Make sure to check out the time codes on this post by clicking "read more" 👇 Legal disclaimer: we are not affiliated with Doge Audio in any way and no forms of payment was made or organized prior to this review. for more info on our Reviewer info, patreon, and personal interest in our reviews: nbtsmedia.com/about-us/ Doge 7 Tube Dac: doge.audio/product/doge-7-tube-dac/ 0:00 - Doge 7 tube DAC intro 1:16 - Why Doge DAC is a high end DAC 3:56 - Best DAC for the money? 4:50 - What's important in a high end DAC ? 6:09 - What's inside the digital section of the Doge? 8:14 - What's inside the Analog section of the Doge? 13:11 - What's inside the power supply of Doge? 13:59 - What's tube dampening in Doge? 15:50 - Doge 7 Headphone and Pre-amp 16:54 - Doge 7 inputs, outputs and ground function 17:28 - Doge remote control 18:05 - Doge 7 tube dac sound review 23:23 - Denafrips vs Holospring vs Doge 7
@patrickmccrank84144 жыл бұрын
Or pair it up head to head with the Musical Paradise D2 mk3.
@samratroy41894 жыл бұрын
Great review Jay...i am so happy that "Doge" is getting their well deserved credit...been a user for over 3 years now and started off with the Doge 8 preamp, then the Doge 7 and they are built like tanks and sound excellent to me...infact when i started my speaker auditions (before finalizing on the Legacy Focus SE), i literally hauled the preamp to all the stores / appointments to ensure i listen in using the Doge preamp...it was a good 8 month search, over 12 different speaker brands within a 20K budget and luckily gave me an opportunity to hear the difference with preamps that were almost 500% pricier and this one kicked ass everytime...I have been a fan boy and do believe there is a CULT following for Doge...I have been connecting with Marc from Doge regularly over the years, great service and response time too...Next on my list is their Doge 9 mono blocks...wish you the best brother and thanks for keeping it real 🙏
@bottleneck11002 жыл бұрын
Jay, as an older man talking to a younger man. Please never forget the importance of always doing the right thing, and saying what you mean in context and true belief, regardless of consequence. I'm buying this product on your recommendation. Words carry weight and meaning. I am confident you do this, or I would not have made this decision. That is a responsibility for any reviewer. Thanks for your channel.
@johnkim36742 жыл бұрын
Same, bought it based on this review and the Denafrips Terminator review.
@picklesandufos78602 жыл бұрын
That's not really advisable to do that. You shouldn't buy an expensive piece of equipment because of one reviewer's opinion. The proper way to go about this is to gather several people's opinions, if they are thorough, objective, and intelligent opinions, and then make a move. If multiple people are saying something is great, then you're that much safer in it being great. You have to be careful with KZbin reviewers, some, not all, will tend to say anything is great, just for the sake of putting out videos and getting views. KZbin in general, and social media for that matter is a toxin to humanity, with self-centered goals. Anything to get money........Doctors, police, fire fighters, teachers.........these are worthy professions. A KZbinr...........is a toxin, it's not growth.
@whiskeytangohotel662411 ай бұрын
How did the purchase work out? I once bought a NAD M31 based on stereophile review and A-class rating. It was reallly, really bad.
@jackj39172 ай бұрын
How did your purchase of the Doge 7 work out for you? I'm just now considering buying this dac and reading these comments, which are now 3 years old. Thanks.
@Chris-z1w5d2 ай бұрын
It's a fantastic dac, better than anything else I'd tried. Made better still with a great cd transport. Reccomended.
@saverioricchiuto53864 жыл бұрын
I would love to have your opinion on this DAC vs Denafrips’ and R2R in general, dear “R2R boy” (quote)
@matticeverhoeven65392 жыл бұрын
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@kuisin884 жыл бұрын
Just received an Email from Doge saying that their orders received has grown substantially after you and Thomas posted reviews about their products. Good for you all!
@N0va4 жыл бұрын
Another thing I must buy now, thanks guys....
@ramsaybolton90994 жыл бұрын
Wait! There will be another even better one next week, or next month, or next year. Trust me. You can get a much better whatever you are looking for by playing with the sound treatment in your room than spending money on gear.
@TheTruth275363 жыл бұрын
I have the Doge 8 preamp. I have had it for probably two years now. I did a head to head with an Audio Research LS27SE (if I remember correctly) preamp that my friend has and it blew the doors off off that preamp. No exaggeration whatsoever. So that let me know right there I had something special. I didn't have the tubes I wanted at that point and it still blew the doors off that ARC preamp. I recently got the Doge 7 DAC in. I am blown away by it. I am currently using Tung Sol 12AX7 tubes in it, but I plan on trying other tubes. As others have described the sound - 3-D, holographic and I would like to add that it has a little bit of grit/grain and SOUL. Love it. Absolutely love it. Certain songs sounded so good that I had to pause the music and walk out of the room in disbelief. I could not believe my speakers were singing like that. The best way I can describe the sound is that it doesn't sound clinical - it sounds extremely natural and you can hear the 'grain' of the instruments (if that makes sense). You "feel" the music. I bought it to upgrade from my NAD M51 DAC. I have the Synergistic Research Orange fuse in the M51. Luckily, the Doge 7 uses the same fuse type (3.15A slo blow), so eventually I will swap the fuse over. This Doge 7 DAC is the real deal. No buyer's remorse whatsoever. Will be selling the M51 very soon. Usually I want to hold on to stuff when I upgrade, but the improvement is so great, I would be doing myself a disservice holding on to the M51.
@maximemignot25302 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you use the Doge 7 DAC and Doge 8 preamp together? What is the one to chose between these two if you can only have one? am looking for 3d sound holography and musicality (currently owning a great RME ADI2 DAC AKM that both do DAC and pre).
@TheTruth275362 жыл бұрын
@@maximemignot2530 Yes I do. The DAC does give the 3D sound, but I believe something happened with my tubes. The sound went flat and I am having amplifier (NAD M22v2) problems as well. However, if I had to choose between the preamp and the DAC, it depends. If you are just starting out with building a system, get the Doge 8 first and go with a cheap DAC. If you have a good preamp, the Doge 7 is a good bet. However, with the Doge 7, the tubes are everything. I have tried different tubes and they don't give the 3D sound that the Tung Sol 12AX7 tubes originally had before it went flat. Not sure if this helps, but I have not yet tried new Tung Sol 12AX7 tubes to see if my 3D experience was a fluke. Sorry I couldn't give a better response, but this is my reality at the moment. Also, while my amp was gone for repair (and is off again to be repaired), I connected the DAC directly to my receiver in the CD input (Pioneer SC-79) and the sound was beyond better than anything else I've connected. Once again, not sure if any of this helps, but this is where I am until I can get a new amp and fresh (and hopefully higher quality) Tung Sol 12AX7 tubes.
@maximemignot25302 жыл бұрын
@@TheTruth27536 Thank you for this detailed answer and the advise! Did you contact Doge to know more about what happened to your presentation? It seems that your tubes were less than a year old, so it looks a bit odd. What amp did you sent for repair? Did you tried better tubes for the Doge 8 as it seems it is sensitive to good tubes as well.
@TheTruth275362 жыл бұрын
@@maximemignot2530 No I didn't, but that is a good idea. It could very well be the DAC. I am going to email them and get their thoughts.
@TheTruth-dm8wd4 жыл бұрын
I will give this DAC a try for sure. I followed your recommendation on the Wilsenton R8 and really enjoy that unit. Thanks for doing the homework for us.
@ThaBridge14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reviews. I have enjoyed the Denafrips Ares II after your review of it. Since the Doge it's within the price range of the Denafrips Pontus, I wonder how you compare these 2, and which would you keep. Thanks!
@richardbooth69094 жыл бұрын
It seems clear to me that you eat sleep and dream high end audio. I find that so enjoyable . Also your passion and expertise is very exciting. I agree with Steve that you represent the future of audio. So thanks and keep up the great work.
@cameronkrause47123 жыл бұрын
Jay, one of the most thorough reviews that I have seen. So much important information. Not a bunch of irrelevant information as I see come from some other reviewers.
@paulwisconsin456 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jay .. 2 years later how do you feel about the Doge 7 versus the many new DACs on the market?
@commane214 жыл бұрын
The lead designer at Doge used to be chief engineer at Jolida. I have a 12 year old hybrid integrated from Jolida and recognize several similarities. First, the remote is nearly the same. Second, the spring loaded dampers on the tubes. It seems that this component, and maybe others, are higher quality than the Jolida products, which, by the way, were also intended to compete with the big boys at a lower price point.
@stevesnipes41603 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your channel for a little while now. It feels so good to see young faces in this business. I love how passionate you are about audio. I am very passionate about audio too. Love all your videos. I have a Naim. Unitequite 2. With focal radiance heaphones and Abyss diana V2 headphones. I am going to get the Naim atom headphone amp this fall. Also have a. IFI diablo. Thank you for all of your knowledge. Bro. Much. Love and success to you.
@peterwood26333 жыл бұрын
Young ears too that you know, actually still work!
@michaelmityok10014 жыл бұрын
Love this vid jay, once again you give us a value for money.
@neuropsychdoc63414 жыл бұрын
Really nice review. I was asking, hmm, how does this compare to the Denafrips line? And behold, you got to that (at least partially) at the end of the video. Many thanks for your perspective.
@HoomanR174 жыл бұрын
Jay great video. Broad question, which integrated or separate amp(s) did you prefer this "tube" DAC paired with? Solid State like Kinki or other tube integrated/separates?
@jbhiller4 жыл бұрын
I've owned this since fall 2019. It's an amazing DAC. It bested my Stereophile A rated DAC.
@dentistwo3 жыл бұрын
How’s your experience of headphone result directly from headphone output?
@beslemeto2 жыл бұрын
Sir do i need a Preamp with that DAC? I have Yamaha MX-1 power amp and i was wondering if i need a Preamp.I've got NAD 1155 preamp, but i anted to connect Doge 7 directly to the Power Amp, because i am afraid i will lose that tube magic coming from Doge 7 DAC.NAD 1155 is SS Preamp...Any opinions? Thanks!
@johnanderson80964 жыл бұрын
Excellent review... your really hitting your stride Jay!!! Keep up the great work... Merriest of Hollidays to you and your loved ones... PEACE...
@jmgoodmanuk4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a MP-D2 MK3, fully upgraded (DAC Module, Caps, USB Board, rectifier, etc) would be able to compete with the Doge?
@mzikmund14 жыл бұрын
Great review Jay, thanks for the early inside scoop on Patreon.
@shokrykhaledful4 жыл бұрын
I am so happy Doge Dac is finally well reviewed, well done Jay, I’ve had it in my main system for 8 months now. It’s a phenomenal Dac. replacing the Wyred4sound Dac2 DSD SE that was a very good Dac. I also have both the Doge 8 clarity, and the Doge 5 I recommended Doge brand to Thomas as a hidden gem after both of you sold me on the Buchardt S400 earlier this year. I’ll also send you a hidden gem soon. Keep up the great work
@ramsaybolton90994 жыл бұрын
I have the WFS dac that you have. I also have a Cary DMS 500. The difference is very clear at the bottom end through the very revealing legacy focus se speakers. The bass notes in the WFS bottoms out and the Cary just keeps going. You may not hear the difference unless your speakers have at least a 12 in driver.
@myshark674 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is the differenre between the w4s dac2 against the Doge 7? If u don mind,tq.
@shokrykhaledful4 жыл бұрын
@@myshark67 Hi, a little warmer, softer in the mids, more musical. The w4s is the dac2 SE edition. Also no loss of detail compared to w4s
@HiFiGOAudio4 жыл бұрын
Oh god I will be needing a separate table just for the DAC along with my system!! Excellent detailed video!! Keep up the good work :)
@ktalanguyen2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your review about this DAC, is so true. I owned this DAC and yes it is exactly to your described. If I have a chance, I would try out Mullard NOS to see how its sound compare to the original. To me the original tubes are very good. I love this DAC.
@tonamg533 жыл бұрын
You know you are a true audiophile when you have a favourite brand for capacitors.
@brianvenable53504 жыл бұрын
The top Doge is about the same price I paid for the Musical Paradise D2 MK3 Deluxe after ESS9038Pro, RCA tube, Mundorf cap, Femto clocks upgrades. I have A/B tested the MP against Holo Audio Spring with Kitsune upgrade, SMSL M400, Denafrips Ares, MHDT Orchid dac's...and the MP is my favorite.
@christianspoida54004 жыл бұрын
Hello, With what kind of tubes you have ordered the dac? In the Video i mean there is a Doge Logo (Standart tubes Shuguang ?) Or have you the version with upgrade psvane tubes testet Thanks..
@sean_heisler4 жыл бұрын
Nice Jay, thanks! These guys are clearly killing it. I can only imagine this DAC paired with the Doge 10 tube integrated Thomas reviewed. Wow. I think I see you are reviewing the Doge 8 tube preamp as well. Amazing!
@edwardgreen42044 жыл бұрын
Seriously , I'm totally confused watching this and the Denafrips Pontus review from 4 months ago. They both won DAC of the year? Unfortunately there is no way for the average consumer to audition these side-by-side. The only solid takeaway here, when using these videos as a buying decision between the two is that the Dodge is brighter.... Can we get more? If you had to choose only one which would it be? Would that answer be different depending on the speakers or amp/pre/intergrated being used?
@blade15354 жыл бұрын
Doge payroll!!!
@rktrkt-tw8nd4 жыл бұрын
These days all reviews are like " if you want this type of sound signature then this dac is good and if you want that type of sound signature then that dac is good " 😂 they rate all products between 8.7 to 9.2 . Ever wondered why these reviewers review only few unknown brands ?( No benchmark, no chord , no DCS ) because they get the review samples free from those brands 🤣.
@ufarkingicehole4 жыл бұрын
@@rktrkt-tw8nd that seems like a marketing mistake from more mainstream brands rather than fault of the reviewer
@rktrkt-tw8nd4 жыл бұрын
@@ufarkingicehole mainstream brands usually don't depend on such reviewers who's reviews are more of subjective kind like " if you want that then this and if you want this then that " .😂
@motobonsai4 жыл бұрын
what are best speakers and integrated amp to pair with this?
@philippest-hilaire40594 жыл бұрын
TIPS FOR THE REMOTE BUTTON : you can just open the remote and put electrical tape between the ball and the button inside the remote . I did that with my Jolida integrated amp remote which have the same remote ( I have tested the doge 10 and noticed the remote was the same ) no more looseness in the buttons
@GH-zs8eq4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, great video! I know you mentioned the pontus is warmer in the video. Would like to check how the sound stage and musicality compares between doge 7 and denafrips pontus. Thanks!
@AT-gu4sf4 жыл бұрын
Also shooting between these two. Appreciated for your advise Jay.
@christinearmington3 жыл бұрын
🤷♀️
@WoodstockG544 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder about these other high end companies. I like to say, if you’re rich, there’s a sucker born every day. Thank you Doge for being a true lover of this hobby who likes to share the hobby to the common masses.
@TontNZ4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, what gives? I thought you'd already awarded The Best DAC Award 2020 to the Denafrips Pontus R2R DAC??
@pascaljean23333 жыл бұрын
I came here to ask the same thing
@heinzbecker691 Жыл бұрын
How does this dac holds on to todays r2r dacs?
@mikegoppert41774 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine. Thanks for the useful review Jay. Also on the waiting list for the doge 10. Excited, we'll see.
@steady29004 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I think I would disagree with you about the tube shields on the Doge DAC being desirable. According to the folks at Herbie’s Audio, makers of some really effective tube dampers, tube shields hold the heat generated by the tubes and could lead to premature tube failure, a real concern for an expensive NOS upgrade. I own a Doge 8 preamp and removed the tube shields to address the excessive heat issue. My preamp sits on Stillpoints to absorb vibrations.
@Audiojunkabus4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, that was an excellent/detailed review. I am 100% starting to save up for this DAC and hopefully, it's a keeper! Hey, anyone remember Eclipse (car audio)? Eclipse made some of the best made (to date) hi-end 12-volt /car audio stereo equipment circa 2000- 2008. Fujitsu Ten was manufacturing electronic components for many others and then eventually established the "Eclipse" audio equipment brand. So many similarities with what you were explaining about Doge.... it brought me back to Eclipse immediately with fond memories :). thanks again for the review(s) Jay.
@user-od9iz9cv1w3 жыл бұрын
Very cool review. I like that you looked inside and talked about the design and why they do not skimp on parts quality. You touched on 3 of the 4 aspects of a DAC that drives performance. The missing ingredient is the quality of the clock signal. Hard to tell what they use. I'd guess I see an NDK SDA over by the XMOS chip which is likely on par with the 10k brands you mentioned. The Clarity caps are a reasonable brand. An ambitious tinkerer can likely extract an extra measure of performance by replacing them with any one of several brands. Obbligato Gold would be an upgrade and Duelund or Miflex would take it to another level.
@amitabh29674 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you detailed comparison with either a Denafrips Terminator or Venus
@Mr.Rude.4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Have you ever heard a Musical Paradise MP-D2?
@vonclod1234 жыл бұрын
Looks good, power supply is meh, caps are nice!. Have you ever reviewed a Musical Paradise MP-D2 or D3 DAC? You can swap coupling caps, DAC chip, tubes, rectifier..worth a look, especially if you like tinkering.
@williambon124 жыл бұрын
Doge has excellent products. I have the CD player, DAC and preamp, each of which are outstanding values and each perform at levels far above their price, and their build quality is excellent as well. There are very good new production tubes these days, but for fun I have rolled in some NOS Mullards and Brimars (NOT the reissues), and the sound is even better than stock.
@danieletorino84233 жыл бұрын
Finally received my Doge 7. It has been a bit of an adventure, but thanks Marc and Mrs Xiao for the transparent and tireless work
@dentistwo3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! How’s the experience with the headphone amp output?
@danieletorino84233 жыл бұрын
@@dentistwo unfortunately I do not use headphones at all, so really can't help you there. For the rest, I am very happy with it. The quality of constructions and material is top notch, and the sound (compared to my Cambridge 851N) has a very wide soundstage, lots of warmth and yet good details and a lot of body on the bass.
@thespotlightkid41384 жыл бұрын
Maybe because electronics was my 1'st childhood hobby & i'd been messing with all-hand-down old (even back then) hi-fi gear since 8 or 9 yrs-old for bedroom music, (i loved most of my hand-down old vinyl music back then also) did radio recording via 60's ferrographs, telefunkens & grundig reel-tape units, old valve amps, improv' radio -extracted speakers on morphing variations in baffles boards, big valve radio with 'mag-gram' (phone) inputs via an old thorens (still going i hear!) while often doing mods like direct soldered plug-less connections & other mad-stuff (i was a kid) Now, far, very far more than anything else when it comes to potential hi-fi upgrade options or aspirations of possible future upgrade gear as to me, the vids are for either one ...Far more than anything else - apart from a good thoughtful description of the sound quality - is what it looks like inside & with a knowledgeable (enough) technical low-down of the inners, the quality (& ratings of power supply) caps, & actually seeing the care taken in good power supplies & transformer size (esp' in amps) Many vids don't do this & i get wound--up when it's a really interesting product & you don't get to see the in/out sockets let alone under the hood. This achieves that (great product) Excellent vid & just the type i like & want to see. thinking about it now, you don't need a history like mine to want to know the internal matters, they do matter & surely must matter when it's a potential upgrade to anyone into well reproduced music & not just into change of gear to match the curtains & new carpet, Looks come last to me but a good looker is a fine bonus. (this Doge's a beauty too) Worldwide ✌️peace
@Slant884 жыл бұрын
You feel more than "value" when you almost grab yourself. Seriously, thanks for dropping the knowledge on the internals of the DAC. As always, thanks for the great review. Keep up the great work.
@thetruthh.88364 жыл бұрын
What about the line magnetic lm-32 dac (tube dac)?.
@andylockwood17354 жыл бұрын
I was curious about how this might compare to my chord qutest Dac. I like things on the brighter side of warm or neutral and that's what you said the doge is like. I enjoy my chord but always looking around at other gear. Lol I can admit I'm addicted to it. 😁
@garyherman66234 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review Jay and highlighting some of the questionable high-end audio practices. For context,the ClarityCap ESA Series cost around $8.00 US per cap so it’s a shame companies like LUA replaced them to save a few dollars.
@smarliechen40154 жыл бұрын
my question is, how do we know whether the everyday clients are also getting the same quality of the product as the reviewers? We heard it from time to time that some companies specifically offer the top notch products to the reviewers for reviewing, but use lower grade materials afterwards.
@ahDeeChai4 жыл бұрын
That’s also my concern
@timothycheung22834 жыл бұрын
Jay, thanks for a great review. Visited Doge's website and there are various tube options available for Doge 7. What would be your choice of tubes? I seemed to recall you mentioned stock tubes are good enough?
@dilbyjones4 жыл бұрын
Great review. The only thing I'm worrying about is the bass. Would love to hear it! Kudos
@benhahaj32263 жыл бұрын
Jay, I bought a Musical Paradise dac per Thomas's recommendations and I really like it. Would the Doge be a significant improvement? Thank you in advance.
@tomchan25593 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am looking at the Musical Paradise dac as well. How's the sound ?
@stephencosta68143 жыл бұрын
This one looks to be of much higher quality out in terms of build quality and sound quality
@audiorick8414 жыл бұрын
Oh my, when I finally thought I was set on a DAC and was getting a Burson composer, this Doge just appears. I am stuck again ... what to do 😳
@hakki19994 жыл бұрын
Just buy a basic dac. You won't hear any difference between them anyway.
@Audfile4 жыл бұрын
@@hakki1999 lol NOOB alert
@MrPkimura4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Also appreciate the advance word on the Doge 7 on Patreon.
@johnh539 Жыл бұрын
I am within a few weeks from buying the RME FS DAC because I figure that with infinite refinement characteristics your bound to find the perfect sound. As you describe the Doge 7 I think I should save a bit longer . I have the prima luna integrated 100 and the Focal arias .Given that I like the way you say the Doge 7 handles the higher frequencies do you think it would be a good match?
@yippie68624 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what DAC chip it's using? Not sure Jay mentioned it.
@shokrykhaledful4 жыл бұрын
Es9018, when I asked why prior to ordering one last May, they insisted it’s a more musical chip then both Es9028 & 9038. I understood we spoke the same language, order one, never regretted it
@keremzorlu7 күн бұрын
Great review as always. So which one is better this one or the Denafrips Pontus 15
@mathieua.79274 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, Thanks for this nice review. Would you think it will be a great match with the Heaven 11 Billie tube amp ? Or too much tubes...? Or need to upgrade the amp even further ?? Many thanks. Math.
@petekutheis3822 Жыл бұрын
Now the question is: with the 25% tariff the USA charges will a product suddenly costing 3.5K be as good as say one of the two lower Lampizator models (Baltic 4 or Amber 4)? Or maybe I should just leave well alone with my Mytek Brooklyn DAC+..... ?
@ThaBridge14 жыл бұрын
Just finished the whole review: found the answers to my questions. Thanks
@jelugo7711 ай бұрын
Hi Jay. I am debating between to pontus 2 and doge 7 for my next dac. Curious about your opinion regarding pairings. I have nx-otica speakers, Quick Silver 8417 (EL34 modded) mono block tube amps, Elekit tu-8500 preamp. All somewhat warm sounding gear (which the otica's need). Should i stick in the warmer sounding category with the pontus (or even spring), or is there any value in going the other way as I have very resolving speakers? My current dac is an arcam fmj d33.
@neverknowit112 жыл бұрын
Is there any tube microphonics? Clock stability is important to minimize Digital Jitter.
@peterwood26333 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great review and teardown it looks amazing inside. I tried a little Aune T1 tube DAC (USB) with an upgraded tube with my AS1100 and Dali Ikon 6 MK2s. The soundstage imaging is so much better than my arcam irDAC and everything flows with midrange to die for. This I bet only uses the tube as a final buffer stage but it's so nice. I think I will consider the Doge 7, with the Yamaha AS1100 already sounding analogue, with some upgraded speakers (cross shopping concept 500 or Evoke50) think I will have something very big, natural, rich and easy to listen to
@briancampbell7712 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay...can someone here please help me; I just purchased the new Vincent hybrid SV-737 integrated amplifier...if you look at a picture of the back, it has a digital optical and coaxial input...should just use the built in DAC or how would I Benefit from getting this external DAC ?
@DJdavefromlondon3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Love this unit. How do I connect my iphone, is there a Bluetooth input or do I need to buy a streamer with Bluetooth, if so, which one
@JH-dh9hx4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to hear how this compares to the MP-D2 MK3 which is another tube DAC that I think provides great value.
@TheCangle3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on how this compares to the Lampizator Amber 3? These are two tube dacs that interest me at the moment.
@billsistrunk60584 жыл бұрын
JAY, Thank you for another interesting review. I see what looks like a Denon PMA 110 in your stack. Any chance a review will be coming soon? Would love to have an SX11 but its Japan only and the A110 is apparently the best we can get from Denon in the US.
@travisb43974 жыл бұрын
I've used the Doge preamps for the last 12 years. I AB tested the preamp against a super expensive Boulder preamp and it smoked the Boulder... no competition. The soundstage was bigger, deeper, the music had a sense of heft and transparency. Speed and dynamics are top notch. I've purchased and sold the doge preamp 3 time; upgrading to well known high-end brands like Bel canto,MBL Naim etc. Only to realize the Doge smokes all of these brands within their mid level offerings and perhaps even higher. Treat it like you would a very expensive unit with a good power cord and cables, then go into denial and disbelief. Best kept secret in audio
@LuxAudio3894 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on how this compares to the Music Paradise MP D1 Mk 3?
@mikerdaniels110 ай бұрын
Hello Jay. Please tell me how the Doge 8 preamp compares to Holo Serine?
@Audfile4 жыл бұрын
Will this work with Kinki amps? I heard they don't like tube pre because of DC offset or something like that
@brucebianchi74974 жыл бұрын
Did anyone get this answer?
@Audfile4 жыл бұрын
@@brucebianchi7497 not yet. I hope it will work because right now I want that amp and this dac and preamp, maybe in the spring.
@brucebianchi74974 жыл бұрын
@@Audfile I currently have the Cambridge Cxv V2 coax out into Sondcoz SGD1 into the Wilsenton R8 to maxed out Tekton Lore. I like the system and apparently share Jay's taste. Would love even more clarity. I may just be a nerd.
@anjovandijk97974 жыл бұрын
@@brucebianchi7497 yes I did I asked that question and they told me that the dc ofsett is meaningless at 0,15mv
@TombstoneTube4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent, complete review.
@OSQQ1234 жыл бұрын
Hello Jay, would it be a good idea to use this DAC with a tube amp? I already have a Denafrips Ares II with a line magnetic tube amp. I was wondering if the result would be the same since I am using tubes in the amp anyway
@davemclellan42214 жыл бұрын
The result is not the same.
@markderks93992 жыл бұрын
Finally received mine and would have to agree with you, amazing sound. Playing with my CSS audio 1tdx Critons. Thanks
@garykarczewski66782 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay love your channel. I have following since you broke out on your own. Being I can not demo Chinese Dac I have been on the fence with a Denafrips Ponuts II, the RME ADI 2, and now this Doge DAC. I think you have demoed all of them. A new DAC will be used with a Arcam AVR 850 in direct mode which bypasses the internal DAC and the DSP which will pull digital data from my Oppo 203 and Amazon HD streaming. My mains are a pair of Ohm Walsh 3000 which is paired with dual subs, and other effect channels being 7.1. Any suggestions which would be a great fit for my system.
@firvaldur3 жыл бұрын
Just placed a order. Now just the painful waiting is ahead ;)
@Klyystron3 жыл бұрын
How does this compare with Denafrips Terminator ?
@thetruthh.88364 жыл бұрын
I want a dac sounding more warm as i have klispch speakers ,(that I really love) and want something that helps to mitigate just a little bit the high frequencies and maybe push a little bit the medium frequencies ( without sacrifice the bass frequencies of course). Is this DAC a good choice? Or the Pontus?other? I was thinking to buy the lampizator Amber 3 but it is more expensive of course. Any suggestions? I can't test those Dacs before pulling the trigger unfortunately.
@hxhky4 жыл бұрын
How long (number of hours) do the stock tubes last roughly? Can I get them from Doge, and how much? Thanks for the review.
@Jayiyagi4 жыл бұрын
They are supposed to last 10,000 + hours. So 4-5 years. You can get the full set of 8 from Doge for about $200 I believe
@Cujobob4 жыл бұрын
You can get cheaper tubes, btw, if you’re worried. There are good modern alternatives that sound really good. It totally depends on how long you use your system as far as how long they’ll last. Not everyone spends 4+ hours a day listening to music on their stereo.
@mikerdaniels1 Жыл бұрын
How do you compare the Doge dac to Holo spring?
@Audfile4 жыл бұрын
I've watched this 4 times already. Damn, I really wanted an XSP1 from Emotiva but this is likely to blow that away.
@anthonyalexander63122 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay.This DAC looks interesting but how would you compare it to a New Prime Evolution.ím looking to switch up sometime.but would like a little different sound sometimes
@rca6576 Жыл бұрын
This review is a few years old now. I'd be interested as to how you feel about this DAC now? I ask because a tube dac is not that common, especially not at a reasonable price.
@tommaslar70514 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I am wondering if you know how they implemented the I/V conversion in this DAC? Also wondering if you are planning a review of the Tekton Perfect SET speakers that I saw you had in your room in an earlier video?
@music200004 жыл бұрын
What brand of tube used on your review? Is it the default tubes shipped or the upgraded psvane tubes.
@nattaphonneamgasipong49573 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I used Hegel H95 drive BW 705S2. What do you think between Pontus and D7 is best matching to my system. You review Pontus sound warm and D7 sound open. Both great DAC but can should one.
@marckremers10 ай бұрын
Bought this via your review almost two years back and it’s wonderful. I wonder where this system sits within your top 10, if it’s in that range still 2 years later?
@Jayiyagi10 ай бұрын
Still one of the top
@torarnekvaly77532 ай бұрын
@@Jayiyagi Do you still keep your Doge 7 Tube dac? I totally love mine after 2-3 years.
@jonfoss34373 жыл бұрын
Can you put a dac between a pre amp. And power amp? That way whatever the input, it goes through the dac
@baronofgreymatter143 жыл бұрын
im looking at the Doge 10 Mk3 tube amp...would you use the Doge 7 dac with it? or is it too much tube?
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph21204 жыл бұрын
Nice review Jay ! Its nice to see all these high end electronic componetes! Built inside a dac under 2k thats just about insane , those clarity caps got bling ! 😃 Thanks
@Vincent-of7yv3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, the problem with the Lua company was heavily discussed in forums in Germany because customers see it as a fraud. Can you please answer a question for me. I have no experience with tubes. How long do they last? And how do tubes react if I just want to listen to music for half an hour? Thank you very much and again a very good video
@nevermification4 жыл бұрын
Jay, which other components did you use with this dac?
@braedench2 жыл бұрын
What are the tower speakers directly behind jay?
@gryphongryph4 жыл бұрын
How would this compare with the Musical Paradise D2 MK3 Deluxe ?
@davemclellan42214 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear this from someone who has heard both. Having the MP D2 I absolutely love it. You do get different input options. The MP has tube rectification and you can see the tubes but that does make it huge. The MP can easily be tuned to the sound you like as the DAC chip, tubes, and caps are all plug and play swappable. The tubes will be cheaper in MP for sure. Upgrading to better clarity caps runs about $150 to 185 in the MP depending on the rating you want. The comment about the volume/preamp applies to both units. I can’t imagine you’d regret picking either.
@hakki19994 жыл бұрын
Will sound same. You wont hear any difference between them. If than mayyybe a minor one.
@gryphongryph4 жыл бұрын
@@hakki1999 that is a robust statement if not heard both 😜
@hakki19994 жыл бұрын
@@gryphongryph you never will able to hear them all. So just stuck to what you have and enjoy. People do not enjoye music anymore it seems. I testet 5 DAC by my own at my system and i for myself can say. All HocusPokus. Differences between cheap E30 and 5K DACs are not really there. So don't bother with this 0.09% better performance your are looking maybe to get with a expensive DAC. In proper blind teste , even at your home and with your set-up you would not be able to tell which DAC is playing. Never ever. I have good gear at home. Differences between DAC are really not even worth talking about.
@jonathanmatthew56314 жыл бұрын
@@hakki1999 then i wonder why you even watched this video or read the comments here if you already believe what you said? LOL
@douglasfurlong12 жыл бұрын
Would the doge 7 be as good as the doge 8 with the nos Brimer tubes? The reason why I ask is i like the display on the doge 7 and the doge 8 should have kept that display..dumb engineers love to change things..I also do not get why they put those bricks on the 4 corners --looks not so great..anyhow looking forward to hearing your opinion.
@MrJimluh3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, How to correctly connect this Doge DAC to Amplifier
@chiropks4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, from 2 of your reviews, I bought 2 units. This unit and Willsenton R8
@ComplexityBenz3 жыл бұрын
How do you like this Doge with Willsenton? I have Willsenton too. Now thinking of whether to go with this DAC or not.
@superconductorchip4 жыл бұрын
I've been an engineer for over 40 years, modern day FET's out proform old hot Valves/TUBES get your spectrum analyzer out and have a look at the FFT. Remember it's all in the BIAS of the Transistor...
@MusicLover-014 жыл бұрын
Maybe so in terms of measurements but do they sound better?
@superconductorchip4 жыл бұрын
@@MusicLover-01 The answer to your question is a BIG FAT NO. I still love the sound of Valves and the smell of an old Valve brings back so many memories.. It's great to see Amplifiers made the old way. Great Video..