Anime Explained: Angel Beats Plot Hole Explained!

[@Orionite]

Otonashi died without regrets. So he didn't go to this afterlife world. Kanade's wish was to thank Otonashi for giving her his heart. Because There was no way she could thank him , he was transfered into afterlife. At least that's what I think :l

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

That was the idea I worked with, but I also believe the Programmer may be involved with *Clannad*'s Illusionary World.

[@LongNguyen-pv9sm]

darn, that's actually explain it rather well

[@thewwmm25]

OrioN LTU I think this is the answer, he had to go to the purgatory because it was the only way for Kanade to fullfill her wish.

[@mr.j6295]

But if he was there merely to fullfil Kanade's wish he should have disappeared with her when she passed on. This means that he was probably regretting about something else.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Mr. J Not necessarily: he made a choice to stay, remember? He was telling Kanade about it which is what lead to telling her he loved her, which is what lead to her making her own confession.

[@TheLadyGrey]

Here is my theory: The reason Kanade was there before him was because he died with no regrets but she did. Her only regret was that she never got to thank him for the kind thing he did. His heart prolonged her life but no for long. So she died anyway and was in the afterlife because of her regret. Her being in the afterlife means that there would have to be someway for her to thank him right? So in light of that Otonashi was not reincarnated but sent to the afterlife so Kanade would be able to thank him. When Kanade finally thanked him and disappeared after he declared his love for her Otonashi finally had a regret that kept in in the afterlife. However he soon realized that he would never meet her again if he never tried to move and so he did. ...That's when he saw Kanade again and chased after her after hearing her singing Crow Song...or I think it was Alchemy

[@rushi7558]

Riko Harada It was My Song

[@TheLadyGrey]

thank you!

[@TheLadyGrey]

then...that's depressing...but in the ending song he stayed for a while and then just faded away with the others. It implies that he eventually did get over his regret

[@ramonpallares5351]

Oh...

[@mr.j6295]

Another reasonable explanation would be that because he donated his organs, he wasn't sent to purgatory immediately because he wasn't entirely dead. Once his last organ receiver had died, he was sent into the afterlife to solve Kanade's wish.

[@darkimpulse2829]

In the last episode Yuri was told that "there were some people who wanted to help others that didn't pass on and arrived in this world with amnesia"

[@miryochii]

Dark Impulse that made me think he was referring to Otonashi

[@abysstruthpoet]

Same i got out of it that otonashi was originally the one who created the npcs. They explained a npc can go back to having a soul if there drives strong enough. Otonashi before death wanted to help people have a purpose all of the battlefront vs angel stuff gave him a purposes again so he got his soul back. I felt episode 12 foreshadowed that otonashi was actually there before everyone

[@marcusgalindo4606]

Otonashi himself didn't understand why he ended up there because he died on good terms with his life, however Kanade says what kept her from being able to move on was the fact that she was never able to say thank you to her heart donor. Otonashi was probably brought from the afterlife to purgatory because that's the only way Kanade could move on.

[@jaylynpayne1]

agreed

[@yattsu8660]

Damn that makes sense. But if Otonashi didn't have any regret before he died, and something brought him to the purgatory then how is he supposed to move on? Because he shouldn't be there in the first place.

[@jaylynpayne1]

Vlad Toma hes suppose to move on after kanade moves on.

[@yattsu8660]

Mee Young Yea I mean it's possible but the world had rules. One can end there only if he regret something in his life. Check my other comment and tell me what do you think.

[@driz3lla]

I always kinda saw him as the angel who was sent from the afterlife into purgatory in order to help everyone move on and stuff. Like, everyone assumed Kanade was the angel but in reality it was Otonashi, and after he arrived everyone found peace with their lives and were able to move on. (So, just what you said but instead of being sent just for Kanade he was their for eveyone)

[@HalcyonSerenade]

I think the whole thing is easier explained with the Japanese traditional myth that memories reside in the heart. That's why Otonashi listening to his own heart beat in Kanade's chest and regaining his memories was such convincing proof to Kanade that he was her donor, as well as convincing proof to Otonashi that Kanade's theory is correct. To us Westerners, that sounds like a bit of romantic mysticism, but it has its roots in actual Japanese culture, which we're unaware of. It's like Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean: he cut out his heart so he wouldn't feel the pains of love, based on the well-known Western myth that love comes from the heart. We accept it because that idea, while false, is part of our culture. To an outside culture that doesn't have the same long-time myth, it would require some explanation, just like this "memories are in the heart" myth has to be explained to us. Otonashi likely lost his memories because his heart was transplanted, following the cultural myth. His spirit was likely stuck in limbo because of this amnesia, and eventually wound up in the High School Afterlife since, without memories of his life, he couldn't be fulfilled. You might say "but he died before his heart was removed, so shouldn't his spirit have already moved on?" but at that point, you're getting into "don't think about it that much" territory on a topic we're already probably thinking too much on. As far as the uniform weirdness goes, that's merely the standard school uniform, and it's shown in the prequel manga (and mentioned in the light novel) that everyone that shows up there defaults to that uniform. Getting a Battlefront uniform made is standard business for new recruits. I don't think the manga has even reached the point where they make the new uniforms. So I think claiming that Otonashi was an NPC just before the start of the story is a bit of a stretch. Not to mention that he shows no programming skills or any interest in programming whatsoever. Kind of hard to believe that he would have developed such skills then suddenly lost them or any traces of them later, even after regaining his memories. Or memories of the school before he was an NPC, which Takamatsu had to have regained to pass on. I think that the mentioning of the "original programmer" is just to state that such a tragedy happened to someone because of love, which foreshadows Otonashi's fate. His name isn't mentioned because it's unimportant, and giving him a name might have unintentionally given him more importance. I don't think it's an important secret--it's merely Conservation of Detail. All in all, there's no big secret or hidden plot twist. It's just that there's a Japanese cultural myth that we're out of the loop on, and the believability of the plot happens to hinge on it.

[@minicello231]

this is the best thing i've read

[@kdramaticity3874]

Wow

[@211pirate6]

I thought this too, how could an aspiring doctor do all this programming? Keep in mind the manual for all program is also in this world, and Kanade did the same, although her past is unclear, she might’ve been a programmer or something

[@gregoryhines869]

That still doesn’t explain why she ended up in purgatory before he did. For seemingly, a pretty long time. Long enough for her to learn about creating programming in that world, and with enough time for her to have done it before Yuri ended up there, because she assumed that she was an angel with a relationship to god based on her “powers” Also, I don’t think someone would have to know programming skills before being in purgatory to utilize it at all. There’s no evidence that Angel was a programmer in her past life, and because of how young she was, it’s unlikely that that’s the case, so perhaps you can still learn the skill after ending up in purgatory. Overall, there are a couple of plot holes in the show, like why did every Person who ended up be-friending Angel get obliterated? Who was the original programmer? Like, the one who created that world in the first place. If reincarnation is the afterlife for this world, then why is there a need for a purgatory in the first place? Etc. with all that being said, this show was great despite its flaws. I think it makes more sense for Otonashi being the original programmer, and becoming an NPC, and reawakening because he got close to his heart, but not close enough to regain his memories right off the batt. But, I don’t believe that Angel was his original lover. I think when he got there, he fell in love, lost his love, became an NPC, then starting regaining his memories after he got close enough to Angel. As to why he went to purgatory in the first place? I think he ended up there the first time he died, because he still had regrets about not being able to become a doctor, and seeing a man die in front of him would definitely have him regretting a lot the first time. That’s what landed him there at first. But when he regained his memories after coming close enough to his heart, he had an opportunity to see his death in a new light.

[@maxkchiu]

@@gregoryhines869 I think everyone who befriended Angel got obliterated because they had a happy school life with Angel so they fulfilled their regrets. Otonashi stayed after feeling fulfilled because he still had a need to stay with Angel so he wasn't completely fulfilled. Above was stated that the original programmer's true identity is irrelevant and in the anime, it's stated that he's become an NPC to deal with the madness of waiting so long. The purgatory, I assume, is to give their lives a second chance so the life still has meaning to it. And for him to fall in love with Angel after having fallen in love with someone else would involve him as an NPC falling in love before turning back and then suddenly having strong enough feelings to escape the NPC and become a person again. And if we're going with the idea that he regained his memories after coming close to his heart, then he would've changed back a lot earlier than when he did as he would've gotten close to kanade (being the school PRESIDENT) earlier.

[@rainbowphoenix1363]

not even a gun to my head could blow my mind as much as this video did

[@rainbowphoenix1363]

yup yup! thanks for noticing man

[@pauluspaul127]

Nice profile picture

[@piccolo56000]

+Rainbow Phoenix HAHA! thats nice.

[@211pirate6]

This comment is so real lmfao

[@shock226]

I only knew these characters for 13 episodes yet it was the most depressing ending I’ve ever seen.

[@ftheweebs6799]

It sad but also happy at the same time, since everyone finally got peacefully rest from a long useless battle in purgatory

[@volverzernachoman6548]

good theory but there is one problem. The Artificial intelligence told yuri that "there is no point in telling you, you wouldnt know him."

[@SoarinUpHigh]

Otonashi can't be the original programmer...Doesn't everyone wake up in that npc uniform after death? I mean the only time people had different clothes was because they joined the SSS.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Just because others wake up in the model student uniform doesn't mean the programmer couldn't too. That said, I like to think the programmer is Okazaki Tomoya, and that the world of *Angel Beats!* is the Illusionary World from *Clannad*-but that'll probably get Jossed by the game when it ends.

[@etho8864]

I think Otonashi is the programmer because when she destroyed the system the programmer didn't come back but the other guy who was turned into an npc did.

[@CobaltLancer]

@SoarinUpHigh Yes. The manga revealed that the NPC uniform is the default clothing newcomers wear. It also opened up in the exact same way as the anime except it was Hinata waking up.

[@danabell122]

Oh I thought when Kanade said that his heart was inside hers I though it meant some weird metaphor 😂

[@luketockarshewsky9795]

dana same here lmao (4 years later)

[@danabell122]

@@luketockarshewsky9795 the anime still slaps four years later

[@giddynun]

silly billy

[@thecubinggamer739]

🤣

[@daze729]

lol I understood it instantly

[@sirisaac8727]

I think the Angel Beats writers are laughing and just taking this theory as it was intentionally made like that

[@Sammy-hl9wb]

Why tf is this plot so confusing

[@WingMaster562]

Jun Maeda, go figure.

[@Malick-ix9io]

Because the series was cut to 13 episodes.

[@iz1389]

its really not confusing though you just need to pay attention

[@Elite7555]

To appear deeper than it really is.

[@giddynun]

if really pay attention when watching the show it’s not that confusing

[@coleton178]

Here's a theory, Otanashi died with no regrets so he had no reason of going to the afterlife. Thanks to Kanade he showed up so she could think him for the heart. Without regret he doesn't have a reason to leave + you never actually see Otanashi being reincarnated. So basically Otanashi is stuck in the afterlife waiting for the return of his loved one Kanade.... (Another fact to prove Otanashi could be the programmer is that the program only works on Kanade the one he loved.)

[@coleton178]

Also, where the other ending takes place.

[@saranguyen2788]

I know is comment is old but you just blew my mind 😱

[@RazorRyan100]

He couldn't remember who he was without his heart. Like you said, hearing his heart again gave him his memories back. That is all there is to it.

[@FANNIX-]

So if otonashi fell in love two times if he was the original programmer. The exact same thing why he made himself a NPC happened again.

[@StockTo32]

Fannix - Loopstation Pianist If he is the programmer, then the Angel Player system wouldn't have existed the first time 'round. The presence of the Angel Player might've caused a different outcome.

[@boredcosplays5381]

@@StockTo32 but time is supposed to be different in this afterlife, maybe in a way this is the story of how otonashi became an NPC,

[@redhedgehogx4076]

Finally someone that thinks the same way. If Otonashi is the programmer. He fell in love twice? The black uniform doesn’t mean he was an npc, that uniform is just a DEFAULT of coming to the afterlife. The battlefront uniform was customized made. Black uniform does not equal NPC.

[@lime1368]

At the very end of the last episode theres a small clip suggesting that they reincarnated and meet each other in another life because in that clip there hair looks similar Edit: after looking at the scene again I noticed that angel reincarnation was humming a tune that was pointed out in the same episode.

[@shock226]

So are you saying that everyone was pretty given a second chance or just them 2 (I’ll spell their names wrong but I’m referring to otanashi and kanade)

[@vooyz]

1:24 the reason he lost his memories is because in Japan there’s something like a belief that memories are stored in the heart, so giving his heart away to Kanade made him lose his memories. This is when when Otanashi is sleeping on her chest, he regains back some of his memories.

[@ChieMiyagawa]

I have an excellent addition to your theory answering who the girl was that disappeared. When heart surgery is involved a patient is essentially dead as the heart is stopped to allow surgeons to operate. To keep other organs from shutting down, their blood is pumped through a bypass machine instead of the heart. Since time is different in the purgatory system kanade and otanashi could have had enough time to develop a strong relationship before she was revived after the surgery though she may have had no memory of this happening.

[@ChieMiyagawa]

Joshua Liu I never said that she would have, just that she may have.

[@ChieMiyagawa]

Joshua Liu I never thought that far, why must I think of every possible thing? If you really want it figured out, come up with your own theory.

[@MobaNestRanked]

+ChieMiyagawa If he doesn't have a heart how it is shown in the end how he is walking

[@ChieMiyagawa]

Hollow DeviL lolwut? if you're asking how it's possible that he doesn't have a heart, it was explained in the show that she has his heart.

[@jaylynpayne1]

+Joshua Liu 💀💀💀💀

[@maggieclark2556]

Thanks for the video, interesting theory! However, while I like the uniform theory as well, it is stated that the purpose of the world is to live out one's youth in a world revolving around youth- a.k.a, the high school. So they're meant to be students at the high school, and therefore, it's likely that every new person arriving in the world awoke in the school uniform. Remember, the Battlefront made their own uniforms?

[@azuranhirumi]

Just done watching Angel Beats. For me it's the best anime because it is the first anime i watch that have alternate ending. Original ending is a very happy ending. Otonashi and kanade meet again in the next life. The alternate ending kinda depressing. Otonashi stuck in that world while others already being obliterated which means left him alone to wait that "one" person. That "one" person is kanade. For me, otonashi is the real "angel (tenshi)" of that world. I wish there will be more season continuing the alternate ending 😭😭

[@xandersonepic]

The manga for the sequal is not even done yet. Season 2 is a dream :'(

[@thenoicemango1827]

Azlan Hilmi Where did you find the alternate ending?

[@NayaChann]

TheMoistMango : I can’t find the link but it’s here on KZbin, a small clip. But it’s not an alternate ending, it’s an Epilogue that takes place between Kanade’s reincarnation and before Otonashi’s reincarnation

[@ftheweebs6799]

@@NayaChann if you mean the 2 minutes OVA, yes it's an Alternate Epilogue Ending, tho we didn't know exactly which one are the canon one

[@noodlezhp]

All I want to think is that they all met each other once again

[@amanniyas3110]

ok Here's Mine (Disclaimer, it has fan fic but in my opinion, the most fitting story) Otonashi died. and he was in purgatory because he died before the other victims were saved so he never knew that they survived. So his main regret that he had failed those people. And in regret that he cant help people in life, that he helps people in death and make this place for conflicted souls t pass on. ok heres the fanfic bit. kanade had a heart issue. and it had just flat-lined. so in essence she was dead, albeit for a short amount of time. and naturally she'd be in conflict(shes young so its obvious that she had regrets). And since Odanashi is The Programmer would have build the place that the anime takes place in, Kanade's Soul goes there. and there she meets Otonashi. And they fall in love. and since in purgatory time probs works differently to here, we can assume that only a short amount of time has passed irl. The doctors find a heart. Otanashis. and thus perform the transplant successfully. Kanade comes back to life. This is why the girl the programmer fell in love with goes away and why he waited. If she found peace, she would have moved on. No. She got her old life back. and Otanashi promised to wait for her. And again since time probs works differently, he goes mad and turns himself into an NPC. As to why he comes back, I personally have no clue. the best one is the explanation in this vid. and when he first met her, he didnt think that she was harmful because remnants from his past afterlife thing remained. As to why the final credits scene shows a reincarnated vesion of the two is probs because, he simply has no regrets, whether he likes it or not. In the end, him donating his organs saved kanade so his life wasnt a waste. and even in the purgatory place he helped his friends come to peace. his life even in death was valued. And, if he had any, his only regret is probably that he couldnt spend enough time with Kanade, which would insentivise him to move on (probs). So he inadvertanatly passed on. And giving by the fact that Kanade was singing a tune she heard at purgatory, we can assume a small amount of info gets passed on, which explains why Otanashi went after her in that scene. this is my lil theory. Hope Yall liked it

[@yousifxg4mer318]

Aman Niyas thank you that was a really good explanation, And I think Odanashi turned from an npc to a soul because he had enough feelings when he saw kanade as they mensioned in the anime when an npc has high feelings he retains his soul

[@FANNIX-]

My personal adding to this theorie: The quote I mentioned before which includes what the shadow programmer told Yuri about the original programmer also fits very well to the the situation of Otonashi which is shown in the OVA called "Another epilogue". "he is waiting for someone". Connecting this OVA with the rest of this theorie brings me to the conclusion that the OVA could be an epiolouge but also a prequel. Think about that. Have a nice day (^-^)/

[@anonymousdee8849]

I was thinking that it could be a prequel too, I mean it does follow up with what the guy Yuri was talking to said

[@galaxycraftings]

OH MY GOSH THAT MAKES SENSE SENCE IN ONE OF THE OVAS HE WAS STUDENT COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THEY SAID HES WAITING FOR SOMEONE

[@lilredbaexp433]

WHICH OVA?!!! I NEED IT NOW

[@galaxycraftings]

The ova is really short

[@bog-he3hu]

Thalia Grace the ova "Knocking On Heavens"

[@aLfOnSiAn]

Yes! This also something that I thought. That OVA was kind of a prequel not a short sequel or alternate ending for AngelBeats!!! Gossh! I wish that they would explain it to us.

[@galaxycraftings]

What's a prequel? I never got that isn't it the same thing as a sequel?

[@Alexis-vm8ng]

I've watched this series 3 times and loved it. I never once questioned the plot holes, but I love this theory

[@CaptainSaumon]

Actually, Otonashi lost his memories because there is a Japanese myth saying that the memories and soul are in someone's heart and that is why he regained his memories after sleeping on Kanade's chest and feeling his own heartbeat

[@yooclan]

I think since Otonashi didnt have any regrets when he died, he didnt go to purgatory. Instead he went to "heaven". He then got his mind erased so he wouldnt remember all the bad things that have happened in his life. After a while, he was sent to purgatory to allow Kanade to get obliterated because her regret was not being able to say thank you to Otonashi. The main goal of purgatory is for everyone to get obliterated so they can rest peacefully and happy. But since Kanade's regret was not being able to thank Otonashi she was stuck there forever. This is why "God" placed Otonashi in purgatory, to let Kanade get obliterated. Well that is my theory!

[@antiawarenessawarenessclub]

Otonashi wouldn't have been transported there JUST so Kanade could thank him, like some people are saying. Hinata was able to move on without catching a ball, and Yui didn't hit a home run, so it shows that the EXACT regret doesn't have to be fulfilled for someone to move on. If Otonashi hadn't been there, Kanade would've eventually come to accept that some things in life you just never will be able to do (or stayed there, whatever) Here's a theory: what if Otonashi wasn't considered 'dead' until ALL his organs died. That's why he arrived late

[@kashifhussainkashifhussain7016]

Man, you really needto work a bit on your accent! I had a little hard time grasping what you said, but anyway I do agree with your theory. I also read about another theory which seemed quite convincing to me -> Otonashi dies. -> Otonashi moves on, since he died without any regrets. He doesn't end up in the afterlife school thing. -> Kanade dies and ends in the afterlife school thing. -> Kanade wishes to thank Otonashi. -> Kanade's wish "grabs" Otonashi from his peaceful slumber and throws him into the afterlife thing. -> I suspect that this place is designed specifically so people can find happiness, and since Kanade's requisite was to thank Otonashi, the place took him back temporarily. -> Otonashi, upon arrival, loses his memory since he was taken to this world in a not-conventional manner. -> Events in the anime occur. The reason Otonashi didn't end up in the afterlife school upon death, is because he didn't really die with regrets. His own theory was that he simply "forgot" and thus ended up in the school, but that doesn't make much sense. Instead, he moved on, rested peacefully for a while, and then Kanade's wish brought him to the school.

[@wuaho53]

THANK YOU! The theory that you have written is what I think it might happened.

[@NextLevelNoobs]

Haha il try work on the accent, I come from a place in england called Yorskshire, we are notorious for being hard to understand :P

[@surfangel8572]

Im with 100% on that but answer this please: Why did it take so long for Otonashi to get there?

[@afkable6241]

+Surfangel A really good question, but i believe that it took so long to get to the purgatory world so that the other members of the battlefront alliance would have had some time to join up and recruit members for the alliance... this is how it could've went: THE REAL WORLD -otonashi dies of thirst, and help couldn't make it in time -otonashi's organs get transplanted, and kanade received his heart -kanade lives on with otonashi's heart and then dies due to an unexplained reason NOW THE PURGATORY WORLD ( please note that purgatory world has a different timeline than the acutal world) -kanade spawns there and doesn't know why she is there -yuri and the guy with the blue hair spawn at close timings -other members spawn and get recruited to the alliance that was made be the previous 2 members (yuri and the other guy) -some time passes for the battlefront to strengthen there alliance between one another -kanade is seen as an enemy (by the battlefront) because she is student council president and it is her duty to protect the NPC students -kanade develops protective weapons to defend the school from the battlefront alliance -otonashi spawns, and the intro of the anime happens -when otonashi gets stabbed in the chest/heart by kanade, kanade realizes/remembers that he is the donor of her current heart, and that she came to this world because she didn't get to thank him for his heart and kindness -otonashi joins the alliance because he thought kanade's act was very cruel, therefore he considered she was an angel (NPC of sorts) -the plot goes on...until the finale where everything gets explained SOME MIGHT QUESTION, WHY WAS OTONASHI THE ONE THAT IS CHOSEN TO COME TO THAT WORLD? remember that otonashi always wanted people to say thank you, and notice that after everytime he helped (obliterated ) someone, they said thank you, which really made otonashi so happy ( he mentioned that in one of his flash backs when he was with his sister )

[@surfangel8572]

ali bassam Isnt it a little cruel to wait until everyone is shooting each other to bring in the guy that would help them all?

[@piccolo56000]

i have watched this a long time ago , THIS SHOW was such a great ride , it was filled with action and comedy and had some of the most emotional moments in anime i dont cry ...but i feel the heavy feelings i get from this show .

[@pegachey7728]

...Did you not pay attention? At the very end of Angel beats, Angel says that she had only one regret in life and that was to thank the person who donated her heart. She said that her feelings must have brought him there. His amnesia must have been a cause of him being dead for quite a while or something along those lines.

[@taskeenmather216]

Although I totally agree with the theory that Otonashi was the original programmer, I feel I can add to the missing pieces. Otonashi created the programme in an already existing afterlife world, we know this since Shiina was from the feudal times which was ages ago. He only created the programme so that people would graduate to peace or heaven once they no longer have any regrets. Switching backward, he was there from the time he lost his life in the train accident and fell in love with Kanade who arrived probably after sometime of utilizing his heart. She graduated in spite of her regrets and moved on without Otonashi. That broke him so he therefore created the programme. Once he awoke from his NPC state, he fell in love with Kanade again, note, he only regained his memories of his life on earth, I don't think the memories from the afterlife land can be regained. Kanade then said she merely returned because she regretted not saying thank you and was the obliterated.

[@taskeenmather216]

This also accounts as to why Kanade knew about obliteration and she wanted to help the others be fore that programme took full force. I think it all tied in so well once Otonashi graduated and as the 2nd Lab programmed-programmer stated, in reincarnation it's not impossible you meet up again... Which is how Kanade and Otonashi met once again. She having remembered the song as well as him.

[@jaylynpayne1]

+Taskeen Mather you're to pretty to be into this stuff

[@WaifuStealer69VODsClips]

Huh, that was pretty interesting! Again, this is one of those shows I watched A LONG time ago. So it kind of makes me wanna go back and see what I can pull from the show now. Awesome video.

[@NextLevelNoobs]

Thanks! It's great to hear feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed this video!

[@WaifuStealer69VODsClips]

NextLevelNoobs No problem. I've been enjoying this series of videos you make. I look forward to seeing you decipher and point out other stuff in the future!

[@Wiziliz]

Zetsubou Matt I'm gonna rewatch the series too, in subbed this time though so I'll be able to watch the upcoming episode straight away :D

[@ninjaboykills]

Wiziliz Zetsumei upcoming episodes? Theres a sequel?

[@Wiziliz]

Jared Hell's Kitchen is the upcoming episode I'm referring to, it is the second OVA and is being released this year. Also, a VN is being made.

[@zsedrfvbhujm]

My theory is that time moves A LOT faster in the afterlife so in the real world the entire series took only a few minutes. So all of the characters died at roughly the same time that day. This would allow Kanade to be the first to die and first to arrive at the school. Then in the process of the series she got Otonashi's heart transplant which saved her life but her spirit didnt rejoin her body until she got the opportunity to thank him. Otonashi had amnesia because he came to the afterlife without his entire body. Emergency services got to the train right when Otonashi "died" but they could have kept him alive until he got to the hospital when the heart transplant could safely be performed.

[@SageYui]

I don't think Otonashi is the programmer. Wasn't the programmer made an NPC? But Otonashi is not an NPC. He just has amnesia. Maybe there is a connection related to his heart not being there and thus he doesn't have his memories. Also, if Otonashi was the programmer, wouldn't he have been there in the school for a long time? Then he would have been noticed by the special students there. Which means, he should be there before Yuri and the others came and he would have turned himself into an NPC soon after that. But Otonashi only came after a while.

[@keosu2090]

The Programmer's real name is unknown. But like Otonashi, he was never supposed to have entered the Afterlife, but somehow ended up there anyway. During his time in the Afterlife School, he fell in love with an unnamed girl who disappeared when her regret was fulfilled. Unwilling or unable to accept that, he decided to wait for her to return. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROGRAMMER,THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO OTONASHI AT THE END, he’s so broken that Angel left and will wait for her return but lose sanity for waiting too long that’s my theory. The show intentionally makes you so emotional at that moment that you don’t even realise it.

[@ric_l3]

Another Epilogue kinda loops it back towards the beginning. It was stated the girl he fell in love with an unnamed girl ( Kanade ) fulfilled her wish and was obliterated, so he stayed there waiting for her to return. So in Another Epilogue, he stays behind to help others ( shown by talking to the blonde rebeliois kid) meaning this epilogue was not in fact an alternate ending.

[@Crashandburn999]

I actually figured this out on my own. It seemed fairly obvious to me. They threw out some big hints that aren't even subtle, all it takes is to think back on what happened, and it comes together very quickly. The plot holes that I see are why the hell does Otanashi care so much about Kanade in the first place??? and how does Otanashi know how to program? and how does he even get the chance to create that world after dying anyway?

[@Flairgon]

Please do more of this. I really like these types of videos as it makes me think about the shows that I still love. Keep up with the good work, it's really interesting.

[@DjVinny23]

I've looked up this theory myself plenty of times as well! I originally also had the thought that Otonashi was the original programmer. That is until I read the prequel Angel Beats manga (bare in mind it was fan translated). In the Manga it shows which of the SSS members came first. Shina is from around the feudal Japan era, having obviously died way before any of the main characters but she only came after Ooyama and Chaa and somewhere around the same time as Noda. Another thing is that all of the SSS members do start off in the traditional NPC outfit, stated episode 1 as well! I love fan theories surrounding Angel Beats because it's one of my favorite animes! and I enjoyed the video! :D

[@skvll248]

When i had finshed the anime i thought about it all day it rly got to me

[@Wolfman4322]

It's nice seeing you continuing this series. It's really enjoyable.

[@Wonderscroll]

2:41 in the manga, it’s explained everyone wakes up with that uniform

[@LittleFighter2005]

yeah you sre right, Otonasi is the programer, but he programed a program that will restore him after Kanade is detected. The program didn't functioned has expected, it toock a long time to detect her and it faulty restored him.

[@skyesthelimit6792]

I re-watch this series every couple years. Nice to know others appreciate this type of creativity. Anyway, good analysis all. Enjoy.

[@CrystalRubyMoon]

This explains why Otonashi came _after_ Kanade! He was there all along, waiting for her.

[@NextLevelNoobs]

Yup

[@DirtfaceBass]

anyone got a matrix reloaded flashback from that scene with the guy in the room with the monitors?

[@AfroSamurai-]

Lol neo and I architect. I thought about that as well

[@aaronsebas2002]

I thought no one noticed that plot hole, I was searching for a while to see if anyone else had, great video man, angel beats no matter the plot hole made me cry

[@chrisvandergriff504]

I thought this was gonna be about all those kids down in underground gun factory. Guess I'll never know what happened to them.

[@abyssabbison6266]

one of the last things Otonashi did while he was alive was figure out that his life had meaning. Maybe that's why he programmed the afterlife school, to help others find the meaning in their life and pass on.

[@Ruyi_Moonlight]

When i started to think about that fact you mention in the beginning, i arrived to exactly the same theory you exposed here. And i want to add something: when Kanade was waiting for the heart to be donated, was she tecnically dead? If that's the case, then we could assume that it was at that time when they first met, so Kanade is the same person the programmer was waiting. Being alive once more erased her memories about the afterlife, but maybe she still had a bit of them, so she "knew" the programmer saved her life, and that's why she needed so much to say him "thanks". I just hope people won't tell i stole your theory, i just searched for this video because someone mentioned it in another one. It's funny how we tought exactly the same

[@hiimchrisj]

About Otonashi’s amnesia. He doesn’t need a head injury to explain it. 1) they’re dead they don’t have the lasting effects of any injuries they sustained when they were alive 2) they explain in the very first episode that a lot of people awaken with amnesia and eventually it all comes back to them. And Takamatsu didn’t have amnesia after turning into an npc he just became like all the others acting like a normal high school student. Otonashi on the other hand doesn’t understand anything about this world when he wakes up

[@LukeG331]

When the shadow program manager says "The original programmer is an NPC to this day" Otanashi exists as a human.

[@NextLevelNoobs]

Hey all! It's great to see your support for this series! I am aware some mistakes have been made in these theory videos and I have acknowledged them. But hey, that's why they are called theories! I know it's been a while and I'm very sorry, however I would really like to start bringing out new theories and explanations for the many, many animes out there. However to do so I would love some suggestions from you all! So if you have a particular anime, an inconsistency, theory or something you don't quite understand, just reply to this comment with your thoughts and I will be sure to read every single one of them! -Matt

[@aisyayahaya2320]

I just watch a Secret episode(Another Epiloge) which shows ottonashi wearing the NPC shirt and being the student council. i guess the episode will explain more and support your theory.

[@Azazel_Maximus]

+Anna Aisya Yahaya That was a trailer for the LN, where Otonashi is still in the afterlife and is doing the work he said he'd do at the end of the show, assisting others in passing on. (I can't say that's completely accurate, but I did look it up on the Angel beats wiki. Was there a blonde guy there, too?

[@aisyayahaya2320]

+nick thorn yup. thats the one .

[@Azazel_Maximus]

Wait, not LN. It's another anime, sorry. It got cancelled, though, I believe. It's an alternative ending where, instead of being reincarnated, he stays.

[@Kenzuki7]

+NextLevelNoobs wait so if they accept their fate they go to heaven?

[@bbtbfwb3962]

Does anyone remember the other epilog

[@moistyross]

Spoilers must read... guys, what do you think about CHRIST being the original programmer. First off I completely like this guys theory but how would otonashi know how to program? Where as Christ is a computer guy and would probably know how to program. Also when it showed him on the roof on his diary it says I have been on this world too long which can make reference to what the man told yuri at the end. It also shows no details about Christ moving on. Thoughts???

[@ninjaboykills]

Ross DeBoss But in the group photo he disappears like the others in the last episode

[@tysayong4551]

Jared your good at clues I know this is 4 years late

[@andrewv3661]

This is a brilliant theory. I guess you are right. This is something I have thought about, but I never thought that Otonashi might have been the original programmer. And I like one of the comments below: "When heart surgery is involved a patient is essentially dead as the heart is stopped to allow surgeons to operate" This would explain who the girl was the original programmer fell in love with.

[@CloudDinoGod]

is the past going to repeat itself. I mean they said the programmer turned himself into an NPC because he lost the one he loved. Ontinashi loses kanade in the end so now will he go insane and recreate the program?

[@albyszn]

I believe it wont, it stated he was waiting for her and was made an npc because he grew mad by waiting, not by losing her, now that she is here and he met her and no longer has any regrets he will be able to finally reincarnate

[@CloudDinoGod]

Jelly Ramirez no it was stated that someone he loved was obliterated and he went mad because he thought somehow she would come back

[@SquallLeonhartX2]

watch the very last scene after the credits and that might answer your question

[@CloudDinoGod]

Angel of Chaos yeh it did xD

[@jaylynpayne1]

+Angel of Chaos lmfao

[@goaway3803]

Angel Beats is so sad but so good! Why'd it have to end so fast! ^~^

[@adamsem680]

Whilst it sounds interesting Otonashi might be the programmer there are quite a few things which suggest he's not, the main one being near the end the NPC said "You wouldn't know even if I told you" when asked who programmed him, the simplest answer might be the programmer is the NPC found in the computer room, the guy confirmed the programmer turned himself into an NPC, therefore the NPC in the computer room might not have even known he was the programmer, he did say the programmer went mad alter all so might not even recognise his own name as an NPC.

[@thewest8630]

I personally like the theory about him not being "fully" dead until all his donors died. Especially with how important missing his heart was, I think it checks. Think about it. Angel dies soon after her heart transplant. The other organ receivers could've lived decades before dying. That would explain why Angel had been there long enough to be the oldest being and why Otonashi took so long to make it. The only other explanation is that time simply doesn't work the same. It doesn't make sense (to me) that he was brought back from peace to help angel because Otonashi wouldn't be Otonashi anymore. He'd have already moved on to his next life.

[@kasrahelali4815]

I think otanashi met angel earlier, she passed on, died again and had to come back to thank otanashi. Thats the only way it would make sense cause its weird to think that otanashi fell in love with a random girl that the anime barely mentions.

[@Fafix666]

Extremely overrated show with a decent ending though. It'd be an amazing anime if it lasted for 113 episodes, not just 13. A lot of things were unexplained, a lot of cool characters were left untouched. Good ending doesn't erase that.

[@Fafix666]

+Fafix666 Not to mention that story progression is dull and often makes no sense. One episode girls are singing, next episode they play baseball and then suddenly MC befriends their greatest foe, who was their enemy for no apparent reason. And what the heck was going on with Kanade and Yuri? First Yuri thinks she's an angel and has connection to God, then she says that Kanade isn't an angel and she knew that from the beginning. Then they become BFF? Teary ending doesn't justify this load of bullcrap.

[@abysstruthpoet]

I got out of it was that otonashi was originally the one who created the npcs. They explained a npc can go back to having a soul if there drives strong enough. Otonashi before death wanted to help people have a purpose all of the battlefront vs angel stuff gave him a purposes again so he got his soul back. I felt episode 12 foreshadowed that otonashi was actually there before everyone

[@cyberbully7718]

Nah I don't think so the NPC in the world of afterlife are just like your average farmer in a mmorpg game only there to fill in the empty space and give out a specific set responses if asked a question. It's the human who've been forcefully turned into an NPC can gain there soul back if thier drive is strong enough.

[@f1shb0i]

That plot hole has been scratching at the inside of my head since the beginning. Now My mind is swimming in an ocean of FUCK

[@experiencejapan.9023]

When Iwasawa-san was gone, I cried :P

[@jakealaniz3495]

The reason why Kanade was there before Otanashi was because he lost his memories. Since he lost his memories after death he wandered for along time then got into the world. Remember only those that died with regrets go to that place, but Otanashi did not have any regrets after he died.

[@SethBeastable]

But it isn't true. Yuri asks the program "Who programmed you?" And it responds, "You wouldn't know him even if I told you, he's from a long time ago."

[@CobaltLancer]

Otonashi wasn’t the original programmer. The manga reveals that everyone who enters the afterlife wears the NPC uniform. Hinata entered the world in the exact same way Otonashi did. Yuri also wore an NPC uniform. The Battlefront members eventually changed to their own uniforms. Also, if you pay closer attention to the anime, it also becomes clear. Takamatsu only lost his memories because he turned into an NPC and was condemned to think and act like an NPC. In Ep.13, Otonashi said he eventually broke out of his NPC state and regained all his memories. Yuri also became an NPC but she broke out and regained her memories. In Ep.12, Yuri also asked the AI who the original programmer was and he told her that she wouldn’t know, even if he told her. Well she knows who Otonashi is so he can’t be the programmer. He also said he’s still in hiding. Well Otonashi isn’t so that also further proves he isn’t the programmer. The original programmer is just someone we never saw. Otonashi going through identical things as the original programmer is just an example of history repeating itself. As for Kanade arriving before Otonashi, everyone has their same theory but here’s mine. The reason Kanade arrived before Otonashi is because she had regrets when she died which was being unable to thank her heart donor which is why she was immediately sent to the afterlife whereas Otonashi didn’t which means he was originally supposed to go wherever else like reincarnation or heaven or whatnot and he was basically floating through dimensions until Kanade arrived in the afterlife and he arrived sometime later. *_Think of it like this:_* You’re hanging out with a friend at a café or something. You then have a bank appointment or something like that and head off. Your friend stays for a little longer until they have the same thing as you. You’re headed for a new bank you’ve never been to whereas your friend is headed for the same one they’ve always been to. You’re stuck in traffic, have a hard time finding it and pretty much drive in a circle whereas your friend arrives safely. You eventually arrive at a bank but it’s the one your friend went to. How did your friend arrive before you even though you left earlier? You were getting lost without a proper destination whereas your friend had one.

[@garyperez8098]

what about the plot hole when Yuri(specifically says I am at peace) and various other characters like the group which says goodbye to Otonashi and people at the graduation how come they did not instantly disappear when they had no regrets yet kanade disappears instantly without saying goodbye.

[@Ksr3740]

wow i just finished the story for angel beats and i've gotta say that there were plot holes, but this vid covered it up. Thanks a lot man! also if you can i would like to fill in another plot hole, you know how in the 13th ep it shows reicarnated versions of otonashi and kanade? so did everyone else who disappeared also become reincarnated or was it just otonashi and kanade?

[@MrLukasboys]

Please tell me, whats the name of the intro song?

[@angel3sappin914]

Sooo basically Otanashi woke up from a coma and then it all ends. Wow, after a marathon of tear jerking watching the episodes. I'm taking the Red Pill.

[@Isohel27]

1 thing when they leave the afterlife do they go to heaven r do they get reborn cause at the end u see Kanade and otonashi and he taps her shoulder so I'm guessing every who left got reborn idk if u ha e any info comment plz

[@Isohel27]

And how did otonashi get out of the after life since he was there by himself

[@allmachtigervater8313]

Anything could happen to otonashi after the end of the series, even the story could repeat because after Kanade disappeared that would fit to the original programmers story or he just disappeared too and lived a new life we don't know

[@ignatiusradityo6774]

The progammer or otonashi is waiting for some girl to arrive.... a girl which otonashi's donor goes to... its obviously kanade because she said so at the end of angel beats. Otonashi didn't donor his heart for hatsune.... so its obvious it was kanade hes waiting for Edit: also if you watch carefully otonashi's uniform at the begining of angel beats its actually the NPC boys uniform. And if you already watch the angel beats alternative ending it happens before kanade even arrive at the world. If you pay attention on the angel beats alternative end... take a closer look at otonashi's uniform. ITS THE SAME UNIFORM JUST LIKE WHEN OTONASHI FIRST MET YURI OR THE NPC BOYS UNIFORM One more thing the boy which appear at the angel beats alternative end is actually iragashi or (whatever his name is) the person that helps otonashi after the train crash

[@SachinPatel6]

This is what I think, Otonashi never had any regrets in his life. In the end, he found meaning in his life by donating organs. Kanade was in the NPC world before otonashi, its because otonashi never actually came to NPC world directly from his death. If he did not have any regrets he will not go into NPC world immediately. He was there for one and one reason only, to help kanade. So basically system called for otonashi, long after his death to save kanade one more time. And knowing Otonashi's nature, how he is willing to help others all the time, Otonashi came in NPC world with amnesia to save Kanade. In the end , Otonashi dissappear.

[@gadreel6926]

otonashi is the progammer, has anyone seen angel beats epilogue? one of the girl said his name and then she said "they say he is waiting for someone"

[@Cieln0va]

I think otanashi isn't the programmer. I always thought since he died in a fulfilling life, but still died with the desire to help people, his soul wandered until it entered the program, the program didn't know how to deal with a soul like this, so it began the processes of making otanashi into an npc, but his desire to help people somehow messed with the program, shooting him down into the beginning of the show. But i could be wrong

[@IttsFade]

Youve just earned yourself a sub

[@DestinyOfZero]

i thought otonashi was waiting for kanade since the beginning because of the alternate epilogue hes dressed like an npc but hes waiting for someone but the other guy said he got bored of waiting and became an npc and if his emotions were strong enough he could revert so otonashi reverted because kanade was there but it took time for him to revert also that the alternate epilogue is actually the prologue

[@linakudou]

its 2018 and there's still the biggest hole in your theory if Otonashi is the programmer then how could Otonashi learn how to program if he took medical course in his pastlife >oh yes dude there's still programming books in afterlife and yes he programmed angel weapons and shadow bullshits with love detector just because he learned it on books

[@沈博智-x5y]

my theory about the bug in the system is that otonashi wasnt meant to be in the afterlife world as he didnt regret dying, so there was some bug that made otonashi transfer to this world. why the bug happened or what exactly is this bug... who knows... i do have to agree, there is a lot of vagueness and things that didnt really make sense which is why i rated it 7/10 and not higher

[@danymoon3553]

OMG Angel Beats! Another Epilogue fits right into this theory! Another Epilogue was before he turned himself into and NPC, and was still waiting! My life has been fulfilled!

[@jajajwerty4397]

How many episodes of this are there is there 13 or 14

[@claudiayudatama7168]

why kanade say thanks to otonashi?if she didnt,she not to disappears,right.i dont understand.someone help me???

[@adamwathen5962]

What about the beginning of that computer room 2 scene when the NPC tells yuri that she wouldn’t know who it was even if he told her? (In response to her question of who the programmer of angel player was)

[@cyberbully7718]

Maybe it's because all the NPC could've told her was a name and a name isn't enough to know someone or to find someone especially if he's existing nonchalantly among other NPC's.

[@adamwathen5962]

@@cyberbully7718 Ohh, so like she might have a name for said person, but their real name was much different?

[@cyberbully7718]

@@adamwathen5962 Could be the case or it may just be the fact that the programmer has already left the place and his name has also disappeared from the school roster and records.

[@adamwathen5962]

@@cyberbully7718 that explains it

[@baronradical4908]

when Otanashi cant remember how his life does Yuri not say "it happens to everyone" or a lot of the time or something similar and then "you'll remember eventually"

[@FreshBOI1579]

well done man! this is a bit more detailed view of my thoughts after finishing the show.

[@NextLevelNoobs]

Thanks very much!

[@25GDan]

I like your theory. I thought the reason he for the time difference was because he wasn't suppose to be there in the first place he died with no regrets and the reason he couldn't remember was because what ever brought him there needed him to help everyone else.

[@fireemblem2770]

Maybe Otonashi died but it took a long long time for him to wake up when we see him at the start of the series. And Kanade has been there for however long and she needed to Thank Otonashi, but obviously could not do so until he came to.

[@potatoes-us2xj]

these anime theory videos are actually pretty awesome id love to see more :) if you have any theories about anime like guilty crown or [c] id love to hear about them :)

[@awesomesongs7667]

hey nextlevelnoobs do you think the angel beats Epilogue what happen after the ending (only otonashi was left in the after life)

[@benchu5379]

At least if shows that they met again in the living world, It shows a tiny bit of that at the last ep after the credits

[@viviennergized]

This was my theory roughly around the time this came out.... Good Job on coming to the same conclusion, sir

[@telephant6203]

What a great intro you got there wow really cool

[@NextLevelNoobs]

much intro, much wow

[@oneeyedking3894]

Here's my theory Otonashi died because he donated his heart to kanade and he had no regrets for his death but kanade wants to say thanks to him so she brought into this world and otonashi also had to come to fulfill her regreat..that's wise she says he heard his heartbeat in her heart because otonashi is without heart and his heart is with kanade and she just came in this world to thank him for his donation..

[@hraza2222]

Nice explanation. But what was the world where Otonashi meets Kanade and chases after her at the end of ep 13? And when was the 13.5 when Otonashi is the student council president?

[@FlashpointLPT]

13.5 is the epilogue, isn't it? Well, first of all, after episode 13, if I remember right, kanade passes on in otonashis' hands. Otonashi gets real mad and is sad overall. Now it's up to you to decide; if you think, he passed on aswell, you'll get a happy ending where after he reincarnated , otonashi meets kanade, after she reincarnated aswell, and they finally meet in real life and probably be in love. But, if you think, he didn't passed on and now wants to help other people pass on in afterlife, you get the ending of the epilogue, episode 13.5 how you call it. In this ending otonashi stays in afterlife and helps people. I chose the happy ending, because I like this kind of endings and also the Anime is sort of romance then. So that's all I remember and please note that I saw Angel beats a looooong time ago. I wrote everything from my mobile phone, so please don't get mad if I have used wrong grammatic. Thanks for reading.

[@numnum3316]

one random question about the world of angel beats, will everyone keep being reincarnated?

[@hraza2222]

+Apfel kuchen3000 i also prefer to think they got together. I wish we saw more of that ending instead of that loser that keeps screaming in the classroom in the Otonashi president scene

[@FlashpointLPT]

Numair Javaid hahah you didn't quite understood why people go to the afterlife. You only go to the afterlife, when there was something in your life you couldn't do/fulfill and then you regret it. In that case you come to the afterlife, so you can accept what happened; therefore you don't regret it anymore and you'll be reincarnated to life. P.S. If you die having no regrets, you'll also , be reincarnated.

[@slaveinutopia]

i saw it as 13.5 was between the disappearance of kanade and ending of 13. cause it was the afterlife time flowed differently so kanade appeared before otonashi. so i thought it as otonashi stayed and helped people pass on and for some reason he passed on himself. then appeared in the same timeline as kanade

[@expchrist]

You are absolutely brilliant. How do you think so deeply about this stuff. Anyways I give your analysis a 10 out of 10.

[@celestialrainstorm]

bruh i remember watching the anime as a kid and watching this video at one point idk how long ago it was maybe around 4-5 years ago but damn i somehow remember the name of this channel when i am reminded of that theory of otonashi being the programmer but i cant remember 90% of the anime ive watched lmao