Deng’s Hidden Political Revolution | The Economics of China Episode 2

[@rtan1095]

Deng policy works during his time when US and global environment was conducive to China growth but no more when CN has reach a certain development stage where the west starts to feels the threat and try to checkmate CN growth… Thus Xi policy suit his time and global political. environment.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Against the backdrop of the Cold War with the former Soviet Union. But it should be credited as well with the rest of the Eastern bloc and a few friendly Western nations like Switzerland, France, Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway for laying the foundation of Chinese industrialization in the 50s and 60s

[@Aramsa-Khan]

Professor Ang's narrative on President Xi is not quote accurate.

[@momo_san1980]

I've been in China for 18 years. I must say that the air quality, water cleanliness at the river near by my home, public safety, and public good have all been greatly improved. There used be polluted days covered with smog, the river stank, parents afraid of kidnappers, etc... It takes a strong leader to clean these things up.

[@jaytso1883]

Sadly, "strong leadership" is used deliberately by the West to demonise as "autocratic", "oppression" etc ......

[@minosknossos]

In big cities, yes.

[@ArchsStanton]

@@minosknossos : *GO lookup "katherine's journey to the east"..........*

[@horridohobbies]

China is democratic but not in the Western liberal fashion. Why should democracy only be defined in terms of multiple political parties vying for power at the ballot box? China's democracy is consultative in nature rather than switching out political parties that fail to perform. The government solicits feedback and input from the people. China's democracy is meritocratic rather than based on popularity contests known as elections. These popularity contests rarely produce good leaders. China's democracy has proven to be very effective and well-supported. According to *Latana's Democracy Perception Index 2024,* 79% of Chinese regard their country as democratic while only 57% of Americans and 55% of British do. According to the *Edelman Trust Barometer 2024,* 85% of Chinese trust their government while only 40% of Americans and 30% of British do. According to the *Open Society Barometer 2023,* 76% of Chinese trust their politicians while only 29% of Americans and 20% of British do. According to *a study from Harvard Kennedy School in 2020,* 95.5% of Chinese are satisfied with their government. We cannot call China's government "autocratic." This is manifestly incorrect.

[@rtan1095]

A point if endorsement - the coming US president election (if Trump is nominated by Republican) is between an aged President who hardly can walk and another convicted felon candidate is this the best US liberal model Can produced???

[@horridohobbies]

@@rtan1095 It's astonishing to me that the most powerful country in the world is led by either a dementia-ridden flesh puppet or a narcissistic, bombastic clown. US democracy is a farce.

[@lipsach]

This.

[@dreamadventure8220]

Lol 😂😂😂

[@horridohobbies]

@@dreamadventure8220 Of course, you can't refute anything in my comment. 🤣

[@jaytso1883]

It's not Autocracy vs Democracy, but rather Meritocracy vs Plutocracy

[@kenzyisaac1913]

nice insight

[@horridohobbies]

All political systems evolve. The US political system evolved. China's political system evolved. Today, China's model of governance is much improved. Thanks to China's capable and intelligent leadership (based on meritocracy rather than popularity contests), China's spectacular growth was based on decades of good policies executed with great efficiency without hindrance. The Western model of governance has resulted in economic and political turmoil which we've all witnessed these past several decades. Ergo, China's model of governance is superior to the West's.

[@carrier_pigeon214]

I'm hardly anything even remotely close to a China expert but it does seem that your argument over the course of this video series is aimed at discrediting Xi. I'm not saying that's wrong (because honestly, I'm not educated enough on the topic to know) but it does stand out to me.

[@robertseaborne5758]

The original intention of economic thinking was about the wellbeing of the people , nowadays (especially within Liberal democracies) it is more about the well being of corporations. At least socialism with Chinese characteristics is retaining some of the original intention of economics.

[@parhhesia]

Fair analysis, but it doesn’t incorporate the changing geopolitical context from Deng to Xi. Western leaders liked Deng; on the cusp of Xi's ascension, China had grown so much that the USA decided to contain it (ie, the 'pivot to Asia'). It follows that a more defensive, unified Chinese political leadership was necessary to meet this threat. No matter how China is governed, the USA will be hostile unless it has a puppet in charge.

[@sinsinchandra3575]

You need political stability at top level and social cohesiveness at the other end for a big country and large population like China. Without the above 2, they won't success in revitalising the country and they know it very well. Authoritarian or capitalism are not that relevant. To paint them with authoritarian or capitalism or which one is better is just missing the point or even misleading.

[@ozychk21]

Thanks for putting these excellent videos online 🙏🏽

[@cslim9231]

thank you Professor ANg and iNet for the insightful presentation which provides a provocative view on the subject matter.

[@jeanpaul2628]

This is a masterclass

[@waywalker170]

I wonder what you're omitting Doctor Ang

[@ale.channel]

Democracy does not make a country advanced, instead it causes division, because each group has different goals. We can see our country, Indonesia. The capitalist country helped Soeharto become president. Establishing power for 30 years. For 30 years our country achieved good economic growth, although it was not evenly distributed. After 30 years, according to their policy, we had to become a democracy through the 2002 law. But after almost 25 years there were no clear results.

[@1991laconich]

Francis Fukujama quoted in a vieo produced by INET? Odd

[@skkhoo62]

Ok, episode 1, I finished watching because I wanted to learn about this aunty but I can just barely finish watching episode 2. I don't think I'll be watching further episodes.

[@GlobeHackers]

Excellent lecture; it's informative and easy to comprehend. I don't think many people in the world wrestle with the definition of democracy. If we think democracy is voting, we have abdicated our responsibility as citizens. Leaders must be responsible for the significant investment made in affecting the narrative.

[@Aramsa-Khan]

China is facing the US aggressive move. China must remain strong

[@pranavmanie1479]

Ang is always excellent. I don't agree completely with her on China's democratic characteristics under Deng, but this is great myth breaking. I have a feeling China will also likely lead the solar industrial revolution - which we desperately need to combat climate change.

[@ryanmckenna2047]

Deng seems quite democratic

[@simplycf3010]

You people are just unwilling to admit that so called authoritarianism is not as bad as you believe. Like seriously, the most prosperous civilizations in ancient times were all authoritarian. Even if the times are different why do you think humanity should completely dismiss this model?

[@sidharthar567]

Waiting 🔥

[@leoxing7697]

Common sense and culture is more important than any amount of democracy.

[@anti-genocide]

The soviet union wasn't a dictatorship as you can easily figure it out from the word "union" . it's a popular democracy or an illiberal popular democracy !

[@roc7880]

in this case Nazi Germany was a socialist country because it had the name in the title.

[@anti-genocide]

@@roc7880 It's not about the title . they were basically republics under the soviet union just like the states in the US . A popular democracy always require a one party and one ideology that dominates the state and it's much progressive than a representative democracy , I think American political culture is so poor in that regard

[@peaceleader7315]

Our socialism_communism dream is and will be dominant.. hmmmm vanguard nations ... Cuba 🇨🇺 China 🇨🇳 Vietnam 🇻🇳 Russia 🇷🇺 south Africa 🇿🇦 and Argentina 🇦🇷 will uphold our principal no what ever the storm...hmmmm.

[@ablefamilee6538]

🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼

[@gilberttello08]

👍👍

[@tonysia6474]

❤❤❤👍👍👍

[@emiliobertrandbungegonzale9961]

neoliberal worldview

[@dmoneytron]

This is “sophisticated” as neoliberal analysis goes.

[@SillyLittleAshTree]

Perhaps each leader has embodied a sort of Chinese Zeitgeist, according to the needs at the time.

[@arthurhwang117]

Her bias is becoming more and mire evident.

[@dbmorganizing]

Sincerely quoting Fukuyama who has been wrong about every prediction shows the level of propaganda this series will be

[@tonytan6547]

The speaker has a subtle western slant

[@SillyLittleAshTree]

This far, I've found the slant acceptable enough to have shared the videos. I've been sure to footnote them, though.

[@stepmaster9988]

Subtle how 😅

[@bdmajuqwana4050]

She's dancing to a familiar tune

[@oxvendivil442]

Mao was not perfect, Deng was not perfect, Xi was not perfect but I'm pretty sure future generations will hold Deng dearly and never forget him, he will be remembered alright! for Xi? I'm not so sure, he had a lot of promise but he squandered it! he should have respected the term limits but he didn't, he got too full of himself, he probably has a Messiah complex?!

[@srikumarmondal3294]

If free market is "democracy" then how come communism is "dictatorship"?