Discussion on 21-days deadline to register spaza shops

[@HarmonyLovePeace]

The law clearly states that foreigners are not allowed to own micro businesses. Ramaphosa is deliberately violating the constitution and must be held accountable

[@jameskillu9171]

which law is this, The law of the Jungle.

[@sibusisomosieleng3193]

​@@jameskillu9171wena James so called u 2 forward uyaphapha my guy and 2 confatable in a foreign country

[@marysinclair3759]

What law. I would like to know. It is tragic that so many children have died. All the issues we are experiencing was caused by the incompetence of the ANC government. The poison hotline was closed down. Border control is nonexistent. There are no health inspectors. There are too few ambulances. The roads the health services must travel on are potholed. The townships do not receive services such as waste collection and additionally townships use bucket systems which also attract pests and disease. Add to that blocked sewerage and storm water pipes and close liveing conditions and you have a nutritious ground for rats, mice, cockeroaches and a plague. All of these issues should not happen if municipalities are correctly run. Industrious people grab at the chance to sell poison by splitting up industrial poisons normally used for farming with no control measures or proper storage. Customers buy these poisons and use them in their homes and it doesn't necessarily follow that a spaza shop sold that poison but rather that it was already present in the home improperly stored and incorrectly used. Spaza shops make up at least 5% of the GDP and the majority of these SPAZA shops have provided an extremely good service even to the extent of allowing customers in times of trouble to hold off paying till the end of the month. Additionally they provide employment opportunities to the larger population and many have been operating for many years with the SPAZA shop being handed down through generations. I abhor the way SPAZA shops are being vilified. I agree there should be some sort of formalisation however one does not have to register a business if the turnover is below a certain level which guaranteed many are. 40% of SPAZA Shops are foreign owned so the majority of SPAZA shops are run by South Africans. There is a case to be made both ways and the matter should be handled with far more tact and not the quick fix solutions that should have already been in force.

[@HarmonyLovePeace]

@@marysinclair3759 I don't have time to read your letter, it's too long. My question is where are you from... let's start there

[@livinganddyingabroad]

@@marysinclair3759well said the anc is to blame for this even their response is a disgrace tbh

[@Madamspeaker2]

This registration is a way to go, some don't qualify at all that's why they are frustrated.Ppl stop buying from my friend.

[@jameskillu9171]

You sound more frustrated than Spaza shop owners,

[@DanteDalla]

​@jameskillu9171 😂😂stop projecting you're all over the comments having a complete meltdown

[@User-.-_007-s]

​@@jameskillu9171run chief people will rise soon we are not cowards like zimbos

[@ayandasigxashe7198]

🙈🫣 Always reactive my government! This one is landing a killer punch to the leadership especially President CR, you just don’t know what is going on in SA🤞🏽!!

[@paulinapatel]

21 days is enough.

[@Mfimbosh]

21 days in Enough. The opportunity to register is open forever. But you can't run white not registered after 21 days. Ramaphosa's decision was smart. 1. He avoided SAHRC drama but shut down foreign spaza shops. 2. No papers? = No registration. 3. R5m minimum investment for foreigners. 4. Foreign spaza owners must partner with South Africans.

[@matrix0085]

With due respects, all these were meant to register the business before it was opened,so 21 days is a grace period. We all know what the migration act states. Both the landlord and spaza owner, should follow the laws period. If it was me, I would say close all, until they registered and follow health safety .After people died knowing that these shops are breaking the laws. We all know the foreigners aren't documented breaking the law making money not paying taxes nor are they following the rules of law.

[@jameskillu9171]

in your xenophobic dreams

[@katlegomathabe9666]

Go register-21 days is plenty. Extensions will be granted, but unregistered shops can't run forever while waiting for registration. Think of the risks we faced before: if a child got poisoned, investigations hit dead ends because no one could identify the real owner-everyone played the clueless employee. This system solves that. Also, can asylum seekers even run businesses? And don’t forget the R5 million minimum investment rule. Ramaphosa knows many lack proper documents and can’t register, forcing partnerships with South Africans to operate legally.

[@NtombiifikileNdlovu]

SA should run their Spaza. For so many reasons. Mr Thwala the Constitution we drafted at Mike Mabuyakhulu's offices in 2015 was so informative. Pls invite me to your Indaba as a District Chairperson of Formal/Informal Traders @ Amajuba District

[@firstcaro3900]

Where is this old wowan staying first of most? She musn't talk for most of us at soweto.

[@gooodwillmathebula3581]

This foreign nations are not allowed to run our economy

[@jameskillu9171]

Do you even know what economy iis. Do you understand what white monopoly capital means.

[@sibusisomosieleng3193]

​@@jameskillu9171when are u going back home bafo can I ask you question have u ever voted in this country why I'm asking you to quick to jump in and answer to South African issues bafo

[@lulamasithole7828]

​@@jameskillu9171do u know Mangwangwa is feeding elephants to ur ppl

[@User-.-_007-s]

​@@jameskillu9171you cowards run like rats all over world if you hear permit you run but to fight like kenya mosambiq you run so sad my boy

[@katlegomathabe9666]

@@jameskillu9171 What is white monopoly capital?

[@NtombiifikileNdlovu]

Remember, anyone who opens a business should Register it. These People still need to have Proof of Residence, Site Zoning by the Municipality. These are lengthy Processes. But the question remains, SA Spaza Owners were pushed out of business by Wholesalers through Price Hicking to an extent they felt that they were Wholesale Agents. So then they chose to be Landlords. Now is the Government taking that away from them as well???

[@SiphoMosea-df5hz]

21 days its better than deporting them. Secondly our brothers from other countries let them sell clothes, petrol, houses, cars . Not food. Not FOOD. Let the Spar, shoprites. Pick n pay super save let them start mini shops in township. Working together with local business people and employing locals. We need healthy food n cheaper petrol n houses

[@NtokozaPearlKhaula]

They must not sell clothes big shops and clothing shops, Factors are closed because of all this illigal foreigners clothing shops We are all business of South Africa to be managed buy South Africans and they are not brothers and sisters.They just parasite.Who destroying everything they find.

[@Nzeenzi]

Our useless govt.😮‍💨

[@nicprince4198]

I think the 21-day deadline to register their business is welcomed, but they need to make sure and regulate where these shops het their stock and products. It's of no use if these shops are registered, but they still get the same products and sell it off to the public.

[@japrosper7240]

Wow. They are giving them, power to operate

[@VuyisileKunene]

I find it very dreadful to even be listening to this,should foreign nationals be allowed to operate a business? I mean what is going on here No one excluded South Africans from running this line of business It takes resources and the know-how to run a retail business, a successful one for that matter

[@tebogomahapa1633]

Right now as you are sitting foreigners are running to Home Affairs with local girls to get married and those leasing out their spaces are running to register the spazas in their names as fronts for their foreigner tenants.

[@5801160052086]

Yes stop kicking against the 21 days, move your spaza asses and go register Start the process NOW not on 21st day

[@NeriahB66]

You must have a license before you open any business.The foreigner don't abide by our rules.

[@NtombiifikileNdlovu]

In 2015 we were in Durban as well, even Registered an NPO, mainly to implement a solution of Bulk Buying. Wholesales were to be built in Townships n our SA Spaza Owners to return to run their Spaza with assurance to profit.. While ensuring that Blacks don't just remain as Consumers but be equipped to be Farmers n Manufacturers...

[@thamimahlangabeza6639]

These associations of informal business are complaining about the timeframe of their members expected to be legally compliant, but this problem wouldn't have arisen if they had exercised a proper oversight of their members. They don't want to admit that they slept on the job.

[@ThabangInnoc-de5zb]

We don't need any balance,they must leave now.this old woman is out of order 🤔😞😞

[@butikomane5764]

This issue is very easy to solve the government should just set up refugees centers next to our borders and tell everyone who comes forward from now onwards asking for permission to open a spaza shop under the pretext of been an asylum seeker to report there and be housed there until is safe to return back to their home countries ,95% of foreign nationals who owns spaza shops are claiming to be asylum seekers we will see if they are indeed asylum seekers or they are here for nefarious reasons ,we will see if they are here for spaza shops or indeed seeking refuge. our countries laws are been undermined.

[@TshiamoKhunwane]

Where the 22 children given 21 days to live?

[@kagishojantjies2680]

21days is enough they should have had they papers in order before opening a shop not start now...

[@mck5549]

Locals are receiving rent from the people running spaza shops and no one is talking about this contribution to the township economy, so when the foreigners go then many people are going to be left without tenants.

[@farees2211]

Please Don't interviewing this woman

[@samigujjar4509]

U fool😂

[@jameskillu9171]

The xenophobes only know HATE.. They are so CONFUSED

[@NattyTuramo]

becz she is real south african❤

[@jubayedahamed8701]

Yes very sad. This gentleman pushes and talks about foreign nations. It is clear that South Africans Don't want foreigners. But if we analyze earlier in history, the economic part of foreign countries till now involves South Africa. So we are not wrong. the one hand have five finger but it not same. but we are appreciate about this law and we are agree we are very happy.

[@gilmourwarren7683]

I want to see if this plan of CR going to work and how its going to play out with the voter lol our country is a circus and we the clowns

[@Thesa.]

Kante it’s every shop owners not registered? and they want the government to give them more time continue to sell illegally.

[@tebogomoselane854]

so this old woman

[@samigujjar4509]

She said the truth 😊

[@SibusisoMvumvu]

Magogo wena utshiswa yikaka kanti who's side r u on?

[@sandilemsibi]

Just register people and shut up. you will get an extension if necessary. Stop complaining before even trying.

[@thulubhekemiya2988]

Firstly register foreigners and move them away from spazashop

[@User-.-_007-s]

They must leave Sa asap

[@Leroy-l9w]

You have SA in other countries. No one is asking them to leave. As an outsider i cannot believe Africans are treating other Africans in this manner. Those of us in our country are in total shock!!​@@User-.-_007-s

[@a-psycho_sa]

He’s not answering the question 😂

[@io_inc]

Are you aware that those who are in hailing services don’t need to provide a work permit in order to register to be a driver

[@User-.-_007-s]

They will be dealt with soon people shall rise

[@KwadwoAborampah-cx8dz]

Idi Amin tactics 👀

[@YohannesAto]

As a formally recognized refugee in the Republic of South Africa, I am struggling to comprehend the stringent requirements for registering spaza shops. With no job opportunities available to me, my spaza shop serves as a vital means of sustenance. I urge you to reconsider measures that may forcibly shut down my livelihood. Where are the refugee camps equipped to accommodate formal refugees like myself, should you decide to revoke our right to operate spaza shops? Furthermore, I propose that the government consider subsidizing local entrepreneurs, including refugees, to empower us to establish and maintain businesses. This would enable us to contribute meaningfully to the economy, despite not meeting traditional business ownership criteria. As refugees-turned-entrepreneurs, we are integrating into society and generating income within the bounds of our permitted activities. The 21-day timeframe for compliance is insufficient, considering municipality officials themselves struggle to grasp the procedures. I implore you to reassess these regulations and provide tangible support for refugee entrepreneurs like myself, rather than perpetuating barriers to our economic inclusion.

[@ThembelihleNtabeni]

Arg Xoli is such a poor anchor, can't probe key questions, doesn't even make sure his questions are actually answered. uDom lomntu man

[@faithMketo]

Whos 21 days for who? south africans or Foreigners????

[@khantsembatsane9255]

Everyone

[@naasikhendricks1501]

IMF rule!!!

[@messithegoat8246]

What disicion, who is not clear. Please stop talking do your job, our children are dying.

[@PhumzileMgujulww]

What l fail to understand is, did south Africans ever denied an opportunity to operate as tuck shop owners, are south Africans not the ones giving these foreign nationals a right to operate in their backyards.lf these foreign nationals leave, the landlords will not allow south Africans to use their backyards they will have to do business in their backyards and l wonder if south Africans will be able to provide the full house service as these people were doing, the truth is these people know how to run business rather regulate and integrate our people into them so that they can learn and believe me everybody will benefit

[@User-.-_007-s]

Spazas are like mafias pushing Sans out so dont talk ru bish here

[@MrMthethwa86]

South Africans operated tuckshops before foreigners got here .

[@silaskhalishwayo]

GNU IS FOLLOWING IMF LAWS

[@User-.-_007-s]

I think she is married to pakistani or bangladeshi