 6 is gonna be a stretch pick just like Daniel Jones, I don’t think any of these QBs in the draft have a higher swiping than Jones, give Jones a line & watch No QB looks good (stays healthy)with last years O-Line, come on!!!!
@theshogunblaze3656
@theshogunblaze3656 2 ай бұрын
atp the giants might as well start tanking for Arch Manning 😂
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 2 ай бұрын
Watch them take Bo Nix at 6 lol
@djcook
@djcook 2 ай бұрын
he’s better than daniel jones
@elilandrum2017
@elilandrum2017 2 ай бұрын
Giants can trade up with the cards if the vikings try to trade up to 5 and snipe their QB
@mikec6733
@mikec6733 2 ай бұрын
JJ might be Daniel Jones 2.0 I want a guy with some spidazz 😊
@Drop_Takers_Golf
@Drop_Takers_Golf 2 ай бұрын
Like Simms dying on a hill with Jones😂😂😂
@meechrawls
@meechrawls 2 ай бұрын
I just don’t understand how someone who knows football to his level can’t see how BAD dj is I don’t get it😭
@tfundermann
@tfundermann 2 ай бұрын
The fact he dies on the Jones hill at the same time as being adamant Maye will be a failure is always fun to watch. Chris is a good analyst a lot of the time, but he sure is stubborn with certain things and they blind him like crazy. Not saying I know better on Maye, but when 75% of the analysts think he is a top 3 QB in the draft I tend to think something might be there. Then Chris comes in saying he is a 3rd rounder that needs to sit for 3 years. But he also thought Kellen Mond was a great QB prospect, Matt Corral was the best QB in his class (now in the UFL), Josh Rosen as the 2nd best in his class, etc. Just like everyone else he has preferences and they cloud his judgement and misses more than he hits. As is the draft analyst business.
@ibekingape
@ibekingape 2 ай бұрын
I kinda get his take. He thinks the offense is so poor with the horrible offensive line and pathetic receiving options that Jones isn't the biggest problem and a new qb will be doomed without the pieces, especially when they won't be picking up a top gamechanging qb @meechrawls
@Drop_Takers_Golf
@Drop_Takers_Golf 2 ай бұрын
Jones isn’t the biggest problem I agree but he is a problem at the most important position and I don’t want Maye either another ACC quarterback who doesn’t process fast enough that’s a no also. I would be more upset if we reach and draft a quarterback just to say we did it.
@rfernandez1648
@rfernandez1648 2 ай бұрын
So you want the Giants to destroy DJ when they will probably have to start him, even if they get a QB. It’s like if the higher up were replacing Simms with Shay Shay, are they gonna start publicly/openly killing Simms? 🤦🏻
@ericnovella
@ericnovella 2 ай бұрын
Joe Alt Tackle at pick #6
@tsvimizrahi4667
@tsvimizrahi4667 2 ай бұрын
Drake Maye
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 2 ай бұрын
Or maybe check this out. Maybe they tied 3 million in incentives to Drew Lock for playing time BECAUSE Daniel Jones has been hurt A LOT over the last 2 years!! That’s obviously what it’s for. Because the Giants know there is a strong possibility that Jones can’t make it through an entire fucking year.
@tornado154
@tornado154 2 ай бұрын
hey florio why don't the giants just sign kaepernick? that's your solution to everything hahahah
@Jaisai-tt5ph
@Jaisai-tt5ph 2 ай бұрын
It has to be said Chris cannot escape if drake maye is an elite qb he can say all he want but he trashed the guy like he has something against him and it all comes from not scouting 2022 film.
@jamesspanglet6702
@jamesspanglet6702 2 ай бұрын
That would only be true if Maye is great right out of the gate. If Maye sits for a year or two and then becomes good, that would prove Chris right.
@Jaisai-tt5ph
@Jaisai-tt5ph 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesspanglet6702 not really cause he is saying that just to be safe that’s their safety blanket.
@jamesspanglet6702
@jamesspanglet6702 2 ай бұрын
@@Jaisai-tt5ph So yo know what he's thinking? You and Chris must be smoking the same stuff.
@Jaisai-tt5ph
@Jaisai-tt5ph 2 ай бұрын
Dude that’s the same thing everyone in draft community says when they don’t like the guy nobody gets it correct In qb evaluations Chris is pretty good in cb and wr rankings
@timflint25
@timflint25 2 ай бұрын
They better pick another top OL. I truly don't care if he ends up as backup. It's 5-man unit, and they need depth. I literally don't care if Jones stinks it up this year. If he does they can pick somebody else next year.
@peteg2715
@peteg2715 2 ай бұрын
They should pick a guard on day 2 but definitely not OT at 6. That would be crazy
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 2 ай бұрын
Drake Maye=Zach Wilson...
@henrywallacesghost5883
@henrywallacesghost5883 2 ай бұрын
Danny Dimes is the Giants past,present and future. He will have a solid year and the Giants will re-sign him and continue in mediocrity for years to come.
@TheJoseXperience
@TheJoseXperience 2 ай бұрын
Grab nabers it’s not difficult at all
@briankelly7978
@briankelly7978 2 ай бұрын
Chris wants Maye to be bad sooooo bad it’s weird
@tyleraguilar2474
@tyleraguilar2474 Ай бұрын
As a Giants fan I pray we don’t get Bill Belicheck if we have a losing season. He will ruin our franchise for even longer
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 2 ай бұрын
Okay, I love Phil Simms and I try to respect Chris but he really does come off as completely clueless a lot. Locke is going to push Daniel Jones? Tyrod did that, and won. He showed more ability than Jones and that helped Jones out in no way at all. Drafting a QB could get them fired, but starting and overpaying the division's worst QB won't?
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 2 ай бұрын
Tyrod did push Jones git injured twice
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 2 ай бұрын
@@jameshollister8294 he showed more ability than Jones ever has
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 2 ай бұрын
This QB class will probably go down as one of the biggest flops in history. This isn't 1983. I will laugh when Spencer Rattler is the only 1 still playing 16 years from now(as a career backup)...
@MD-es3rv
@MD-es3rv 2 ай бұрын
If they really like a guy they have to get that guy. IF not then you get BPA which would be receiver, but make no mistakes.. if they miss the playoffs bc of jones performance, or becuase he's injured again its almost a lock they're gone.. They have an excuse and history on their side with mara possibly learning a lesson you can't just jump ship with HCs and GMS right after drafting a guy IE Daniel Jones.... So, i get what chris is saying, but i think drafting a qb works more in their favor than trying to win now with jones and losing another playoff year with him.. its almost expected they won't with a starting rookie QB.. but we'll see. Look at manning and coughlin he kept those two together it worked.. Daniel jones has gone through so many coaches and he's simply just damaged goods at this point
@GRD211
@GRD211 2 ай бұрын
Remember when Simms said Zach Wilson was the clear no.1 QB in that draft? I think Maye will be fine.
@kapsisback8893
@kapsisback8893 2 ай бұрын
How about the other times he’s hits on quarterbacks?? Only Zach Wilson u can remember
@GRD211
@GRD211 2 ай бұрын
@@kapsisback8893 how about Matt Corral being a 1st round worthy QB?
@olivermichalak7556
@olivermichalak7556 2 ай бұрын
@@GRD211keep ignoring the ones he hit on buddy whatever fits your narrative
@CtrlDGame
@CtrlDGame 2 ай бұрын
you sit on TV over 200+ times every year for 5+ years and make projections on these College kids and let’s see how much times you’re ‘correct’ and ‘incorrect’ on your picks.
@GRD211
@GRD211 2 ай бұрын
​@@CtrlDGame he does it for free as well. What a hero.
@itsabulldogsworld
@itsabulldogsworld 2 ай бұрын
Simms really don't wanna let DJ go 🤣 it's over the guy got 3 major injuries in 2 years. And he's GARBAGE.
@daya8270
@daya8270 2 ай бұрын
DJ is Dave Brown reincarnated, please he is definitely a huge part of the problem. It’s 6 years move on already!
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