MARVEL WHAT IF Episode 5 BREAKDOWN! Easter Eggs & Details You Missed!

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[@KIXVNG__Reacts]

Episode five was a lil sad in crazy

[@Try-hard-emily]

Ok

[@tombplayer6911]

Hi

[@Earth-uu3nf]

M'kay

[@Try-hard-emily]

@@KIXVNG__Reacts not as good as ep 4

[@ComicalRealm]

"This is so dark. Are you sure you're not from the DC Universe?" - Deadpool

[@jsxr8917]

4th Wall = Broken.

[@bromodragone8405]

No. I wish there was a DC Zombiverse.

[@congospartan3425]

@@bromodragone8405 DCeased, they have a comic one by that name

[@diamond-leigh2667]

@@congospartan3425 smart ay

[@aelbion1453]

For all we know, DC is just one possible timeline in the MCMultiverse! I think that was suggested at some point in the comics (both Marvel and DC), but I'm not familiar with them so take that with a grain of salt.

[@iamgroot2810]

Bucky handling the shield all by himself was dope. Loved him in this episode.

[@sergeantsainsburys9181]

Caps death was also cool the way he slide off the sheild

[@davidmarvericksleftnostril822]

Yea he was awsome i think he is still alive tho he didnt die with one hard hit

[@iamgroot2810]

@@davidmarvericksleftnostril822 No body shown = alive

[@NorthernLaw_]

Exactly what we wanted

[@wiseguy3675]

Thanks for the shield. I'm keeping this.

[@everettsampson3578]

I think the watcher is getting tired of the bad reality’s and is getting closer and closer to intervening within every episode

[@obviouslyPSM]

I thought the same thing. It feels like with every episode you can see him either more often in the episode or larger in the frame cuz ya know, he’s closer

[@defyjr.5553]

@@obviouslyPSM he literally talked to strange in episode 4

[@thefundipwitdachedda1461]

Oh damn eh never noticed that😂😂😂😂

[@ginyuraiyuden1104]

@@defyjr.5553 he didn’t completely change things tho

[@jeffboi5577]

"What is he doing?" "He's beginning to believe." Watcher: "I've seen too much dumb shit in my life, make it stop, please-"

[@havingaparty21]

I thought it was funny the way Banner said “don’t eat me, don’t eat me” to Spidey mimicked the way Peter said “please don’t put your eggs in me” to Mantis at the Attack on Titan.

[@antoniotoni1839]

I see what you did here

[@loganbigmo]

I guess you could call Guardians vs. Avengers an "Attack on Titan"

[@vinyliceagle6708]

You really had to say attack on titan didn't you lmao

[@hey_hey4394]

you capitalized Atttack and Titan on purpose didnt you...

[@fryPS]

I had a stroke reading this until I got the joke

[@finnanimations1334]

I feel like if tony were to be infected, Friday would put the suit on "Lockdown" mode to prevent whatever tony was infected with from spreading, by Lockdown i of course mean that the suit would turn into a statue like state

[@suryakisku3895]

there are loop holes that r not explained dont kno why

[@teh_pug643]

@@suryakisku3895 well it is a what if story

[@catmario-_3170]

My question how would were Zombies even able to pierce and bite through Iron Man's Nanotech suit?

[@lordvecna8837]

Yeah, like that one cannibal comic. You guys know the one.

[@Devakiinable]

Seems like a way to have a hacker freeze his suit. Maybe if it was someone else using it, but it being tony with his dna im sure it overrides Friday by default

[@joeyclemenza7339]

T'challa's words on death never being the end was especially sad.... though uplifting, as Chadwick Boseman's death is still felt largely by his fans. he's truly missed...

[@theflashgirl2057]

The actor never died. Just ascended.

[@mr.nicewatch4432]

@Shoenheim just couldn’t help yourself huh?

[@burneyboys02]

Boseman Forever🙅🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️

[@davidm4566]

It's more heartfelt, because those weren't actually T'Challa's words, they were Chadwick's. In his culture (follower of Christ), death is not the end, but the beginning.

[@Ringohulk777]

Death isn't the end when you become a zombie

[@Spoofman62]

I liked Peter and hopes friendship, they were like brother and sister, it’s sad what had happened. “Keep smiling Peter”

[@youknow_nothing]

What I like about this episodes are the odd interactions we wouldn't see on the movies for multiple reasons.

[@vegardnybakeri8148]

@@youknow_nothing same

[@Spoofman62]

@@youknow_nothing same, I want to see this in the movies, it’s a W friendship

[@officialomatu8766]

Insects of a thorax, got each other's backs

[@deadlyfaster7347]

I felt like they had something going, at that point sadly it didn't last. When hope sacrifices herself to give everyone else a chance, I actually wanted to cry from it😢

[@deadlyfaster7347]

I swear vision dying has got to be a running joke now, like HOW MANY TIME MUST THEY KILL HIM OFF?!!

[@captain_blueyt6113]

Is this just going to be a "absolute point" now? Like he has died 4 times in screen. Let's not even talk about the comics.

[@deadlyfaster7347]

@@captain_blueyt6113 twice in IW in the span of 30 seconds, once in Wandavision then AGAIN here like WTF?!!

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Uncle Ben:" Oh, tell me more."

[@MHMarvin]

@@deadlyfaster7347 He died twice in Wandavision xD When he escaped the hex, he died but got resurrected by its expandment

[@lefantomer]

@@deadlyfaster7347 Trying to beat Loki's record.

[@TaylorAP13]

T'Challa's "Death is just a stepping off point" quote holds so much more weight with Chadwick's passing. I get little chills whenever he says it. Definitely going to miss not having him in the MCU (and on this planet)... WAKANDA FOREVER!

[@terminatedcheese6227]

When t challa said that death isn’t the end in the cartoon I felt like it was Chadwick saying good bye

[@ArcDeity]

I needed a minute after that

[@aidankreltszheim3599]

I was surprised by how quickly Bucky killed cap. He didn’t even hesitate

[@MunchaBuncha]

Would you hesitate when your best friend is about to kill you

[@jasonho9332]

What was interesting was he actually was capable to swing the shield back the moment he caught it (and slice Cap). Makes me wonder if part of him recognized/hesitate in Captain America : The Winter Soldier when he caught the shield

[@Awesome_Pichu]

@@MunchaBuncha He probably had to realize it wasn't Steve just like everyone else the group knew

[@zeeshanismail7768]

he actually learned his lesson with falcon as he saw dora milaje cut him in half without hesitation

[@laundrybasketgamers]

Hesitation is defeat

[@PhantoRoyce]

Bucky was having PTSD moments this entire time. When he said “I should be sad,but I’m not” is because he’s USED to seeing people he cares for die. Notice that he doesn’t hesitate to kill anyone,even cap. It’s because he’s on red alert from his time in the war.

[@justarandomrat9736]

Damn...

[@gely_]

Yeah or the fact that theyre ZOMBIES everywhere and trying to kill/ eat him????? No one needs PTSD to not hesitate to kill a fking zombie

[@sunilchitolie6771]

@@gely_ just cuz they’re Zombies doesn’t erase the fact that they were once innocent humans. And with the possibility of a cure it could be difficult to kill them, especially ones close to you

[@vincentfreddoyle7555]

@@gely_ Vision didnt kill wanda ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MrBrothasky]

Y'all are assuming that Geltab thought any further than this comment.

[@Spariteo]

Peter and Hope's almost motherly or even sister like relationship was so touching, that "smile for me peter" scene was so sad.

[@fahriandikadir5799]

Or they're relationship is ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@flxkeyjpeg]

@@fahriandikadir5799 frr

[@sethurott9927]

@@fahriandikadir5799 he’s underaged….

[@fahriandikadir5799]

@@sethurott9927 even better

[@sethurott9927]

@@fahriandikadir5799 you’re weird bruh. Get that checked out.

[@LingormR.666]

The “Blam! Blam! Blam!” thing Happy does is what Rocket has done in the comics. “Blam! Murdered you! Blam! Blam!”

[@aestrophilic3313]

That is definitely something Rocket would say, they could've added this to GOTG

[@sm0key152]

@@aestrophilic3313 they are still doing another film, they probably will.

[@leard6611]

Blam reminded me of Wham Bam Shang-A-Lang from Awesome Mix vol. 2

[@Pointman11111]

Reminds of Deadpool in his videogame "Pew" "Pew" "Pew"

[@RyanisrealProduction]

04:50 - Hope says she's "All that's left." Meaning HOPE is all that's left in the world. 17:34 - The sun sets on Hope. Meaning all HOPE is lost, and this is the end of this world.

[@Bomber13009]

15:02. I see it like this: Thanos went to get the Time Stone, but was infected maybe before or after he got it. Once he got it, he could use the soul stone to find the nearest humans on the planet, and the largest density of them would be in Wakanda, since it was the last sanctuary.

[@domblue]

Cracked up when Scott shouted “Wingardium Leviosa” lol

[@amunRa95]

On bloods

[@khyatiiiiiii]

I know right!

[@cadenbagasao9344]

“No one asked your opinion. You filthy little mud blood.”

[@LOL-dg9kq]

@Tyco Zer0 backfires

[@danielvictorson]

......

[@domblue]

Things we learned from this episode: 1- Wong really has a thing for Cull obsidian's hand 2- Uncle Ben actually exists in the MCU 3- Scott is the head of the team now

[@navaneethvijayan9456]

3rd one 🤣

[@basedbattledroid3507]

It's nice that the avengers have such a headstrong leader.

[@jchampagne5715]

69 likes

[@Chris_IsBoard]

how many fuckin comments are you going to leave on this one video?

[@sheepastley]

*existed

[@endarasman]

The animation team must be so in love with Bucky. They make him looks gorgeous

[@sylviatamieanan4088]

The template doesn't make it that hard

[@kennyteeology3526]

Sort of like Thor in the Avengers dying episode.

[@aestrophilic3313]

Wym? He IS gorgeous

[@iamgroot2810]

I mean it's Sebastian Stan we're talking about. He's basically a Romanian god.

[@Mike90317]

Party Thor with this Bucky fighting together, oh my.

[@RaistliniltsiaR]

MISSED DETAIL: Peter’s instructional video was headed with a puppeted zombie going “grr... argh” across the screen, a nod to Joss Whedon’s production company, Mutant Enemy.

[@michaelj.newman5985]

I noticed the same thing when I first watched it! I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned in the video

[@colinray4186]

I had to pause that for a minute because I was like "Really?"

[@taterbeard]

this episode truly had it all. Was one of the funnier episodes to far, had drama, emotion, twists, good action, hulk fighting wanda, what more could we ask for.

[@nerds-nonsense]

only thing missing was a plot that works

[@cosmicmaster1006]

@@nerds-nonsense how does the plot not work

[@smopal6418]

@@nerds-nonsense it was only 30 minutes

[@nerds-nonsense]

@@smopal6418 yes. what is your point?

[@domblue]

Not all heroes wear capes. Sometimes they’re just capes.

[@lokiisbae3465]

Ok i chuckled more than i like to admit

[@SnorlaxWhisperer]

Not all capes are worn by heroes

[@morrissuah9587]

@@SnorlaxWhisperer 😳

[@houndandhandbag]

It takes Edna Mode's "No capes!" rule personally.

[@elizatoponce9375]

Honestly that cape is one of my favorite marvel characters

[@jessehugley7609]

I guess that What If loves to pin the demise of the Avengers on Hank Pym. Esp. 3 because he's seeking revenge from Hope's death and Esp.5 as he tries to bring his wife back from the quantum realm.

[@sergeantsainsburys9181]

Pyms pribably the person who zombiefied thanos knowing hos skin is oretty tough

[@alexandragreen7990]

Considering Hank Pym is the literal worst in the comics, this seems like a fun way to honor that in the mcu

[@CC-ii1sy]

I think we need to keep an eye on him from now on.

[@tamelaculp57]

Hank is unstable in the Marvel Comics. He created Ultron, not Tony and Bruce. He has been off and on an absolute hot mess over the years. “What If…” is just scratching the surface of his deviant nature.

[@officialomatu8766]

@@tamelaculp57 Really? I knew he made Ultron and eventually became Yellow Jacket but I thought he was driven to that point and deep down was still a good person. What are some of the things he'd done?

[@Dan-qd3qb]

I think it’s also fair to mention how Scott’s head being kept alive could be a nod to how in the comics similarly Janet Van Dyne’s zombified head was kept alive.

[@candyeeznuts27]

hehe "nod"

[@steverogers6572]

@@candyeeznuts27 he did it again lol

[@dazzly6109]

Yesss

[@frankycheifsosa8946]

So was Deadpool's!

[@kiwi7090]

@@frankycheifsosa8946 that was different

[@acousticpineapple7851]

south african here, tula literally means "quiet" - shes telling him to stop talking lol

[@hey_hey4394]

its from an old lullaby the mother sing tula like a sort of sshhhh

[@ziyandakhwela430]

Thula*

[@IronIsKing]

Thats literally what he said, its more like shhhhh.

[@greggraham6963]

Hopefully Peter shows Thor his survival guide and if Thor comes back he goes for the head lol

[@cohenmcmods5194]

Scott’s head lol

[@domblue]

I really hope Peter & Hope interact more in the Sacred Timeline. Hope’s motherly relationship towards Peter was heart-warming……& eventually heart-breaking.

[@jatensubii]

Maybe Peter was tapping that 👀

[@DayFlounder]

@@jatensubii peter is 16 in infinity war…

[@fastman7053]

@@jatensubii no

[@deltaid1439]

@@jatensubii damn

[@loganbigmo]

@@jatensubii ew he's a minor

[@joshuarocks6964]

The only thing that bothered me in this episode was that the Avengers decided to land right in the middle of a zombie horde without a second thought.

[@sergeantsainsburys9181]

Geuss they didnt know what was up

[@powerrangernerd8122]

Really? I'm still wondering how Tony got infected. He's got Nano armor!!

[@defyjr.5553]

@@powerrangernerd8122 maybe Hank did it, the super small one that bit cap

[@madelinehermosa8832]

​@@powerrangernerd8122 maybe the other avengers got infected first then turned him?

[@psl6145]

@@powerrangernerd8122 Zombie Cap, probably. I doubt Hank can get small enough to fit through the nanotech, but Cap may be able to force open a small window to bite him through.

[@spiderslayer3640]

I love how T’Challa’s Civil War callback dialogue also serves as another loving tribute to Chadwick Boseman

[@RowFourBOYSATDABAK]

Missed detail: Hope’s “maybe you’ll grow into it” is a callout to Aunt May’s “it’ll grow on you” referring to Peter wearing E.D.I.T.H.

[@frogator22]

I just noticed that when Wong is decapitated by the portal, the Cloak of Levitation closes the portal by spinning Wong, making him close the portal

[@eduardvandenheever8565]

Great detail

[@peterskorec8246]

When bucky said “guess this is the end of the line pal!” Booooooom looking for this! Moment

[@anthonyambrose7830]

That was garbage. He seemed not sad at all

[@Phelie315]

@@anthonyambrose7830 I yelled at the screen because it was such a terrible moment

[@waverider6302]

I think it’s because of screen he came to terms with the fact he was gone. He may of even prepared to fight him

[@ladytd23]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@anthonyambrose7830]

@@waverider6302 I'm sure he would have but his tone was off. It seemed almost antagonistic. The time for this episode was way off. The black panther twist was from the comic and it's so dark compared to the rest of the episode you can tell. Peter in that story legit brought tears to my eyes this was pathetic

[@shadd.6693]

When Hope told Peter, “ You’ll grow into it” I took it as a callback to Into the Spider-Verse when Stan Lee told him about the costume “You’ll grow into, they always do…” or something of that nature.

[@TheFrozenFlame05]

and also the caped spidey costume from the comics (i think) that was also in spiderverse

[@me104th]

i don’t think that was peter

[@joshuastoute8762]

@@me104th It was miles

[@sinteleon]

@@joshuastoute8762 Yes, but still a spider-person.

[@joshuastoute8762]

@@sinteleon I know, I was responding to someone else.

[@mtl47]

Shout out to the Cloak of Levitation for coming up with the clutch help in the last 2 episodes.

[@scarlettwitch1472]

Cloak of Levitation is Lub❤️

[@basedbattledroid3507]

I feel like Wanda and Vision's relationship after Infinity War is just doomed to keep destroying innocent people's lives

[@mkg2124]

And yet I still want them to have a happy ending no matter what 😭

[@was3513]

Did anyone else notice the deep dent in Zombie Falcon's head? It looks like it was from Cap's sheild to me. Maybe he went to check on Cap, then Cap knocked him out and ate most of his left arm?

[@was3513]

@Romanogers4ever heeeey you could be right.

[@fathertoop4659]

@Romanogers4ever he's carrying a tank ready to drop it on the zombies and then say "boom are you looking for this"

[@chaotic-doxxer]

@@fathertoop4659 I understood that reference

[@KaijuKingTheRisen]

I really like Peter and Hope’s relationship, they were kinda like brother and sister.

[@whiterunguard6415]

Nope

[@franklinperez4970]

I was thinking mom and Son

[@landonreed3702]

Is feeling step siblings

[@tophfb]

@@landonreed3702 😂😂😂

[@kingofnothing4546]

Nope, they had a more mom and son kinda vibe

[@Unicorn-Vibes]

I'm honestly surprised noone has talked about how in spiderverse there was the joke about a spiderman with a cape, and in what if, Peter wears the cloak of levitation.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Correction: The Cloak wears Spidey.

[@Unicorn-Vibes]

I rewatched this episode and I can't help but hear zombie Tony stark at one point saying blam while he's firing his repulsor

[@gamerroyale828]

Miles Morales watching the episode: hey peter... ... *I think this is a cape.*

[@agerars3361]

Eriks attention to detail is so immaculate👏, the fact that you researched a Zulu lullaby is very impressive.

[@bensenzo]

Hey. A South African here😃😃

[@Jealod24]

It’s a KZbin channel with millions of subs, and their main goal is to break down all aspects of movies and shows… he has a staff research each frame. It’s what the channel is suppose to do.

[@samarthgoel5835]

well you dont get 3M subscribers by just plummeting obvious details

[@vyneshindenmc6181]

@@Jealod24 thank you Mr.obvious

[@elck3]

@@Jealod24 I don’t think he has a staff. Based on everything he’s said over the last couple of years, it seems he’s the only one doing this research. You can see how in tune he is with this stuff when you listen to his reaction videos, which are mostly 'live'

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

14:00 Not true. In _Antman and The Wasp_ when they're running through the school and Scott's regulator is malfunctioning there's a scene where they're in a custodial closet, Scott enlarges, hits his head on the ceiling, *and his helmet comes off.* He stays like that for a good 15 seconds while Hope fixes his suit and they do a little Marvel "haha funny" gag. It's at timestamp 37:50 in the movie, if anyone's interested.

[@Lux961]

Yeah I was confused about that.

[@Ejaz100]

Ki- Adi- Mundi? What are you doing here

[@BlackVeilSavior]

@@Ejaz100 he is here yes but what about the Wookiee’s?!

[@Ejaz100]

@@BlackVeilSavior I'm pretty sure they're enslaved

[@pedrojose660]

Pretty sure the suit is meant to be a way to prevent your mind from going insane or something, if you needed the suit for shrinking than those discs things shouldnt work on ants or whatever, at least I remember that being the explanation in antman 1

[@lilliannjerimaina2676]

I love how MARVEL isn't lazy with the series. They really putting in effort and love in every episode so far

[@russiankodiak6849]

Of What If? Yeah. Loki and Falcon? No

[@GeEmTeVe]

@@russiankodiak6849 loki and falcon and winter soldier was great what are you talking about.

[@russiankodiak6849]

@@GeEmTeVe They weren’t amazing. They were just average. What If is fire, it reflects the creativity and thought that went into it also the fact that they aren’t limited by budget and CGI like the live actions are.

[@izzym6422]

For what it is I think it’s great but I feel like it could’ve been so much better if they weren’t half length episodes. Some things that should be more impactful just aren’t. Theres only so much you can focus on in half an hour and then sometimes the depth for certain plot twists or things I thought could’ve got us a lot more invested

[@iamgroot2810]

@@russiankodiak6849 None of the shows were perfect, but they were still pretty good imo, way better than half the MCU movies out there. I personally loved the shows, they had a lot of great moments, but of course everyone has different opinions.

[@AlexAppleby]

17:03 may be a callback to when Rocket stopped Gamora from trying to save Peter and then says "I can only afford to lose one friend today" maybe clutching at straws here but idk.

[@dannyosullivan412]

I thought this too when I saw the episode! I was looking for someone I'm the comments to say it

[@kingofnothing4546]

You missed how when Peter says "I can't loose another friend today" it's similar to rocket saying that in guardians 2

[@eringriffin5358]

The “no we have American reality shows” line was golden 😂😂

[@TheKingofHearts777]

I agree, 100%!!!

[@philipthesquid4979]

Boom goes the dynamite

[@latinbeandip]

Jersey shore on its own should be terrifying

[@nightwhelmed]

Why didn't FRIDAY disassemble the suit the second Tony turned to make him less of a threat to any survivors?

[@kits8276]

I have been wondering the same damn thing.

[@xavierbell1996]

im still confused how a GENIUS in a layered nanotech suit that can FLY isnt one of the last survivors during something like this 😂😂

[@jadehawk8162]

@@xavierbell1996 his suits seem a bit vulnerable to tiny antmen. see: civil war and endgame. he probably got bitten by hank.

[@nightwhelmed]

@@jadehawk8162 yeah but this suit is made with nanotech. It's completely air-tight. It shouldn't be vulnerable to them.

[@kits8276]

@@xavierbell1996 When i think about it, perhaps Strange saved him by a portal to inform Tony of what's happening simillar to how it went down in the beginning of Infinity War. But maybe something happened where Strange or Wong got infected. When tony takes off his mask to talk with them he gets bit. Why FRIDAY doesn't deactivate the suit I don't know.

[@Vain06]

14:23 I love how the X Con raises his hand to ask what encephalopathy means & Spidy answers it's brain stuff. Exactly what I & thousands of others would have reacted XD

[@threestackz]

You guys should make video, and the question you guys discuss is “ Is Wanda and Vision not being able to be together an absolute point?”

[@scarlettwitch1472]

Yes. It is.

[@ryanthaiable]

now that's called critical thinking. amazing catch

[@that1cat999]

Was honestly surprised Peter didn’t use the pun: “It’ll cost you a arm and a leg”. Also, I NEED HAPPY’S SHIRT!!!

[@sylviatamieanan4088]

Thank you! I thought nobody would mention that shirt!

[@sylviatamieanan4088]

@GillDRAW_INC And preferably choose a better avenger in the process

[@ThesupernaturalStrigoispida]

Ok yes happys shirt is pretty funny but our of the whole fricking presentation on how to survive long sleeves they mentioned that and he didn't change shirts like wtf

[@bendavies6510]

when Peter said that line about not having horror movies in Wakanda, it reminded me of that scene in agents of shield when Mack said "hell nah we're sticking together. have you ever seen an alien movie?"

[@steverogers6572]

hahah Mack and Yoyo always talking about horror movie tropes. My favorite one was when Mack cut Aidas head and said "Roll Credits" lol

[@CharlieCorrigan-pu5np]

I just wanna talk about Vision ripping out the Mind Stone for a second: if he could do it himself then wHY DID HE MAKE WANDA DO IT

[@magikarpgod9361]

Because he can only remove it not destroy it and Wanda had to destroy it

[@Doonesh]

“Cabin in The Woods starring Thor” This was actually hilarious

[@nate-bc9zw]

When you realize this is the fourth time we’ve had to watch Vision die

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

Vision's death is an absolute point.

[@justarandomrat9736]

The sad part is he killed himself ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ

[@steverogers6572]

this bot just wont stay dead

[@LuminousBorah]

@@steverogers6572 I am Groot

[@marcusyates3044]

Wasp: "Peter... Smile... Smile for me, okay?"

[@xavierpaddie9370]

we DEFINITELY need a part 2 of this episode!!

[@rjtavares1480]

I mean, we need a Part 2 to basically every episode so far

[@jakovteklic2212]

Fr

[@Earth-uu3nf]

I feel like season 2 of What if would be part 2 of all the episode

[@albertattack4112]

Ye this is a major cliff hanger

[@mwheeler37]

@@albertattack4112 that's how a lot of issues of the comic ended too

[@captain_commenter8796]

Some hero’s don’t wear capes *sometimes the hero is the cape*

[@MrProbeNWatch]

T’challa’s speech about death in this episode just hits different given the IRL circumstances and I will admit I cried

[@sh0ts420]

I started this episode still thinking we were going to civil war for the mystery virus but wasn't disappointed in the end 10/10 episode

[@davidm4566]

@Miguel Messina I didn't care for that one too much. It had a good message but was very dark.

[@fix24311]

@Miguel Messina nah… it’s definitely this episode 10/10. They can turn it into a whole movie. There are just so much stuff. Dr. Strange episode was one and done

[@voidhunter9474]

@@fix24311 No is not you Marvel zombie white knights

[@LordofSadFac]

To be fair, Plot Holes are like a signature aspect of Marvel Zombies, so this version having them is quite loyal to the comics.

[@earljames5415]

What plot holes?

[@Cyclone9227]

Like what would happen next.

[@domblue]

The line from Chadwick Boseman: "Death is not the end in my culture" hit so hard this episode. But as always great episode :)

[@Rubii5]

This is the most comments I’ve seen dropped by a single user in a KZbin video. This would be comment numero cinco from you that I’ve seen scrolling down.

[@Rubii5]

@Drifty_Boi dang lol gotta get that clout or ego boost, I suppose lol

[@DiabolikSilhouette]

Best damn episode of "What If...", by far.

[@ItchyPilauBoto]

The one thing i didn’t understand is how Tony was turned into a zombie if hes wearing his armor…

[@fabioriccardo9290]

When he undoards the quinjet Is bitten by antman

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

Something tells me Thanos is cocky enough to let some rogue zombie run up to him and bite him, breaking the flesh, because his mindset is "ha... you think a little bite can hurt me??"

[@zeedstun891]

it begs the question though, was he bit before or after he got the stones? on one hand, thanos should be invincible with that many stones against anyone but the avengers. but thanos is still on his "home" planet. if not, theyre saying zombie thanos collected the infinity stones which, kinda doesnt make sense.

[@davidm4566]

@@zeedstun891 no, he would have gotten them before. It would have actually been interesting to see him come down to Earth and then meet his end at the hands of thousands of zombies. Then the last scene is an abandoned infinity gauntlet lying on the ground. Zombies walk past it unfazed as the camera slowly pans out.

[@Ringohulk777]

All that for a drop... of.... Hrrrrgggghh

[@018_akashgaur4]

@@zeedstun891 Thanos should be almost invincible with the stones yes,but what if he never used them to prevent zombie(s) from having a bite at him just because of his "cockyness" mentioned in the above comment..I guess that's how he prolly turned into a zombie..he collected the stones first,then got bitten by the zombies and turned into one himself.

[@zeedstun891]

@@018_akashgaur4 but heres my issue with that, sure, yes, thanos is cocky but he also has every reason to be as HES STRONGER THAN HULK, the same hulk WHOS SKIN IS BITE PROOF.

[@domblue]

The cloak of levitation is getting some real screen time this series and is becoming an Avenger itself 😂I love it 👏🏽

[@clemstep9941]

Thanos: becomes Zombie. Marvel: lets leave it there.

[@clemstep9941]

@Miguel Messina maybe there will be one maybe not.

[@JonJacobJingleheimer]

You get so caught up in your own theories that you create potholes in the story based on them. Thanos is at Wakanda looking for survivors to eat. He's a zombie and Wakanda is the last stronghold of survivors.

[@MountainWo1f]

Spider man's "I can't lose another friend today" is a call back to gardens of the galaxy 2. Where rocket says the line.

[@luckyDancer100]

I can see why the timekeepers wanted to keep the sacred timeline sacred.

[@five5654]

yeah...

[@ssj4182]

Thor must go for the head this time since Peter says by destroying the head it causes the zombies to stay dead.

[@SingingToast652]

Genius

[@andrewjay2340]

I’m surprised Erik didn’t reference spideys pose with Bruce

[@gaventovar5820]

Also Peters line “I can’t lose another friend today”could be a reference to Rockets line in VOL 2 “I can only afford to lose one friend today”

[@samclifton425]

13:07 wonder who that reminds me of lol

[@mr.slappii513]

When I heard bucky say "End of the Line" for a split second I was wondering if it could also be referencing the TF2 short end of the line since a train played a big roll in the short. But chances are the creators have never even seen the short, heck they might not even know what tf2 is but it's a nice thought to have.

[@vickbenice]

Vision having the mind stone ripped out his head again definitely makes me feel like that's a fixed point in the MCU

[@Mr.Capitalism]

Disney: how many zombie movies references do you want? Marvel: yes

[@freddiemedley5580]

What, they didn’t even have the main ones. There was no Friday the 13th reference, Shaun of the dead,zombie land and there wasn’t even a there coming for you Barbara reference.

[@powerrangernerd8122]

You know, this episode of What If was the first time I actively went to watch something with zombies and wanted to be scared by. Did not disappoint.

[@Ringohulk777]

Same

[@chengkuoklee5734]

I'm not a fan of horror genre and always avoid it but I think I may make exceptions this time.

[@baochulee1124]

“My heart will go on” makes every scene better 😂😂

[@hannahjohnson7777]

Yes, a touching callback to T'challa's sweet words, as well as a reference to Chadwick's passing and the fact that he will always be with us. 😞🥺❤

[@Rowboattt]

8:44 I honestly wonder how Tony was able to get a bite though? lol did they literally pry his armour open?

[@TheFrozenFlame05]

Well thanos was able to smack his armor off, forcing him to use the nanobots from other areas of the suit. I guess like 100 zombies would eventually wear down his armor

[@thamkaijoon4423]

@@TheFrozenFlame05 yea since the armor is still the infinity war armor instead of the endgame one

[@davidm4566]

@@TheFrozenFlame05 maybe he escaped the initial battle only to get bit back home by Pepper. Only thing that makes sense.

[@TheFrozenFlame05]

@@davidm4566 oh, that could work

[@sinteleon]

or maybe someone with the genius of Hank Pym could figure out a way to get through the armour. Like having Zombie Cap do it.

[@sir_soupOG]

So hulk's skin is tough enough to withstand zombie bites but Thanos's... isn't?

[@jadedaugherty6119]

Well it was pointed out in What If ep. 3 that Hulk can't die as it took Hank Pym to inlarge his heart to kill him since bullets never did anything. While in Infinity War, Tony was able to make Thanos bleed a little bit. Not to mention that in the first Averagers, Banner told Natasha he tried to end himself and Hulk spat the bullet back out. So yeah Hulk's skin is pretty tough 😅

[@pedrohenriquemoraessantos1164]

@@jadedaugherty6119 yeah but abomination cut hulk skin

[@winnschott341]

@@pedrohenriquemoraessantos1164 you can argue that maybe Hulk's skin wasn't as though as it is now back in The Incredible Hulk. It is also possible that Abomination is stronger than Hulk physically since he was given a more proper version of the super soldier serum in addition to having what Hulk has from his blood. Plus, he has all those bones portruding out of him which are most certainly sharp.

[@davidm4566]

Exactly, good point! That's the reason Strange couldn't just make a ring portal around Thanos in Infinity War and then close it over his arm to remove the gauntlet (or kill him). He has a thick skin similar to Hulk or Superman that should resist it.

[@captain_blueyt6113]

Well there is a way that It spread to saliva. Even though it doesn't explain how his skin is very clearly broken down and bited on. Unless the "Cosmic Virus" could have somehow weaken his skin? Idk that doesn't seem convincing enough to me. That has to be the only thing that bothers me in this episode.

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

6:55 Or, seeing as the Microverse is one of those places there’s only one of, we see different areas surrounding chronopolis, which different Janets happened to be sent to.

[@morganhalfyard6266]

I feel like that tony starks armour would’ve protected him. Unlike his older armour

[@GSSISC]

Is nobody gonna talk about how zombie cap and captain carter die the same way?

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

I’m not sure if they would make us wait such a long time for the 2nd part of this episode, but maybe they’ll do it next season after more characters have been introduced (because they have to be introduced in the live action MCU first, and then get a What If episode) so that they can have more characters involved in this story

[@xandersoir530]

I believe that because every episode is a different reality, after the end of season 1, I think they will continue on from their respective timelines for upcoming seasons, and never interfere with each other a lot until something occurs in a future film/project, where they're all in the main MCU timeline. At least I would think because every episode ends with a cliffhanger, and it would make sense if they release the second season for it after, rather than disrupting the flow.

[@BStover93]

Newer characters are being introduced 5 years in the future though. Most of these stories are pre-endgame.

[@thewaterguy5741]

The hulk standing up to scarlet witch was awesome and easily the best part of the episode

[@michaeldbookman]

There's actually an unused rail line from when Amtrak ran out of Grand Central that connects to Penn Station, so you can get from Grand Central to NJ.

[@ptiger96]

No, there is not. The writers should have used Moynihan Hall/Penn but got lazy.

[@trilogynybberryb8545]

S to the 1,2 & 3 or A,B,C,D to the Path Train and there you go. Thr NYC Rails can connect. They probably would have needed the Cloak's guidance but not impossible

[@Kn1ghton]

When Scott’s suit was malfunctioning in AM&TW, we saw him grow larger with his helmet not on.

[@memphishurta6889]

13:42 After no way home, this line hurts a lot more

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I was literally thinking of thanos the entire episode and wondering when he'd come into play, so it was funny to me that everyone was talking about how it was a twist

[@charlesdavis8725]

Right. How could an episode of what if taking place during the infinity war timeline not have thanos in it. The very first words spoken(non watcher) is thanos is coming.. definitely not a twist. But a pleasant suprise they saved him for last

[@sinteleon]

@@charlesdavis8725 the twist isn't that he came, but that he's a zombie.

[@charlesdavis8725]

@@sinteleon 4real🤦🏾‍♂️.. your powers of deduction must be other worldly lol.. smh, anyway, some things that are so blatantly obvious need not be said. But if it satisfies you, zombie thanos was not a twist for me. But a pleasant surprise

[@Decoy449]

Who thinks Bucky survived when Wanda threw him away

[@powerrangernerd8122]

I mean, he's basically a super soldier like Cap. And he survived the fall in the first cap movie before being a super human.

[@TheFrozenFlame05]

I mean he survived falling off that train, so maybe. and also if they wanted to kill him, Wanda would have just like imploded him. They clearly dont have a problem with gore cuz Hope exploded Sharon.

[@armaanharoon8458]

He had the shield right so he’ll just use the shield to break his fall

[@xandersoir530]

Not to mention that in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Bucky also fell from a plane without a parachute, having minor leisure in the process.

[@shakiraaliyah1641]

We saw Bucky fall out of a plane and sticking a superhero landing from a high altitude in FATWS, so I’m pretty sure he survived that. Though whether or not he turned into a zombie is a different question.

[@dolphinsfan3245]

ABOUT TIME, I've been waiting for this since yesterday ! Ty Erik Voss

[@albertattack4112]

Same

[@sergeantsainsburys9181]

Ditto

[@DriftCOS-w5n]

at 12:36 ITS A NOD TO STAN LEE SAYING YOULL GROW INTO IT IN SPIDERMAN INTO THE SPIDER VERSE

[@StylnFly]

@17:30 if you listen closely, it sounds as if hope threw a zombie stan lee at the quadjet.

[@Dustman1028]

I’d love to see this fully fleshed out in an animated movie showing how cap and tony first tried to handle it then what happened when the others arrived at Wakanda. I need more!!

[@konstantinstepanov5461]

yes and if it wasnt aimed at kids with its corny jokes just after we witnessed one of our beloved heroes sacrifice themselves.

[@tunzlunz]

Honestly this is the first episode that’s left me feeling wait, you need to elaborate here.

[@davidm4566]

That may be coming if this episode becomes popular. They could do a movie like how DC makes animated movie versions of its stories. It probably won't have the MCU actors, but may still be good.

[@Dustman1028]

@@davidm4566 what I like about the multi-verse and variant thing is we can get different stuff but not necessarily need the OG cast. I’d LOVE to see the Zombie-verse get its own movie or animated series on Disney +.

[@kosmic_overlord]

"fleshed"

[@devsashankmugundhan9093]

Honestly, Kurt's Death was really like disturbing, like seeing the thing you fear the most and it pulling you to your death, just like ugg

[@mikethewordsmith4263]

I'm glad we got what we did in this episode. I've heard they wanted this series to go much, much darker.

[@sinteleon]

They're easing us into it, with Pym killing avengers, Dr Strange dooming the universe, and Zombies showing ANYONE could die.

[@jadenbryant9283]

@@sinteleon heck there were plans for them to have what if Peter turned into a literal Spider but they couldn't

[@pyrokatarina]

and Im here for it

[@michaelscuderi2119]

15:07 The Mind Stone was in Wakanda. They literally took it there at the end of the episode to amplify its signal across the world since Wakanda was the only place that had the technology

[@gavrilaize]

I like how Disney is implementing darker Marvel universe. Slowly using us with bloody and scary scenes

[@pikaverse2497]

Ultron: Ha! Your greatest threat is h… “Zombies Outbreak in the MCU” Ultron: Welp…Back to the internet I go!

[@ProbablyNL]

B-but he’s metal

[@captain_blueyt6113]

@@ProbablyNL You missed the joke.

[@sinteleon]

@@ProbablyNL He also has no one worth the effort to rule over.

[@cristobalquiroz9731]

14:08 yeah no, what about scott in casey school, he took his helmet off then turned both bigger and smaller

[@edgardovasquez5178]

Was just about to comment that

[@cristobalquiroz9731]

@@edgardovasquez5178 it stills bothers me tho, i thought that was the reason Hank couldn't keep using pym particles in himself, bc he used them without a proper suit for many years

[@Cyclone9227]

The one similarity of Marvel Zombies and this What If Episode with Zombies is that once the Zombie Avengers turned another Avenger into a Zombie they will know where to look for the remaining Avengers at.

[@RemLasher77]

8:22 end of sponsored segment

[@Spyalwayswins]

Thank you