Mandalorian 3x07 Reaction and After Show: Is the Armorer Working With Moff Gideon? | Wookieeleaks

The Mandalorian Chapter 23 “The Spies” brings the Mandalorian people back to their home planet before falling into an ambush. Join Erik Voss and Hector Navarro as they break down the details of this episode and what the finale could have in store!
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[@Skye_Writer]

The most obvious spies of the episode were the "survivors", the ones who took Bo and the rest of the group *right to Gideon.* Those guys melt away once the trap is sprung, they are not in the room where the rest are trapped. 🤔

[@ShakikhanGaming]

Ya, there’s also a group of them heading to the fleet! I think you are correct.

[@venturakmd]

The mandalorians chased the retreating troopers into that trap, I don’t think it was just the “survivors” imo

[@DR.64A9]

Good catch, the armorer is classic red herring.

[@stephenbaxter5804]

They also said "we can take you to the Forge" but then the ship got attacked and they take refuge in some caves... which happen to be The Forge? Like WTF if the caves to the Forge were right there, where were they actually being taken? Very Sus.

[@CCFONESOL]

And there is no way they could spend years on Mandalore and not know of an Imperial presence near the capitol.

[@ashleyroberts2294]

No one’s talking about the fact that Paz has a son who’s now orphaned, that’s what’s so sad about his death to me

[@VenBrookeHQ]

I was thinking of Attack of the Clones and fully expected a decapitation much like Jango was.

[@najtrows]

Maybe Bo has to take care of him now?

[@geeayy333]

Maybe he'll turn dark

[@TheRonaldbaxter]

They can feed him to the Pterodactlyl babies now. Nobody is concerned about those three!😥

[@ROLO31]

that was literally what i was thinking as he closed the door, ragnar just took the creed and everything 😞

[@thiagoarantes5869]

Moff Gideon was surprised with the news of Mandalorians defeating the pirates. I think the Armourer is safe.

[@hcastro35]

It has to be the mandos they encountered on the planet. I didn’t see any of them get trapped & they gladly took all of them

[@mondoburger9535]

but ellia kane wasn't.. what if ,, just what if armourer - > ellia kane -> moff

[@Scorpion51123314512]

@@hcastro35 Think it was the Survivor's captain. He had the look of he knew someone was there when Bo-Katan was talking about how Moff got the Dark Saber.

[@misteryman526]

That only means the spy among the Mandalorians didn't have an opportunity to contact Gideon.

[@kyleyoung2464]

No. Gideon was surprised the mandos teamed up. If the armorer was a spy he would know.

[@АлександрБогуславский-з1у]

smart

[@Joker23236]

Thing is we don’t know how much time is passing. We don’t know when Moff made contact with the shadow council.

[@Homie1Kenobie]

Maybe she’s a spy for Thrawn🤷🏻‍♂️

[@phil818]

The spy was obvious and it was the comms officer I think everyone is digging to deep

[@bigblack5643]

The "survivors" are the biggest threat i feel. Gideon obviously made it his home base since the planets destruction, and the survivors told no one.

[@LordGavial1138]

The way , Grogu is on IG-12 Is a call back of how He was transported by IG-11 in season 1. In a backpack on the chest !

[@Homie1Kenobie]

I thought it was a TMNT Krang reference 😂

[@kifoz_lordoz]

​@@Homie1Kenobierofl

[@gunnarulfr2098]

What if the Mandalorian survivors on Mandalore were the spies. First off they approach the landing party and confirm Bo is with them then the “injured” Mandalorians get brought to the light cruiser while the rest of the group led the landing party directly to where the trap was being sprung. Plus who better to train these troopers to fight in Mandalorian armor and jet packs then Mandalorians themselves?

[@TheChinobi23]

That's my head cannon, they took all of them to the trap...

[@Homie1Kenobie]

Except a few of them died and a bunch went back to the ship…also I think any spy for Gideon would have been saved, and revealed. They could have started shooting the Mandos in the back when Gideon opened the door. Just doesn’t land for me

[@2wheeledgeek555]

@@Homie1Kenobie pretend to be hurt to get back to the fleet

[@bevssabado3460]

​@@Homie1Kenobie can't reveal themselves yet, spy work still needs to get done back at the ship with the "injured" maybe distract the armorer so they won't notice the bombs till it's too late

[@Homie1Kenobie]

@@2wheeledgeek555 they emaciated themselves?… Bunch of Christian Bales in that clan

[@dwightsharpe7488]

If the Armorer was the spy Gideon would have known about the two factions working together.

[@emperorduffman4415]

A true mastermind would still "seem suprised" or nonchalant when the spy told him

[@EdertheJust]

I thought he did know. He mentioned it when he was talking to that group of bad guys. That is why he wanted to go after the Mandolorians.

[@DultaMooxe]

@@EdertheJust but right after Elia told him

[@cr4z3d_gaming26]

If the armorer was a spy Gideon would know everything about the Mandos like clan fights spots to mine vasgraud etc

[@Design909.]

Best episode so far. From start to finish this was fantastic.

[@jeffjohnson1966]

The giant Mythosaur symbol on the bottom of the cruiser was a nice touch. If I was a Mandalorian who jacked Imperial ships, I'd paint the Mythosaur all over everything...

[@TheRonaldbaxter]

Yes, I was waiting fot it to embarass itself, but it was good. They had to make the Praetorian guard cool after their ballet dance in TLJ. I still wonder who is feeding the Pterodactyl babies?

[@daltonmeadesmith]

This episode is definitely fantastic, but nothing beats episode 3 of season 3 for me.

[@Homie1Kenobie]

I felt so many things… needed a nap after😂

[@PartStupid]

Episode 5 was the best IMO so far. Still a good one though.

[@jamesmichaelyoung8563]

If you are older...over 50 and saw the Original Movies in the Movie Theatres while youngish...and if you got butterflies like I did,,,,and got those same butterflies while watching this episode....you understand Star Wars! GREAT JOB ALL INVOLVED!

[@charlieanton6785]

I LOVED Grogu in IG12 and hopefully he gets better at operating it over the episodes so he can run and shoot etc it’s a huge level up for Grogu and opens up possibilities. The fact that it is IG11 and we have the back story from season 1 makes it so even sweeter 👌🏼🤌🏼 Never saw it coming and loved it!

[@omayrasdemesne]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[@wanderlustviking]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes

[@sewthernbelle]

Plus over time they could cover the robot body of IG12 with Mandolorian armor so Grogu looks like human sized Mandolorian

[@BGR_33]

YES YES YES YES

[@Jake.__.]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

[@Stayno8930]

Season 1 finale had Gideon give the "You have something I want" speach about grogu to din. Then season 2 had Din give the same speech to Gideon about grogu. Now for the season 3 finale, I kind of want to hear gorgu give the speech (via ig-12) to Gideon about din.

[@Czmdk9384d]

yes. yes. yes. yes. yes. yes.

[@samonatorstudios]

yes yes yes

[@JosephSmith-ii7st]

This deserves more likes than it has 😂

[@MsSkydiver8]

Din pledging to Bo like the Lancelot he is. Love it

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

Honestly I want a freaking debate between Gideon and thrawn

[@Superdelphinus]

Thrawn is OP form what I’ve seen of him though, he’d make short work as someone as psychologically flawed as Gideon I reckon.

[@nathanlandolt5505]

Pretty sure that's how Gideon will die

[@psychTech321]

i think it will happen by the end of the ep where thrawn might just kill gideon and the scene will be llliiiiiitttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@davidstorm2224]

Thrawn would annihilate him 😂

[@laurabillson1870]

Very much yes.

[@betzy7560]

As soon as Gideon said thanks for bringing all the mandalorians in one place I thought of the armorer

[@KingCobraLolcow]

Me too

[@Kilo_Mora]

Or Greef Karga?

[@betzy7560]

@@Kilo_Mora no he is straight up and it was never his idea

[@SimpleEnigma331]

@@betzy7560 He is pissed he lost his fleet and command though.

[@tjk3430]

Maybe the Armorer is siding with the Empire bc they were the strongest enemy.

[@perspectivep.o.v7860]

You look tired Voss, thanks for all the work you put into this for all of us

[@geeayy333]

Nah he looks blitzed 😅

[@Joeblessed_]

It probably gets tiring keeping that camera angel. He looks super uncomfortable

[@maggiepb4]

They probably filmed this super early in the morning 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@keithwoodcrest]

They film these at like 5am

[@KiaraChanelArt]

You can tell Voss is a true professional. He’s the main reason I watch this channel. He does such a great job.

[@Eclecticitee]

I’m wondering why whistling birds weren’t used this season…. Sure would have helped Din when he was isolated and captured.

[@pollo0408]

Thought the same

[@RONIN1992]

The armorer said they were incredibly rare. Maybe they couldn't make more.

[@scaryghost5721]

He's out of ammo, he used that shit like there is no tomorrow. it's fuckin rare, Din.

[@owene2530]

He doesn't have any more of them and they're super rare, that's why.

[@yaboi5047]

If he doesn't use the long rifle with the scope,Why still carry the shells?

[@thedrunkendevildog]

Paz Vizla's death I thought was spot on. He was a hot head character but watching him help Din even though he didnt like him was a niche spot. Throughout the seasons you see Paz fighting a mass amount of enemies head on with his gatling gun, he was true to his beliefs. And when he decided to commit to his last stand I feel like that was a chef's kiss moment. You actually see him fighting instead of primarily shots of him just joining an environmental fight and just shooting his blaster. This moment shows him mowing down his enemies, while sacrificing himself for people he considered once his enemies now viewing them as his allies, and as a veteran that moment was very much how it would have happened in the military, even if you dont like someone you are still brothers and sisters and will fight to protect them no matter what. So that alone was beautiful for Paz, also his mindset in that moment was to buy as much time as possible for his allies, knowing his son will never see him again he gave up his life knowing his son was in good hands. It was just beautiful to watch this break down. It turned Paz into a fan favorite in just one scene in my eyes.

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

I have a feeling thrawn is not going to appreciate moff seemingly trying to put himself in the leadership role.

[@laurahorkey7596]

Ain't nobody trusting the armorer right now!

[@jaedonmaxfield160]

Why

[@RONIN1992]

The Rook Cast rumor is gaining steam.

[@sourav9543]

Why?

[@emonerd9795]

The horns give it away I think 🤷🏽

[@spitflamez]

Right?

[@VenBrookeHQ]

General Grievous was pretty awesome wielding light sabers, imagine what an IG unit could be capable of with a force user at the controls. Could be pretty awesome.

[@andrewshandle]

I think it refers to the Mandaloriians they find still on the planet because clearly they'd know if the Empire was on the planet near the Great Forge.

[@Homie1Kenobie]

You would think… but they never turned on em and a bunch died🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LordMooshroom]

@@Homie1Kenobie If they are clones they may have been programmed to play that role until they successfully got to the trap. The point of the troopers attacking wasn't to kill them, it was to lead them to that trap.

[@deeya]

@@Homie1Kenobie It doesn't have to be all of them. Maybe the Captain made a deal with Gideon too...

[@aliengranpa]

It was awfully convenient that the armorer GTFO before shit hit the fan.🤔🧐

[@bernardovilela5]

same happend in the last ep of seasson 1

[@llofdarkwater9152]

And so often inferring or strait up saying the planet was completely destroyed, or cursed or poisoned to keep people away? Am I wrong on the Armorer doing that... all the episodes are blurred together for me!

[@ColinWren119]

Axe wolves left as well

[@corycesare8821]

Another factor here, Din pledging himself to Bo. If the Armorer does prove to be the "Spy", does that set up a conflict for Din to change his ways to follow Bo?

[@eliopanting3806]

I think “the spies” refers to the warlords, someone of the "shadow council" tipping off Thrawn.

[@milescrissey1366]

The imperial base on Mandalore, would explain where the TIE bombers, that bombed Bo's castle and TIE Interceptors that attacked them, came from. They even elude to it, when they said that they're short-range fighters, so there has to be a support ship nearby.

[@Pit.Badger]

The episode is called the spies. More than one spy so I’m gonna say they’re Koska Reeves and Axe Woves. They’ve been weird since reuniting with Bo and company

[@3rdGenLight]

This! I thought the same. It makes way more sense for one Bo’s old group to to have a spy. The armorer is a red herring. Previously, Bo’s group believed that Mandalore was uninhabitable. They had no cause. They were acting as mercenaries. Axe Woves mentions something along the lines of being mercenaries to the Quarren captain in the previous episode, “Guns for Hire.” The point is further stated by Koska Reeves that their loyalty can be bought while escorting the Mon Calamari prince away. They’ve been cruising around in moff Gideon’s ship looking for work. Gideon knows his ship. He could’ve easily been in contact. We’ve seen a few times that Bo’s group don’t like Din’s group. It’s reasonable that they wouldn’t mind working with the empire if incentivized. We have precedent with characters like Gar and Tiber Saxon that some Mandalorian don’t see the empire as a bad thing. My pick is Axe as the spy. Him, or the randolorian acting as command of Gideon’s cruiser.

[@amberheywood2603]

They had weird off looks to others

[@chasestankievech]

There’s elia kane, and it’s probably the survivors. they’ve been by the forge since and that imperial hanger seemed pretty close by

[@johnvosarogo1785]

I'm betting on one of the night owls as well. I think that's what the evidence suggests

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

This episode weave so much of the previous episodes together i love how Filoni bring things together.

[@RONIN1992]

Gideons troops at the end were reminiscent of Clan Saxon from rebels. Rook Cast is rumored to be the armorer. Rook Cast was Gar Saxsons right hand during the clone wars when they were loyal to Maul and Death Watch. After the clone wars Clan Saxson remained loyal to the empire and ruled over Mandalore untill Gar Saxson was killed by Sabines mother.

[@georgeandrews9427]

I really think The Armourer is either Rook Kast or a member of Clan Saxon who had an alliance with the Empire in Rebels Plus both Gideon and The Armourer have horns atop their helmets like the mandalorians that served Maul at the end of the Clone Wars

[@Thegaming_husky]

People have thought that rook kast is the armourer for a while.

[@scigama71]

that would make sense actually...dang

[@dwightsharpe7488]

But wouldn’t Gideon have know about the two factions working together if the Armorer was working for him?

[@najtrows]

maybe he did

[@Greenhawk4]

The spies were obviously the survivors as how would they know where the forge is but not that the empire is there they were literally around the corner from the imperial base. Also the injured ones will probably take over the fleet from within.

[@mollyjames24]

Whoever the other spy or spies are had to be Mandalorian because Gideon knew that Bo now had the darksaber. The armorer maybe? Axe Woves perhaps? Both conveniently were absent for the biggest part of the battle.

[@lanat9064]

Oh, I didn’t even consider Axe Woves. It could totally be him.

[@cerebrxll6064]

I think Gideon knew because he said to unarm Din, so if he didn't have the darksaber then it would be easy to assume Bo Katan would have it.

[@faryshtheone72]

Axe Woves used his jetpack to go find reinforcements by going through the crack remember? When they first fought the beskar stormtroopers

[@Booger414]

​@@faryshtheone72 or was he just escaping?

[@faryshtheone72]

@@Booger414 I dont think so cuz Mando specifically said they needed reinforcements then axe woves volunteered himself to go find backup and paz viszla suggested to go through the crack in the ceiling and said that he was gonna cover axe woves while axe woves uses his jetpack to fly through the crack

[@magister343]

I assumed that the injured Mandalorians they found on the planet were spies who will take over the Mandalorian fleet in orbit.

[@chasebansai7396]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@Buzz_CT]

Exactly what I was thinking. They've been there since the 'Night of a Thousand Tears'. They knew the location of the 'Forge', which as we saw from the firefight was just around the corner hallway from Moff's ships hangar. They had to know he was there, and they didn't tell Bo.

[@livingphoenix1]

I found them a bit suss to. Like how could live on Mandalore all this time, and find the forge without knowing Gideon had something going on there. Doesn’t make sense to me

[@jasonlunstrum9599]

That makes sense, so it will obviously not go in that direction

[@SoupsSB]

@@livingphoenix1 They did say they never went beneith the surface and the ones who did never came back (presumably killed by the imperials)

[@Powerbear26]

Best episode of the season, can’t wait for next week.

[@cosmicknight4665]

That phrase is said every week😂

[@LeekVision]

They were told that Mandalorw was uninhabitable so that's how Gideon was able to carry out his plans uninterrupted

[@cedriceric9730]

Obviously it's habitable , obviously being the one who attacked he chose some best parts for himself and his plans, obviously he has been using mandalore as his primary base since the purge

[@shreyanshd43]

I thought they were going to try and remove Paz's helmet before they killed him... Felt like there was a reason Jon Favreau stopped voicing him but I guess not. Wonderful episode though!

[@owene2530]

I don't blame him, he's having his brainchild destroyed by the higher ups at Disney who can't keep their hands to themselves and force them to rewrite everything to maximize merchandising opportunities. I'd be surprised if Favreau doesn't quit entirely

[@konstantinosmpouklasss4538]

Good right mate, that's exactly what I thought

[@Nirashi]

Its starwars. He may very well come back.

[@deanhopkins4117]

@@Nirashi get him to a bacta tank stat!!!

[@shawnmcvey7789]

Seems like a way too give props to the actor who's been portraying Pas before they send off the character.

[@KingJake-om7yq]

I love how the mandalorians treat their helmets with a lot of care and remove them gently, while Gideon just rips his off

[@dominicklucarelli9729]

Maybe Carl Weathers’ character made a deal (like Lando). IG-12 has a location device embedded in it. He was very anxious for Grogu to take it.

[@rykerinthewild1155]

I can totally see that

[@balroth]

Greef, I thought, was expecting them to stay as protection. I don't think he was expecting them to leave for Mandalore.

[@keithpeterson9000]

When the spy told Gideon that Narvarro was liberated by Mandalorians and not the Republic he was surprised. He was surprised again to hear the watch worked w/Bo Katan. Then, Armor was surprised it was Night Owl Survivors on Mandalore, who were the ones that led them to the forge. I think Armor left to prove their is no escape for Bo Katan, and the only option to liberate Mandalore is riding the Mythsour in Episode 8

[@drayblanco1319]

How did the surviving Mandalorians spot Bo Katan within a few minutes of landing and not notice years of imperial presence 🤔

[@epocherbs91977]

I love how everyone is glossing over that they ate 3 of their foundlings at the feast… the baby birds. HAHA!

[@Homie1Kenobie]

Nooooooooooo

[@tylerfarris2364]

I was wondering if that what they were eating. That's slightly disturbing lol

[@marinajane7749]

Such a “tender” scene!

[@aaronjovon6491]

It wasn’t the bird. Lol

[@zengamer21]

Grogu seems less safe and less powerful in the IG12 suit. He can no longer fly or close his little pod to protect himself. And he doesn't need the droid arms and legs anyways so... it's just an odd change.

[@ChocolateThaiE]

The IG droid has blasters in its head. It’s still an assassination droid at its core.

[@jojoofangband7582]

Agreed! It makes him seem overly vulnerable with the reduced mobility

[@ginolibang6069]

Which is exactly why Mando was so opposed to the idea. But at the end of the day, Grogu is a kid, and kids love toys.

[@Homie1Kenobie]

But now he can run🤷🏻‍♂️… idk I love it so I’m probably reaching lol

[@sleinadb]

Agree. He needed to move the Yes NO buttons to the bassinet. 😂

[@hellfish2309]

I’m convinced it’s Captain Warlock, the leader of the hovercraft Mandos: he’s the one who led them to the Great Forge where Gideon’s goon squad jumped them

[@str8slayn1]

Ya know, I was thinking grogu couldn't weild the darksaber because it's too big for him. But, he can weild it now with his IG suit. I wonder if they're setting up a grogu darksaber rescue for someone

[@malloryjostes2129]

How did Gideon know that Bo had the dark saber? I, at first, thought Gideon kept Din in that room bc he wanted to battle HIM for it, since the last time he saw it, he had lost it to Din. But this episode, he specifically called out Bo for having the Dark Saber.

[@bens.6458]

Yep, fishy

[@ShizuruNakatsu]

I love how you're both named after Star Wars planets (Voss and Nevarro) 😂

[@Booger414]

Or were the planets named after them?

[@icehunter1329]

The Armorer is too obvius. What about Axe Woves being the spy? Wasn't he the one who said he was present when Mandalore was destroyed? Yet he survived.

[@armchairwarrior963]

The spy is probably one of the survivors.

[@tattltal]

I think it’s all the survivors.

[@SolemnOath0321]

It is the armorer and…..Din. I do not have enough space to explain, but think about the opening sequence with the helmets. Bad guys are red and good guys are blue. Dins helmet has always been red. Also, why did they want to kill everyone, but Din is captured and sent to the “Debriefing” room. Debriefing is what you do to a spy when they get back to their base. Interrogation room is where you put prisoners you want to question.

[@Cwronaga216]

I'm pretty sure the spies were the Mandalorian survivors that led them to the forge because if they had been there and they would know about Gideon's hidden base and the armorer unwittingly just led the spies to the fleet

[@ginolibang6069]

This. Some people were saying "but they didn't go underground, so they didn't see Moff Gideon." They saw the Gauntlet and the landing party, you don't think they saw Gideon bringing in his fleet of TIE Interceptors and bombers?

[@mattpenn3972]

Good spies always slip away before the trap gets set. The armorer avoids it by shuttling injured away, and Ax Woves volunteers to leave and get help at the very start of the battle before the trap. You can decide between these two candidates by noting that in the show's introductory sequence, good and bad characters are identified by the color of the light saber reflections sweeping across their faces... it's not the armorer.

[@emperorduffman4415]

There is a red lightsaber over din.....

[@jann326]

Why go down there with them at all?

[@johnvosarogo1785]

It's Ax or at least one of the other night owls. They're the only ones in a position to inform Gideon of what he knew (bo having the saber and the mission to mandalore) but also not in a position to inform him of what he didn't know (defeat of the pirates). Noone else checks all those boxes

[@revan.3994]

The only other Mandalorian who has a digital display in his chest armor is Boba Fett... I find it a cool detail in Gideon's armor!... and what a frickin armor this is!

[@FREAKY12]

My favorite part of the whole episode was when they used one of my favorite lines from the KOTOR games, "For Mandalore!"

[@JordonHuff]

Note that at the beginning of the episode during the helmet flash intro, the Armorers helmet is still flashed in blue, and the mystery mando helmet flashed in red doesn’t look like Gideon’s Mauldalorian helmet so…. 👀 the traitor is still unknown

[@magister343]

Historically the term "Necromancy" generally referred to the occult art of divination by means of consulting the spirits of the dead, not the art of reviving dead/undead bodies. The "mancy" part comes from the Greek term μαντεία for divination or prophecy.

[@luisescalante2063]

Yes! Thrawn wants a dead army, that’s our first breadcrumb of the dark magic that is about to make its debut in live action

[@scaryghost5721]

Considering Dave Filoni make Ahsoka into Gandalf of Star Wars Universe. Ahsoka The Grey became Ahsoka The White, both death but higher power bring them back to live. just like Necromancer in the Hobbit is Sauron who is returning from the spirit realm, Necromancer in this is Palpatine.

[@ERRonLoad]

The Mandalorians now have a livable, working imperial base that they can takeover.. and reclaim their world from there. All I hope for the next episode is they regroup and go full on battle mode against Gideon, we get some space battles, we get ground battles, Grogu fighting the Praetorian Guard in his mech.. and a final 1v1 between Bo and Gideon.

[@TankerGeneral_71]

THIS… I love this so much

[@corycesare8821]

One thing you guys didn't mention. If the Mandalorians survive that attack. Bo-Katan's leadership will be called into question again for taking them into an ambush

[@Aelq]

This episode was one of the best of the series definitely

[@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968]

It's far more likely that Axe Woves is the spy.

[@seniorgarsijarodrigez6420]

Dudes! Title can also refer to Gideon as a spy since he's talking about himself having a net of spies all around the galaxy? He sees himself like a master spy working from the shadows and being sort of like Varys from GoT

[@IceCold_Carter]

The spy is Greef and here’s why -History of hating Mandolarians & was going to betray Din -Got booze from Coruscant(Same Planet Kane is on) -Probably needs the protection from Moff for his planet(He knows Moff is free)

[@Booger414]

I never got the whole idea of him and Din being friends. He was a crime boss, he hired Din (and possibly other Mandalorians) as bounty hunters. Then he goes "Legit" and suddenly he is a buddy worthy of the classic buddy cop movies. So I can see him being the spy, but if so he would have needed much more screen time.

[@sambunk2937]

How did Moff Gideon know that Bo Katan had the dark saber unless someone told him

[@davidwang531]

Watch season2

[@clintbrew]

​@@davidwang531din djarin had the dark saber at the end of s2, and din only just gave bo the saber after axe contested bo for leader ship

[@johnvosarogo1785]

My guess is the mystery spy is one of the night owls. They're the only mandalorians with ships and if Gideon was rescued by mandalorians (the piece of beskar left on the shuttle) only the night owls have ships to accomplish that (that we know of)

[@adamH.1]

Guys guys think. Obviously Hux's father will enter the room in the middle of a fight and yell "I'M THE SPY!"

[@bobvondurfel4525]

🤣

[@Ha-qw2kc]

Maybe they wrote the armorer betraying everyone so pedro could ditch the cult and take his helmet off.

[@lanat9064]

In Season 2, Gideon knew all of Don’s movements. It hints to Axe Woves being the spy- or Koska. Or the armorer put some tracking stuff on Mando’s gear??

[@HawkStorm87]

I think the other spies are the mandalorian survivor that meet Bo and the others. They did lead them right to the Imps, which just happens to be near the forge. Moff did thank them for bringing them to him.

[@doubleupload5620]

When Din was tied up I was expecting Gideon to remove his helmet to embarrass him like din did to him but his plot armor saved him instead

[@silverdoe3658]

I admit I was a bit sad, I want to see Pedro’s face this season.

[@orien2v2]

Ya'll got distracted by the Armourer... there are two obvious signs way clearer than the Armourer's suspicious actions. First was that Gideon was surprised by the Mandalorians coming together to ward off the pirates. He didn't need to pretend to be surprised in that scene. He was alone. And he was fuming at the meeting after receiving the news the Mandalorians are now a riding threat. Second, the survivors conveniently appearing to greet them, and their willingness to bring Bo to the forge. One even gave the other the signal to do something. It's just that simple. They're the spies. Heck, the survivors the Armourer brought up to the ship might be as well. They're locals who have learned to survive for decades after their leader abandoned them on an apocalyptic planet. They will do anything to survive including collaborating with the enemy.

[@johnvosarogo1785]

My thoughts exactly when it comes to the armorer but I don't think it's the survivors either. They couldn't have known Bo had the dark saber until they met on mandalore. I'm putting my money on one of the night owls

[@jake_gon_jinn]

When Dave and Jon are working together, magic happens! I'm starting to believe that Moff Gideon was a Maul supporter back in the day. I mean those horns on his helmet has to mean sth.

[@KadenStaab]

Grogu and Bo are going to get the Mythosaur. Boba is coming. Thrawn will appear. LETS FUCKIN GO!!!!!! p.s. sorry for the language just too dang excited right now but also slightly worried for our Din.

[@davidwang531]

Yep mythosaur will definitely come in clutch

[@Duzz14]

Anyone else notice The Armourer’s jetpack? It looks very similar to Rook Kast’s in the comics and season 7 of clone wars. It’s a pretty unique design, I feel like that wasn’t an accident

[@Jdfuller82]

I'm with you Eric. I also think the armorer is a spy especially after this episode.

[@cirelancaster]

Axe Woves seems more likely, he bounced as soon as they popped the trap.

[@johnvosarogo1785]

It's definitely a night owl. If it was the armorer Gideon would've known about Navarro. It's probably not the survivors since they don't know anything being that they're stuck on mandalore

[@dtlong77]

I was waiting for one of the troopers to remove their helmet to reveal a de-aged Gideon. He said the difference with the beskar now is that he's inside it - They're ALL GIDEON CLONES

[@topnotchchriss3153]

If the armorer was a spy working for Gideon… why was he so surprised that the mandalorians were United together!?

[@dankorn]

I like the idea that the Armorer is a Manchurian Candidate. Or should I say, a Mandalorian Candidate.

[@808rocker808]

Was waiting for this reaction video all day straight after watching the episode

[@jeffrey88888]

When you think about it, the Armorer we know may not be the one building the suits. There must be hundreds of Armorers that lived on Mandalore to make so many pieces of armor to its people. The Imperial base was built right next to the great forge. It could have been those captured by the Imperials to build armor.

[@theblindbuildergrandminuti5648]

There aren’t a lot of great motivations for the armor. I think about this the droid that was trying to drain Mando’s blood might have been an remnant trap, and there might of been other people who came to the plant doing the same thing Din and Bo tire to do. Mof-G forewarning about the Mandalorian arrival. The “survivors” could easily have been super commandos.

[@solvseus]

Fans last week: ugh, that episode was too silly. Fans this week: 🥺

[@caligui]

Remember what bo said.."only a mandalorian can defeat them, no enemy can." Had to be survivors.

[@johnvosarogo1785]

The survivors dont make for good spies since they've been stuck on mandalore

[@devinkoff]

I think spies could be those “survived” Mandalorians

[@wizkid8422]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assumed those empire Mando-troopers were not just soldiers in beskar but they're actually a faction of mandalorians who just sided with the empire since the purge, I remember in Rebels there were a squad of mandos loyal to the empire who tried to take down Sabeen and the Ren clan....so they are in fact mandos too right? But I honestly have no clue

[@s1ngh77]

Best episode by far this season

[@SomFin_]

100%

[@StrickenGhoul]

I feel like the Armorer is still a DeathWatch loyalist and after hearing of Bo's surrender wanted to contact the other few Deathwatch members hiding in the clan.

[@Hotteststewpot]

I mean for seasons ppl have pointed out the maul spikes in the armorers helm and the similiarity to maul’s deathwatch. And now we see a Moff using the same Maul spikes. At the very least, I think they are trying to say that they could be in cahoots.

[@FordLancer]

What a twist would it be if Gideon and the Armorer were secret members of the crimson dawn.

[@ja345701]

The “mandalorians” on the surface that never left were the spies imo. They had to know about the imperial base, and they may have been leading the team into the trap set for them. And they maybe knew the weak would be sent to the fleet and send fleet location to imperial forces. These “mandalorians” were converted to the empire and helped create beskar armor for the storm troopers - someone had to teach them how to emulate mandalorians

[@ryno1509]

Axe and the Armourer both absent from the Trap one from each tribe the episode was called Spies and with the night owls leaving Bo they should have both been in leadership positions

[@amcgee1631]

I love both of you guys. Love seeing your commentary together. Y'all rule!!!❤❤❤

[@SenatorLeiaOrganaSolo]

We NEED Rae Sloane in that meeting

[@Homie1Kenobie]

Right!

[@fresh2924]

awesome to see you over here hector!

[@wiseman171]

The only spy is Hector. He reacted to this episode on two channels, very sus.

[@chickenpit9991]

Axe Woves seems suspicious too, he's the first one that volunteered to leave and call for reinforcements, Maybe with the the knowledge that they are walking into an ambush

[@DrewTrox]

At some point in the Star Wars universe, I want to see the Emperor return as a red force ghost.

[@iMadrid11]

There are Empire informants all over Nevarro. Like one of the mechanics who placed a tracker on Djin’s Razer Crest when it went for repairs.

[@nitap.2274]

Peli said that there isn't that part anymore. BUT... there's a workshop full of high experts Ugnaughts fixing imperial droids in Plazir-15 👀👀👀👀

[@michaelgage652]

I thought that’s where fixing the ig droid would head. He needed the droid fixed. He happens upon a whole city fixing old droid with a the very race doing the fixing as the one that reprogrammed IG in the first place BOOM. Fixed ig-11. Nope.

[@AFoxInFlames]

I cried so hard at the end, RIP Vizla

[@michaelmcculley7880]

I think Jack and Lizzo will bring an army of Droids that save Din.

[@cloud2537]

I think Dinn is an unaware spy, he was taken to the debriefing room.

[@stephenasmith3011]

Prediction: Mando will be put through a mind-flare. "Ultron-->Vision" type scene with interruptions. Causing mando to become a villain (which explains the red mando helmet on the opening, which is not Gideos since it didn't have spikes). Gideon and his forces will retreat along with Mando in an exciting battle featuring the Mythosaur. The rest of the Mandalorians will rebuild Mandalore, and there will be a scene where Grogu uses the force to try to make mando remember his past, setting up Mando for season 4.

[@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968]

This is what I want. I'm not sure whether they'd go there though.

[@str1k3r_67]

I really like how the troopers are wearing the same armor the Imperial Mandalorians that Gar Saxon lead wore