News about NORTON & Pirelli Phantom sportscomp Tyre. Is Royal Enfield tricking you?

[@paulkinsella6172]

Sometimes I despair for the future of the human race. I thought the whole "Sky is falling" fairy tale was, well, just a fairy tale. Sadly it appears to be alive and well, living on the Internet. Your video shows what some research and a little bit of logic can do. Keep it up Sir.

[@squirrelgripgrip]

Try watching Fortnine’s video on a big screen like your telly you can see with your own eyes the tread depth is deeper on the German built tyres.

[@robinputman5619]

Totally agree the misinformation on forums and internet in general is astounding. The motorcycle press are no better!

[@TheAjs71]

When some reviewers are rewarded for their views by manufacturers and only praise the bike, ya gotta do your own research and take their 'reviews' with a grain of salt...

[@dave8204]

I think most Bike manufacturers have withheld test bikes from various magazines over the years for having the audacity to point out flaws. Honda used to have their test fleet by Dixon racing back in the 70's, I'm sure just the standard service.

[@allanh2360]

I got my Street twin a month ago and before I'd even heard anything about the Pirellis I did think a good amount of times how slippy they were, took a ride today between Preston and Harrogate along the A59 and the amount of times the traction control worked especially on roundabouts that took no lean or were particularly wet I'd feel the power cut off or the front slip, iv had Dunlop sportmax and ridden home through storm Jorge earlier this year through snow and really bad rain and never slipped once on my Honda, it could be the torque of the Street twin but doesn't explain the front wheel slipping aswell, I'm still keeping the Pirellis until they need changing but I won't be putting another pair of them on again I'd rather try a set of Avon Spirits or Continental road attack but its all personal opinion but I have found the Pirellis to not be the best

[@MatthewOliphant]

I think we can all agree the level of knowledge, care, and detail that goes into these videos is worth continuing to support this channel. I mean, just look at the quality of that hat!

[@anthonyprice5596]

I remember a time the Pirelli phantom was the tyre to have, I bought a pair for my Gs 750, I'm sure today they are even better. It's bizarre how people can be lead. Your right Stuart its tin hat stuff......Now Aliens, do they exist?

[@stuartfillingham]

Buy one of my hats and your sure to find out!

[@TheAjs71]

bloody oath they do, how else can you explain the current crop of world 'leaders' FFS oh and contenders included too...

[@frankysworld]

@@stuartfillingham I know its a hard ask, but do they come in Pegasus brown? :)

[@TriumphBeezaman]

An old gent once told me when I was a lad "believe nothing you hear & half what you see" those words have been firmly implanted ever since.

[@simonparry5583]

Thank you Stuart. You have replaced the BBC as our go-to for accurate, unbiased and well researched reporting.

[@paulstoker7650]

Well presented video. I'll be honest, I hadn't heard about the tyre conspiracy but it wouldn't have bothered me. From my own experience riding the Interceptor in wet weather, and we get more than our fair share of that in the Uk, the tyres have performed as they should. It might be because I have rider modes for all conditions, they're not included on the bike, they're programmed into me. If it's wet, slow down, that's not rocket science. I've even rode my Interceptor on the beach while at the coast on a day out and the tyres managed no problem. If they'll handle sand they'll handle pretty much anything except oil. Take care Stuart.

[@anthonyhalifax1027]

Non electronic rider modes, I like that, brilliant! 😃

[@MrDGS999]

Excellent work Stu, I also have some experience with Collision Investigation and one of the standard checks that we all should be doing is checking the tyre pressures weekly. Over and under inflation will cause changes to the handling of any tyre. Can I order the hat in a brass finish please.

[@stuartfillingham]

Fully agree re the tyre pressures have spoken about it in the past but people would rather blame the tyre!

[@raycollington4310]

My years working in a commercial fleet operation taught me that the mileage performance of some brand/tyre types varied significantly between OE and aftermarket fitment. Apples were not being compared with apples, even through the make and model of tyre was purported to be one and the same. London Rubber were the ones to avoid!

[@motorcyclementor1785]

Great to have that tire issue cleared up. Interestingly, Fortnine, who produced the contentious video are ostensibly nationwide discount warehouse tire dealers here in Canada. I know my Enfield handles very nicely and I have pushed it pretty hard and so I'll stick with the phantoms. Many thanks.

[@marcjohnson7734]

The interceptor is hardly a tyre shreading machine! peeling off black lines out of corners! So those tyres will be more than adequate

[@omnivore2220]

Racing tires are softer and don't last as long, so what your point?

[@marcjohnson7734]

@@omnivore2220 you best read what I wrote again, read it slowly 👌

[@TheXeroid]

But how do we know we would be getting an authentic Fillingham tin foil hat and not some cheap alternative manufactured in the Far East? Just because it might say Made in Yorkshire, how do we know that to be true? Excellent video Stu; keep trying to educate the hard of thinking.

[@dave8204]

I heard production was shifted to Thailand but their marketing department still alludes to some spurious claims of being British Tin Foil Hats. The model shown is not the original Fillingham, that factory closed in the early 80's, the name being bought by a totally different company years later who cheekily made their hats look quite similar to the original Fillingham and claimed the same heritage.

[@tonychallinor6721]

@@dave8204 how thick is the proper version - measured in coin edges?

[@pauld1966]

Good point sir! Make sure you check on FacePaint, WhatPrat, Twatter or any other reliable sources of information before investing in the Famous Stu Nuclear, bullsh*t, tin foil safety helmet. Oh, and I hear there is Crapometer in development.... I also hear that it's being made in Brazil, apparently...

[@pauld1966]

@@tonychallinor6721 About 13p

[@nathanhenry4214]

Having worked in the automotive industry myself I would say you put it spot on. If there was anything wrong with these tires and they put people in any danger at all RE would not use them on their products.

[@panksham]

We need more people like you on KZbin. Great work👍

[@stuartfillingham]

I appreciate that!

[@themoog3889]

Do you do a tin foil hat that makes you invisible to BBC "detector" vans ??? Very informative Stuart , I rode these tyres in 6° temperatures yesterday a 100 mile round trip on wet and dry roads ....didn't set a foot wrong ! If anyone has taken a pair of new ones off and wants to sell them I'll give you £20 for them and laugh on the way home ! 😀

[@prabhakar2910]

If there's 2 pairs, count me in!! I'll even go up to 30😂

[@andrewlee2484]

TV detector vans are covered in tin foil and therefore, also invisible 😊

[@vkp365]

This is the reason that I haven't subscribed to other (rather misleading) motorcycle channels, but, just yours. Very nice of Pirelli and RE for responding to your questions. Truth must be told! Thank you. Will you ship that hat internationally? 😀

[@humanfirst11]

The Norton bikes launched in India are almost untouchable, even costlier than Triumph! They can't price it higher than Triumph and expect any high sales! Great video.

[@gwynnromano5881]

As has been stated many times over, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. An unfortunate aspect of the internet is that any clown can make a video spinning out a ridiculous theory and there will be those that swallow it whole. I believe it was Mark Twain who stated that it’s easier to fool some people than it is to convince them that they’ve been fooled. Thanks again for another informative video.

[@pmdinaz]

Terms and conditions haha You're great. It never ceases to amaze me that people hear what they want and assume it's factual when presented with partial and biased information.

[@stevenhill6214]

This is the channel i come to when i want the facts. Your integrity is impeccable! No problems with the tyres on my Street twin.

[@stanleyknife1967]

Love the reverse bartering technique - you really showed him who was boss! Phantom's I had were perfectly fit for purpose. Great video again Stuart.

[@pollitt11]

Firstly, great hat! Secondly, how dare you do some research. How on earth are other KZbin channels with no research going to compete with that? Seriously great work. Keep up the excellent content. 👌🏼

[@bodaciousbobby01]

Have had my interceptor with stock tires on gravel at about 40 mph and when it didn't feel out of control, pushed it to 50 before fear slowed me down. With 3,200 on them they don't look very worn. They are actually good and balanced for the size of the bike. Good video I would buy a tin foil flat cap with the antennas.👾

[@bettyswallocks7183]

Can you get Pirelli Sportcomp radials in the UK, except on an Enfield? If not, the stock Brazilian cross plys are entirely different tyres - regardless of tread depth.

[@stuartfillingham]

You can but if the bike is designed for cross ply tyres your taking a huge risk, and would probably notice an adverse affect in handling.

[@bettyswallocks7183]

@@stuartfillingham OK thanks for saying the Intercepters designed for cross ply only. Sounds legit!

[@djc59x]

I seem to remember similar conspiracy theories back in the late 70s with Dunlop tyres. Another “proper” video, cheers!

[@alandavis2380]

My mate had a brand new Suzuki GT380 fitted with Japanese Dunlops in the 1970s. They were lethal, shocking grip in the wet and he swapped them asap after finding out!

[@scottroberts4551]

I replaced my Pirelli's on my 2020 Triumph T120 after 1000 miles with Avon Spirit ST's. I never found anything really wrong with the Pirelli's, I just wanted a better handling tire, one that helped the T120 through the curves. My personal experience has been the Avon's changed the way my Triumph rode - better, more lively handling, safer feeling. The bike now feels lighter and rides even better. I remember with the Pirelli's running out of turning ability on a few curves - not with the Avon's, there's much more turning ability. They also run over grooved pavement without wandering around like the Pirelli's. I remember reading about the T120's handling and people saying it felt heavy and a little sluggish. Triumph would be smart to use the Avon's as their OEM tires to squash that perception.

[@ccooper8785]

Having previously ridden MZ250's over winter on their stock Pneumant tyres with no problems, I just want my tyres to have a decent lifespan. 4500 miles on an NC750X rear is ridiculous. Give the boy racer wannabe's the soft tyres and give the grownups more sensible rubber with a flatter profile for longer life.

[@stephentrudgill8606]

Straight talking, well informed common sense. That's why we all subscribe. Keep it up mate. 👍

[@chakrapanid6089]

Excellent work Uncle Stu..Thanks for taking pains and clearing up the issue. I am sure lots of doubting Thomases like me would thank you for the going the extra mile and doing all the real detective work.

[@chrismayes3588]

Thank you for my Friday morning dose of wry humour and intelligent YouTubing; the perfect antidote to the nonsense I have to deal with in the ‘day job’! It amazes me how some people manage to get out of bed in the morning, because someone on t’internet has probably told them it’s dangerous. On the tyres matter, I think this is symptomatic of the ‘…it must be some else’s fault…’ culture we sadly have to put up with these days. I suspect most of the supposed ‘issues’ with things like tyres are actually down to ‘user error’, but people won’t admit to that; it must be some else’s fault…!

[@ankursharma3748]

As usual awesomely insightful video. Glad I did not see the other video you referred to else I might certainly have been dejected, I have same tyres on my GT Continental 650. Cheers👍

[@jeremystafford8374]

Well you said use your own initiative/ form your own opinions. I've just covered around 600 miles on my brand new interceptor ( Baker Express ), And though no expert on tyres I've had no issues what so ever. I have been aware of a differing opinion, but decided to stick with my own experiences with said tyre, and the information received by the gentleman I've grown to trust through his KZbin channel, a gentleman in which I see fit to Patreon in channel as a thank you for excellent advice on many issues I've struggled with in the past. Thanks for your efforts with the channel.

[@stuartfillingham]

Thank you Jeremy and its my pleasure!

[@davemitchell2401]

Thank you for this video Stuart, I really appreciate your fair minded and honest approach to these sort of issues.

[@karim74]

thank you. for saving me some money. i am a interceptor 650 2020 model owner

[@ronnronn55]

Thanks for the effort you put into your very thorough investigation of the tyre topic. I too saw that presentation and considered that I was living with an inferior tyre on my Interceptor. I didn't make the time to investigate further as I considered that to be a particularly reliable source. Ronn

[@ericgutierrez3975]

Once again, thank you Stuart and Motone. Was still able to use the discount code to buy the el dorado tail tidy that was made available today. Wish your contest was happening in December. Can’t wait to update my bike.

[@brookcampbell2940]

Thank you Stuart for clearing this up. I feel quite embarrassed if I quoted Ryan F-9 as being gospel. They do have good videos and production quality, but I guess I should take them with a grain Of salt. You are the best! I still have the Phantoms from my Conti GT and will hold on to them. I switched to Continental Road Attack 3 so I could get a 150mm on the rear. Keep up the great work.

[@stuartfillingham]

I had quite a few such comments Brook, your not alone.

[@Slb2453]

How do you find the 150 rear?

[@stuartv-e8161]

Well done Stuart. Fantastic quality of video. Giving correct information and keeping us accurately informed. I look forward to your vlogs every week. Keep well and bye for now Stuart 🙂

[@brianperry]

Just come across this video Stuart.. I've seen a few channels advocating changing the standard fitted tyres as soon as possible. Not mentioning the tread depth but the Cross-ply/ Radial argument, even the compound of the rubber that the tyre is made. I haven't made a real in-depth investigation on the subject, I just fit the same make and type of tyres I'm happy with. In my case the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2. on my Street Triple 675. I can remember when Bridgestone tyres were considered made from plastic they were so useless.....

[@pythongrun]

I’ve changed the Phantom’s on my last 2 Triumph’s. Shocking tyres unless it’s warm and dry. Subjective, I know.

[@crimmond06]

I did the same on my last two Triumph's. Worst tyres I have used since I started motorcycling in 1961. Designed and tested in Spain totally useless in a wet and cold Cumbria. Tubed tyres one crossply, one radial you couldn't make it up.They are so good I only managed to sell a new back one for £15 the other three went to the skip after months of advertising. OK for sunny Sunday afternoons nothing else. anyone who rates these tyres has never ridden on Michelin RP 3/4/5s or the like.

[@stuartfillingham]

Never had a single issue with the phantoms on either my T120 or my Interceptor wet or dry or on ice. must be the way I ride eh?

[@Kamarov2090]

wow i actually watched the video and believed the whole tread depth thing although your explanation makes far more sense although i do wish the tyres had better wet weather performance

[@SandeepJha2626605]

which channel is it ?

[@bikerbuddy3166]

Norton are definitely going to be a company to watch so much amazing talent gone from triumph to norton , 😎☝️🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧 another good watch keep up the good work

[@joelbuchholz5468]

I know absolutely the video you are referring to. I'm sure they make mistakes sometimes, as I still trust a lot of what he says. But it's nice to actually see you break it down, and show the measurements during the video!

[@todhale4828]

Terrific video. I just purchased a new Interceptor. Thank you

[@stuartbailey5665]

Brilliant. Thanks for all your efforts. I hadn't noticed the radial rear and cross ply front on the T120. Makes you wonder why they didn't fit radial to the front also. I always thought you shouldn't mix them.

[@stuartfillingham]

should only mix if manufacturer recommends it

[@BillCairns]

Seen the video you where describing and thought...hmmm....that was sneaky, I don’t ride the bikes being discussed so thought no more if it.. Nice to see someone protecting the cash of concerned riders... surprised the tyre manufacturer isn’t taking him to court... Well Done for bringing the Truth out👍

[@stuartfillingham]

Well I don't think they were aware of it until i approached them for information, so who knows what might happen!

[@dougfielding8215]

@@stuartfillingham The reviewer has removed the part of the video in question that has to do with the Interceptor's Pirelli's.

[@xperiakppxperiaphone2807]

Hello Stuart, Another video dealing with a serious subject but done in a humourous manner. Just what the Doctor ordered at this time. So, After over 40years motorcycling, what have I learned? When it rains,,,,,, SLOW DOWN,! This simple skill of 'reading and riding to the road conditions' seems to have been lost over the years. Wet leaves, rain, ice, mud, potholes, diesel spills, etc etc, are all factors effecting tyre grip whatever make of tyre you have. Read the road and ride accordingly. Cheers Keith

[@Rosakru]

Love the hat.. This should be good...

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

It won’t be any good. Aluminium foil hats only work if there’s a dielectric 15 cm span 1.7 x 3.146 (helical twist) forward facing prop. Everyone knows that! It’s bloody obvious!

[@nathanpetrin4756]

Congratulations on the work of seeking information from serious sources, instead of manipulating sensationalism. Videos like this deserve more attention!

[@stuartfillingham]

Much appreciated!

[@Xanavi23]

Another great video Stuart - very informative. In recent years I've used Bridgestone and currently Dunlops on my Honda, and they are very good in all conditions. On another subject, the roads that you film during your rides in your part of the country look like they have some good surfaces, in stark contrast to the roads around North Essex and Suffolk. We have so many potholes that it can make riding less enjoyable and potentially less safe.

[@ericgutierrez3975]

Thank you Stuart and Motone. Just took advantage of the discount.

[@kalex15]

Thanks for clearing up the negativity around these tyres, and a good insight into tyre manufacture, Stuart!

[@n1v2n3]

LMAO! Thanks for updating on the tyre fiasco. Although I never had any doubts on the grips. I am very confidenta that Most folks around the country don't even know that there is type called Crossply and that the tyres RE put in their Interceptors are not Radial. 😂🤣 Appreciate you, taking time, talking to the right people and reps to get this info. Please do continue posting videos in KZbin. Would you mind doing a Giveaway of the Tin Foil hats 😋😛

[@gunnyhartman2]

Good on you Stuart, so much bullsh*t on the internet!

[@chaitanyadubey2914]

I learned a lot in this video not just about bikes but about life!

[@bikerdood1100]

Yes , while I’m sure the bike companies do deals with Pirelli for example, they are bulk building after all , I’m sure that some of the comments are as you say complete nonsense. I myself test rode an interceptor fitted with theses tires last winter in damp conditions and the bike handled very nicely. But I’ve only been riding all year round for 30 odd years so what do I know ?

[@MacnaMack]

Thank you for continuing to remain factual with your content. I hope more vloggers are like you. #QualityVids

[@chrisbryan3624]

Thanks as ever for your well researched and insightful content Stu, as you’ve alluded to there’s so much BS out there. Thankfully, your channel provides us with a balanced, pertinent, truthful and educated perspective on m/c matters. 👍🏼

[@reggoldsmith2232]

Hi Stu, One has to tread carefully when choosing tyres, the main reason for the cost of tyres increasing in price, is simply inflation!

[@Fred-zc8lt]

killing me

[@bpgrmds]

I'm convinced about the tyres, not only due to your video, but also by first hand experience riding on them.

[@SuperMarge123]

Consistently excellent information and entertainment. Thank you so much for securing discounts and promotions plus reliable info in all aspects life and bikes. Regards Gareth Wiltshire UK. Gratitude. Quality. Respect.

[@assessor1276]

Well said Stu - BS thrives on the internet and production values are irrelevant. I follow a lot of moto channels and most of them are mildly entertaining crap while a few (which I no longer follow) are downright nonsense. Great hat by the way - very fetching indeed. I’ll bet that scored points with Mrs. Fillingham-du-jour.

[@robertdodge8587]

You remain a source of a really rare common sense! Thank you.

[@michaeljoesmith3977]

I thought the tires on the RE 650s were radial. Oh well. Thanks for the correct and precise information, Sir.

[@philmorrow2446]

Yep, agree with you mate. Too many gurus talking twaddle. Anything to up the view numbers. Try the tyre, if it don't work, ask is it the tyre or your riding. Thanks for the NFL, and agree with you that your not there to spend all day answering emails. Keep up the great vids.

[@quarkiepo]

Really interesting and love the hat! Made my day!! Thank you! 😇😇

[@allentumminello2343]

Somebody did their homework. Great job

[@brettwicks2615]

Thanks for this video Stuart , if anyone you know is going to ditch a perfect set of these tyres , tell them i will have them . Take care .

[@markfortin8286]

Fantastic work, thank you very much for putting in the time on this! Regarding Norton, I noticed the Commando is no longer featured in their range on the website. I don't recall hearing anything about it being discontinued. Presumably it is due to Garner's sale of the motor to a Chinese firm, but I hope it will be back. I'll have to start saving for the Atlas. Great tinfoil hat, looks like it could be out of the 1930s Flash Gordon serial!

[@squirrelgripgrip]

Watch Fortnine’s video on a big screen you can see the tread depth is noticeably deeper on the German manufactured tyre. He should have contacted Royal Enfield not Pirelli and asked the question.

[@andreVE4BK]

To be fair, the Pirelli Sportcomp in Canada is around $250... ($400+/pair)

[@raydean9330]

Well done Stuart, yet again you explain things AFTER investigation Well done & thank you

[@philiphotham5464]

good for you , Stuart

[@ianw3294]

In 50 years of motorcycling i have found very few tyres that have fitted by manufacturers to be dodgy. Perhaps the early Japanese bikes tyres werent flash in the wet but you should be riding to the conditions anyhow. Stu - social media can stir up all sorts of conspiracies but i agree people have to think for themselves not believe everything you see and read on the net!

[@robertkemp9023]

Well said, and thanks for all the effort in providing the information. I certainly have no complaints with the Pirelli Phantom tyres on my Interceptor, come wet or dry. 👍

[@shashimenon1000]

Thanks for the clarity, as usual. Dont be upset by the duffers, they also exist.

[@MacnaMack]

Btw, i have a GT650 and looking to change tires soon. Looking to go wider. Maybe 110 / 150. Any suggestions mate?

[@pauladams1337]

Good video Stuart. My only question is why cross plies on the interceptor? To be honest I didn’t think cross ply tyres were manufactured for new bikes and cars any more, only used on older pre 1970 classic vehicles in keeping with their heritage, I thought all tyres were now radials. Am happy with the Pirelli’s and would fit again on my Interceptor, but I do remember campaigns in the 70’s by the tyre manufacturers making a big thing of the increased safety of fitting radials over cross plies

[@stuartfillingham]

yeah Cross ply tyres are still very popular choice for reasonably low performance bikes. they are very common. but your right theyve not been used in cars for decades.

[@andrewbull3537]

Absolutely love the solar panel on your head ,how many kilowatts do you get with it ???? What it's just a hat !!!!!! I feel really stoopid now !!!! Thanks for the honest review Stu Take care on the road 👍👍👍😁😁😁

[@sanclewphotographic]

I thought at first glance Stuart you were wearing a new Motone part they were manufacturing, now I understand its your invention, but I noticed you never discussed pricing ? but seriously what a great informed video, you certainly go to great lengths to get the information correct that you give to us for that I am sure that I talk for all subscribers and tell you we are very grateful for all your input and indeed great videos, great music , regards.

[@stuartfillingham]

£622 plus VAT each they would make a great Xmas present for someone!

[@michaeljoesmith3977]

You may have mentioned this in this most excellent video, but I notice that my Continental GT 650 has tubeless tyres and of course spoke wheels. These particular tyres were manufactured in Indonesia.

[@stuartfillingham]

No I didn't mention it as I don't have a continental GT. if made in Indonesia they should definitely be Crossply tyres.

[@rashidpoonawalla1203]

Thank you @stuartfillingham ,a well made video and very aptly said about the gibberish content on social media ,even i had the same incorrect notion about the tyres ,a much appreciated video

[@pikebobstar2033]

Amazes me how in my experience people get so eat up about this. Buddies bikes I service bang on about tyre type, spec ,compound etc, etc but when I carry out their service usually, the tyre pressures are way off. Generally low and they confess they don't generally check them! Tyres are subjective like most consumables we choose for the bikes e.g. brake pads, chains etc. Going to fabricate my tin hat later 👍

[@luhaarunk3085]

I had a lot of respect for 'that' youtuber. His videos & the presentation have improved a lot over the years. But thanks for uploading this video Stuart! This proves, again, that all that glitters is not gold. Like another one of the comments said, 'that' youtuber needs to fortify his information 🙂

[@mick998r]

Way back when I 2000 when I had a Triumph Daytona 955i I wanted to change to Continental Sport, that too got terrible comments regarding grip quality in the man's at the time, I dud two track days with them, giving them some serious grief, many more road miles as well. Not an issue with friends at all even through the winter months! Once again a common sense upload by yourself Stuart. 👌

[@michaelirish4968]

Excellent information once again Stuart. The helmet is a nice touch!

[@bennybenoit754]

Thanks for putting things straight Uncle Stu. I was taken in by the other KZbin’er because, like most other people I was too lazy to fact check it. I will be more careful from now on. To be fair though I didn’t really listen to the half french feller as I was out enjoying my Interceptor on its original tyres. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@vj19xrk9]

Thanks for another informative presentation, Stuart.

[@showbiz3848]

I saw the video in question. So..... My factory set were made in Brazil. After 7000 miles I replaced my rear tire. I still have mileage to go on the front. My replacement off the shelf rear tire was made in Germany. Also and as you said....my new german rear is infact labeled as a Radial tire. The factory original Bazilian source front tire is NOT labeled as a radial but does break down the different piles of construction, which I take to indicate it is not a radical !?!. Now I am confused. Does that mean I can have either a Radial or bias-ply construction tire in the same tire? But that being said... I have had no problems with grip or general performance, and my Conti' GT spends a whole lot of time laid over when ever possible and has done nothing but inspire confidence. It will be interesting to see if this German made set of Phantoms last longer. But over all I am happy with the rubber so far...regardless of factory origin. Enjoyed the detective work and commentary. As for the other show in question and as a fan of that series too...... seems they're in a bit of a sticky wicket, and it's my hope that the apparent misdirection was accidental and that we all learn a little something about validating information before passing it on. Thanks for listening. Ride safe everyone. Peace out! clb

[@stuartfillingham]

You shouldn't normally mix Cross ply and Radials unless its stipulated by the manufacturer. I would check with your dealer on that unless you already have.

[@showbiz3848]

@@stuartfillingham I'm grateful for your input. I could be wrong about the front tire not being a radial. The rear is clearly labeled "radial". Usually it's inspection, tread depth check, tire pressure and then forget about it. I shall take a more thorough look at the sidewalls in the morning. Thanks again Stuart. Carl

[@kenhughes]

I agree with you uncle Stu there's nothing wrong with the tires on the Interceptor.

[@jjnewman65]

“Tyreless work” on this issue Stuart 😛. Well done . Also you’ve got me on another Motone buzz with that discount offer. I’m going in again!

[@ashleyreynolds6604]

I must have missed the duff info video. This has me curious now and I wouldn't mind seeing it. I had also heard that tyre manufacturers in general can sometimes supply OE variations of certain compounds that you wouldn't be able to buy. That's been said by tyre suppliers, fitters and certain bike magazines.

[@stuartfillingham]

yeah well we all know bike magazines are trustworthy!

[@sachan9081]

"Fortnine, 3 ways motorcycle manufacturers mislead you" I was also convinced by that video btw.

[@ashleyreynolds6604]

@@stuartfillingham you'd have hoped so wouldn't you.

[@dougfielding8215]

@@sachan9081 Me also, and I admit with embarassment that I shared this inaccurate info on other forums about the Interceptors, believing it to be true because I trust the source. Not quite so trusting now. If there is no rebuttal by that presenter, my mistrust will be complete.

[@planefixerguy5188]

If you're shocked that your tires come from brazil, india, or thailand, ask yourself when the last time you saw a rubber tree growing wild in the USA or UK. They're going to likely build most tires closest to the source materials. I'm in aviation and Michelin is making most of their aircraft tires it seems these days in thailand. Doesn't make sense to harvest rubber there, bring it to france, only to ship a tire to the USA. Yes there is still USA production of tires but its mostly on the highest end.

[@cmhighway6215]

Great job bikrakie !

[@marcjohnson7734]

You can tell uncle Stu was a policeman excellent detective work

[@johnDukemaster]

Thank you once again mr Fillingham! And if the size of the channel makes it right...what about BBC? They must be enormously right! Stay safe, stay sane.

[@dalewintle9969]

Great video Stuart well-done with the Motone discount 👌 great info on the tyres

[@SausageSide]

Hang on, I know little about tyres beyond what I experience and my research into what's going on my bikes next. You say there are both radial and cross-ply versions of this tyre. Are there differences which arise from the two methods of construction? My (limited) understanding tells me that a radial is superior in many ways to a cross-ply? Can they both be certified under the same safety spec? Why construct the same tyre in two different ways? I know the channel you're referring to and it's good to see some knowledge and research being applied, but for me this video has raised a much bigger question than it has answered

[@stuartfillingham]

Knowing a little bit about tyres can be a dangerous thing. There's nothing unusual about cross ply technology.

[@SausageSide]

That's good to know; but given what you've said about different 'versions' of the same tyre being subject to separate certification processes and therefore being unlikely to exist (in terms of 'cheap' versions of the Phantom for example) would radial and cross-ply versions of the same tyre not be subject to separate and expensive certification processes? I'm not calling into question the quality of one or the other manufacturing technique; I've trusted various models of Pirelli tyres for years and I trust them; but a radial and cross-ply version of the same tyre would have different characteristics surely?

[@cnjawahar2]

Nicely said Stuart 👍