Next Gen Fullstack React with TanStack

[@ryan_t_brown]

Tanner is the person who most closely mirrors my own thinking on everything web related, he just explains it way better than I do, probably because he's way smarter than me.

[@WesBos]

Its been a few weeks since we recorded this and I've thought about it every day since. I reaaaaly thing this framework is going to hit for many React devs

[@dalanxd]

And you two killed it with the interview, congrats! This is my favorite episode so far 🙏🏻

[@JLarky]

Thing or think?

[@WesBos]

@@JLarky thing

[@paull4783]

This was great! I really like how Tanner sees patterns in processes, tries to simplify on one overarching idea (async data management), and then everything opens up from there and slots in nicely. His thinking is the right balance of ideal architecture and practical architecture.

[@nicolaska1761]

What an episode, it was amazing ! The fact that his framework Tanstack Start actually is build for CSR first will really make the difference, most enterprise applications are completely private and do not need any kind of serverside rendering or actions, yet in the current state of the react world we have to work with frameworks that enforce us to do backend work even when not needed.

[@paragateoslo]

This exactly! I think this is one of the biggest problem with the web. Using one tool for every job. When you have fast internet, private system and fast machines, you get all cons of next with barely any pros.

[@tannerlinsley]

Bostack & Tolstack! lol love it.

[@omofolarinajibade]

We love you

[@guiiimkt]

I love this guy. Thanks for everything Tan. 🙏🏻

[@Vantivify]

God damn. Gimme tanstack start release so I can drop that frigggin nextjs already 🎉🎉🎉🎉.

[@jeresalem]

100%

[@Iammrunkown]

Our React ecosystem hero

[@stevecastaneda]

10:22 This is exactly what I did. 🤣 It's been a while since I've been genuinely excited to try a new framework. Tanner kills it with explaining and his excitement absolutely shines through.

[@harisonfekadu]

Tanner seems like a really cool guy!

[@coherentpanda7115]

I'd pay to pair program with him for a few weeks. His knowledge and programming skills are otherworldly.

[@Vedariy]

God bless you and your team, Tanner!

[@jamesgphillips91]

been working on a new project using loco rs and tan stack for my front end. Love it!

[@ebratz]

What a masterclass! Learnt so much from this episode

[@dennisyo]

Holy crap, everything Tanner mentioned sounds awesome

[@TomWhitelaw]

Now I’ve got no choice but to go and play with this. Great episode, guys!

[@timmeehan2365]

Dope interview! Nitro coming from the Nuxt team and powering other full stack frameworks like TanStack Start, Analog, Solid Start is crazy

[@everythingisfine9988]

31:15 Damn... This is the Astro of Enterprise applications

[@StingSting844]

What a great snack for the weekend! Beautiful! Was waiting for this for a while now!

[@steve-adams]

I love that people are talking about putting state into primitives like the URL and DOM again. It's a great way to work. Sometimes it's impractical, but there's no reason not to try when it's possible.

[@justin.johnson]

Great talk fellas 🎉

[@masaratech]

Tanner, Pleeeeease save us from frameworks nightmare with Start, I am looking forward to all the upcoming features.

[@manutechashuman]

Love the episode! Unsolicited feedback, and I am aware that is difficult on podcasts, but it would be nice to see some simple code examples to follow along the conversation.

[@neelgajjar5295]

Great talk ❤

[@SoftIceCreamMan]

Great episode!

[@arpanchattopadhyay]

cant wait for the beta of tanstack start to try it out. Also Scott's segue game is so strong, I was thrown off when the sponsor segment came into this video because I was expecting Scott to say something cool or witty

[@abubakarsadeeq2974]

How can I live on earth as a developer without tenstack.

[@jon1867]

I bigtime am starting to feel like Tanstack is objectively becoming a better choice for most people than NextJS or Remix at this point.

[@databasemadness]

Tanner is the man!

[@syntaxfm]

Tanner is the manner

[@dhaw]

Amazing

[@tomino133]

Love Tanner and his work. I have no idea why SPAs all of the sudden became the devil over the past few years.

[@coherentpanda7115]

Vercel is why. They are marketing and astroturfing like crazy.

[@tomino133]

@@coherentpanda7115 Yeah. I regret choosing Next at work 3 years ago. Stuck on the pages router without the capacity to migrate. Hosting on Vercel as well. It kills me that I'm actually supporting them even though the money they get paid is not mine 😀

[@BlazeShomida]

57:17 man’s said “affordable” tv for his basement. “Lg c4 77in” that’s like $2,500 I wouldn’t call that affordable 😂. I was thinking like $300-$500, not $2,500😂

[@tannerlinsley]

Mostly referring to affordable within a specific class of features, mainly *large OLED* screens. I definitely wouldn't call any TV in that class "generally affordable" though, you're totally right.

[@Peter-sz8gx]

With regards to pushing RSC as the default way for React, I think they’re going to change their mind about it. Just like Deno tried to correct a lot of things with Node.js, they realised that appeals more to greenfield apps, and eventually they need to support existing legacy applications and platforms.

[@tannerlinsley]

We can only hope. I'll try my best to support them, but I also believe they're being over prescribed and marketed.

[@rajaark5643]

What if Tanner comes into headless components like React aria, Headless ui and ARK ui

[@tannerlinsley]

Happy to keep my distance here. Unless it's a clear state management nightmare (like date pickers).... we're building date primitives right now at TanStack.

[@stianmaurstad]

Tangent 🎉

[@jeresalem]

React Static 2.0!

[@succatash]

I think people feel like there supposed to use RSCs cause its the next iteration of react

[@tannerlinsley]

Yep, and that's a shame. They have good use cases, but not a silver bullet. Currently being overhyped and marketed to help React and friends push through the technical challenges that lie ahead to get them normalized and shipped.

[@MrEnsiferum77]

If I can make vite client as vite ssr with vinx and nitro, what is the point of ssr frameworks....

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

Literally do people ever stop and wonder maybe Vercel, the company that is selling you compute on the server, might have a vested interest in pushing everything to be server-first?

[@StephenFosterUK]

please invent TanStack-NoSwivelChair

[@succatash]

I pray he changes the name