New YouTube Policy May Wipe Out Gun Channels

[@4MRRanch]

If you haven’t, make sure you follow me on Rumble. This will be my backup platform should KZbin give me the boot.

[@OHWRDAMI1]

Gun owners, patriots, protectors of ALL Amendments lend me your ear. We need to move off of KZbin. Stop making excuses, make it happen. The only thing worse than government censorship is corporate censorship. By staying here on KZbin we are literally feeding the system that hates us. We need to take our money and our influence and move away from "the biggest". GASP you say. I want to be an influencer and live off ad revenue. If you want to do this for a living become creative in your financing and get off the teet of a corporation that is beholden to people who don't make them money. Move away and don't look back. We can do this. Move your content. Its going to suck for a while but anything worth doing does. We need our own space. They don't want us and they treat us with unfair policies. IT IS TIME TO LEAVE THIS ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.

[@gatormcklusky5850]

I was just gonna say, if in fact they do end up putting an end to it, the G un community can move to rumble for the most part or when needed. love the video's!✌

[@Tee-ina-Skee-Mask]

i really wish there was a platform that could compete with youtube, everyone is so sick of their censoring bs

[@backwoodscountry7920]

Rumble is the new platform

[@DUD3_BR0]

I second that, rumble is the new platform.

[@williamfenton6562]

There is, it's called Pepperbox tv

[@demonicwolf69]

pepperbox tv were demo ranch and those guys have gone 8$ mo i barely notice 8$ i spent that in buying coffee.

[@gatormcklusky5850]

@@demonicwolf69 i'm not big on being forced to go behind a paywall. sure $8 isn't much but , it just gives me a bad taste.

[@willthrill94]

Dear KZbin, I value this content

[@4MRRanch]

Thank you

[@kerrystanger5324]

Meanwhile on my kids children’s videos, KZbin puts teen rated to R-rated music videos for ads. Crooked ass google.

[@kaseyboles30]

Damn I must have started add blocking before they started the adds with nudity and foul language. Half tempted to turn it back off to see the nudity.

[@angryveteran8585]

The people who want to be left alone will always lose to the people who want to win, unfortunately

[@EngineeredMogster]

Thanks for stepping up man, we’re here to support you and the rest of the community. KZbin is making a grave mistake here. Best channel out there.

[@4MRRanch]

I appreciate your support as always

[@Truth-Justice-Freedom]

Typical tyrannical censorship 😢

[@4MRRanch]

Sadly

[@jonathanguzman3044]

That’s American capitalism for you. The only thing that matters is the profit motive

[@Demo_Camera_Guy]

Love your channel man, been watching for a while now and you've helped inform some personal purchase decisions of mine when it comes to IR devices. Keep it up if you can. I just wanted to lend my kind of two cents to your note about wishing that bigger channels would advocate for changes against these policies as I do have a little bit of insight to this. These policies were enacted by YT with no input by anyone with any larger following. DR, along with all the big names, were "sat down" on a call and were told what was happening. There was no room or opportunity for discussion. When some in the room did step up to question or comment, GT and BH specifically, the response was "thank you for your input, but this is the move that YT is making". The feeling we had after the call was that the real decision makers sent some peons with no real power to have that meeting with everyone, they really didn't care to hear what we had to say about it. My feeling is that we are in the same boat as you as far as what we know is going to happen. We still aren't sure how to proceed, and we don't know what the future looks like for us on this platform either.

[@4MRRanch]

I’m happy to hear my channel has been useful to you. I plan to keep it going as long as YT lets me. I also really appreciate you sharing insights from the bigger guys. I’m glad you guys were at least somewhat informed, albeit without any real say in the matter. FYI, I’m based out of San Antonio, so if you guys ever wanna collab on anything I’d love the opportunity to work with you. I’ve been trying to network with as many like minded individuals as I can, especially if we collectively need to move platforms for our content.

[@thatguy3139]

I love how a lot of gun channels will still have advertisements on them but KZbin doesn't pay any of them anymore. It's a money grab

[@ecobasetech4558]

KZbin is going to end up cutting their own throat. If the 2A channels that I watch disappear, then I will stop watching YT altogether.

[@jho7659]

@@ecobasetech4558 yall are such an insignificant group no one will even notice if you all disappear

[@drakecarter1780]

​@jho7659 agreed. This is about protecting child. Plus, none of these channels should be getting mad that ads are playing over their videos and not getting paid. They are using the YT platform. YT has every right to put ads over any channel without compensation.

[@Kodaiva]

@@drakecarter1780 it doesnt protect any child

[@anotherguy9402]

​@@jho7659that's awfully ignorant. That's like saying "your right to choose your job/career is such a small part of the legal system it wouldn't matter if the government chooses for you instead". I bet you think your open minded because you ignorantly follow the crowd and remain closed minded to opposing views 😂

[@TheGearTester]

Great video! Thanks for the information. I find myself in a similar position. Really wish KZbin was more “open” and “accepting.”

[@4MRRanch]

It sucks. Wish it wasn’t this way.

[@danhay2505]

1:40 geez… That would mean Forgotten Weapons’ mechanics of the various guns, would also get flagged…

[@4MRRanch]

Yep, a number of ways this will slowly kill channels

[@twinbee4243]

Just tell KZbin, Go Woke??? Then Go Broke!!

[@4MRRanch]

Unfortunately they make plenty of money from woke channels and may not need 2A channels

[@twinbee4243]

@@4MRRanch exactly! That's why KZbin are beginning to get broker and broker now. The more people stopped using KZbin the more money they will lose

[@kaseyboles30]

It's getting clearer and clearer You Tube expect it's content to be only what they want and provided for nearly free.

[@DBCooper81]

Just subbed, your videos will still be in my feed....hopefully. Love your NV aiming laser content.

[@4MRRanch]

Worse case just be sure to manually stop by the channel from time to time to see what’s in the works. I appreciate your support.

[@StacyTheDude]

You have been my greatest source of information A2 wise. I will be super upset I have learned so much from your torture videos and just your basic reviews of stuff. You do stuff that I don’t see too many other people doing and you do very thorough reviews with the products

[@4MRRanch]

I really appreciate you sharing that you’ve found my videos useful. Rest assured, I’ll be on the platform until they remove me by force. You may just have to manually keep tabs on my content.

[@WOLFN8TR]

Your channel is one of the better ones I follow. You have potential to be one of the best in my opinion. KZbin’s new policy changes are dumb and they will loose viewers and it does nothing to keep the “Kids” safe! 🙄

[@4MRRanch]

I really appreciate you holding my content in high regards. I’ll be around until they don’t let me.

[@cerebralfirearms]

I feel this video brother. It’s been hurting lately!

[@4MRRanch]

It sucks

[@andyprairiedog]

I also am planning on a Rumble account in the future. We shall see, my friend. I shall be following you over there this weekend.

[@4MRRanch]

Appreciate you as always Andy

[@AMJ1S18]

Such a shame man. I started my own guntubing channel (different channel than this) a few months ago and it has been fun. I have gotten more revenue from amazon affiliate links than from KZbin ad revenue, and for them to potentially take that away from me and give me channel strikes is absolutely ridiculous. I hope it doesn't kill your channel man, keep up the grind, even if it means we all shift to a new platform (I'm hoping Elon can improve X's video capabilities, that could be a great place to migrate to). Cheers!

[@4MRRanch]

Yep, could really kill revenue streams for most creators in the space and limit growth and content.

[@justinblower7598]

Thank you for sharing

[@4MRRanch]

Just trying to spread the word. Thanks for watching.

[@360TacticalSolutions]

It’s getting tough out here trying to create content not being one of the big 5 channels

[@4MRRanch]

@@360TacticalSolutions yep. Very discouraging, but I think that’s what they want

[@360TacticalSolutions]

@@4MRRanch oh its 100% part of their plan. They just make it harder and harder to follow their rules and continue to afford to make this kind of content till you just give up. The other thing I feel is discouraging is the lack of support within the community. I saw Hickok45 do a couple videos recently talking about having to take down videos because of the new policy and then how they had spoken at length with their dedicated account manager and a handful of other channels and come up with a way to continue to make their content with support from their sponsors. Thats a big one right now is potentially getting your channel killed because you have a sponsor who sells any kind of 2A products. It sounds like Hickok and some of the top tier channels have worked out how to keep making their content without fear of channel strikes but who knows exactly what their game plan is. It really feels like there isn't a strong alliance within the community. Any one of the top channels could make a video giving advice and guidance to the rest of us but I guess at the end of the day it's every man for themself. The only way firearm content is safe is when we all make sure each other is safe on the platform and we all have followings that show YT that this content has value and is important to people that use their platform.

[@Ripcord10]

4MR for the win

[@catranger01]

WTF! The new rules are retroactive? That is fucking insane.

[@jonathanguzman3044]

A strong example of America’s double standards when it comes to guns. Gun culture is huge and Owning guns is part of America’s identity yet the police can execute you in the streets if they suspect you have a gun on you. Showing or talking about guns is seen as inappropriate or controversial yet companies advertise them and make billions of dollars selling them.

[@johnroper3077]

It's about time to sh*t can KZbin and make that move to Rumble. It's REALLY startin' to suck here anyway.

[@billycarr1254]

Can petitions help? Lawsuits?

[@frankbrowning328]

As bad as it will be if YT regulates gun channels to the point where they can’t exist, it is also the opportunity for other platforms to absorb these channels where there is very little restraint put onto creators. At that point YT can become the stupid animal tricks platform it wants to be, and it can lose all the revenue from the gun video providers

[@bigbraddad718]

I've purchased a lot of my gear through content creators' sites and I don't mind paying more for the same product on their site as long as I can get behind their views. I don't know your views but I know your scientific method and I can get behind that. I bought a IS-EG ngal based off your videos and if you had it on your site I can tell you I would've given you that sale.

[@4MRRanch]

I appreciate your supportive mindset to creators in this space. I wish I had affiliate links to Invisblesight, I would have made a killing lol. But the guy makes a good product for a fair price. Just wish his lead times were better.

[@bigbraddad718]

@@4MRRanch cue "Everybody wants you" by Billy Squier

[@MariaVazquez-du3st]

Maybe we should regain control of our media. We should not be permitting media to be an oppressive force. And bring newspapers back too!

[@Partimepeasant]

Not the end of gun channels. The end of You Tub. I'm waiting to see the change on Rumble. I'm weaning away from You Tub because of policy's that I am not a fan of. This is not just 2a.

[@waynehearst317]

The problem is, you have to be logged in - have a KZbin account - to see the age of your viewers.

[@4MRRanch]

Yes, which is why people not logged on or that don’t have accounts will no longer see the gun videos, making a drastic drop in numbers to the gun channels. I know a lot of people who watch without accounts or without being signed in.

[@thunder_mountain_muleys]

GunTube anyone???? Some firearm enthusiast has the skillz and funds to put together a dedicated firearms video app. 🙏🇺🇲

[@GMGFORCE1]

Guess the meet the “Drag Team” button at the top nav is ok then? huh

[@4MRRanch]

That’s the kind of crap that drives me nuts. Their priorities are off

[@Ultrajamz]

@@4MRRanchthey are groveling to senators to avoid being regulated in any way that matters. Rumble? Odysee?

[@GMGFORCE1]

@@4MRRanch Clearly, especially regarding children if that’s their premise.

[@con10der]

Absolutely correct it's grooming at it's finest.

[@Klobberkrew]

Can I ask why you haven’t kept up on your rumble channel?

[@4MRRanch]

Because I get about 10 views per video there. I will start uploading my videos there as a backup soon

[@Klobberkrew]

@@4MRRanch so did your KZbin at one point. Just keep it updated and current and mention it to people.

[@l.robertvandyke4398]

That will be the day i delete you tube. Sounds like i will waste less time on my phone now! Gather emails to contact us after the shutdown.

[@4MRRanch]

I hope it doesn’t come to that, but it wouldn’t completely surprise me

[@CwxwYT]

KZbin is killing itself 😂 sucks that this is the main platform but maybe just maybe we can all get over to pepperboxTV and enjoy the real “KZbinrs”

[@vilicus77]

KZbin is actually doing great financially.

[@PythonVs1]

I just started my channel and it has been growing nicely and now KZbin is doing this b.s? 😢

[@4MRRanch]

They’ve been slowly making it harder and harder for gun channels. 3-5 years ago, there was almost no BS

[@Eagle52525]

I’m sorry, how is it legal for KZbin to enforce retroactively? These videos require investment on the part of the KZbinr. There are whole channels dedicated to DIY. If someone is operating under a certain understanding of what can be posted they put investment into posting the allowed content. Stripping that away retroactively results in damages not to mention if the channel receives 3 strikes. I say class action lawsuit.

[@4MRRanch]

You’re completely right. I think if they were to take a bunch of channels down it would probably lead to a suit

[@vanhaus5022]

You Tube sucks they need to be sued

[@Town101]

Sparky, a company gets to make the rules of what they will show. Go read a book on US law.

[@Annoyingdog37]

For what? Doing what they want on their platform?

[@4MRRanch]

@@Annoyingdog37 technically as a publisher you can pick and choose, because then you’re legally liable for content. If you claim to be a platform and deny liability, you aren’t then supposed to act as a publisher and be selective.

[@Eagle52525]

They are acting as both a platform and publisher

[@brettwillett4655]

We do not follow regulations. They are not laws.

[@AlphabetBoisAreSmelly]

Yt unsubbed me apparently. Shocker

[@4MRRanch]

You mean you subbed to my channel and came back and were no longer subscribed? That’s a huge issue if so

[@tomisamish]

Hi ho, hi ho, it's to rumble we go. To post gun memes and pew pew things hi ho, hi ho hi ho ...

[@andrewclarke5946]

Have you looked at starting an alternate video platform?

[@4MRRanch]

There are many, but none with compatible traffic. My videos on rumble get around 10 views lol

[@ClayCastleberry]

Im praying people get tired of people telling them what they can and cant see! Lets ditch the phones and go back to NEXTEL 🥳

[@Alloutairguns]

Wow I wonder if this will carry into airguns as well.

[@4MRRanch]

Not as soon as firearms. Air guns aren’t regulated goods in they eyes of KZbin

[@Alloutairguns]

@@4MRRanch shit they have the same optics and sticks and grips seen people with links on this stuff for years

[@Alloutairguns]

@@4MRRanch I’m very sorry to hear this left wing ass 💩

[@jeffhuntley2921]

Riding dirty’s channel got a video hit for talking about a magazine extension on a S&W pistol. It’s going to get weird

[@4MRRanch]

The scary part is it can happen anytime. I got a random channel strike for a video that had been up for a year with 120,000 views. It was a follow up scope review..

[@yourangerfuelsme]

interaction

[@4MRRanch]

Appreciate you

[@TnTriton225]

Well if KZbin boots most our channels we watch, maybe rumble will start to skyrocket when we leave youtube.

[@4MRRanch]

I’d be ok with that. Rumble isn’t as user friendly but I’m sure it would improve if more people went that way

[@thomas_jay]

Hmmm, I wonder if YT will remove videos promoting violent movies from Hollywood, such als Deadpool, Aliens, Star Wars, etc. or video games likes FPS and the like. Maybe we should start actions against these videos clips and crash the algorithm?

[@4MRRanch]

Nope they said that Hollywood movies or “works of art” and video games are ok

[@weixinlin446]

I subbed to your rumble account.

[@4MRRanch]

Thanks!

[@Seniorsauvage]

That’s the goal they hate us

[@TDOC.99]

Damn shame. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later

[@4MRRanch]

Hopefully it’s not as bad as we hope. But I’ve talked to multiple creators and we are all in the dark on how extreme the changes will or won’t be

[@Seanenanigans]

Anyone suing them over this?

[@TedGoebel]

KZbin, your policy will cause a mass loss of viewers including me!

[@YouTubeStat]

Cancel your KZbin premium accounts and email then saying why! Already have myself...

[@jakemiles8070]

ATF IS GAY!

[@4MRRanch]

Facts

[@jefferyadams3227]

Are you on Rumble?

[@4MRRanch]

Yes, follow me there as a backup!

[@AlaricCrow]

John Lovell has maybe created the solution for you. Warrior Poet Society Network, and new video steaming app specifically for people like us. This might be the future for modern content creators who are censored from sharing their passions like you

[@MowersNBlowers]

I don’t think you read the policy yourself! Nothing about red dots. Accessories on how to make it automatic and ghost guns etc. put out true info bro.

[@4MRRanch]

That’s the latest update. There IS a list that specifically talks about optics as well.. instead of accusing me of not putting out true info perhaps read a little further..

[@jimmypace6746]

Then I will quit watching KZbin!!!

[@qthestorm_patriot]

Agreed!

[@YasilTorvanna]

No you wont tuff guy. Sit back down

[@rickykurtz516]

I will check out patron . Please check out Rublem Ricky from IBM

[@4MRRanch]

I’m on rumble as a backup

[@vanhaus5022]

Hopefully Trump will open a channel like Truth Social and do away with You Tube.. They don’t want to age restrict they are left wing liberal… PERIOD…

[@Town101]

LOL. Ignorance. Truth social is a scam and the " libs" are Americans.

[@sxrry.8206]

LMAOOOO

[@vilicus77]

Right, because Truth Social is doing so well.

[@MowersNBlowers]

Bro demoranch Brandon Herrera and Hickok have videos out about it. Also just don’t do how to assemble, and automatic weapons! That’s not that hard!

[@Keepinitmovin-tw7dr]

F..k KZbin

[@brandonw4866]

Commenting for the algorithm. F* the bs rules.

[@4MRRanch]

Appreciate you

[@etienneetienne4752]

Sue them.

[@TerriblyTactical]

Only the ones that only care about money

[@4MRRanch]

Unfortunately it takes money to produce high quality content, so cutting the revenue stream will impact the quality and quantity of projects to take on

[@top-lul7540]

Then we need tho boycot yt

[@charlesfreeman1224]

The Google Gestapo strikes again.

[@davidkim9898]

liked commented subbed for good luck

[@4MRRanch]

Much appreciated

[@beardedrancher]

Ugetube and rumble

[@Talhoffer317]

He wants to cry about youtube policy but wont post on Rumble in a timely manner. SEE YA!!!! ON BOTH PLATFORMS YA TRADER!!

[@StephenSweeney-r5q]

Dude why are arsonists and barnyard sex addicts not complaining. Remember the line about shouting fire in a crowded room , that means more in today’s political climate than ever before . What if the guy who nicked trump was turned around or influenced by socal media.

[@444MarlinSS]

Maybe Elon Musk will buy YT

[@sonnymc8456]

I just added you on my rumble account.

[@4MRRanch]

Much appreciated

[@Town101]

Maybe, just maybe the gun channels could promote GUN SAFETY, instead of gun coolness since the NRA will not do that sh*t anymore. Good, screw the channels that want to sell you stuff. 4MR ranch, THIS is your chance to teach safety and not worry about getting a strike. Just food for thought.

[@4MRRanch]

Well two things to address that note.. the first being that I personally like to look up for reviews anytime I have to spend over about $100 to know if I’m getting the best bang for my buck. So not being able to review things would eliminate information to people. I can’t speak for everyone’s channel, but I try to promote items that performed well enough that I would consider buying it. So in that case, it’s a way to generate some funds to support future reviews and content. People in this space do this as a job, and have mouths to feed. Commission on sales is one way to try and keep food on the table, and is ethical if the product you’re telling people is worth the money isn’t junk.