Tensions rise in the courtroom during Arizona rancher murder trial

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@cynthiasnodgrass8071
@cynthiasnodgrass8071 6 ай бұрын
Anyone who is curious about how outlandish this Judge's ruling is should go watch "the lawyer you know" video on this trial.
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
Love Lawyer You know. He's amazing!! He's so unbiased too...
@LynetteA68
@LynetteA68 6 ай бұрын
This judge is unhinged!!! He needs to be removed from the bench!!! This judge is handing him a retrial!!
@wendyc1902
@wendyc1902 6 ай бұрын
Any American SHOULD be able to see for themselves how ludicrous this is WITHOUT an attorney explanation! 🦘⚖️
@paw-prints839
@paw-prints839 6 ай бұрын
​@wendyc1902 she should have someone in her office file an appeal, right that second. But I do love how she gets even.
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 7 ай бұрын
So the state gets 3 weeks to prove their case and the defense only 2-3 days? Something is not fair here.
@deeh6457
@deeh6457 6 ай бұрын
Came here to say this…wtf!
@paw-prints839
@paw-prints839 6 ай бұрын
If anything, I've learned watching multiple trials, justice is not blind. Most of these judges should be removed.
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 6 ай бұрын
@Annie497 Defense could easily have included a motion for the judge to recuse himself from this case in her proffer since he was clearly biased. Prosecution would no doubt have objected to that but there would not have been a judge to sustain that objection since he had walked out of the courtroom. And everything would have been on the record. But maybe that is just me and my revengeful thoughts, at least they now have excellent grounds for appeal if Kelly is found guilty.
@willaknotts1298
@willaknotts1298 6 ай бұрын
The rancher must be a Trumper otherwise this crooked Democrat judge wouldnt be such a dork. The state is crooked for sure! I wonder how many mistrials will be required for this rancher to be free at last?
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 6 ай бұрын
@@willaknotts1298 What does this have to do with politics and why are you reasoning the other way round? The judge was clearly in favor of the prosecuting and he was justly criticized for that. The state made a lot of bold claims in their opening statement but as the trial went on no evidence of that was shown and it seemed nothing more than pure speculation. That also seemed to effect the judge who probably assumed it was an open an shut case but then found out they had no evidence except for an alleged witness who got all the details wrong. Luckily the last week the judge became less biased but how does that make the rancher a Trump voter?
@AMGShivener
@AMGShivener 6 ай бұрын
And, this is how appeals are granted! Check your ego at the door Judge!!!!
@donnaturner8339
@donnaturner8339 7 ай бұрын
He has allowed the state to go over and they still not finished. Now he is going to limit the defense on an important witness. This not fair of the judge to do this. Appeal IMO
@donnaturner8339
@donnaturner8339 7 ай бұрын
How rude of the judge to give defense time to make a point and then walk out the courtroom.
@JenniferCheckedInHere
@JenniferCheckedInHere 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Jidge Fink for handing Mr. Kelly his righteous basis for appeal. 13 days for prosecution and 2 days for defense.
@litrogue6328
@litrogue6328 5 ай бұрын
Why do you support racism?
@bswogger4656
@bswogger4656 7 ай бұрын
Sadly if they rush her it is ground for either mistrial or ground for appeal. Wasting 3 weeks then telling defense hurry up, not justice!
@Annettespetessentials
@Annettespetessentials 6 ай бұрын
This Judge needs to step down - not giving the defense their time is so against the law - shame on the judge
@TheFreenee
@TheFreenee 7 ай бұрын
If he gets convicted, there is no way the verdict won't be overturned on appeal.
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
GUILTY AF
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
Evidently you all havent watched the entire trial! The judge has to be fair to all! He allowed the "masculine" curly hair defense attorney to go on and on and on the previous day asking pointless and disrespectful questions! The S-He defense attorney was being extremely rude to the witnesses! It was time for him to take back his court ,demonstrate fairness to all ,and remind the defense that he is in charge! Notice the Manly defense attorney kept her BIG Mouth closed this time! WE ARE SICK of BOTH defense leads thinking they own the courtroom! THEY ARE SO DISRESPECTFUL and classless!!!text-green-game-over
@Nono38-jj1tk
@Nono38-jj1tk 6 ай бұрын
​@@chunk2596You seem intimidated
@JustRhonda
@JustRhonda 6 ай бұрын
@@chunk2596 🙄🙄🙄from your ignorant copy/paste comment, sounds like this is the first trial you have ever watched an/or you have no idea how the process works. Your words make you seem very uninformed and uneducated. But hey, let your free speech flag wave!
@deeh6457
@deeh6457 6 ай бұрын
I agree. And I am also sick of hearing this response. Bc that’s all good and fine unless you are the one paying for the defense let alone the emotional cost to this man and his wife.
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
Im so sick of Proscuters LYING 🤥 and Detectives... Why are we not protecting our legal citizens & not ones that have no business being here... And now, i see the judge gives state more time... unbelievable. JURY WILL FIND HIM NOT GUILTY.
@litrogue6328
@litrogue6328 5 ай бұрын
Well good that there were no racists on the jury and he was found guilty and thrown in prison.
@LynetteA68
@LynetteA68 6 ай бұрын
This judge is unhinged and biased!! We’re seeing more and more of this lately!!! He needs to RETIRE or be removed from the bench!! Whoever this defendant is this “JUDGE” just handed him a FREE retrial!!
@DirtyLifeLove
@DirtyLifeLove 7 ай бұрын
Did the judge say she has 5 minutes, she tried to plead for more then he says, “you have 4?”
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 7 ай бұрын
She was punished for defending her client.
@perryrush6563
@perryrush6563 6 ай бұрын
Yes. Your heard correctly.
@watcher6068
@watcher6068 6 ай бұрын
The cartel threatened him I heard
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars 6 ай бұрын
Yes. He acted like a petulant elementary school teacher instead of someone who is supposed to be protecting the law.
@robertscutt2904
@robertscutt2904 6 ай бұрын
He's Living Up To His Name, Honorable Thomas Fink, Capeesh. 🤺🤺🤺🤺🇺🇲
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
Unreal... this judge is absolutely Wrong. The defense attorney should call for mistrial or Something. This Judge is wild...
@rainbow_rising
@rainbow_rising 6 ай бұрын
Why didn't the defense attorney put everything in the record after the judge walked away?? She should have said everything that she wanted to ask everything that the judge denied them & she should also put down in the record to recuse this judge, appeal. He is showing bias. Defense was limit to ask questions but not the prosecutors. They need to get down everything in the record of this man who is calling himself a judge - he is anything but that. Worse I've ever seen. Judges like this man are giving justice a bad reputation in this country.!
@a.h.g.9kokushibo
@a.h.g.9kokushibo 6 ай бұрын
That is what she does in the end of the video after the judge walks out. I guess the judge has more important things to do. 🙄
@johnqpublic5350
@johnqpublic5350 7 ай бұрын
Does this latest ruling in time limits impact the defendants right to a vigorous defense?After all the state was allowed 13 days with no limits.
@JustRhonda
@JustRhonda 6 ай бұрын
At the very least it's a violation of due process. In effect, it's a denial of a fair trial. The case should be overturned on appeal.
@barryheffner8904
@barryheffner8904 6 ай бұрын
Why are these cops so fucin biased to the states case?? I mean they went to Mexico to question a witness with the victims family in the room, and didn't record it, thats insane.
@melissapeters9820
@melissapeters9820 6 ай бұрын
It's absolutely asinine and unheard of ... In a murder trial no less... Smh... Definitely gonna be either not guilty or mistrial or overturned on appeal... This is a hot mess it's embarrassing AF
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, they all work for Government. IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!! OUR GOVERNMENT ISNT FOR " WE THE PEOPLE " THIS CASE IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE. FREE MR.KELLY. SO WE ARE TAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS BACK NOW?? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!! THIS DETECTIVE IS FULL OF CRAP. CLOSE OUR BORDERS, IS OUR 1ST PROBLEM.
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
​@@melissapeters9820Couldn't agree more... At this point Mr Kelly should walk free...
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
FOOT PRINT!! JURY IS SMART. NICE JOB JURY MEMBERS!! PUT PRESSURE ON THE STATE...
@mildlyobscure
@mildlyobscure 6 ай бұрын
ya
@idahardy4052
@idahardy4052 7 ай бұрын
Is this judge as biased as the LE so far?
@norearview
@norearview 7 ай бұрын
I have watched every day of the trial, and until today I thought he had been fair. Today changed all that, it seems the cartel paid him a visit last night, or something. This is scary what is happening. The State has been given 12 days and still not finished, and now he will limit the Defense to a couple days if that.
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
@@norearview Love the judge now! The Ladyman Defense attorney runied it for them.We are all sick of her rudeness
@artzychic
@artzychic 7 ай бұрын
I thought he had been fair till today. After watching this a couple of times, I'm thinking two things. Either he gave them the legal grounds to appeal (for their benefit) or he felt the crunch of time because he had to speak to one of the jurors bosses. After he throws his fit over time, the first thing he does is address the juror over the phone call. The prosecution takes and excruciating painful amount of time doing nothing and asking stupid questions. The best part of the trial is the defense. If he's convicted, the jury has just been asleep this whole time. The prosecution has not proved their case. They've actually made him look innocent because the state is so inept.
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
@@artzychic Evidently you havent watched the entire trial! The judge has to be fair! He allowed the "masculine" defense attorney to go on and on and on the previous day asking pointless and disrespectful questions! The S-He defense attorney was being extremely rude to the witnesses! It was time for him to take back his court ,demonstrate fairness to all ,and remind the defense that he is in charge!
@mandieemberton2705
@mandieemberton2705 7 ай бұрын
Judges ruling totally impedes defense right to fair trial - time restrictions suddenly imposed on main witness? Definitely reason for appeal if required
@lisakelley4583
@lisakelley4583 6 ай бұрын
Judge is out of order
@falseprophet1024
@falseprophet1024 6 ай бұрын
Another judge trying to fix a bullshit case. What a disgrace.
@DawnPawlik-gt6zr
@DawnPawlik-gt6zr 7 ай бұрын
This is the State’s problem not the Defenses!!
@lisakelley4583
@lisakelley4583 6 ай бұрын
Judge is rude he needs to step off
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
THE JURY MEMBERS ARE ON FIRE 🔥 ABSOLUTELY 💯 GREAT QUESTION BY THEM... THIS DETECTIVE COULDN'T EVEN ANSWER!!!
@vickiwaddell8832
@vickiwaddell8832 6 ай бұрын
Appeal to higher court
@iquitnow
@iquitnow 6 ай бұрын
Unbelievable.
@childtimematters513
@childtimematters513 6 ай бұрын
Mid stream, the Judge wants to require time restrictions AFTER the state has filled 4 weeks. How is this fair to the Defense? This is outrageous! 4 minutes for cross examination of a crucial witness.
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
Privacy my butt... Great job defense.
@5kidsBubby
@5kidsBubby 6 ай бұрын
Judge walks out b/c he's conflicted. Do the right thing and be exposed by blackmailers!
@a.h.g.9kokushibo
@a.h.g.9kokushibo 6 ай бұрын
What's the rush? Judge has a vacation to go to?
@mildlyobscure
@mildlyobscure 6 ай бұрын
was he legally or illegally on the man’s property? was he legally or illegally in the united states? …. illegal is the answer.
@palominopalomino-k8t
@palominopalomino-k8t 6 ай бұрын
this judge is doing his best to cause a mistrial and set this man free, he already dismissed first degree murder charges against this killer .
@bswogger4656
@bswogger4656 7 ай бұрын
This is not good!
@vollandt
@vollandt 6 ай бұрын
judge has no clue what it's like to be a defense lawyer.
@kunalbarot852
@kunalbarot852 6 ай бұрын
This judge should be censured and quite frankly should be removed from the bench immediately!
@marianneknapp4846
@marianneknapp4846 7 ай бұрын
I Love the Defense A Female Dream Team let Mr.Kelly go ✝️🙏💜
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
Are you sure they consider themselves females?
@Nono38-jj1tk
@Nono38-jj1tk 6 ай бұрын
​@@chunk2596Aren't you a cute little guy
@vickieself4762
@vickieself4762 6 ай бұрын
I’m only making an observation here. I’m not suggesting that what happened to this migrant was justified or not. BUT it’s Interesting that the prosecutor argued during his closing statement that the victim and his friend came to America illegally to chase the American dream. The prosecutor also stated that the victim had a radio so that he could communicate with the people that needed to pick him up once he arrived at the predetermined location, that it had nothing to do with coordinating with cartels or smuggling, yet in this testimony, the prosecution is asking this detective about the victims cell phone. HE HAD A CELL PHONE!! And yet people are not to believe that he wasn’t some sort of coyote or working for or with the cartels, despite the fact that he had already entered the United States without being caught (prosecution says to chase the American dream) but yet he didn’t go to his pickup location and continue to get further away from the border, he, according to the prosecution, was on his way back across the border into Mexico when he was shot on this ranchers property with the backpack, a fanny pack, binoculars, a cell phone, AND some kind of walkie talkie or 2 way radio. How in the heck would anyone not question what this man was actually up to??
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 6 ай бұрын
Old Dude is Not a Victim. 🤷🏻‍♂
@OzzyOzzy543
@OzzyOzzy543 7 ай бұрын
And the winner of the worst tv coverage goes to..........
@lisakelley4583
@lisakelley4583 6 ай бұрын
Free George
@curtispechacek1814
@curtispechacek1814 6 ай бұрын
THIS SHIT IS CROOKED FROM THE TOP DOWN, SHERIFF, INVESTIGATORS, DA AND JUDGE!!!!!
@stephenbowles7153
@stephenbowles7153 6 ай бұрын
besides all that, since when is a judge worried about the amount of time taken. Look at all the adjournments taking place daily for insignificant reasons. These clog the court dockets more than a thorough defense attorney. a travesty of justice is taking place.
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
No, You could of went to the port of Entry... ???
@iquitnow
@iquitnow 6 ай бұрын
Arizona residents should be storming the courthouse. This man should work at Albertsons not a murder case
@bodhi1462
@bodhi1462 7 ай бұрын
Work 8 hour days like the rest of us!
@paw-prints839
@paw-prints839 6 ай бұрын
Thats BS! Limiting cross is a guaranteed appeal. These judges are so bias, they are supposed to be neutral. SMH!!
@FrankHoneycutt
@FrankHoneycutt 6 ай бұрын
Someone get the camera man an inhaler, that heavy breathing is driving me nuts. 😆
@curtistownsend-rz6ek
@curtistownsend-rz6ek 5 ай бұрын
7 jurors to Acquit 1 juror ?
@loukosa7738
@loukosa7738 5 ай бұрын
This judge should be removed from the bench
@RosieAltamirano-y9s
@RosieAltamirano-y9s 7 ай бұрын
FJB...
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas 6 ай бұрын
SIR, YOU'RE A FULL OF IT... WHY COULDN'T YOU RECORD THE ENTIRE VIDEO 😅😅😅 OH, UR ANSWER IS BS!!
@lisaeaker9064
@lisaeaker9064 5 ай бұрын
This judge should not be a judge after this case. A defendant is innocent untill proven guilty and theres laws set inplace that this judge has clearly violated and obviously has made his mind up the the defendant is guilty and cleary us treating this as so
@stephenbowles7153
@stephenbowles7153 6 ай бұрын
I have always believed the Arizona flag is similar to the Vietnamese flag.....communism and liberalism go hand in hand ....even in Arizona
@lbca81
@lbca81 6 ай бұрын
She is the one who estimates defense case will take 2 days. He isn't limiting her. As to the cross she has already been crossing for over an hour, her partner chewed up hours the day before on the 911 witness
@Trendyviews.
@Trendyviews. 6 ай бұрын
Wrong. Watch again.
@stephenbowles7153
@stephenbowles7153 6 ай бұрын
I agree with most all the comments below. lThis judge should be benched
@junebug7606
@junebug7606 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesus !! Lady they are not migrants they are Trespassing....when in Rome you should Know the laws .hopefully this will send a strong message. Do not Trespass !!
@mildlyobscure
@mildlyobscure 6 ай бұрын
judge is corrupt
@PamelaTaylor
@PamelaTaylor 7 ай бұрын
How Large Is That Ranch?
@PhotographerAZ
@PhotographerAZ 7 ай бұрын
don't quote me but I think 170 acres (i'm sure someone will correct me LOL)
@PamelaTaylor
@PamelaTaylor 7 ай бұрын
@@PhotographerAZ if he'd Had That Much Land & Add to His Age He Couldn't Know Who Pass over, Or That Person could've Chuck over
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
BRAVO JUDGE for FINALLY taking charge! Evidently you all havent watched the entire trial! The judge has to be fair to all! He allowed the "masculine" curly hair defense attorney to go on and on and on the previous day asking pointless and disrespectful questions! The S-He defense attorney was being extremely rude to the witnesses! It was time for him to take back his court ,demonstrate fairness to all ,and remind the defense that he is in charge! Notice the Manly defense attorney kept her BIG Mouth closed this time! WE ARE SICK of BOTH defense leads thinking they own the courtroom! THEY ARE SO DISRESPECTFUL and classless!!!
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 7 ай бұрын
Clearly you have not watched the trial on Thursday, the prosecuting is stalling as much as they can. But glad this judge is so openly biased that he gave them enough grounds for appeal in case they lose. But I think the jury will find him not guilty cause so far the state has only been speculating, we have yet to see any proof.
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
@@ingeborgsvensson4896 Obviously you are bias so there is no need to further discuss the matter! He is GUILTY AF and his wife is also a liar! Time to lockem up!
@MuffinstoMangos
@MuffinstoMangos 7 ай бұрын
Clearly YOU did not see the tormented questioning of Mrs Kelly...OVER N OVER N OVER N OVER the same damn question...how many shots!! Awful behavior to an old lady who couldn't hear good an scared out of her mind. The Gov just wants a conviction to send the message...this is the GOVERNMENTS FAULT. LETTING MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS JUST WALK ACROSS WITHOUT A CARE. THEN YOUR PROSECUTING AN AMERICAN OLD RANCHER FOR DEFENDING HIS OWN PROPERTY. YA'LL R FULL OF SHIT COMMIES.
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 6 ай бұрын
Even if prosecution is wasting time, there are constitutional rights of a defendant that cannot be violated. We've seen plenty of time wasting in other trials that was infuriating. If that leads to loss of jury because of illness or other and you don't have enough left to deliberate than let that be the reason and then it's on prosecution and not because the judge is limiting defense attorney.
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 6 ай бұрын
@@origamikiddo2625 Agree. To me it seems that the so called 'confession' to BP of shooting over their heads was misconstrued by the police as an admission of shooting the victim. Now it makes perfect sense why they arrested him immediately. When they eventually realized their mistake, instead of releasing Kelly they dug themselves in even deeper with this trial as a result.
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 7 ай бұрын
Guilty AF
@GirlfromFinland
@GirlfromFinland 6 ай бұрын
Why you troll on every comment?
@chunk2596
@chunk2596 6 ай бұрын
@@GirlfromFinland Because I am grown and I can! MYOB ...Finland is calling you!Time for you to go.. Bye
@Trendyviews.
@Trendyviews. 6 ай бұрын
​@GirlfromFinland report the troll.
@ingeborgsvensson4896
@ingeborgsvensson4896 6 ай бұрын
@@GirlfromFinland He claims he is a grown man but doesn't explain his childish behaviour: clearly proud to be an idiot. Luckily not all Americans are like that. 😉
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