Next Level Surf Skating | Holy Toledo by SmoothStar

Is this the best surf skating ever? After the release of the new Filipe Toledo pro model, we wanted to show surfers what can be done on a surf skate.
Europe - smoothstar.com
Brazil - smoothstar.com.br
Australia - smoothstar.com.au
Riders: Tommy Demack, Ben Daly & Ben Collison

[@kjs15011]

Ripping it had a buddy that passed away here about a month ago and I looked his name up on KZbin and this is a video that came out kind of made me more proud of the friend that I had met he would’ve loved this

[@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888]

I'm sorry for your loss :(I'm

[@jofforiginal1]

Reminds me of when I was a kid...... In the 1970s 🤣 this has been my style for the last 40years, never got into 50/50switchkickflipgrinds (couldn't do em) love it

[@xx_PCCR_xx]

I love their faces!!! So much energy and action!!! 👏🤙

[@tysontuki1410]

Me too! I tried the same thing at my skate park albeit with not much success, I then understood the power and technique it requires

[@rydreyes1]

Aaaaah that last little bit at the very end is best. It’s super hard to find a shredder on the big bowl with the surf skate in ANY videos. Hard as hell. Do more, make a vid, and wear pads so you don’t hurt yourself. Well done and thank you.

[@coryponzo1383]

I've always loved skating bowls, by the time I started trying to air out of them I kept getting hurt and stopped skating. Now after finding out about these types of boards, I know I found my place in the sport. I can't wait to hit some huge transitions. Here in Sacramento, we have some huge bowls!

[@sonicskateordie7478]

Uhhhhhh yeahhhhh brutal combinación surf y skating saludos desde Venezuela

[@ReadySaltedCrisps]

These look so much more fun to ride than a regular board set up.

[@lemonite1878]

Really? Go watch Pedro Barros, Rune Glifberg on a regular board.

[@smilinkylen5621]

It is. Ive skated park/street setups, then moved to longboards, and then surf skate.... its the best feeling ripping a surf skate tbh.

[@C4RLO5_13]

Love the video bro! I can't stop watching again and again! Awesome 😎🤙🏼#surfskate

[@odayvissonsouza]

That ending was amazing, so much power. Keep bringing videos like this =D

[@medievalknievel]

I get how they roll up the bowls but when they slide up it is so cool man so cool 2watch

[@mimimi9498]

The most important thing is putting weird constipated faces in every slow motion snap

[@rydreyes1]

Those are “O” faces splooging bro brah. But whatever gets you off you know. All good.

[@mikeemswiler4541]

Lol

[@justuspierce9533]

You probably dont give a shit but does anyone know of a way to log back into an instagram account..? I stupidly lost the password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!

[@jordanandre3477]

@Justus Pierce instablaster =)

[@justuspierce9533]

@Jordan Andre i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process now. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

[@TheFletchandSebShow]

Despite all the haters in the comments we think this is waaay rad.

[@giovannisspicymeatball2921]

Dude yess

[@TheFletchandSebShow]

@@carversurfbarres9272 some tubes for sure.

[@TheFletchandSebShow]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3K3apdnrLubj8k

[@HelmetBlissta]

Beautiful

[@FerreneMachine]

From the looks of this video the trucks seem to skate like normal trucks. Everything is this video could be done the same with "normal" trucks. I really don't understand how they are different. Please explain, I'm looking to purchase.

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+FerreneMachine understand. However, no matter how loose your trucks are on a normal skate, you can't get this smooth transitions through the turns. Its the arc that you get from the bottom turn to top turn. You can really dig your inside rail into the turn, use your body to turn into it and drive through your turn. We are so confident about the surf feeling that we are willing to give you a brand new SmoothStar if you can replicate the same movement on a normal skate. Send us the video. The SmoothStar Surf truck has been around a while now and we sell a lot all over the world because the product is the closest feel to surfing outside the water. Hope this helps mate.

[@ssee7216]

Its one of those thing where you just kinda get on one to feel it... You get hella more dive in the front, and it feels like your pivot point doesnt exist (or at least isnt as harsh) in the front truck. Best way I can describe it is its like trying to make your front truck disappear as much as possible and let your rear wheels and bushings drive the whole show. Its watching it the difference looks kinda minimal but riding it is a whole other story

[@kylewattssurfing3266]

Very very cool thanks for sharing

[@pan-jw2wf]

Rip'n!!! Finally someone gets me. Imagine the stills taken from that session.

[@SmoothStarSurf]

They are pretty sick. We should upload them somewhere because we had many taken.

[@nodorksshouldgrow3309]

@@SmoothStarSurf stills is a good word for their style its very still!! if ya cant surf how can ya surfskate DORK POSERS!!!!

[@SOCyak]

@@nodorksshouldgrow3309 Stills is a skate term meaning shots taken from videos turned into photos 😂 what are you talking about??

[@stonearmsinc.3228]

I am new to these types of carving boards and have question. Do both trucks move or just the front truck on the boards in this video?

[@SmoothStarSurf]

On the front truck there is a special turning device called the SmoothStar Thruster. This is what helps the board move smoothly between turning from side to side or rail to rail. This is a very similar smooth feel to surfing. The trucks at the back should not pivot and turn... just a regular skate truck but you need it like this to provide drive and flow.

[@bruna.dutsol]

nice video

[@AMellowSkater]

correct arm position and body movement is very different between surfing and skating

[@danielaguilerairala3223]

do you know where i could find a tutorial on how to do aerials in the bowl

[@nodorksshouldgrow3309]

In the bowl dork

[@k.nickel1243]

you can do all of that on a pair of indy 159.

[@denisyaroshenko6985]

so do it

[@Danny-zq3nu]

WHEN USA???

[@bryanmilne]

Where is this sweet park? (@3:11)

[@TheFletchandSebShow]

We skate some of these parks...

[@TheFletchandSebShow]

@@carversurfbarres9272 yeah, we’ve watched that, dope clip. Have you seen this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3K3apdnrLubj8k

[@coreybyrum]

Sick video!!

[@udostein7769]

that cutting to the lyrics though

[@alexandremattos171]

Hohooo esse vídeo é melhor show

[@PeuCarvalho1]

Is it Byron Bay? Nice video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@SmoothStarSurf]

Yes! Thank you!

[@dodgey1406]

Last spot was nimbin skate Park?

[@xjoshsaucex]

so are these boards just cruiser's? just wondering what make it different

[@SmoothStarSurf]

The boards are designed around surfing. There is also a patented mechanism on the front truck called the Thruster.

[@cades.clips101]

They all go frontside on every turn

[@WjB_96792]

Not true. But yeah... theyre not doin much.

[@guydanielclotilde4861]

Frontside is more spectacular. The surprise can be how much harder than backside it is, at least on a skateboard

[@cairo_z96]

Front side is a cooler shot

[@cesdevilallonga]

and also in slow motion seems..more..? the wall is pretty vertical though?

[@S30Uploads]

Cross the street

[@HoStevie]

Hell yeah Filipe rips!

[@bencollison6783]

+Ho Stevie! Sure does, he might win the world title this year!

[@HoStevie]

Ben Collison would be crazy if he landed a big air at Pipe haha

[@singlefin7768]

Be good if we could buy these

[@serart6465]

This is Nimbin skatepark!!

[@b-lionnetwork2039]

Where is this park?

[@aaronvu6292]

Just grab a surfskate and do it. On a flat day or just have fun. You will have fun and for sure would improve your surfing. I saw it in myself and I am a 60-year-old man.

[@chaseperry9612]

What song is this?

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Chase Perry Mr. Probz - Waves

[@caseymontillero5500]

Wow I need surf skate plssss

[@apine7608]

Yay looks fun

[@mitcha4163]

byron bay?

[@barney8957]

Top de mais ! 2020

[@luizrobertorcarvalhaesaloi1985]

Década de setenta era assim louca quem viveu sabe , inicio

[@pedromq7807]

Slow motion because cant do it fast. Straight up. This sk8 is more for looks. Posers theres plenty old school surf skating, fast and raw. Look you will find...

[@Phuture33]

2:33 was badass

[@udo230FL]

baydass somewhere in texas

[@fabiovalerio4025]

Qual nome dessa musica já ouvir ela

[@urdad9853]

This isn't "next Level" we were skating like this in Venice/Santa Monica way back.....ever hear about the Zephyr Skate Team...Jay Adams.....Tony Alva....Shogo Kubo etc.....We started skatin empty pools n banks....almost 50yrs ago..... St. Clements, Belagio, Kenter Canyon etc.......ya'll r on the lateshow

[@1theRamm]

ur dad thatz the best fokin comeback for the real skate boys ..im in Scotland but watched you lot back in the 70's think i was 11 wen I got my first board 1976 fuck we loved your life style back then ...anyway great shout cheerz you've made a scotsman so fokin happy well done XXX

[@ambercromer8284]

I don't even skate and I know who they are. However, no reason to be rude. These boys are very talented. Learn some respect.

[@urdad9853]

@@ambercromer8284 mind ur bizness female

[@ambercromer8284]

Ur Dad Lol, the gender I was given at birth is not an insult, but ok. And no. People acting as if they need a father instead of are one is my business.

[@WjB_96792]

Youre so right! Jay boy was my friend, unreal surfer longboard shortboard or no board!

[@sk8board_blues248]

this video rules

[@alphalock1]

How good will it be for my surfing??

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Erik Fasterling Hey Erik. It is "the closest feel to the surfing outside the water". We have surf coaches all over the world integrate SmoothStar into their surf training program. We have loads of information on our websites on how it helps you surfing. Check our the Australian and European website for detailed information.

[@fbxworkshop3386]

Is there such a thing as a surf skate video that isn’t in freaking slow motion all the time? Surf skating is already slow. Why make it worse?!

[@pelador6322]

They think it would look epic jajaj, maybe just for posers lol

[@jeffrickerson2671]

because it looks bad in real time lol

[@nodorksshouldgrow3309]

THEY R DORK POSERS

[@danielorourke2542]

@@nodorksshouldgrow3309 No they're not. This is the origin of skateboarding. It was invented by surfers. It's really fun to skate this way and it's a lot harder than it looks

[@danielorourke2542]

No it's not slow.

[@surfcoachdariomatoso]

where are that skatepark?

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Dario Rodriguez Matoso Hi mate. We made the surf skate video in 3 locations... all in Northern NSW, Australia and Gold Coast. Balina skate park, mattocks skatepark and the best one is Nimbin Skatepark which has the snake run. Skate runs are the best because they are like a constant surf wave.

[@PardonMyFrenchTV]

Best song

[@joey6608]

So are these surf skates worth it, or what?

[@ssee7216]

Depends on how much you value the surf feel vs straight utility... also there are a whole bunch of different brands, some feel closer to regular decks and others feel completely fluid... Only thing that sucks it is a lot of damn money to drop on something you potentially will hate. Cheapest in is get a waterborne surf adapter... 60 bucks and it works with any trucks and deck... If you surf already and know you want something that completely mimics pump then invest in YOW or smoothstar... Middle of the road skateboard/surf hybrid is like the carver and waterborne... Havent tried swelltech but thats most likely gonna be more surf train than skate feeling

[@ssee7216]

If you want to get something surfy ish without spending a ton of money you can put a bennett front truck on your deck (getting a single is like 25 bucks)... not nearly as pumpable and fluid as these but if you are really skeptical you could always try that first

[@SaylEFoSho]

İ think without the Slow-Mo it would have been so much better. Like the clip at the end. İt showed what this whole thing is about.

[@fernandomaron87]

The boys are ripping hard, but too many slow-motions gets annoying for me.

[@thinsliced]

Feels like something that would play at a mall kiosk

[@fabfab5650]

jolie

[@Kevin-se7bg]

I was kind of hoping they were going to get on the coping.

[@catxcat9317]

is his waist OK?

[@jacopone18]

which wheels do you have on?

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Jacopo Tragni SmoothStar Stingrays. They are the right combination of hardness and softness. They will hold through a turn but you can also slide the tail when you want to... just like surfing.

[@steaKnife]

That ending!

[@CzaFranc]

What are these boards called

[@SmoothStarSurf]

SmoothStar

[@CzaFranc]

@@SmoothStarSurf wowww I had a look and I remember riding one of these my mate had one back in early 2015 late 2014 def getting one

[@SmoothStarSurf]

@@CzaFranc Well we are still around. Still selling many boards to help surfers improve their surfing.

[@davis_white]

I wish I was like Filipe Toledo

[@TheFootbaldd]

Great riding, but the thruster design appears to be a knock off of the Carver c7s thrust bearing pivot. If you sold it by itself I could see the use to modify an existing board, but the design is inferior to the complete surf skate trucks that are already available from a few different companies. I would imagine there is a reason why these are not distributed in the US...

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+TheFootbaldd Great question. In all honesty, the SmoothStar Thruster has a patent in the USA and many countries in Europe + Australia and New Zealand. If it was a copy, how would we have a patent. We believe we actually have more patents than any other surf skate brand in the world. And as for copy, the Thruster has existing for over 14 years, its not new. Our products are more of a surfing product. Everything we do including sponsorship, teamrdiers and product development are based around improving people's surfing... we are not a skate company. We don't sell it separately because believe it or not, there is a lot of science in the decks and wheels. All of these modifications are based on surf similarity rather than cosmetic looks like other companies. For example, all our decks are very wide to achieve the "heal to toe" weight distribution through turns. To us, the products are very different but we understand why people compare the two products. You will find the majority of surfers always prefer SmoothStar - its not us saying that... its surf coaches, surf groms and surfing professionals. We don't sell the trucks separately because its important that the product feels more like surfing. We imagine we lose a lot of sales all over the world because of this but sometimes credibility is more important than sales. For more technical details why the product is not sold separately we have written a blog post about it. smoothstar.com.au/latest-news/technical-reasons-why-we-dont-sell-smoothstar-thruster-separately/ If you are more of a skater than surfer, we actually recommend CX trucks. So how are we biased? Hope all this helps you understand it better and thanks for your contribution.

[@TheFootbaldd]

Interesting, thanks for the response. How wide are your boards on average? They look to be about average width for their size. Have you experimented with longer boards? I am just finishing a 7 ply 42" board that has a strong hyperbolic parabola through the midsection that eases into a rear kicktail and a minor concave bowl in the front. At the front trucks the board is appx 11.5" wide. As someone who has tried virtually every board sport at least a few times, I would say the longer board has a much more fluid feel then any of the boards I have rode in the past, and compared to my 34" carver with the same trucks there little comparison. I wouldn't claim to be a surfer, but I would be interested to see how much my technique transfers if I had the chance. I understand that is beyond the scope of many of your target customers, but I like to take my hobbies to a hands on level. I'd love to see how your boards feel; however, I have never seen one in person and am past the point where I would buy a complete deck from anyone. If you were to make the thruster available I would certainly be interested in getting one; but I will probably just end up casting my own hangers to modify the carver to my liking in the mean time.

[@TheFootbaldd]

+SmoothStarSurf The reason I would think that the two piece design appears inferior, would be due increased weight, ride height, and an additional place for compliance issues. (instead of just dealing with compliance where the truck base attaches to the deck, you can now also have issues where the truck attaches to the thruster) That is obviously speculation as I don't have one to examine. The reason I mention the thrust bearing pivot is that from what I have read, Carver began development on the thrust bearing pivot application in the late 90s. I seem to have came off a bit brash, so I do apologize for that. There are a lot of companies that essentially copy innovation from others, but with a complete lack of internal engineering and development. This doesn't seem to be your case after more understanding, but you have to admit that is a common problem in general today.

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+TheFootbaldd Yeah totally agree. There are about 10 other companies that sell a surf skate product. Our Thruster was invented back in 2004. So we have had our product copied as well. We know all about legal issues. If you want to get technical... you can examine the patents. SmoothStar turns and dips on an angle. Despite all the copies out there, SmoothStar is still the closest to surfing. The two part components are required to give the extended turning pivot. You need a lot of sharp smooth turns... this is just like you surf. With SmoothStar the transition from rail to rail is more realistic of surf movement. Also - if you ever see a SmoothStar, please just give it a try... then come back here and put your comments and the fact that you have actually tried it. Thanks for the input and hope this helps.

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+TheFootbaldd Geez... you are very technical. You should be our tester LOL. But our boards are much wider than any other brand. What limits the look and style, we make up for in surf functionality. For full specks of our boards, refer to our website. We also look at the right amount of concave in the decks to help keep a consistent smooth turning arc. You can really push off the rail like you would with a surf turn... Our wheels base is also critically important. To be honest, there is a real science to our decks. We spend a lot of time testing them from a surfing perspective. If you notice... we actually don't have that many designs or models compared to other brands... that is because people who ride our boards don't choose them on design but functionality. It would take a lot of time to explain our decks. Don't forget you have all kinds of surfer sizes, weights, heights and ages. To explain our approach it would be pages and paged of content. And we don't want to give away all our secrets :-| However, there is one little element we can share with you.... Since you drive from the back foot, you put more pressure on it, you need more width... Any surf coach will tell you that you put pressure on your toes and heals... So next time you jump on your board riding.... see if you heals/toes go over the edge of the board? If so, you have the wrong board to emulate surfing. kinda understand now? This is one of the important reasons why we don't sell our Thrusters separately.

[@danielorourke2542]

I tried this and it is a lot harder than it looks

[@thecamstone]

Surf Skating, or as they called it in the 70's.... "skating"

[@patriciapereira2396]

alguém sabe dizer quem é o cantor ou banda ?

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Patricia pereira Mr. Probz - Waves

[@patriciapereira2396]

+SmoothStarSurf Muito Obrigado, esse video eu assisto sempre quando vou dar o meu rolé amo esse video é um dos melhores que assisto, e os rapazes tiram onda Alohaaa!

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Patricia Obrigado PAtricia... pereira que a paz esteja contigo

[@FTWLiveMusicScene]

Love the surf Skatin' - I dig the video, just hate the song choice ! Keep ripping' dudes !!

[@Thanita.c]

Oh my goodness

[@gusohaus]

So a carver board

[@mworld124]

I love surfskate

[@juanbuendia5875]

La ultima parte re acelerada, se nota cuando el chaboncito termina hablando en la camara, como cambia la escena, te das cuenta al toque JAJAJAJAJA. Bien ahi igual, tienen un lugar genial para patinar

[@raykarena4595]

This clip is kool az...

[@oliverposch666]

Dogshit

[@mauriciotl7528]

Guys why are you not using protection equipment? that way you only look sexy for the death. By the way awesome session, I am going to acquire the Holy Toledo from my local distributor, thanks bros!!

[@황고기-q7s]

👍

[@m.t.920]

nice

[@landkiterr]

tooop!!!

[@artdude8278]

awesome video, however,.....not to hate but....... 2:40 my eyeeezzzzz.......

[@natbarton755]

Reminds me a lot of lords of dogtown.

[@11zx28]

SmileyFace Channel I was thinking that too

[@terigym8930]

omg good

[@KiakkoHirmu]

Nice!

[@karlandreaslina2528]

that mallgrab tho

[@jacoblees312]

da illuminatigamer a ikr fucking posers I bet they can’t even skate

[@Bajssafari]

Now I want a fucking mustache

[@danielorourke2542]

This what skateboarding is supposed to be about. I like this style better than modern skateboarding and it's less dangerous

[@sepg5084]

skateboarding is supposed to be what the skateboarders want it to be. downhill skaters, dancers, freeriders, street skaters, vert skaters, freestylers, etc... will do their own things. haters gonna hate.

[@danielorourke2542]

@@sepg5084 I tried this method and found out quickly that turning around this way on a ramp is the hardest way of doing it.

[@douglasfernandes7175]

F O D A ! ! !

[@SmoothStarSurf]

+Douglas Fernandes Good or bad?

[@douglasfernandes7175]

+SmoothStarSurf Good very good ;)

[@douglasfernandes7175]

+SmoothStarSurf I'm from Brazil and I'm a fan of you the videos are also angry !!!

[@bonsummers2657]

no slo mo

[@umbertothelittleitalianche1133]

Why the mall grab

[@-Waltuh_White-]

LOOK AT THE FUCKING THUMBNAIL TO THE VIDEO😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆LMFAO!!!!!!

[@Arrozconpaul]

Joe Dirt shreds

[@shaemusgarratley1080]

nice boys

[@profusionlifetv7183]

Pretty dope.

[@logchopproductions3421]

next lets re-invent the wheel

[@shaundunbar5119]

great Vid …...couple of great Mall Grabs tho 2.39 lol

[@awanweed]

bruv you guys in ballina skateparl hahahaha xD

[@samjamrose6482]

I saw a mol grab

[@bobocop1287]

Slow motion is way lame. Killed it

[@diegongenelkelen7254]

wtf xd there's more action in KONA's old videos

[@PeterMacansky]

[@pharmacy84]

Are you serious? This music? Man.....

[@karizmaone]

Where are your videos with better music? You wanna pay the royalties for them to put on better music?

[@bobbyjohnson8385]

karizmaone ever heard of band camp?

[@karizmaone]

@@bobbyjohnson8385 Bandcamp doesn't have copyright? KZbin allows integration with Bandcamp music so videos don;t get flagged for using music without the artist's permission?

[@nestor1kf]

Cámara lenta... y rápida 🤦

[@apzzpa]

2:40 frickin' posers mall grabbin

[@noice9163]

What exactly are they posing to be?