NFL Week 4 Preview Show

[@brianhenne6536]

Damn look at Steve already hitting on 2 of his 3 Prize Picks 👀 and that Kelce over would usually be a lock, gotta love that

[@mitchellty]

Missed you guys today. I lost my headphones so I had to be mentally present at work but I’ll be back in the mix on monday

[@jonlamenza4121]

As every Sunday passes tj watt builds on future hof credentials and at the same time some monstrously hyped dude in Dallas is non existent

[@Reno_56101]

This year's Viking team is not the same as last year's team. Flores has HIS players running the defense now. It's night and day compared to last year.

[@rndmlttrs]

I think the Vikings were among, if not THE most injured team by the end of last season.

[@Reno_56101]

@@rndmlttrs they were hurt and worn out

[@jbx30001]

Steve hit on his zeke and cd lamb bets, just needs kelce to get 45 or more receiving yards to finish!

[@tannercockerill8099]

Stone did handle Hutchinson pretty well last year if you go back to the tape

[@dwatland3712]

Week 17 the Vikings defense was missing very important players and the rookie 3rd team, 5th round draft pick (who was cut) was starting. The Bengals exposed the weaknesses in the defense and everyone copied that playbook the rest of the year. The Giants attempted the same playbook on opening day and they were blown out. Apples and oranges comparison is what you’re both cursed with.

[@liltopherrr]

I think people keep mischaracterizing the situation with Pittsburgh's offense. No one is really paying attention to the context here. I think their offense is due to get significantly better yet this year. Rewind to two years ago for a minute; what parts of this offense are the same as they are now? You have 4 new offensive line starters (counting the two players they're rotating at left guard), only Pickens remains from the receiver room, Najee Harris is still there, and that's it. you have a completely new receiver room, only Pickens and Austin remain from last year, you have a new offensive coordinator, new QB coach, and new receivers coach, all new this year. You have Dan Moore playing the best of his career, you have James Daniels grading as the best guard in the NFL I believe, and everyone else on the line is a rookie or second year player (at the moment), and things are still going pretty good there. Frazier and Daniels are powering a dominant interior, and they're still due to get their best lineman from last season back at the other guard spot any day now. They've just scratched the surface of this offensive install, all these new pieces only had the tiny modern training camp to come together, and it was in a situation where a different guy was expected to be starting at quarterback. The fact that this offense has been as successful as it's been these first few weeks is honestly very impressive. what happens when they actually finish this install? I think you have to expect something similar to the Arthur Smith Titans teams. Considering how quickly this has all been fashioned together, their early season success would seem to be indicative of much, much better things to come. And I haven't even mentioned yet that the guy leading the offense on the field has as high of a ceiling as anyone in the league as far as physical tools are concerned, and all the negatives that he displayed on a Chicago offense that was poorly coached and built on concepts that have aged out of the league are all the things he hasn't put on tape yet this year. Literally the only thing that has media people refusing to acknowledge this team as a contender this year is that the name "Justin Fields" has to be spoken in any segment that broaches the subject.

[@liltopherrr]

See and then you guys spend the pit/ind segment talking about how this Colts offense is close and could be very good, they just need more consistent play from their quarterback. There's just one problem with that, they're not starting a quarterback at quarterback. You know that trick play teams ran sometimes in like the 2000s where it was like a double reverse where the wide receiver throws a bomb to a deep cross? That's what the colts are starting at quarterback, they're starting that play manifested as the idea of a quarterback. Like it's genuinely crazy to be more convinced that what indy has going on will end up as a more legitimate offense this year than what Pittsburgh is doing. Love you guys, but damn. What are you looking at in that colts film. It's not good.

[@ХорхеГарсия-э5е]

"As successful as it has been" when they haven't scored more than 20 points in a single game and are averaging under 300 yards of total offense per game is not quite the flex you seem to think it is. I will believe you in assuming they can get better, but that's mostly because it's hard to get worse.

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

Squeelers are winning thanks to that Defense. O is shit and when they fall behind for the first time Justin Fields house of cards will come crashing down!

[@tommcdaniel9554]

The Lions depth is about to be tested.

[@SmashPhysical]

Don't mind them having two Monday night games, but do hate it when they show them both at once on a poor sort of split screen. Please, one game at a time. If I want to watch the other game, I'll go to it.

[@LateNightwithStudBuyers]

could also do without the other game's score being plastered on screen. if I don't want to know the score, I shouldn't be forced to spoil it

[@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel]

Goff has been in the league long enough to know he’s legit. Tua and Lawrence you cant say the same for.

[@ХорхеГарсия-э5е]

Yet we have not one (rookie season), not two (post SB appearence Rams season), but three (first season in Detroit) "Goff is probably not the guy" moments during his career. He has the "peaks" to show that with everything well he is somewhat worth it, but things tend to go bad when he is supposed to be a stalwart of your team instead of another cog in the machine. Ok, the fact that he is a veteran that you know can play if everything goes well is a plus, but I have also seen Lawrence and Tua play well when everything is clicking around them.

[@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel]

@@ХорхеГарсия-э5е Tua yes. Lawrences stats are similar/slightly worse than Daniel Jones since coming into the league. Goff is a winner. He wins games wherever he’s gone.

[@CAMERONMANNMUSIC]

Honestly there’s this idea that it’s not possible for the Vikings to be a good team. We will see what they say in February !! 😈

[@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC]

lol while u are using Ravens Flock devil emoji...pay attention buddy boi....GO PACK GO!!💪🏿💚💛 GO CELTICS!☘☘☘

[@robe2504]

Just a fact Steve and Sam. Steve is only interested in facts. Sam's 4th game the last time he started was week 16 in 2022. Sam's Panthers led the visiting Lions 31-7 with 9 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter. He destroyed the surging Lions who had just won 5 or 6 in a row. Remember when they finished that season 8-1? Darnold was the loss, and that game was pretty much over by half time. But sure, go ahead and wait one more week. I'm intrigued to see what you guys will come up with for week 5?

[@franco4922]

Josh Allen now has gone 5 games with no interceptions. Longest streak in NFL right now. At what point do we say he’s reversed his trend?

[@kodiak138]

He's playing great but 5 games split between 2 diff seasons doesn't offset 7 years. Lol

[@bob_ohms2low75]

You must be new here. The bills, & Allen do this every year. They look unbeatable for a stretch, & fall apart.

[@drcox012]

​@bob_ohms2low75 yeah I'm just waiting for their best players on defense to blow up in front of our eyes. By week 10 they'll be the same ol Bills.

[@Erik_Ice_Fang]

Even before Allen (who was a major upgrade), the Bills have typically been a better team 1st half of the season

[@ddjr64]

@@bob_ohms2low75Bills have been 3-0 only one time with JA17 and went on to the AFCCCG the same year

[@michaelehlert9]

Vikes D is not the same as last year my man. So many key additions. You can’t make that comparison. Same on offense. Missing QB latter half of season.

[@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC]

laugh out loud Vikings quarterback on pumpkin watch!

[@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC]

Spot on Mina Kimes and Michael Wilbon! my Ravens GOTTA attack middle of field...and we WILL! on top of the bully ball when need be...Lord Lamar Demeatrice Jackson and TE Mark mAndrews about to straight SNAP! Big Truzz! will win "convincingly!" 👿💪🏿✊🏿🙏🏿

[@bob_ohms2low75]

Keep sleeping on Lafluer 💚💛

[@romanhagedorn5667]

It's hard to compare last year's MN vs GB games when MN lost Cousins and started a 5th-round rookie against GB in the second match. MN offense couldn't sustain anything and kept the defense on the field most of the game.

[@Erik_Ice_Fang]

And the GB defense is looking noticeably better through the first 3 games as well. Both teams look improved considerably

[@romanhagedorn5667]

@@Erik_Ice_Fang I agree with that and think the switch to 4-3 was smart with their personnel. The only thing is every defense that played the titans has looked elite lol. With that said I think each week the packers defense will continue to get better in the new scheme.

[@subgenso6282]

I recommend you change the name of the show to "The ogre and the goblin"

[@jefferyferrera3873]

2nd and 3rd string players are pros also!!! Just like quarterbacks running backs and wide receivers

[@robe2504]

Vikes vs Packers. Was the Flores defence found out, or was it just exhausted and broken by week 17 after having to carry a dysfunctional offence behind back up QBs? Maybe being down to their last two Edge Rushers, Hunter and Pat Jones, didn't help either. Focussing on the defensive side of the ball might be an error. In week 8 at Lambeau, with a healthy Kirk, but no Jefferson, the Vikes offence dominated the Packers D. The 24-10 score flatters the Packers, and hides a bad FG miss, and blocked FG, and the aborted drive that was in scoring position when Cousins went down. In the rematch at USB, the Vikes offence was led by struggling rookie QB Jaren Hall who basically handed over the game in the first half. You can put that on the QB, more than the defence. I think the week 17 game is a red herring - and this game will look more like the week 8 encounter, but just be aware, Darnold is arguably playing better than Kirk ever did, and has much more versatility than Kirk. Do not underestimate him as a runner. Also consider that the Vikes roster is better and deeper on both sides of the ball that it was for that week 8 game last season. There is no reason why Flores can't put Love or Willis in that same purple haze blender that he used on Stroud and Purdy. And the Packers D may practice against a deep crew of WR2s and WR3s every day - but they might notice a difference coming up against two legit WR1s. I don't think this game will be close, and might nearly end Packers dreams of a division title with the Texans, 49ers, Saints and 5 tough division games still on the slate.

[@s.williamc.]

Go Hawks!!

[@kevingrams3809]

Steve with a -2 for Monday

[@585_Mar]

Keep overlooking Wandale

[@jaredpribyl]

No clue how anyone would pick the Packers, Vikings are ROLLING

[@oneputt4152]

they will also split their games every year, whoever wins this weekend will lose in MN. if packers ever have a lead they will win, if not vikings win

[@SkipBaylessdaGOAT]

Just a friendly reminder. Jets Bucs superbowl ya heard it first

[@jonathanstewart4800]

#TITANUP

[@AshwaniKaul-q9d]

Josh Allen haters does monsoon hate a guy more than Allen? He’s broken his brain this year

[@Zen_Ronin]

The Rams "a missed fieldgoal from being 0-3" yeah, ok sure. But they are also a coin toss away from being 2-1.

[@DAKreates]

If you do the hypothetical you gotta do both which would still put at 1-2

[@JacobKaufmanMN]

Mn vs Gb last year... cousins .. no cousins

[@mikem8808]

Oops, hit the button to quickly. Should have read WHO do an average job - NOT - OR do an average job. Sorry!

[@MarkSalerno-v5s]

Steve just refuses to pick the Steelers. If he does have positive things to say about them it usually ends up with sarcasm.

[@585_Mar]

Cowboys absolutely destroy my giants tonight but will they

[@davidbresson8865]

1:33:44 no surprise cheese? Disappointed!

[@cassiboi1423]

Hawk 15:10

[@nebtalks]

We need you guys back at PFF… their Scouting has gotten extremely LAZY!!!!

[@matterman2003]

When does Mahomes start being called a Turnover Machine? In the last 12 games, Mahomes has 17 TDs to 12 INTS while Allen has 34 TDs to 11 INTs over that time. So who is the less productive player and more turnover prone player? Why does Mahomes constantly get free passes for poor play?

[@blahblah14722]

Mahomes: career 67 picks and 36 fumbles Allen: career 78 picks and 61 fumbles 11 more picks with an extra year starting over Mahomes isn't that crazy but 25 more fumbles is fucking insane lol just give up bro

[@blahblah14722]

Omg I just looked it up and I was mistaken, Mahomes actually has MORE games played than Josh Allen, because they both started 2018 but Mahomes played 16 games that year and Allen only played 12 lololol

[@renehernandez6562]

And Mahomes tds are lot of dump offs/ shuffles. His 2022 season, he shamelessly padded 1 to 2 yard tds.

[@LateNightwithStudBuyers]

​@@renehernandez6562shamelessly! won't someone think of the stats!!

[@davidmc8475]

“Why does Mahomes constantly get free passes on poor play?” Because he leads his team to Super Bowl wins and lifts the Lombardi trophy. Not a Chiefs fan but if Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson can not win the Super Bowl they will be looked at like Jim Kelly or Dan Marino - good but not good enough.

[@brianhenne6536]

Is Nick Wright really one of the good ones on the shouty shows? Lol idk every time I've seen about him he just seems like a clown Chiefs homer

[@jaredpribyl]

So Darnold is a pumpkin if he has a bad game? Mahomes has had a couple bad games…is he a pumpkin now?

[@Bl00dwerK]

Surely you don’t think those two things are even remotely the same…

[@jaredpribyl]

@@Bl00dwerK I didn’t say they were the same player. But everyone else gets a pass for a bad game but Darnold can’t or else he’s a pumpkin…why would Darnold have to be held to a higher standard? Darnold hasn’t had a bad game yet anyway, just find it funny how inconsistent people are.

[@tjsumigray22]

Sam: why do you consistently ROOT for the Bills and Packers to fail?? It's almost like you're a rugby analyst and know JACK💩 about football!

[@mikem8808]

Steve you are simply NOT that smart of a guy. You sound like the type of guy that if the sign on the door says PUSH to Open, you would counter by saying I DO NOT CARE I AM GOING TO PULL, LOL!!! That is Dumb!! This years defense has SEVEN NEW STARTERS, 7!!!! These 7 new starters were purposely saught out to FIT Flores scheme. Last year the vikings ONLY had Mr. Hunter as a top/good pass rusher. This year they have MULTIPLE!!!!! Also, there is even a HIGHER number of NEW backup players on defense. Again, all designed to bring in and also keep the players that are the BEST FIT for his scheme - This is HUGE!!! This is a NEW DEFENSIVE TEAM! In the 1st meeting the vikings had Kirk. In the 2nd meeting aaaahhhh I believe it was Hall, but it doesn't matter because it wasn't Kirk. Also, it is my understanding (not factually checked) that on a few series to start the game or over the course of the game the packers were starting off on the vikings side of the field. With Kirk this probably does not happen. IFFF the vikings could NOT compete on the offensive side of the ball, OMG, guess what, spoiler alert????? That will NEGATIVELY IMPACT the defensive side of the ball, don't ya think. Mr. Analyst! Does the factual information that I have provided mean that automatically the vikings will win or blowout the packers? No it does NOT! However, when Analyzing ANY PROBLEM/SITUATION you MUST consider/review ALL the Facts/Information. IF you fail to process ALL of the Facts then there is a MUCH HIGHER likelihood that you are going to Fail in your final conclusion. IFFF you had made the final conclusion by stating yes you understand that the vikings defensively are basically a New team, however, you simply believe/feel that the packers are going to handle the vikings pressure defense. Ok, I could accept your opinion. However, you alluded to the manner in which the packers beat down the vikings defense in their 2nd meeting last year as the REASON you are picking the packers to win on sunday! My mama always says Stupid is what Stupid does, lol. If the shoe fits wear it Mr. Steve! You are like many people within the media world or do an average job. I personally do Not do average, ok, or halfass. In running a business for over 33 yrs. I am extremely Detailed. The More Detailed you are in doing your job/living life the More Successful you will be. DETAILS, DETAILS, DETAILS, this is a Fact!

[@00711shadow]

SEA!!!HAWKS!!!