I’ve Studied The Trinity For 35 Years. Here Are The Results

[@RyanG3105]

Brother, I never cease to be amazed at how kind you are to opposing beliefs and how well you articulate the views. I never hesitate to share your videos with others, and I really appreciate your time spent!

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

I appreciate that

[@DamanCross]

I totally agree with the statement of people trying to put a person in a box, especially these days. Many people are also to quickly pass judgement and all Christians know what the Holy Scriptures say about that. Even though we are not from the same denomination, I truly enjoy your sermons and I consider you a highly respectable, knowledgeable and humble Brother in Christ. Great summation. Thank you for sharing. May God Bless you!

[@mckingahlbartolome6797]

So many insights right there pstr steve. God bless.

[@kennethwassner184]

Thank you for the great word, Pastor Waldron!

[@samshields1116]

As someone who has been studying the Godhead for the past year or so it’s either Oneness of bust for me you’re absolutely right there are sooo many different models of the trinity it’s hard to even have a conversation with some of them and know what they are talking about Thank you for your videos I’d love to see more I keep watching I hope I don’t watch all of them too soon 😂😂God bless and thank you

[@articsoldier06]

Great teaching. Thank you 🙏

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Glad it was helpful!

[@SOJCSTREETSMINISTRY]

Salute and great video my brother 🫡📖

[@MK-wh1pi]

As a pastor myself, I have studied this. I respect you and appreciate your videos! I do disagree but we can still have fellowship around the clear message of the Gospel in the true Spirit of God. The Bible clearly teaches a Triune God, from Genesis to Revelation. There is only one God but three manifest persons. Take the baptism of Jesus for a classic, solid instance. The Son is in the river. The Father speaks out of Heaven. The Spirit comes down like a dove. That’s three persons of the Godhead!

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

I’ve done so many videos on just that topic. God is Omnipresent. He can obviously be multiple places at once.

[@TheReader6]

According to the Westminster confession of faith, if you come across an unclear passage of scripture, use clear passages as interpretation. Dt 6:4 seems fairly clear.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

I agree.

[@1GodInJesusChrist]

Brother, Praise the LORD. Love your videos. I do have a question, how would you explain Hebrews 10:5? An answer would be of much help. God bless.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

You know, that’s probably a longer answer than I can answer adequately in the comment section. Let me try and put that in the chute for a video. Great idea!

[@1GodInJesusChrist]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa that would be awesome. I was wondering if maybe you’ve already made a video on this. But if you would make one explaining this, it would be great. Thank you Pastor, God bless you and your ministry.

[@Christian-qs3pi]

Excellent informative Video, thank you Pastor. Please can you recommend a Book ,and Bible that I could learn more on oneness ? By book, I mean one that is is not too theologically deep,hard to understand.Thank You, God Bless 🙏

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Oneness of God by David Bernard

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Premier Study Bible

[@Christian-qs3pi]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Thank You very much, and thanks for taking the time. To answer .I appreciate how busy you are.God Bless 🙏

[@TobyQuan]

I have studied the Trinity for 35 years, and here are my results: I wasted 35 years of my life.

[@josephjones4207]

whatsoever ye do, may prosper both in the flesh and spirit; in faith and love; in the Son, and in the Father, and in the Spirit” ignatius

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Have studied ignatius textual-criticality? And are you sure that’s not an interpolation?

[@godsfamily6627]

The best way to understand Trinity is marriage...the two shall be one...yet we know from our human experience the two though one are still two distinct persons. so, with God who are 3 Persons in 1 God. Amen

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Classical trinitarians would say that’s tritheism.

[@approvedofGod]

First person to coin the word "Trinity" was Theophilus of Antioch. You are correct! Now, my question is, "where did he get this idea of God being three?" Hint: his formula of the Trinity was that it was "God, Word, and Wisdom." Where did he get this idea?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Trias was the word he used. And notice it’s not trinity as articulated today. Many get all sorts of false doctrines from an inaccurate interpretation of the Bible.

[@Jdbaraiac19]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa If you have an issue with the word trinity or persons then Would you say that Father=\=Son=\=Holy Spirit but Father=God, Son=God, Holy Spirit=God. If we confound the Father and the Son as the same then we are antichrist denying the eternal relationship of them. 1 John 2:22. John 1:18 says Jesus was in the bosom of the Father. So who was in the Father’s bosom? The Father? That’s Sabellianism. If you say Jesus was created that’s Arianism. My question is at the baptism of Jesus how come God can appear at three places at once yet not be three persons?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@Jdbaraiac19 An Antichrist, among other things is one who denies that in Jesus you have both the Father and the Son.

[@Jdbaraiac19]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa But the bible clearly says the Son came in human flesh not the Father. Again, you have yet to answer my question, antichrist; Who was in the bosom of the Father? Was the Father in his own bosom? Was Jesus created to be in the Father's bosom? You cannot answer because you are a liar. What a bold statement to claim that this new heresy, which is an old heresy which started with Sibelius, is the truth. And you some how have been more illuminated by the spirit of error than all the greek biblical experts of church history and the church fathers who read the bible in the original greek. Are they all antichrist? We are not antichrist. YOu are the liar!

[@YAHOOISNOTG]

@@Jdbaraiac19 You clearly did not watch the video, "My question is at the baptism of Jesus how come God can appear at three places at once yet not be three persons?" only someone who truly seeks the truth will find it.

[@awillingvessel238]

can you explain Mark 10:18 ? who was Christ talking to when the little boy said "good master how can I acheive eternal life " and Christ said "why do you call me good ..theres only 1 good and its He who is in Heaven"...?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

God is Omnipresent

[@stevegrady5134]

Thank you for this explanation. I was raised Roman Catholic not because we really were but rather just because that was the closest private school for my parents to send me to. The Trinity is something that I've always struggled with. Based on a video that you made a while ago and that I just recently watched, I ordered my own copy of the KJV Apostolic Study Bible from Pentecostal Publishing. It hasn't arrived yet but I'm looking forward to reading it.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Amen!

[@silveriorebelo2920]

wow, the KJV Apostolic Study Bible... the problem with that labeling of your Bible as 'apostolic' is that you are no longer catholic -

[@tyler9_10]

@@silveriorebelo2920 what?

[@hassanmirza2392]

Bro, God or Lord is one, not three. Do not believe in Trinity, be a Unitarian!

[@4321grp]

The controversy about "Who is Jesus"? goes all the way back to when he and the disciples went from place to place in the Holy Land, Bringing the Gospel to the Jews, Healing the sick, Restoring sight to the blind, Raising the dead. Jesus settled the controversy once and for all. Sadly, Jesus' words are not good enough for many Christians today. Matt.16:13-17 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Notice Jesus did not correct Peter, or add to Peter's answer, Jesus was pleased with Peter's correct answer, and Jesus praised Peter and said that the answer Peter gave was inspired directly from the Almighty Heavenly Father, The only True God. Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God. No more, no less. His own words.

[@Paladin1776-v6e]

It doesn’t seem to be a salvation issue. Christ is Lord.

[@josephjones4207]

Do you believe in the real presence of Christ in communion?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

2 or 3 are gathered... But the bread and fruit of the vine are symbolic!

[@josephjones4207]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I’m thinking about consubstantiation

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@josephjones4207 I know

[@thomasglass9491]

Respectfully disagree! The Old Testament makes that difference in Proverbs 30:4 and Daniel 3:25. Even Isaiah 48:16 which is the most obvious trinitarian verse in the Old Testament, makes a difference in persons, and not to mention the New Testament which is clear in the different passages.

[@TheSoulWinnersGuide]

Actually the vast majority of Historians and Theologians would disagree with you. Let me share with you some examples.

[@TheSoulWinnersGuide]

"nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person. Mention is often made of the Spirit of the Lord , but there is nothing to show that the Spirit was viewed as distinct from Jahweh Himself. The term is always employed to signify God considered in His working, whether in the universe or in the soul of man"--Catholic Encyclopedia "it is contrary to the usage of Jesus to make a personal distinction between the Holy Spirit and the Father. His view of the Spirit, according to the synoptists, was not different from that of the prophets....The "Holy Spirit" is, the "Spirit of your Father"; that is to say, it is "your Father" as a present spiritual power.... simply the spiritual presence of the Father." -George Gilbert; DD, PhD, Trinitarian, The Baptismal Formula of Matt. 28:19, in the Light of Jesus' Unquestionable Teaching, pgs377-378 "the New Testament often portrays Christ in terms of the central Old Testament concept of the 'Spirit of the Lord'."-- A. McGrath, Trinitarian Theologian, Christian Theology an Introduction, 1994, pg301

[@TheSoulWinnersGuide]

"Today Scholars generally AGREE that there is NO doctrine of the Trinity as such in either the O.T. or the N.T.. It would go far BEYOND the intention and thought-forms of the O.T. to suppose that a late fourth-century or thirteenth-century Christian doctrine can be found there. Likewise, the N.T. does NOT contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity." -Encyclopedia of Catholicism, pgs564-565 "But many doctrines are accepted by evangelicals as being clearly taught in the scripture for which there are NO proof texts. The doctrine of the Trinity furnishes the best example of this. It is fair to say that the Bible does NOT clearly teach the doctrine of the trinity. In fact, there is NOT ONE proof text...." -Dr. Charles C. Ryrie, Trinitarian, Professor, Dallas Theological Seminary, "Basic Theology", pg89 "The doctrine (Trinity) is NOT found in it's fully developed form in the scriptures. Modern Theology does NOT seek to find it in the O.T.. At the time of the Reformation the Protestant Church took over the doctrine of the Trinity WITHOUT serious examination." -New International Encyclopedia, vol23, pg477 "The language of the Trinity Doctrine is the language of the ancient Church, taken NOT from the Bible, but from classical Greek philosophy....The doctrine of the Trinity is NOT found in the Bible." -S. Guthrie Jr., Christian Doctrine, pgs76-77,80 "The doctrine of the Trinity did NOT form part of the Apostles' preaching as this (preaching) is reported in the New Testament." -Encyclopedia International, vol18, pg226 "There is the recognition on the part of exegetes and Biblical theologians....that one should NOT speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification....New Testament exegesis is now accepted as having shown, that NOT ONLY the verbal idiom, but EVEN the patterns of thought characteristic of the patristic (Church Fathers) and concilian (Church councils) development would have been QUITE FOREIGN to the mind and culture of the New Testament writers." -New Catholic Encyclopedia

[@thomasglass9491]

@WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY STUDY Not all the time! Most of the time Jesus talks literal and the comforter is the Holy Spirit not Jesus and yes, Jesus is omnipotent because he is God, nothing to do if the trinity is real or not.

[@ArtisticKid316]

@@TheSoulWinnersGuide “We are directed to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. That the Father is a Person, and the Son is a Person, there is no debate upon this; and what, then, can the Holy Ghost be but a Person? Is it credible that we are to be baptized in the name of Two Persons, and one quality? The conjunction of things so wholly different in kind,…” - Henry Melvill, p. 847. “‘Our Lord commands his apostles to ‘disciple all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ Now all will allow that the Father and the Son are distinct persons. Some deny that the Son is God, but no one denies that he is a Person, distinct from the Father. But what confusion must it introduce, to add to them and to join equally with them, as to all the concerns of faith and obedience, the Holy Ghost, if he be not a Divine Person? And if he be a person, but not divine, then this is to assign the same honour to a creature as to God, which is detestable idolatry. And if he be not a Person, but a virtue or quality in God, what sense can any man make of the words? Besides; Whatever is ascribed to the other Persons, is equally ascribed to him: whatever is intended by the name of the Father and the Son, he is equally concerned in it. It is not the name _Father_, and the name _Son_, but the name of _God_, that is, of them both, that is intended. And by the name of _God_, either his being, or his authority is signified. If it be used in the first way, then the being of the Spirit must be the same with that of the Father; if in the latter, he has the same authority with him: and he who has the name and authority of God, is God; is a Divine Person.” - John Owen, “A Discourse Concerning the Holy Spirit,” 1841, p. 44-45. “The association of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost in the same offices implies a personality in the latter as much as in the two former. ‘Baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” Mat. xxviii. 19. To baptize one in or unto the name of any one is to devote him supremely in affection, service and obedience to the person named. But there is no baptism unto an attribute, influence, or principle. Or if it were so, how singular thus to join two persons and an attribute in a formula of dedication. Some regard the Holy Ghost here ‘as the guiding influence which proceeds from God.’ Discourses on the Unity of God. By Dr. W. G. Eliot of St. Louis, p. 22. But in a baptism unto God the Father is it not to God entire? Is his ‘guiding influence’ so overlooked or excepted that it must be added by specification as a supplement or erratum? When it is said that the Israelites ‘were baptized unto Moses,’ it were a superfluity to add, ‘and unto his guiding influence.’ That is necessarily included in Moses and in baptism unto him. Moreover, of all the attributes, powers and influences of God, why single out that one, and baptize unto it?” - The Boston Review, “The Personality of the Holy Spirit,” Vol. III, No. 17, 1863, p. 440.

[@josephjones4207]

Do you know about the collective “I”?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Which one?

[@donnamarino3402]

I like to say that I'm a book of Acts Christian.

[@JayEhm1517]

Thoughts on Letham's work?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Haven’t dug in yet but I plan to. Anything new in it? Not covered elsewhere?

[@JayEhm1517]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa it's considered a modern classic. Letham deals with Eastern Orthodoxy when others in the West do not.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@JayEhm1517 And I love studying the Eastern view of God. Thank you!

[@paulmc2162]

Jesus revealed the Oneness of God to me when I was 14 years old reading the Gospel of John. I was not attending a oneness Church and I did not know there was oneness and trinitarian. I remember wondering who the Father was and immediately God revealed that the Father is God and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. You see Jesus you see the Father. God revealed it more than once. I know someone who opposed the doctrine of the Oneness of God and Oneness Pentecostal Church's and God revealed the Oneness of God to him. But he still opposed baptism in Jesus name for the remission of sins. I tried to tell him (so he would think about it) that he was wrong about the Oneness of God so he should consider that he also has the wrong understanding about baptism. He did not want to listen. I believe Jesus encounter with Philip in John 14:8 - 9 is in scripture because God knew people would need correction / teaching in this area (Luke 24:45). I also think Luke 11:27 - 28 is in scripture to prevent people from exalting Mary. God holds his Word above His Name. Psalm 138:2 "I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name."

[@samshields1116]

When I was about 3-4 years old my grandmother kept trying to teach me the trinity so I just asked God what he was and I remember him telling me that “I am One” so my grandmother tried talking to me again about it and I was just like “why can’t he just be one?” And she chewed me out because she knew what I was starting to think lol it’s great to hear testimony’s like yours God bless

[@donnamarino3402]

I use the KJV, but I know that you know the translators used italics for words they added. As I understand John 8:24 It reads "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins." The translators added, "he." I read it "if ye believe not that "I AM" ye shall die in your sins. The "I AM" is the self-existent one." Why do you suppose many Trinitarians cannot grasp that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles? Even if they were names, NAME is singular. Then they either ignore or refuse to accept that the apostles never once baptized using the titles. It all seems so crystal clear. Another thing I've come across is their inability to grasp a primary scripture that says clear as glass that the Godhead is in Jesus and not the other way around. I don't get it. Knowing who God is must truly come by revelation as the people I've conversed with cannot see what is plain as day.

[@christopherbernal7267]

Did you find that the word trinity is no where in the bible, when referring to GOD ALMIGHTY, KING 👑 JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, THERE CALLED , THE GODHEAD

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Godhead is singular and refers to a singular Being, not a they.

[@BrotherDevinMichael]

The Biblical word used for the Trinity is Godhead. Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, and Colossians 2:9. And of course there is always 1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. You can read the Bible all you want, but if you are determined not to believe it, you never will.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Godhead is singular not plural, hence a singular Deity

[@BrotherDevinMichael]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa If it were singular, then the word would be God. Thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@BrotherDevinMichael Where did you reach that conclusion?

[@BrotherDevinMichael]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Conclusion of what? That the Godhead is plural, or that you have studied yourself mad?

[@BrotherDevinMichael]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Godhead being plural- Genesis 1:26-(our image, our likeness), Genesis 3:22-(as one of us), 1 John 5:7(these three are one).

[@93556108]

I respectfully disagree of your teaching. The case for Jesus being His own Father in a different form or office is very weak at best. The new testament not once called Jesus as the Father anywhere and consistently describes them as personally distinct.

[@thomasglass9491]

@Tan Ewelee Thank you! The Old Testament makes that difference in Proverbs 30:4 and Daniel 3:25. Even Isaiah 48:16 which is the most obvious trinitarian verse in the Old Testament, makes a difference in persons.

[@93556108]

@@thomasglass9491 thank you.

[@Redeemedentertainment]

Not agreeing or disagreeing with you but He did call a woman “Daughter”

[@abearnchess4155]

John 10:30

[@93556108]

@@abearnchess4155 yes, one in unity, one in nature, one in authority but the God the Father and God the Son are equally distinct from each other.

[@spootakesthehill5634]

You’ve studied for 35 years and still can’t rightly divide the word of truth concerning Act 2:38

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Haha! Sure I can

[@peytonallen1135]

Acts 2:39 says that the Acts 2:38 experience(repentance, baptism in the Name of Jesus, infilling of the Holy Spirit) is for YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, and ALL THAT ARE FAR OFF.

[@glennomac7499]

Hi Steve Me again. This should settle it. What does 2 Peter 2:20-21 say? 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Then, what does it say in 1 Peter 1:11? 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Ghost! Then we have Jeremiah 17:10; I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. This is Jehovah speaking. Let's compare that to Revelation 2:23; 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. This is Jesus speaking. Jesus is Jehovah!

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

I agree!

[@AmericanShia786]

I studied the Trinity seriously since 1985, age 25. By 1999, I was no longer a Trinitarian. In his Skeletons of a Course in Theology, Revivalist Charles Grandson Finney wrote about how various ancient civilizations many times had an important Trinity of God. I read that in 1993, and that was the beginning of the end for me. I think the Oneness view is truer to strict Monotheism. However, if the Bible is 1) Trustworthy and 2) used to develop the theology of God, then I believe that Jesus Christ was created, but pre-existed the physical creation, and supported by God's Word and Spirit. Personally, even if One God is a Trinity of Persons, I really don't believe God is going to damn any monotheistic just for not understanding. That is a conclusion from the Roman legal system, not from scripture.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Fascinating take my friend!

[@peytonallen1135]

Jesus only pre-existed as the Spirit of God that made everything

[@artemusbowdler7508]

The word “gamble” and the word “rapture” are not in the Bible.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Rapture is in the Latin Bible. And as I’ve gone over ad naseum on the channel, no concomitant words defining the trinity are either. I’ve made at least one vid on this point.

[@artemusbowdler7508]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Darrell Bock does believe in the trinity and has an entire video on the doctrine of the trinity on KZbin; you misrepresented Dr. Bock--this is dishonest. You also conveniently leave out passages that support the trinity. This is dishonest. How is 2 Corinthians 13:14 not a trinitarian text?, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all." How is Galatians 4:1-6 not a trinitarian passage? In the Lord's Prayer, why would Jesus tell us to pray to the Father if if the trinity is not a reality?

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@artemusbowdler7508 I am not dishonest in the least. I never said he didn’t believe in the trinity. And Such as the Lord’s Prayer I’ve made videos ad naseum on the prayers of Jesus. Humanity praying to Deity. Carefully watch the dozens of videos I’ve done on the subject rather than posting things your not quite acquainted with please.

[@artemusbowdler7508]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa You dropped his name to bolster your anti-trinitarian belief?

[@rogerwilliams8371]

Exodus chapter 33

[@cynthiafisher9907]

I consider myself Oneness, but I think of it as two, the Spirit and the flesh. God is a Spirit and He chose to robe Himself in flesh, condescending to lowly men.

[@DesignInNature]

Hmm..., from what I can see, this "One-ness" denomination is really a "Two-ness" movement. Only acknowledging the Father and the Son, but not the Holy Spirit. I am an ex-Jehovah witness. With that as my background, I can sincerely tell you that this belief and the "logic" behind it is one short step away from being like the JW cult on this regard. I respect and understand how men who love God and his word can be really internally conflicted and worried about NOT worshiping anything other than God. But friends, you already cleared the biggest hurdle. You already believe that Christ IS God! It is very hard to understand that fact with "human logic", so I struggled with this for a long time. But at one point through prayer and the mercy of the Holy Ghost I just HAD to accept that while it may make no sense to my fallen, human brain, and it at least "seems" contradictory under the light of some isolated passages, the truth is that it is THERE in the Bible when taken as a whole unit in context. If you separate one from the other, then you would have a whole set of scriptures asking you to love, honor, kneel to, bow down to, and worship and exalt someone OTHER than God. Is it too hard to believe that with the limited mental faculties of our fallen human state, it is simply not possible for us to discern the depths of the full nature of God? I keep hearing objections that all rely on trying to compare God (who is eternal, non-created, omniscient and all powerful) to created things. Sure, there is nothing in nature that acts like a Tri-unity, or Trinity in perfect sync with how the Bible describes the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Of course there isn't! Nothing, NOTHING created can be as the infinite God almighty. We will revel for endless ages on his powerful light and shall see him as he truly IS once we are in heaven. No need to split churches and fellowship trying to put God in a box that fits our human logic. Keep believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and in his propitiatory sacrifice for our sins. Stay strong and true to that faith of him as the ONLY way to the Father. He who honors the Son, honors the Father. That is what matters most.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Nah. We believe God is a Spirit, and God is One Spirit. So the Holy Ghost is just God Himself.

[@rogerwilliams8371]

Accompanying exodus 33 there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Jesus christ, Jesus son of God son of man "same person" Jesus is at the right hand of the Father

[@diodorusb]

Oneness and Trinity doctrines are wrong. The Bible is very simple and straightforward for the honest People. Pray to God and he will reveal it to you as he did reveal it to me. There is only one God the Father and he is not a man. Jesus the Christ is and man born of God (the first born of God) and God made him Lord and saviour for all that believe in him to have external life. He gave his life as a sacrifice to God to save as from sin. 1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

[@rodneydungan8965]

Nice talk. Never even heard of "Oneness." Makes perfect sense to me.

[@johnclaiborne2749]

Trying to "learn" everything about the Trinity by studying all kinds of false teachings about the Trinity can actually be a dangerous approach. Why? Because there are plenty of people who think they understand the Trinity by providing extremely poor analogies (such as the egg-analogy). And then it becomes very easy to point to the many false views about the Trinity, and then use the plethora of those false beliefs to conclude, "You see, no one really understands the Trinity so therefore it must be rejected". And it's SO TIRESOME to keep hearing someone reject the Trinity on the basis that the word itself is not found in the Bible. But when you point out to that person that there are plenty of theological terms likewise not found in the Bible (such as "omnipotent" or "omniscient"), they don't see their own inconsistencies. At roughly 11:08 in this video, the pastor actually talks about the "omniscience" of God. But wait a minute, pastor, why are you using a term not found in the Bible? In my experience, it's VERY difficult to get through to a Oneness individual who has allegedly studied the Trinity. That's because the false views regarding the Trinity help to further insulate them from the biblical truth about the nature of God. Finally, I keep hearing Oneness proponents claim that they only look to the Bible to derive their teachings. OK, here are three clear, biblical teachings which should lead any unbiased person to a basic understanding of the triune nature of God. But anti-Trinitarian groups will reject one or more of these points in order to adhere to their traditions. 1. The Bible clearly teaches monotheism, but that does NOT automatically mean Unitarianism as Oneness proponents are quick (and eager) to assume. 2. The Father is identified as God, the Son (i.e. Jesus) is identified as God, and the Holy Spirit is identified as God. 3. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit clearly interact with each other on a personal level. The Father sends the Son, the Father and the Son talk to each other, the Holy Spirit drives the Son into the wilderness, etc. "Manifestations" or "modes" don't do that.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

Who studied false things about the trinity? I tried to study every prominent trinitarian and their beliefs from Rainer to Dins Scotus, to Athanasius, to Tertullian. You set up a straw man and attack that. And that’s just what I’ve found studying the trinity. So many have to lie or obfuscate to defend it. Not everyone, but many. Live you bro. Keep it real. The longest post doesn’t alway mean truth. Another internet fallacy.

[@johnclaiborne2749]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Sir, YOU are the one who stated that you've attempted to read every "perspective" on the Trinity (as you've stated at roughly 2:38). Do you not understand that many of those "perspectives" are contradictory and unorthodox? It's not my "straw man" argument. And, again, why do you not understand that the word "Trinity" is a theological term? Don't keep telling your viewers (or your congregation) that that's a legitimate basis for rejecting the Trinity. It's NOT! My long post was meant to inform and to educate those who are getting very poor information from your videos. As a pastor, God is going to hold you to a higher standard for leading people astray.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@johnclaiborne2749 How would you know which one was true if you didn’t study them all? And God is going to hold you accountable as well. Believe the truth. Love God. Don’t cloud peoples minds with a nebulous, non-Biblical term for God, that can mean so many things, as you say. If it was important to God, the word would be in Scripture, just like every other important word like baptism, sanctification, holiness etc.

[@johnclaiborne2749]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa How would you know which one was true if you didn't study them all? Part of that answer involves the recognition that, today, we stand on the shoulders of giants, and we have a great deal of consistency and agreement with what the catholic (small "c") church has believed over the last two thousand years. Jesus said, "I will build my church", and the church that He's been building over the last two thousand years has been overwhelmingly trinitarian (not Arian, not modalistic, not some other false view). Moreover, you'd need to recognize that a false teacher such as a Benny Hinn or a Kenneth Copeland is NOT likely to have an accurate understanding of many biblical teachings. So when you say that you've studied many "perspectives" on the Trinity, recognize that some of those "perspectives" have come from false teachers (past or present), and that you're already on thin ice in terms of fidelity to biblical truth. Secondly, why is it SO DIFFICULT for you to acknowledge your own hypocrisy? You're so happy to use a term like "omniscience", which is not found in the Bible, but you'll reject a different theological term like "Trinity" because it's "not in the Bible". Do you see the foolishness? To simply say that, "If it was important to God, the word would be in Scripture". Says WHO? Those are very simple-minded arguments which can be applied to any biblical teaching that one doesn't like. Finally, why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge the three biblical points that I've noted? Those three points are CLEARLY biblical, and they serve to differentiate between the kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of the cults. Every pseudo-Christian organization will reject at least one of those three points.

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@johnclaiborne2749 I don’t have to use any non-Biblical term but I do. But so many trinitarians say you cannot be saved without using the unbiblical terminology of trinity, trinitarian etc. And then the non-biblical terminology surrounding it like 1st person, 2nd person, 3rd person, co-equal, co-eternal, consubstantial, 3 hypostases, and the like. I’ll gladly only use Biblical language. Will you?

[@ranospiteri5776]

Matthew 16:18 “ ( and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”). For these reasons, it is sound to conclude that Oneness Pentecostalism is anti-historical Christianity; a modern invention that no know even heard of in the early church and for centuries and centuries after that. Sabellianism was condemned by the early church in the third century and oneness Pentecostalism was condemned in the 20th century all Theas things proved strong evidence that oneness Pentecostalism was not of God because Jesus said his church will prevail and will never be overcome. oneness Pentecostalism is the true church of Christ and the church of Christ was overcome for centuries and centuries

[@samuelknipp6978]

I am oneness however I believe in the word ( IS ) Paul wrote to Timothy Without controversy Great IS the mystery of Godliness..he didn't say WAS the mystery..it IS he did use was as if he was solving it..Uou and I can read the exact same scripture and totally disagree..We are as dust. and God is aware of that..If you disagree with me about the oneness you still believe Jesus came , died for our sins. resurrected ..as do i.. for me to say your going to hell is almost to wish that you were to prove im right..( Sad ) David couldn't build the Temple but God said because it was in his heart he did well... God knows us and before a word rolls of our tongue He knows it altogether..I would that none would perish if I'm wrong I don't want to perish and if you're wrong nor do I want you to perish..I don't want to be right yo where you lose your soul..where is my Agape in that..if You're wrong my prayer is Lord forgive them. and guess what. he'll forgive and if I'm wrong you ask God to forgive me and guess what He will...They were nailing Him to the cross He said Father forgive..So if I ask God to forgive because the whole of the mystery is not known unto you or I..That's the Agape that's the Love..Believe what you believe and let Agape unite us...God Bless..

[@josephjones4207]

This puts you on the same side as Jews

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

That is a broad statement that makes no sense without further clarification my friend.

[@josephjones4207]

@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa don’t Jews reject the trinity

[@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa]

@@josephjones4207 Yes, as did Paul, Jesus, Abraham, Moses, David, Peter etc. Jesus said the Jews had the correct view of God, John 4:22-23.

[@ProjectCould]

The correct understanding is that the Bible teaches both tritheism and monotheism simultaneously. How do I know this is true? It’s a matter of consistency: Singular personal pronouns always refer to only one person. Plural personal pronouns always refer to more than one person. When Genesis says “let us”, that refers to three Lords. 1 John 5:7 brings it all together, which is teaching three Lords that simultaneously are only one Lord. Mystery solved.

[@FamilyFriedemann]

Let me solve that riddle for you: Plural personal pronouns do not always refer to more than one person. This is why the servants of God do not address God as "they" in the Bible, and only the enemies of God ever address Him in the plural. In John 14:21-23, it is explained that the unbelievers and disobedient who do not know God cannot perceive Him because they cannot comprehend that He can say "I" and "we" absolutely interchangeably. Mal. 3:1 and Mk. 1:1-4 also display how God speaks of His Son and says "I" and "He" interchangeably. God uses personal pronouns to refer to himself because man can only understand Him partially, and His unseen infinite nature is always a "He" beyond the "He" we perceive - despite Him being the "He" which is manifest to us (cf. John 1:18). So God revealed in creation, and God above all, are not two Lords, even if He says "we" (especially while manifest within creation). The Light says "I", and the Man says "I", but the Light is the Man. All these distinctions are temporal and will cease to be in the future (Zech. 14:9, 1 Cor. 15:24-28). So if God says "I", "He" or "we", it is the same person with the same name speaking. This is why He who is Father and Son, He whom trinitarians call "they", is called "He" in passages such as 1 John 2:1+28-29 and Revelation 22:3-5. The Comma Johanneum in 1 John 5:7-8 is a later addition to the Bible which was not present originally, and is not found in any early Bible. It's a very bad basis of belief, and merely caters to the carnal misconceptions superimposed on the Bible. Also your proposition violates the law of non-contradiction, as you cannot reconcile passages such as Isaiah 44:24 and John 1:1-3 with these presuppositions.

[@ProjectCould]

@@FamilyFriedemann Sorry, you’re response here is inconsistent and therefore bad argumentation. I’m a KJV believer, so 1 John 5:7 is authoritative scripture. I’m settled on the KJV and am not changing my mind on its authority. God uses plural personal pronouns in full genuineness because “...there are three that bear record...”, which is obviously three divine persons, hence three Lords necessarily, otherwise there are not three that bear record. No way around it for a KJV believer.

[@ProjectCould]

@TWG Your assumption is that because the Bible teaches monotheism, therefore it cannot also teach polytheism. But if we allow the scripture to speak for itself, we must conclude what I’ve come to understand. Genesis 1:26 with 1 John 5:7 and Psalm 110:1 plainly shows polytheism. Otherwise if you prescribe plain meaning to the plural language that is used (which you should, and this is something the full Oneness view simply cannot consistently address), you have to teach the Orthodox Trinity view, when nowhere in the Bible does it teach 1 essence, three persons, in the way “traditional Trinitarians” would like to tell us.

[@FamilyFriedemann]

@@ProjectCould , you are trusting Erasmus of Rotterdam, who added the passage due to pressure from the RCC in his later versions of the Textus Receptus, which is a catholic critical text of the 16th century. Him whom you call "they", God calls "I" just as much as "we".

[@ProjectCould]

@@FamilyFriedemann I primarily address God with singular language because this is the predominant language used in scripture. But it’s hypocrisy to say that it’s inappropriate for me to address three divine persons with associated plural words when the Bible reveals God speaking to himself with “us”, “our”, and “we”. But your real problem is that you deny the existence of three divine persons altogether. I don’t really have any further comment on the authority of 1 John 5:7. I simply disagree that Erasmus was the source of the verse. And BTW, this verse doesn’t teach the Orthodox Trinity, but rather simultaneous polytheism and monotheism.

[@JammerJay]

I can't agree with either Trinity or Oneness. Rather, I believe in a "Duality" that can best be described by using the following "technological" analogy: A saved human being is a lot like a mobile phone. You are connected via wireless signal, which is the Holy Spirit, to a cell tower, which is Jesus Christ. The tower is the gateway to a central "supercomputer", which is God, the Father, through the same wireless signal, which is the Holy Spirit. Each element may be separate but they operate as one, on different levels. "One mind, one accord". The Holy Spirit, although not an "IT", is the spiritual equivalent of the hands and feet of God, the Father, who is also spirit. Yet its core being (center of intelligence) is located in the dimension we call "Heaven".

[@kevinlee5753]

Not sure wat ur understanding of wat oneness is but wat you've described is basically wat oneness teaches. I have a picture model of oneness that can be compared to ur analogy very easily.

[@JammerJay]

@@kevinlee5753 scripture clearly indicates that Christ had a human mind/will of his own, which he surrendered completely to the will of God, the Father, through the inner workings of the Holy Spirit. He was indeed a separate being, although inhabited by & surrendered to the Holy Spirit. He was both human & Divine, God & man, simultaneously. On the other hand, the Holy Spirit appears to be, from a human perspective, the spiritual hands & feet of God, an extension of the God, the Father, into our physical realm of existence, who simultaneously exists in Heaven due to his omnipresence. Therefore, I would argue that scripture clearly teaches the concept of "duality"; God/Spirit & Son.

[@JammerJay]

@@kevinlee5753 Also, while I do believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are very much still relevant today, nowhere in scripture does it teach that "speaking in other tongues" is the initial evidence of "Spirit Baptism". Also, nowhere does it give an account of Jesus speaking in an unknown tongue or " prayer language". Rather, in my opinion, scripture seems to indicate that the initial evidence is a Christ-like demeanor/character. For any believer, pastor, church, or denomination to insist that believer must speak in tongues to be saved is nothing short of cult-like behavior.

[@kevinlee5753]

@@JammerJay that's pretty much wat oneness teaches as far as tongues go that's another discussion but wat you see as far as the Godhead goes I applaud your view cuz theirs not much difference if any to the oneness view

[@MrPawPaw]

Let this one go Jay. A saved person is nothing like a mobile phone. Lol. When attempting to understand or relate to others God, which is fairly impossible, your analogy has to be relatable to all people at every stage of human history or its just fad and thus false. We honestly can't go with, " I think God is....." There really are only 2 dogmas left to go with. Brighter, purer, and more spiritual minds than ours have attempted to explain God and we would be both safe and secure to be satisfied with one of them. It is truly a mystery. The trinity originally was not die cast in stone but was the model for the church to weed out heretics. Much like today. I think God is this. I think the Holy Spirit is ... whatever. Jesus was created, he's Satan's brother, he's Michael, etc. I personally think oneness makes sense, in a way, but has open holes I can't get a grasp on. Jesus, " I have to go so the Holy Spirit comes". (paraphrased) . So he left and the Holy Spirit came. Is now in the earth. The Father is still in heaven. Jesus is in heaven with a glorified body. So is the glorified Christ, the Father in heaven or is God the Father still Spirit? I'm just thinking out loud and not really asking you to answer. Yet God Jesus and God the father are ONE. So in my puny mind I see God the Father from all eternity with His word that created all things. Father and word the same entity. Not seperate. Our word is not separate from us. And the Father sent His word by his Spirit into the virgin Mary and she conceived the Son of God. The Son of Man. Jesus is the new creation. God in the flesh. The Father by His Spirit living in the body of Jesus. Their wills are ONE. Now this sounds like there's 2 except there is the Holy Spirit in all this making everyone ONE. The Holy Spirit is the biggest part of the mystery to me. Just when you think you have a handle on God, it all starts over. Lol. Oneness is Def easier to grasp. God is one, God the Father manifests as God the Son, goes back and comes back as the Holy Spirit. Or does oneness believe that? I may be totally wrong. It's a great mystery for honest debate. If only Constantine wouldn't have gotten involved this would be much simpler. Something happened back then that we will never know. Was it in God's plan or the battle just got alot more intense for the souls of man. Shalom and don't take anything I say personally. No offense meant.

[@TransGurl.VrilX.1488]

I have my thoughts, and I have some knowledge, and I have my experiences. I wouldn't have any one of them without all the other. and yet, they are in and of themselves. I heard some good jokes about the fact that everybodies interpretation of you, as a person, or personality is different. Also, it's been said that there are 3 sides to every story, lest it be craft.