MARVEL WHAT IF Episode 4 BREAKDOWN! Easter Eggs & Details You Missed!

[@SadBlueGirl]

Strange’s “I’m so so sorry” really got me,mans really need a hug like damn

[@personalinfo2987]

Did anyone else draw the parallels between strange and the phantom of the opera, with his desperate callings of "christine" towards the end?

[@jj_the_antisocial5863]

@@personalinfo2987 aodjqnciamxn, thats such a good example too! They both don’t end up with the one they want and their attachment to a singular person became warped and more obsessive over time. 💀💀I never read the book so I’m basing this off what i saw in the movie but its amazing how you were able to point that out😩

[@UnModern]

Anyone notice strange said im so so sorry on what if and the movie as well?

[@KittyKow]

Ok.

[@StupidWeb]

Honestly what really got me was at the end of the episode when he was crying "no no no no no no nooo"

[@ComicalRealm]

This episode is the living personification of the line Mordo left with Strange: “The bill comes due, always.”

[@DB-si8st]

ikr, i agree

[@realbotboy]

I wonder if we’ll see more bills come due in Far from Home and Doctor Strange 2.

[@Earth-uu3nf]

Ikr

[@tomlawal7991]

Ikr

[@himum3429]

I feel like Mordo is a much more important part of stranges and his development then we realised, he wasn't here to warn him. As the ancient one said they balance each other out.

[@dipshikhaindrani7437]

We can now say that Christine Palmer defeated Vision and Loki by dying the most number of times

[@cyber_gypsygaming7452]

Lol 😂

[@LeviHix]

Same deal as strange vs dormamu but yea

[@dolphinsfan3245]

Christine Palmer is # 1 ! 😂

[@rohandholakia3970]

🤣

[@harisanthosh0026]

But not "The Doctor Strange"

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjkl9280]

Honestly this episode’s plot rivals even Doctor Strange’s primary origin story, it’s so good.

[@willhemlourage]

I love this version better

[@claythegolem1183]

Go watch multiverse of madness

[@ryangiesbers]

This episode was an absolute masterpiece. It really was masterfully written.

[@francoisedutombois2888]

absolument vrai! problème il aurais du le faire en deux épisodes problèmes de timing en en revient au temp ..

[@thepingking2234]

I agree

[@wmbtech]

When he says "I could warn him, but his reality is not worth risking all the others." I think the Watcher was saying "This will be tragic to watch, but it must happen" because he plans to enlist Supreme Strange for his own multiverse saving cause later on. The Watcher knows something is coming and he needs somebody as strong as Supreme Strange to fight it, so his universe is just collateral damage for the greater good.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

I took it more as he risks himself and stability every time he interferes. It's less about strange and more about his place as a watcher and how his actions affect numerous timelines.

[@matthewwilliams8267]

@@Dakarai_Knight I mean, his name is "The Watcher" That's what they do. They Watch. They are not to interfere or even interact. They are to only Watch, no matter how bad or tragic it becomes.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

@@matthewwilliams8267 indeed

[@fenkelljay7]

@@matthewwilliams8267 But what if?

[@wmbtech]

@@Dakarai_Knight I think you've got his motives for being apprehensive spot on, but that's the writers playing with the reader. The Watcher is always saying he can't intervene so it makes it that much more exciting when he finds a reason to do it.

[@KartoonManagement]

BEST episode by far. I felt really bad for him but the ending was just amazing but also terrifying.

[@internetduck1520]

my favourite was the one with loki

[@hardik875]

Watching a loved one die would hurt so much. But imagine watching a loved one die over and over and over again and you can't do anything about it. It would drive anyone crazy

[@irishbob26]

This is some of marvels finest work.

[@Thatscrazybro1l]

Imagine you're the only living being that exists in an universe lmao

[@Nemisis007]

@@Thatscrazybro1l | sounds peaceful.

[@vishalthefirst4140]

The coolest part of this episode is how Dr Strange starts to sense the Watcher's presence as he gains more power

[@molldoll97]

After seeing Shang-Chi, this episode reminds me so much of how Shang-Chi's dad was trying to do everything in his power to bring his mother back, much like strange is trying to do for Christine

[@oddfreaks6452]

Love can be one of the deadliest forces in the multiverse

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

"How long have you been in Kamar-Taj, mister..." "Doctor" "Mister Doctor?" "It's Strange" "Maybe, but who am I to judge" I swear, that has to be the best first villain encounter scenes that I have ever watched, wish they bring it back when Doctor Strange Supreme (might) meet with any of the Multiverse Avengers

[@sergeantsainsburys9181]

Hopefully hell be meroable now beyond that line and his funky glass shard

[@HendriS_1707]

wish Mads Mikkelsen would get another role in the MCU, he's just so good as any edgy type villains.

[@mandelorean6243]

Yup, I have to recite it almost every time I hear it, so clever, funny and unassuming

[@lavasqrl702]

"Doctor" "Mister Doctor?" "It's Strange" "Or is it WHO?" (Doctor Who joke, I'm adding these parenthesis so people aren't confused.)

[@brueski2249]

I also enjoy "Oh we're using our made up names"

[@doctorbolsen]

I got chills when The Watcher talked to Strange Supreme

[@orangeheartguy]

Like for reallllll! 😭😭

[@39Bosski]

I know, I freaked because that showed just how powerful Strange had become where he was able to sense him. It was such a powerful episode. Devastating. Sat in silence for several minutes afterwards.

[@Nematoda4ever]

@@39Bosski and also showing how fuvked up the situation for the Watcher to come out and talk to him, since that basically against his oath, to not interfere no matter what happen

[@droprelease4820]

Do you reckon he could “interfere” here because it was a “chaos” timeline like from Loki? No matter if he interfered or not, it would not technically change the outcome

[@nicklewis876]

Episode theme: - Hero replaces hero - Hero replaces hero - Hero becomes a villain - Hero becomes a villain And in my opinion these last two have almost caught me off guard from the tone of the starting two; in a great way! Never thought “beautifully sad” and “lovecraftian” would be descriptions I’d use for a what if episode.

[@davidjr16]

Its something that we needed, but didnt know we needed it.

[@willywonka4690]

I couldn't help myself

[@nicovulkis1827]

And since we know one episode has Killmonger being a hero, there might also be two of the "Villain becomes Hero" theme.

[@sinteleon]

Really questionable whether Hank Pym can even be considered a Hero to begin with, but yes.

[@atharvsharma2539]

so next is villian replaces villian or villian replaces hero

[@EverythingAlways]

RIP to the 9 Lamborghini Huracans crashed during live filming on Doctor Strange 1.

[@brickedupinnawheelchair]

Love your vids 🤌🏽

[@josephbrandon276]

Dope that you guess watch their vids and imma assume @newrockstars watches you guys too

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

kit cars, theyre a thing

[@ChaosqueenMaddy]

Pretty sure the crash was CG. Idk. Still, i doubt them crashing possibly multiple $200,000 Huracans

[@natalietaylor7328]

@@ChaosqueenMaddy nope, they really did crash 9 Lamborghinis

[@will3pr]

Dark Strange: “Watcher, help me!” Watcher: “No, I don’t think I will.”

[@MrTraxSta]

shades of Yagami Light asking Ryuk for help if you ever read Death Note.

[@aviawan]

@@MrTraxSta W H A T ?

[@will3pr]

@@aviawan It’s a Manga/Anime series you should check it out. Top 10 actually, it’s really good stuff.

[@aviawan]

@@will3pr Oh ok, Thanks

[@rosalyndt85]

Tbh like what the Watcher said even if he could do something he couldn't he's not even able to punish strange for what he did or fix the world because he can't intervene.

[@ronburgundy9771]

Another small thing you missed is how Strange changed his mind on demonic insects. When he sees the first bug, he declines to absorb it, saying that he “draws the line at bugs” (or something like that.) Later, during the montage, Strange has some distinctly insect like appendages. Meaning that he’s definitely changed the lines that he’s willing to cross on his mad quest. Obviously that’s not the worst line to cross, but it’s a very clear example of his changed opinions.

[@damunaik4]

right I was gonna say! he even slowed down the montage of his looks after absorbing all these beings but completely missed it.

[@brucelau2023]

“The Bill comes due. ALWAYS.” It all comes back to what Mordo said in the Doctor Strange movie

[@oho41]

Great point!!!

[@bosnjakovicdanilo]

Episode was A M A Z I N G. It really tells a lot about Strange’s arc.

[@DB-si8st]

the saddest episode yet the most hyped which is great

[@bosnjakovicdanilo]

@@DB-si8st How exactly is it overhyped?

[@Earth-uu3nf]

Truly inevitable

[@DB-si8st]

@@bosnjakovicdanilo hyped in a good way

[@mmachampion89]

Not the arc but his darker self

[@jairmorales2017]

This Strange is too damn powerful. It seems he let off a lot of power trying to hold the universe together but it’ll be fun to see him potentially in the finale

[@HendriS_1707]

iirc, in the comic book, Strange literally create a loop in the timeline just to seal off Shumagorath.

[@nohnohbody]

I would like to bring you back to this comment and applaud your foresight.

[@stefanosabido]

The “insect” with the cape is supposed to be a Kafka, “Metamorphosis” reference. Benedict Cumberbatch voiced the an audiobook version.

[@rafaelgonzaga9166]

The broken glass in the car almost looks like a heart but broken into pieces.

[@ratstanduser]

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

[@londonjohn5074]

I thought the same thing

[@eddiegarcia835]

Thought the same thing

[@yt-sh]

Thought the same thing

[@crassons]

Thought the same thing

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

Surprised Cumberbatch didn’t pull a Paul Bettany on this: “There’s a secret villain in this-someone I’ve always wanted to work with. Our chemistry is amazing!”

[@shairaivy2507]

what do u mean?

[@swissgoat4981]

@@shairaivy2507 In interviews he had made mention of a cameo appearance of an actor being in Wandavision that he has never done a scene with before which ended up being himself.

[@Shishir4u]

@@swissgoat4981 Ikr 🤣

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

@@swissgoat4981 My favorite part: He was actually remorseful about that line!! Basically saying “I just wanted to play a joke, but people took me seriously, and I’m so sorry!!”

[@AdiNatu96]

He's done it in the original Doctor Strange as Dormammu, so maybe Strange v Strange felt tamer in comparison.

[@hwithoutaname3629]

The way he’s left in the glass bubble makes me think they’ll bring him back at some point. If they were done with they character, they probably would have just have had the screen go black.

[@orrthehunter]

He will as the trailer shows he will meet Captain Carter later in the moment when all What If Characters join forces to save the multiverse.

[@דניאלאשכנזי-ז8י]

@@orrthehunter they do WHAT?!

[@rafinha7081]

Also I think it is a mirror dimension.

[@leenolan1469]

Maybe he is the one in the No Way Home trailer 0.o

[@bestinthewest4697]

@@orrthehunter I saw Strange Supreme also fighting against an army of what I presume are more powerful versions of Ultron alongside the other heroes, perhaps Ultron will be the villain that wants to conquer the Multiverse or something? Or maybe, in order to prevent a total collapse of the sacred timeline, Kang creates this army of Ultrons in order to eliminate all variants?

[@kevinnguzman7099]

My guess is “absolute points” are the Nexus Events that caused these universes to be made. Without these absolute points the universe would be exactly the same as our main MCU and therefore it sorta prunes itself

[@Fitzgeralduh]

Well said

[@ahmaddaniel6500]

Didnt the ancient one said something about a loop. Where if christines death didnt happen, strange wouldnt be sorcerer supreme therefore couldnt turn back time creating a loop. This is similar to stranges hand being messed up in mcu. If he turned back time to make it never happen. That cant happen since thats also an asbolute point. From what i saw i think absolute points are just things that causes paradox and that cant happen

[@greenbean325]

@@ahmaddaniel6500 and we can't prevent the death of optimus in transformers the movie that's an absolute point in the g1 universe of transformers

[@josemanuelrojas214]

The death of Harambe was an absolute point in our timeline

[@Silverhead]

Reaaon why this universe is different is not because christine dead its becaise they are in relationship

[@proflowery30]

It’s not that Strange’s magic couldn’t create branches, it’s that the point of this episode he was trying the change an absolute point in time. If however, he were to change a non-absolute point then a branch would occur. This is likely an absolute point in this timeline because Strange is likely the nexus being of this timeline.

[@kinjalbhattacharyya8219]

I think the most important aspect of this episode is how powerful a misguided Dr. Strange can be. He becomes so powerful that he destroys an universe. Your move, Wanda.

[@jrsbetatests3033]

I was skeptical that Disney could pull off genuine horror, but this episode gave me hope for that in the next live action Doctor Strange movie.

[@KevinBording]

Remember, its not disney makinh the horrer in the film. Its the producer 😏 disney is just funding it

[@unisect9106]

@@KevinBording Disney is the one that hites the producer, in the end, they still know whonto hire for what they intend.

[@jjonahjameson8934]

They’re not making it but they can easily stop production on an episode or scene

[@eden20111]

Well after seeing doctor strange 2 trailer we can confirm evil strange there is the same strange from this episode.. 😬

[@alsorensen2484]

I'm guessing in this universe, Mordo isn't there because handless Strange was more pitiful and in need of personal attention, i.e. Mordo taking a personal interest in Stranges training, resulting in him being one of the individuals that comes face to face with Kysillius and is killed in the struggle, leaving Strange without that foil in his life

[@knifelady8732]

This was by far my favourite episode. The animation, the story, the horror - all of it was just incredible. I'm even more excited for the Multiverse of Madness now!!

[@chaihill1837]

This episode’s ending was like the ending of Infinity War but bite-sized.

[@MrTraxSta]

Got that same hollow feeling like someone just punched me in the stomach really hard............Awesome.

[@bryan.d0616]

Bite-sized? Half the universe versus everyone except for one person?

[@bluebruce3292]

@@bryan.d0616 more like half the population of mortals in the universe to the universe itself except one person

[@MajinBewbs]

Is it just me, or does Strange Supreme’s Christine illusion looks like Deadpool’s depiction of the afterlife?

[@Retro_Red]

I thought so too

[@davechan8613]

Not enough WHAM

[@rizqifebri3205]

But there is no elvis in there. Or take on me song

[@Zenitsu385]

Yes I thought that too

[@sathishheartly]

No it's not. Deadpool 2 different from this

[@jackbrassil5318]

LOVE that they ended it on a bad note, exactly what this series is meant for

[@deannahenry8925]

Yesss

[@nahidshuvro9575]

What an irony that how Strange mocked peter about living two different lives but he himself was living separate lives without even knowing.

[@fahriandikadir5799]

That's different lol

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@fahriandikadir5799 I mean he did the same thing

[@nahidshuvro9575]

Thats y i said irony not coincidence or karma or something. Its like kind a close thing also happening with him

[@randyschwaggins]

Dont think its irony...I think its evil Strange giving Peter some advice based on experience!

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

This is a separate and different universe so it doesn't really count as irony as far as the Strange in Now way home is concerned

[@armaanharoon8458]

I looked up The Watcher’s powers and it says he can make forcefields. Maybe The Watcher made a force field around Dark Strange and saved him. If that’s true that could be Uatu’s first interference in this series

[@zanealexander33]

hes so strong he had to save him. i think he’ll come into play against stronger enemies because he learned his lesson.

[@jaceonirizarry3810]

The barrier was there the entire time he shot the beams

[@spectrem]

I think Strange created that barrier for himself (and Christine)

[@cosmicman6201]

@@spectrem I agree if you watch in what if episode 9 at the end it explains everything

[@eden20111]

Well after seeing doctor strange trailer 2 we can confirm that evil strange there is the same strange from this episode..

[@corbz273]

I thought that the dragon looked a bit like Smaug, and it was almost like a little nod to Cumberbatch playing him and Strange

[@WaqasAhmed-ue1ic]

When strange said PAIN IS AN OLD FRIEND...this episode proved it!

[@aneeshm1201]

You are a genius

[@WaqasAhmed-ue1ic]

@@aneeshm1201 really? 😔

[@aneeshm1201]

@@WaqasAhmed-ue1ic but in the movie Christine is alive right?

[@WaqasAhmed-ue1ic]

@@aneeshm1201 yes

[@Fitzgeralduh]

Naruto x MCU confirmed

[@aidennnr]

Strange got so powerful in this episode he could literally sense the power of the watcher and prevented a whole universe from collapsing on himself.

[@aidennnr]

Honestly he could probably rival the infinity gauntlet in this episode knowing how weak it was in the Mcu compared to the comics

[@eden20111]

But it did destroy him in the end…

[@sleazy_v]

@@eden20111 no

[@NY_Nerd]

This episode was so touching. Many people can relate and will do anything to bring their past love one back especially if they past tragically before old age.

[@kits8276]

I just love the hand-drawn animation on the different beings Strange summons and absorbs. I hope they'll continue mixing hand-drawn animation alongside the 3D characters themselves.

[@litaviee]

Ahh so thats why the animation looks different and fluid!

[@hemutitu1870]

Much like spider-verse , an absolute masterpiece of a movie with Stellar animation

[@xuanvutran3114]

Anakin Skywalker watching this episode:" YES!!! THAT HOW IT FEELS!!!"

[@Zeek369]

it's cool how it literally shows strange going beyond the limits he has placed for himself, by saying he draws the line at insects but later being shown insect-like on those quick flashes

[@luckymark571]

Everyone: Doctor strange needs to fix reality Strange Supreme: We don't do that around here

[@candyeeznuts27]

I uNdErStoOd ThAt ReFeReNcE.

[@candyeeznuts27]

@Zelda fan for lifeNope, I was referring to Lucky Mark, lol.

[@dr.arthurgreen7198]

The saddest part was the last line "I am so sorry, I am sorry..so sorry" 😭😭😭😭😭

[@McHaro0079]

🎼I'm sorry... 🎵 so sorry... 🎶...

[@qingakabenji9876]

One life. One choice. One moment.. Could destroy the entire universe

[@ArkaSaurusRex218]

@@qingakabenji9876 I could have warned him. Could have stopped this madness. But one universe is not enough to risk the entire multiverse for...

[@qingakabenji9876]

@@ArkaSaurusRex218 and besides, I'd doubt he'd listen

[@HendriS_1707]

so... when there's a danger that threaten the multiverse, that is when the Watcher will take action.

[@luisinfant6025]

No one is talking about when Christine said “This is a nightmare!” NIGHTMARE CONFIRMED!!!!

[@blowc1612]

I really hope you’re being sarcastic

[@TheWarlockGamma]

You're joking right?

[@Noblevon]

Stop please just stop.

[@loljay3281]

Jesus Christ people in this reply section are dumb af. Like, the value of the temperature of North Pole has much more value than their brain cells

[@gianttacogod]

*creates 5 13 minute episodes compiling evidence*

[@iceworld3337]

The universe is so powerful that it autocorrects itself whenever Strange is trying to change the absolute point of Christine. He couldn't force it through into a nexus event and he only ended up destroying that universe.

[@CyberDalek17]

I do like how the cape Strange steals looks like his Comicbook version, not color wise but more specifically the extensions around the neck part of the cloak (I don't know the technical term) as well as the gold trim

[@CA8IN8MU8IC]

“the hands shaking isn’t present in no way home” he says while the hands shaking in no way home are shown behind him

[@yukiamano2078]

Was just about to comment this🤣

[@brettdiving2744]

Glad someone else saw the irony of that lol. Not the best scene to accompany trying to prove that point.

[@fkr9032]

Was looking for this 😂

[@zimsum2159]

By the end of the episode, Strange becomes a “tiny speck in this vast and indifferent universe”.

[@uncleowen8011]

Actually the opposite. The episode ends with the universe being as big as the sphere he casted to protect himself. So in a way he became the biggest thing in the universe. This is pretty poetic because the universe that allowed his arrogance to win is the same one that makes him the loneliest, guiltiest, etc.

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

Awful.

[@paoloangelino24]

One of the most surreal Disney What If? Episodes! I liked how they didn't force a good ending on this one and showed the consequences of messing with timelines.

[@broomhilder]

Personally I just thought the shattered glass surrounding Strange and Palmer was heart-shaped, symbolizing Strange’s broken heart. But I like your take on it too

[@kinkykitty77]

That's what I was thinking too.

[@marcofioretti6908]

It’s not interesting how the limbs of that thing still move, it’s simply how squids works. They have parts of their brain inside their tentacles making it so they move a lot even after getting cut

[@sinteleon]

Which still proves the point that the tentacles could still pose a threat regardless. :P

[@AM-jx3zf]

Shuma gorath maybe

[@Ratpick79]

I think this make believe.

[@krishangshah7384]

Not shuma gorath it's the much weaker many angled ones

[@conorboddy2043]

What If initially seemed like just, a bunch of stories from the Marvel Multiverse... ...they're not just random stories, though. They all connect through the bigger plot picture. This episode excited me to no end.

[@Webber-sr3xk]

I actually believe that each reality has It’s owns absolute points, not the entire MCU multiverse itself

[@WonkelDee]

I wonder if iron mans death was such a point

[@PrinxeGaming_]

@@WonkelDee it was, it was the only way they could win. Think about it Thanos was gonna snap and win REGARDLESS, Tony absolutely had to die.

[@alexheilbrun2332]

@@PrinxeGaming_just because it was the only way they could win, doesnt mean that was the only outcome. That actually means that it wasnt a fixed point in time. The other possibilities were realities where he doesnt die and thanos wins. It isnt a fixed point if there are a billion different outcomes

[@PrinxeGaming_]

@@alexheilbrun2332 aaaah ok I see wym. Tbh idk what’s fixed really in the MCU. I guess origin stories maybe

[@alexheilbrun2332]

@@PrinxeGaming_ yeah true. I like thinking about this stuff, it's fun to ponder

[@yazmarliii7992]

Uncle Ben is an absolute point… no way home is gonna be nuts

[@imanishraf6215]

18:08 Dormamu been summon by Dr Strange. Dormamu: Oh no, not you again, what now? Dr strange: Nothing just give me your power or we going to have a little talk about barganing. Dormamu: Nope, here take it. No more barganing.

[@huntingcarbon]

I really love how Strange actually felt the presence of the watcher and even talks with him

[@sinteleon]

Especially since he actually does that in the comics.

[@jonnyjoker1802]

Fr

[@evanlambert9103]

Also when O’Bengh tells strange that he is half of himself, his face marking, which covers half of his face, is faded, showing how strange has lost himself in trying to become more powerful

[@OhNoBohNo]

“Absolute Points” And we cross the tracks from Dr. Strange straight into Dr. Who ‘Waters of Mars’

[@jadenyuki3138]

This story is good for anyone who's going through a lost of a love one

[@Koitto1]

Yew of course My girlfriend died and i decided to go eat some dragons and kill the world

[@DB-si8st]

Nobody talks about the cloak of levitation sacrificing itself for Strange.

[@uscman]

Moment of silence for the blanket of death…

[@DB-si8st]

@Steelix Sax nah you dropped this👑

[@cayden.m3720]

@@DB-si8st nah none of yous dropped anything cuz it’s KZbin

[@brambleheart]

Poor Cloakie

[@phoenixfire1074]

NOT THE CLOAK

[@_Tree]

Theres nothing you can do to change an "Absolute Point In Time". Strange went mad and destroyed his own reality in order to bring Christine back........and you couldn't help but feel bad for him

[@abominatus6742]

Well, to be fair he did change it. Reality just collapsed soon after.

[@seancochran6108]

The Ancient One told Strange, that he needed Mordos immovable strength ,as much as, Mordo needed Stranges flexibility. Without that immovable strength Strange tumbled down the rabbit hole.

[@n3u3rotica]

The "absolute point" is a recurring theme in time-travel fiction. Though it's usually called something else, the concept is the same: a point in time that cannot be altered.

[@tgifriday3563]

Love the story of this episode. The story concept is worthy of a movie

[@MickNix]

This was probably my favorite episode so far. I started off not really liking this series very much but each episode it just keeps getting better and better.

[@theghostofuchiha1496]

The death montage gave me Stein's Gate feels. The same paradox happening to Mayushi no matter how many times Okabe tries to reset the timeline.

[@deku_the_super_saiyan5255]

I was wondering if anyone else thought that and I guess I got my answer lol.

[@angshumant.borgogoi499]

Thank you

[@Brickzie]

Erik makes Everything sounds just like poetry, it rhymes.

[@loading4354]

_"This is nightmare."_ Probably Armani is the Nightmare in DS:MOM. After knowing that there's a universe out there that Christine doesn't need to die, he's gonna a find a way to travel that universe, and the first to notice him is Christine having a Nightmare.

[@athythsuthakaran8477]

DS MOM sounds like the gamer tag of a twitch streamer mom

[@kagephenex]

The deathloop reminds me of Mayuri's deathloop from Steins;Gate and Strange's suffering to try and bring Christine back is just like Okabe.

[@lazyybunnyy]

yes i was thinking this too. i enjoyed both!

[@swipey915]

Notice how in this episode the watcher didn’t say “I cannot will not interfere” like he usually does because I’m this video he did actually interfere

[@AnthonyDDavisJr]

I think he knew like Loki that he could only interfere if it didn't have major ramifications on the timeline.

[@diegoesguerra2922]

When did he interfere? He talked to strange but that wasn’t rlly interfering

[@michaelthatoker7125]

It’s all a build up to his interference in the zombies episode hopefully lol

[@benjinaj7430]

Some ppl are saying he interfered by saving strange, keeping him in that bubble instead of disappearing with the rest of the universe

[@swipey915]

@@diegoesguerra2922 i mean thechnically it is interfering but the only reason he did it was because he knew that strange's universe was doomed either way

[@games_for_serenity2482]

Incredible episode that doesn't shy away from the ending. Love it.

[@classifiesconfidential4330]

Doctor strange officially has the highest kill count.

[@TheFranciscoFm]

Impressive indeed. It was literally everybodyx2 because reality was split. But no, it is still too low compared to all the realities that He Who Remains pruned.

[@adityabhalekar3506]

thanos has a higher one

[@mandolorian162]

@@adityabhalekar3506 nah half of a universe is definitely not the entire one (strange) or multiple timelines for who knows how long? (Kang)

[@JRHainsworth]

@@adityabhalekar3506 I'm no professor but I think half is less than everything

[@adityabhalekar3506]

@@JRHainsworth to me strange's actions indirectly caused the end of the universe so I'm not sure if those count as his kills.Why would the kill count not be split with the watcher then, who could've done something about it but chose not to?

[@WaterMeLoan64]

Dr. Strange tried to save Christine’s life several times but never once did he try to save the Ancient One’s life.

[@buffalooftheuniverse4279]

17:51 Strange be like “THIS IS MY KINGDOM COME”

[@andrewshandle]

I liked the Raven/Trigon homage in the big multi-eyed Raven that he absorbed.

[@jeremykifer]

This episode definitely connected to Wandavision like no other one...What is grief, if not love persevering?

[@AnsweringLDS]

What’s interesting about the absolute points logic is that there was a similar explanation like this in X-men days of future past when they talked briefly about time correcting itself

[@loopynpc1074]

This episode was honestly INSANE! I got chills at the end

[@cozyvrc]

“You’ll notice his hands aren’t shaking in the trailer for no way home” 3:57 his hand is literally shaking what are you talking about?

[@jjonahjameson8934]

Also they don’t shake in every scene just in critical moments like when he informs tony of what he has to do in endgame

[@aliabutalebi4325]

Those statues outside of the Cagliostro Library were actually Persian statues from the Achaemenid Empire.

[@ROUGHSEES]

wow someone knows there shit. your absolutely right. it’s achaemenid.

[@hammerofluke2013]

No they were Assyrian bulls. look it up

[@paulcourtemanche3549]

I love the mr doctor back and forth between Strange and Kaecilius.

[@MaxAndCheese0917]

This episode was heartbreaking, intense, and the ending was really sad. And I loved it!

[@justadude274]

24:00 He should've absorbed the watcher to gain his powers

[@Tevin-MK]

not powerful enough

[@tuxedotservo]

Marvel really digging into the impact of grief in these last two episodes. How grief can become a world/universe altering emotion if it spirals out of control with someone with the powerful tech/abilities. LAdd in WandaVision, and it becomes clear that Marvel really wants to hammer that point home.

[@dervishhh4475]

Hey all, my husband, who is not nearly as nerdy as I am on the MCU, immediately asked at the end of the episode when we saw Strange stuck in his prison: "Hey, where have we seen a purple gem that contains a bunch of power before?" Hmmmmm....

[@jesorinsekwa4054]

Thought the same

[@candyeeznuts27]

HE BECAME THE POWER INFINITY STONE MAYBE? IDK ANDHNSHBJSZHJSB :') help

[@Superb23]

This episode left me in shock and a bit of tears. This has to be my favorite episode of all What If.

[@cyber_gypsygaming7452]

This episode was Dark , Fascinating , Mindblowing , Confusing , Mysterious , and last but not least Beautifully Crafted 😍😍

[@pietrovergobbi3424]

To me is crazy the power Strange showed in this episode, it’s now canon he can gain enough power to destroy an entire universe with the right push.. Reeeally excited for Mutliverse of Madness now!

[@drizzy4523]

What most ppl wouldn’t realize is that the Huracán doesn’t have butterfly doors like the Aventador. “Thought we wouldn’t notice, but we did.” -Tony Stark

[@ValueNetwork]

I don’t think absolute points apply to Kang and quantum MCU timelines and all that. Instead it’s a purely time stone based rule. You can’t use the time stone to go back in time if you never get the stone in the first place. Christine has to die for the timestone to be in stranges possession. If this was Quantum time travel it wouldn’t matter, the timeline would branch and you could do whatever in that timeline

[@funkydovahkiincat8176]

Yes! Why would Kang make Christine die knowing that this would lead to the end of the universe before he even born?

[@sinteleon]

You could think of it as a strictly time travel rule outright, rather than a dimensional travel rule. Otherwise each use of the timestone would've made like a bajillion nexus events.

[@j1ashwin512]

Yeah grandfather paradox

[@pirateghost3834]

This episode felt like marvel said “What if we did “The twilight zone”?”

[@timfenton4943]

Those are definitely not griffins and sphinxes though. Griffins have eagle heads, and the human headed ones are very clearly Assyrian Karibu. I would say the structure is clearly designed to have an Babylonian/Assyrian/Sumerian influence.

[@viniciusdavidosiki4217]

yes! they are lamassu

[@jaetok]

Strange is definitely the strongest Avenger. He’s become one of my favorites aside from Spidey.

[@kluangh1tam]

I'd say Strange HAVE potential to become the strongest Avenger. The problem with Strange was he have to limit himself to achieve desired result when he search of winning probability each and every time so he didn't disturb the balance of cosmos of some sort.

[@jaetok]

@@kluangh1tam now THAT is strong as heck! Balance is still a form of strength.

[@snlbeats]

@@jaetok my fav are :- spiderman, doc strange , thor and wanda/scarlett witch they r pretty strong too

[@MrTiesk]

3:18 Another missable detail: the glass is shaped like a heart, symbolising a broken heart

[@arbaniusfanta921]

This episode left us with a very non-disneylike ending.

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

I hope the next episode doesn’t have a terrible ending.

[@krishangshah7384]

Next episode is party Thor , throwing such a party that earth gets destroyed

[@vinnie8792]

less disney, more the originak fairy tales disney shit was based on :D

[@dbzmasterhughes8446]

Bambi intro:🙄

[@juliaeaves8306]

True but what if comics are not about telling happy ending stories. Just good stories.

[@elmacho2789]

When it zoomed out at the end and you just heard really faintly “I am sorry I am so so sorry” like wow jesus I’m getting chills

[@jaimeramos4411]

Imagine the one who says "be careful what your wish for Parker." Is Strange Supreme instead of Green Goblin.

[@uncleowen8011]

Dr. Strange is the one who said that

[@ConMan271]

"I love you in every universe" gives this episode a whole lot more

[@harleenquinzel2058]

I literally kept screaming MEPHISTOPHELES the entire time he was absorbing energies from the other beings

[@broopdefloop]

And the fact that it ends with him alone in a room sized universe, kind of like the demons personal lodge that he brings everyone to

[@JoeEnglandShow]

Regarding the "fixed point", I think it has to do more with direct cause and effect than with the will of cosmic forces. This version of Strange can't undo Christine's death because that event served as the impetus for his becoming a sorcerer. For him to undo the reason for his own existence creates a fundamental paradox, since without that tragedy he would never have gained the power to keep it from happening. This is why his timeline breaks, and why the Time Stone was uniquely dangerous, since it allowed for alteration of a single timeline rather than the creation of others.

[@kevincmejia]

THIS, this is the best explanation to a fixed point

[@sw874]

Amen

[@EdolasMystogan]

On the other hand, what if he altered the timeline by giving himself a different reason to seek help in the mystic arts? E.g. like how in the main universe it was his hands that needed healing. Here he basically tried to remove the "cause" completely, but what if you trade one cause for another? :D Though that would probably need 2 infinity stones. Time + reality

[@sw874]

@@EdolasMystogan I feel like this could work if someone else did it, because when he rewinds the timeline he is the only common factor. He himself is not rewound, he still has the time stone, he still is a sorcerer. If he saves Christine but breaks his hands now, it won't change anything really. Because his motivation to look for the mystic arts was Christine's death and not broken hands. On the other hand, if it is someone else doing it, saving Christine wouldn't be a paradox at all.

[@sw874]

But then that could reduce the importance of an absolute point... Since absolute points wouldn't be the same to everyone that messed with time. Idk

[@cyber_gypsygaming7452]

These What If...? Episodes keep on getting better and better every episode 😍😍😍