Next Gen Race Drone? (Still flies for 30 mins!)

[@wethepeople420]

When are you going to make these frames available.

[@KofiAmponsah]

That 40 seconds rip may be some of the best I've ever seen! Awesome video!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@alexfpv8112]

Chief here 🙂 Thanks for the awesome footage of the Chief 2005’s and glad you are enjoying them! Awesome video! 🚀

[@ScottTomlinson]

No, Thank you! Awesome to see you here Alex! Really enjoying them.

[@Xerpocalypse_]

I'm a simple man. I see a Scott Tomlinson video, I click the notification. Fantastic as always!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Appreciate that mate! Thanks for coming back and checking it out.

[@ortammanyaa]

Same too.. subscribed and all notifications on..

[@CircleSFPV]

UL racers are the future, I've been flying one for a year now. Check out the SpeedSource ULX for a purpose built UL racing frame.

[@Sugar_K]

Nice setup man

[@spectrexfpv]

Great video on this topic! I've been thinking of endurance races for fpv whenever I watch races or race clips. Like they have WEC for cars, if the batteries and the thermal performance of the boards can keep up with a certain mark, these endurance races would be amazing to watch.

[@idontcare7961]

The quality of content i thought this is 100k sub channel, you definitely deserve more and im sure you will get it soon.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Maybe one day! Thanks for the love.

[@j3kyllfpv45]

How can I get my hands on one of these frames love the build

[@jasonstevens7284]

I love it. Very clean build.

[@aakashjana6225]

looks like the LiIon packs are truly a game changer for flight times, these ultralight quads should change the entire industry.

[@ScottTomlinson]

You might be right!

[@slowridefpv9668]

Agree 100% such a sexy build!

[@aakashjana6225]

@@slowridefpv9668 that is indeed quadgasm 💯

[@Followerguru-r6i]

U gained a subscriber from india sir for ur hardwork

[@Robert-ug8uu]

I’m trying to decide on what motors to use on the Black Opal I got from cnc drones. I see you tried several different sizes and I was wondering if one motor stood out from the others in terms of performance? FWIW, The 5mm version came out at 50grams.

[@ScottTomlinson]

The 2005 really packs a punch but you have to live with T-Mount props. I'd probably still go with the F2203.5 but higher kv unless you want that max flight time. There's a 2000kv variant in that now too.

[@zlachannel8674]

When are you going to make these frames available.😁

[@TanM]

Super Clean,as always. But very well optimized !

[@_Brando_69]

Is there a way to buy the frame? That thing rips!!

[@ihdvqi]

Hi! Have you posted a frame drawing somewhere? I really want to repeat this project.

[@azimyth1542]

Your builds are seriously inspiring. Do you have plans to sell frames at any point? I'm having trouble finding a source for CNCing carbon fiber

[@princesfpvdrones]

Great to see the real you, in the flesh, great racing frame and set up!!

[@dustinfox5211]

Dig the music! I thought I had accidentally played my playlist in the background because I'm not used to people using pop punk for their videos!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Haha thanks Dustin. I was feeling it at the time. Thanks for stopping by!

[@mikelanzo9872]

I have now watched this video like 20 times. So impressive! 2 questions. 1: other people building ultra light builds have mentioned that FPV is tricky on really light builds as the camera angle needs to be so crazy like 60+ degrees because the quad just wants to climb, have you found that?? 2: you mentioned a slightly different “freestyle” setup. Any details? What would you change? Or is a follow up vid coming? Thanks gain for the sweet content!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Haha thanks for the views! Flying this quad is no different to my typical race quads in terms of "floaty feel" Being on the power most of the time probably negates this a little however. I do run high cam angles (~55) on everything so your experience might differ if you fly at say, 15 degrees. Yeah video is coming on the 'freestyle' build. It's similar just a squish design and different antenna mounting basically. Still a bottom mount battery.

[@Nerofir]

I want to buy this frame 😍!! (Great vidéo, and impressive build)

[@pierre.a5324]

Amazing build and nice video. Do you think that with a gopro hero 9 and a dji fpv air unit on it it Will be capable to do fresstyle with a good acceleration? Thank you

[@ScottTomlinson]

Naked vista and GoPro might work. If you're going Air unit and full Gopro then a typical 5 inch build is likely best still

[@pierre.a5324]

@@ScottTomlinson I see. Thank you 👍🏻

[@willannison1300]

How does it do on a track? Can it keep up with more traditional 5 inch race builds?

[@ScottTomlinson]

It's faster and more agile than my typical race quads. I like the fact there's less momentum in the turns too so it can tighten up corners and spirals for pilots like myself who tend to overshoot features. My concerns are more around durability of the T-Mount props (and the longevity of the actual motor mounting holes etc) It's still a relatively new concept build to me so I can update once I've really hashed it out. I'm quietly confident though.

[@nzmfpv]

That looks amazing! What is the estimated cost without receiver and battery? And what are your thoughts on Flywoo Explorer lr4?

[@ScottTomlinson]

Can't go wrong with an Explorer. Check out Dave's Rekon ones too. As for cost, less than a typical race build as the motors/AIO is a bit cheaper. I'm in Australia though so prices are a little skewed to give you a number sorry.

[@nzmfpv]

@@ScottTomlinson Thank you. I'm in Turkey so same thing for the prices :)

[@prki1024]

Hi Scott, your videos inspired me to build an ultra light 5" LR quad. I understand that low kV motors are more efficient, correct? Is it a good idea to go with ~1500 kV if I will primarily run 4S? What would be the efficiency difference of higher kV motors? I primarily care about the longest flight time and not racing (although having an option to put a 6S for a quick rip would be nice). Do you think 2005 is better for this than 2203.5 you previously tested?

[@Burwhale1]

I saw the short preview on Facebook and just happened across this vid. Very impressive. That thing is bonkers on the turns! Consider me subscribed!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Appreciate that mate. I'll catch you on the next one!

[@ezrarichardson279]

Really nice video! The sticker decals (vinyl I’m guessing) were a nice touch. Yet more proof that a bigger drone and a giant batterie isn’t always the answer for long flight times. That’s probably why my bixler 2 on a 2200 3s gets more flight time than a GoPro carrying 6000 mah setup. (Well I guess there’s a diminishing return between flight time and batterie size because of weight).

[@ezrarichardson279]

I don’t know if you agree. But that’s just what I’ve observed. Which is why mini drones seem to be better at long flight times in most cases.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Hey mate cheers, That's vinyl yeah. Adds a little flair. Absolutely, I've tried stacking batteries to the moon too but it doesn't always work out unfortunately.

[@jazepsjazeps]

Goodday! Stickers are good, also I can recommend to use light reflecfing stickers, the same which are used making road signs, so, if someday Your drone gets lost, You can go around at night time to find it using powerful light torch and looking where in field or woods You see reflecting ligt blinks. Good luck! Also, what I can say - 50gr frame weight is good, and maybe sharkbyte also is less heavy than dji hd?

[@DarrenAllatt]

Hey Scott, would you be interested in working out an Endurance Series - 1 mile out and back. Bardwell seems keen

[@RubyS.1]

Surprised I haven't seen this channel. Excellent editing love seeing the quad LOS and FPV.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks for checking it out! Probably should have used some different colour props for that part haha.

[@ryanokeefe12]

Nice video.. wish I could keep my workspace that clean. I've got shit everywhere. Frame looks a bit like the iFlight Dove. I built one for flying without a gopro, nice and light build with massive flight times.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Haha I have a few and they definitely don't all look like that.

[@bterbraak08]

JB, make notes of this vid 🤘 Excellent

[@auckwads8169]

Really nice . How are you mounting those props though ? All the suggested ones are m5 nut and motors all seem to be t mount thesecdays very confusing

[@ScottTomlinson]

All five props I showed in the video are T-Mount? (The Gemfan are both T-Mount and 5mm if you don't use the adapter) I'd argue majority of the ultralight prop are actually T-Mount.

[@auckwads8169]

@@ScottTomlinson they looked like m5 and i havent much available 5inch in t mount here in uk. If those you showed also come i t mount thats great news. Looking to build an ultralite 5 next

[@jakeyoung9954]

@Scott Tomlinson do you sell these custom frames? Very interested.

[@maceliusfpv370]

nevermind the 3-d printer; cnc cutter, sticker cutter, this man has all the things. Holy sheeeez that's zippy! The higher pitched props should be good for the racers and speed demons.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Haha yeah, it's handy having a few tools. I raced this quad at a local meet all day today. Performed fantastic.

[@stratometer]

Holy crap! I'll buy a kit! That's gorgeous

[@ScottTomlinson]

Cheers man!

[@tantrumfpv726]

Nice looking fleet I mean deck of quads.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Wonder which is the luckiest haha

[@seeithappen1]

I really like this drone setup. Can you recommend an FPV cam with 5km range ? Battery pack for 30min ?

[@cam_fpv8168]

Dam that is a clean build. Also the best DVR i've seen in a long time

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks mate!

[@stuffbymatt583]

Cutting edge, great stuff with real depth to your analysis, thank you.

[@ScottTomlinson]

I appreciate your comment mate. Cheers.

[@GregQuillen]

I got 2 dead on arrival FC. I only got to test half a 4s li-ion on my 5" long range. ended at 13.2v using 1800mah (3000mah batter) and flew for 24mins.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Sucks about the DOA. Nice flight times though.

[@Jabbey71]

In looking for a good 5 inch ultra light long range quad to build. Any recommendations on a good frame? Thanks.

[@JyeSmith]

Bruh, I would love to see you build a one wheel. It would be sick.

[@WezleyVarty]

OMG now THAT would be epic!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Not a bad idea! I'll look into it ;)

[@TanM]

What's a one wheel?

[@tuan310580]

Another masterpiece ! It's crazy 🚀

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks mate! Appreciate it.

[@makesomemore_]

Noiceee slow Mo action. And looking awesome as always mate! And btw happy Easter! :)

[@ScottTomlinson]

Cheers man. Hope you have a good holiday too!

[@sulphur_fpv]

Great well edited video mate🔥 keep up the good work 👍

[@thecockroach]

Where did you get a frame with 12x12 motor mount?? I have this motors, but I can get any frame!

[@CircleSFPV]

Check out the SpeedSource ULX for a purpose built UL racing frame.

[@timburgess2417]

Another killer build 🔥, I've gotta build myself an ultralight sometime

[@ScottTomlinson]

Cheers buddy!

[@anthonyzanze5946]

and hes an Aussie too, on ya mate.

[@sarahdaviscc]

Gorgeous builds Scott!

[@gus8378]

You didn't have signal problems with the antenna being so short?

[@ScottTomlinson]

Nah, race quad has no problem. I'd run an extended one if going LR or doing more freestyle oriented stuff.

[@ducalano]

Really nice build, i like it. Is there any option to get the files for the frame? Or buying somewhere?

[@nawiedzonyfotograf9965]

Is there any chance to buy this drone ready to fly? Do You have any online store? Great work!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks mate, no sorry I don't.

[@fpvnwv1493]

You never disappoint, man! If you aren't on any of the big boy manufacturer's R/D staff, you should be! Like as Head of Dept! Please keep them vids comin! And please keep me in mind if you ever do allow private purchases. Thank you man.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks man. Comments like this keep me inspired! There's a few things happening I'm graciously apart of so you're on the right track.

[@michaldabrowski2153]

So when is going to be for sale?!?

[@Di_fpv]

We need this frame

[@topcatgc1]

Cool review and flying Scott👌

[@ScottTomlinson]

Hey Todd, thanks for checking it out mate. Hope all is well!

[@WezleyVarty]

Damnnn! Once again QLD Australia pushing the RnD boundaries for what constitutes as the standards 💪 Can’t wait to see where this goes man! Exciting times...

[@ScottTomlinson]

It's all happening I know! Are we the new Silicon valley of drones? haha

[@AfafPrinceOSH]

@@ScottTomlinson how would a 4 inch prop perform with those motor?

[@chip2034]

Same here love the video first time I seen you I am going to start watching your videos good job brother

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks Jose. Appreciate the comment.

[@benni199988]

Hi, first of all, nice video and could you tell me which cutter you use and which feeds and speeds to cut the carbon frames? I have a CNC at home but as far as I know, carbon isn't easy to work with. Found your channel today and instant subbed keep up the great work.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks mate. Speeds and feeds are a bit in depth for a YT comment. Carbon sheet is actually an easy material to work with. Basically you want to use a carbide burr type bit and climb mill everything. Spindle RPM 20,000+ and as fast as your machine will allow without chattering or breaking bits.

[@benni199988]

@@ScottTomlinson Thanks for the info, guess I will have to try out myself wish me luck. :)

[@ScottTomlinson]

Can add me on FB mate. Happy to chat more.

[@billhash8296]

You plan on selling these drones or are you selling them on a website already please let me know thank you

[@mikelanzo9872]

So it looks like you used a xt60 which adds 5 grams over xt30, but it’s only a 35amp board: what was the thought process here?? Or was I wrong thinking you used an xt60?

[@ScottTomlinson]

XT30 to XT60 is only 2 grams difference (1.1g vs 3.3g ish) Batteries come as XT60 so it made sense.

[@mikelanzo9872]

@@ScottTomlinson yeah cool: that makes sense. And what size capacitor did you need to protect that little board without wasting space. Your rubbing 6s so I imagine it still has to be fairly hefty?

[@runpuppyfpv5744]

That thing rips

[@wakingdreamfpv]

This looks fun!

[@airzfpv8848]

Wow that thing absolutely rips 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@MrSmithFPV]

Nice little quad 👌

[@itsmeRizzG]

Very cool! Love the build! I came across this because I am designing a sub 250g 5 inch freestyle quad for my final year engineering project. I just recently got into FPV and love it! As it stands I am considering using a modified TBS Source podracer frame (adding standoffs and top plate by slightly elongating the bottom plate to allow mounting all the components and leave enough room for a GoPro on top; bottom mount battery). Considering using these same motors on 4S at 2000kv. I have just heard/read that the higher kV on such a light 5inch build becomes less ideal for smoother/tighter freestyle control so I'm trying to lower KV as much as possible without loosing too much speed on the top end. Is there any input you might have into this reasoning or any suggestions you might make for motor selection in this case? Thanks!

[@SirAdrian1st]

Will you share the frame?

[@itsmeRizzG]

@@SirAdrian1st it's nearly finished and I am presenting it next week. It's come out so well I'm actually considering marketing it at this point. Will post a video about it in a few weeks on my channel and that should have more details about the frame on there 👌

[@itsmeRizzG]

@@SirAdrian1st also, note I actually ended up going with smaller motors to drop the AUW but still keeping necessary freestyle performance. AUW with a 530mah HV Lipo comes to 199g. That leaves enough room to add a naked GP or insta360 and even swap out the analogue for a naked DJI vista and still be 250g with the action cam included. I also made optional TPU protector prints for the arms and motors.

[@marc_frank]

how is progress with the tubular frames? i've put mine on hold until i'm inspired again that it could actually be better in the meantime i made a 4" toothpick with the diatone mamba toka 1505 3800kv motors they are absolutely beautiful planning to use 3S 750mAh R-Lines hopefully they perform nicely, too

[@ScottTomlinson]

Oh sounds great man, I'm sure it'll do great. Still working on my tubular 7 inch yep, just waiting on a few pieces to finish the puzzle so to speak. I'll definitely upload a video once complete though.

[@marc_frank]

@@ScottTomlinson it did work very nicely with 168g auw and 7min flights i also have a new idea for a tubular frame again

[@arlomaguire7363]

never really got into drones since lipos being questionable (ik with prop precaution its good) but did i see a li ion battery there? can you now make drones without lipos? if so i might very quickly get into this hobby since its increadible.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Yes some builds are totally capable of flying on li-ion batteries. More so cruising over aggressive flying however.

[@arlomaguire7363]

@@ScottTomlinson thx, looking more into it. This hobby looks really cool

[@RyanQuellet]

Fantastic video. I look forward to more about this little monster of a quad

[@gus8378]

Are the stickers meant to reduce drag or are they just for show? Would be cool to see one that's reflective. It looks like aluminum if you use those fabric reflective tapes.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Purely cosmetic yeah. The heart frame is actually holographic. The real glossy ones look a bit tacky if you don't apply them 100% perfect. Like paint on cars, reflective surfaces always amplify imperfections.

[@ren_FPV]

Wow, very interesting

[@DennisRiessbeck]

Hey Scott, love your videos. After all this time flying them, what are your thoughts about the props? Any updates about them, my 5inch light build is on my way and I'm not sure which ones to stock up.

[@ScottTomlinson]

Cheers Dennis! I still really like the GF SL 5125-3. It's my go to for most things. I did race 7 rounds on this quad this past weekend and used the new GF 5130-3 which are also really great, I hit plenty yet only split one prop at the hub. The SL 5125-3 do tend to break a little easier but that may be a good thing on motors with such small shafts? The bi-blade really are cruising specific. I personally have only reached for them a few times. The HQ variants fly good too but as I have multiple UL quads now and they use T-mount and 5mm the versatility of the Gemfan suits my needs. In summary. If I were picking one prop for a 5 inch ultralight it would still be the SL 5125-3 (In yellow haha).

[@DennisRiessbeck]

@@ScottTomlinson not so sure about the yellow lol, but yeah I'm more of a gemfan guy anyway(running their 3inch and 6inch props). But most of the time I find myself flying biblades(I'm not racing anymore since corona) for cruise oriented freestyle. So I will get me some 5125 triblades and 5126 biblades for experimenting. Thanks for your response 👍

[@TERBANGFPV]

Awesome build

[@marksreviews3242]

Incridible nice fly

[@sixtofive]

Looks great and that's some impressive performance!

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks mate! It definitely impressed me too

[@hemmiengineering1291]

I really need your help. Could you please post your pids. I just need a starting point. My quad is as close to a build as I can get yours. Thanks

[@danielslusarz1]

I don't know what to say.... This is sicked avesome! It was nice to see this video!

[@racistpixel1017]

Beutifull drone.... Anyways, how mutch is cost to build a drone that fly for 20-30min,? Some 3 or 4, inches frystyle drone, around 100km/h or so... I dont need this overpowered beast, something like tyro 79 ir 99 level, only lasting battery

[@ScottTomlinson]

Check out the Flywoo explorer or Rekon from Dave_C

[@Infinity_world786]

Big fan from India 🇮🇳

[@ScottTomlinson]

Thanks for watching.

[@pgmcr5413]

how did you get 30 min flight time? description says 850 mAh, dvr says 20A, 0.85 Ah / 20A = 0.0425 h?

[@ScottTomlinson]

It's in the video man? Literally at the end.

[@pgmcr5413]

@@ScottTomlinson i somehow missed that thx

[@BobCorey]

Pop punk on an FPV video?!?!? = 😍😍

[@spideyprince7077]

Is it 6S and will it be possible to buy BnF versions of it or only the frame?

[@ScottTomlinson]

It is 6S yes. It's unlikely I'll be bringing out a BnF myself.

[@EnglishTurbines]

Wow, a Sharkbite system, found one...Feed looks nice, but how's the range these days? 🤔🤔🤔😳😳😯🇬🇧

[@ScottTomlinson]

Actively being worked on. Pretty cool to see the almost daily development happening behind the scenes too. I'm testing some new SB prototype stuff currently and it's looking promising.

[@artcodezen]

wow, great building!

[@DroneAcharya9]

Love the motorised timelapse.. what do you use for that?

[@ScottTomlinson]

Had my A6400 on a motorized slider. It's only a cheap ish Neewer one.

[@mikelanzo9872]

You got any plans to sell frames?? One Aussie asking another??

[@ScottTomlinson]

Making a few tweaks and considering options for getting them out there yeah mate.

[@mikelanzo9872]

Keep us posted via this chat! Well done!

[@rolliseventeen]

Want to upgrade my flywoo lr4 V2, which has the NIN 1404 motors, they claim a 9.2 g/w ratio which is stupid insane high ;-) they are ok, super light. with 4S 18650 i´m anyway above the 250grams, so i decided to make it better to rach the 30mins limit. tend to T-Motor F2203.5 2850kv, hope they are not too heavy. How are these Lumeniers in comparison to the t-motors?

[@ScottTomlinson]

The lumenier perform better but are nowhere near as durable. Also, T-Mount is a pain if you're changing props all the time. Having said that I'd probably go with these for a LR build. There's a 2600 kv.

[@rolliseventeen]

@@ScottTomlinson thank you for response. Never thought durability is the downside in these days with lumenier. I need tmount, too much props around, I missed that, that the lumeniers have standard mount. Aaah no, all have tmounts.

[@ourchannel8215]

i like this...my dream to build 5" 6s only 35g 😅

[@fridolinbauer7382]

Very nice quad, do you think it works with the Caddx Vista as well ? great channel I hit the Subscribe button

[@ScottTomlinson]

Doing that now mate (Using the XING motors) I've altered the geometry a little for less prop view with a GoPro and obviously tweaked some things to fit.

[@fridolinbauer7382]

@@ScottTomlinson Nice i'm excited :)

[@sercanalnca1962]

Woooow just 35a stack make it faster. This video teach me nothing about the higher amps. By the way which goggles and goggles antenna are you using?

[@sprayhood1]

Would it be able to carry a GoPro ?

[@HimanshuSharma-gg8de]

Hello sir, Can i get details about frame please

[@agremlin77]

Nice, good job liked and subscribed

[@federox86]

its only me,when i crash with my quad my esc always burn...4in1.. every time i hit blades, the esc off and i need to replace it... >(

[@ScottTomlinson]

Ah that sucks mate. Are you running an external capacitor? Hopefully you have RPM filtering enabled too.

[@makesomemore_]

Hey also is it gonna be on rotorbuilds?? :)

[@ScottTomlinson]

Oh I'll look into adding it man. Never used it before.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Damn can you do a LR.. like 7" ultralight frame with GPS.. Gemfan even has T-Mount 7" now

[@ScottTomlinson]

Already in the works my man! Gemfan sent me a bunch of the new UL props to test too. Both the tri and bi blade look super promising.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

@@ScottTomlinson oh awesome. I'll wait. Was going to see if I could stretch out UL6 they make it 5mm. GPS, Flywoo compass (only 0.6g), nin 2303.5 t-mount motors (can't full throttle long because heat though) , GF 7"

[@codswallop4012]

That is some SWEET dvr!

[@HarshFPV]

killing it!! these vids are the best. you got motorized dolly now? :O

[@ScottTomlinson]

Cheers bud! Haha I may have picked up a new thing or two ;)

[@julitovlogiando]

YIZUZ christ!!! how mucho for that drone??? i want it dud....