NFL Week 9 MNF Instant Reaction: Tampa Bay Bucs vs Kansas City Chiefs

[@theenugyt]

Style points don’t mean squat. Wins are all that matter.

[@jubelraye3782]

Chiefs are just playing with their food until the playoffs.

[@dfp_01]

I don't think the Bucs made a mistake kicking the extra point after their final touchdown. Let's run through what happens if they go for 2 instead: If they fail (~40-50% chance, maybe slightly more with a motivated Chiefs D), they have to recover an onside kick (less than 10%), drive down against the Chiefs' vaunted defense, and kick a field goal with 27 seconds and 0 timeouts. Doable, but _highly_ improbable, and the chance of failing just one of those steps and losing is high. If they succeed (50-60% chance), the Chiefs get the ball back with 27 seconds and 3 timeouts, as they did following the extra point. With the game actually on the line instead of just the possibility of overtime, their playcalling would be less conservative and the chances they'd kick that field goal in the waning seconds and win are pretty damn high despite the weather. Instead, by forcing overtime, they get 9½ more minutes, 2 more timeouts, and a fresh coin toss that might deliver them the opening possession. Even if it doesn't (and it didn't), you give your defense more of a chance to force a punt or field goal and give the offense the ball back.

[@p0mp3y73]

Tldr

[@jamesmorseman3180]

Ya no, they 1000% should’ve went for 2. Completely stupid decision and your attempt of justifying it is not very good

[@MrDavidknigge]

I fully agree with your take, except for this: Making a 2 point conversion in any circumstances is under 40% and against Chris Jones and Spags, it is less than that. Bowles showed confidence in his team by not taking this risky gamble. After all they played even with the Chiefs up until then and they had a 50% chance of winning the coin flip.

[@LL-wz7je]

It’s easy to sit there and say they need to go for 2 but the Chiefs defense has been great on the goal line.

[@anurag123B]

I agree! 13 sec vs Bills is legendary

[@meir4586]

So face one of the best defenses in the league or the best quarterback maybe ever in OT.

[@jamesmorseman3180]

Ah yes so then it’s way easier to drive 70 yards then! You sound like Todd Bowles lmao

[@KCVillains]

Everyone is saying he should’ve went for 2. It’s a lose lose situation. If you goes for 2 and get it Mahomes has 30 seconds to go 40 yards with 3 timeouts to get in Butker’s range. He only needed 13 vs the Bills! So the choice was hope you could keep the Chiefs with Mahomes from getting those 40 yards or hoping you could win a coin flip. The coin flip sounds like a better bet to me!

[@subgenso6282]

Should have gone for 2 Mahomes is death if he gets the ball

[@KCVillains]

It’s a lose lose situation. If you go for 2 and get it Mahomes has 30 seconds to go 40 yards with 3 timeouts to get in Butker’s range. He only needed 13 vs the Bills!

[@AFRO2125]

No they won’t. I’m a huge Chiefs fan and have been since 1992. Reid will sit players in the last game of year. They only care about a 3 peat. If they go undefeated in the regular season and Mahomes gets hurt in the last game, then what does it matter.

[@georgewoolf6300]

Andy will absolutly sit players the last game if KC has the #1 seed.

[@bradasskg11]

I believe in wentz to get us undefeated if we need it. Reid will sit all starters but will still gameplan something fun so wentz can maybe show himself off lol it’ll be fun honestly

[@jlsajulan]

After watching multiple goal line stands against the raiders on film Todd was thinking he didn’t want to try it

[@mizzou19]

Bowles wouldn’t have had the chance to go for 2 if Andy hadn’t been overly-conservative on the drive prior. 2.5 minutes left in the game-Chiefs up by 7-and Andy predictably takes the ball away out Pat’s hands. They punt immediately. Saw that coming from a mile away bc that’s who Andy is (at least in the regular season).

[@jermaine6848]

He won’t put anything on tape he dosent have too. Took me 2years to cope with it but it’s good for the team as long as they are winning.

[@KemTitan]

@@jermaine6848It’s hard to watch when you know that is about to happen but you are right

[@MrDavidknigge]

I thought Andy being conservative there was uncharacteristic. Usually he will risk passing to get the first down and I'm disappointed he didn't.

[@francisdasta8646]

The Chiefs have really missed Rashee Rice. I thought Mahomes looked pretty good and I think DeAndre Hopkins is looking like a good pick up. It's funny how so many teams rack up injuries and they have trouble overcoming them. The Chiefs have done a good job with finding personnel that can help them. Hell they dragged dragged Kareem Hunt off the couch

[@CheckTheMic]

Do you think the 8-0 Chiefs will finish the regular season unbeaten?

[@davidquirk101]

No. They aren’t even halfway done and have had many close calls

[@LucasSChiefsLightning]

As a Chiefs fan, I hope not. I don't want any additional pressure on them heading into the playoffs. 16-1 is fine by me though.

[@georgewoolf6300]

No, the modern NFL season at 17 games makes an undefeated almost impossible, and KC has had too many injuries this year, but I think they are in goos position for the AFC #1 seed with a 15-2 or 14-3 record.

[@stevenh3508]

No, once the #1 seed is locked they will sit their starters.

[@jubelraye3782]

No, the Chiefs have already won 14 in a row, the three peat is more important. Undefeated plus a three-peat would put them in a stratosphere far above the 72 Dolphins

[@harmon7896]

If d-hop and kelce stay healthy the rest of the year. 3peat baby

[@ParkerBG]

The Bucs weren’t gonna win if they converted the 2-point conversion 😂 KC had their timeouts and almost 30 seconds remaining.

[@wiredsparx]

It’s easy to sit there and analyze going for two after the fact. If the Bucs would’ve gone for it and not made it, then you would be asking why not trust in your team in overtime?

[@neonwhitea.1548]

No these guys are consistent on this view

[@jamesmorseman3180]

Literally everyone and their mothers know that going for 2 was the correct play there. Only person who didn’t was Todd Bowles

[@Bl00dwerK]

You're 4-4, chasing the Falcons, and you choose to take your chances in OT? With the Chiefs? I'm w/the boys here. Go for two and deal w/the fallout, if need be...

[@homelesskidsrescuenetwork4746]

Remember that Worthy is a rookie

[@ThisGuyDrives]

I love seeing the constant crying and double standard for penalties when it comes to the Chiefs. It's never a problem when it's YOUR team, right children?

[@manfrombc5162]

Bucs played not to lose the whole game (4th downs and the lack of 2 point attempt), they didn't deserved to win.

[@MaxJames-bv7qh]

They would not have won, first off they would have had to get the 2, the chiefs would not have punted on 4th and 1

[@jubelraye3782]

Facts, Chiefs would have approached it differently and likely an easy Butker field goal.

[@angelmanfredy]

100%

[@danielrichwine2268]

The eagles coach gets tons of grief for properly. Tried to maximize points, but the buccaneers decision to not go for two at the end was 10 times worse than any decision siriani made

[@jermaine6848]

Siriani is trash dnt know what you’re saying. N how he got in the subject

[@DrButsie]

Ot really needs to be changed

[@MaxJames-bv7qh]

Chiefs didn’t have Brown, JUJU, Pacheco or Rice and all we hear is wow the Bucs have 3 people hurt, how unfair. The broadcast didn’t now you guys are doing it. Very silly. Also Hardmen and Mahomes were injured durring the game

[@MaxJames-bv7qh]

Did it all game*

[@p0mp3y73]

sillE

[@mijwil]

Fair. But chiefs still have DHop and Kelsey. What’s the comparison? Shepherd and Otton? Bucks had a better backfield available, but I happen to be someone that thought Cleveland was nuts for letting Hunt go. Bakers #3 receiver, #3 which became his 1, he found out in the locker room he wasn’t going. Anyway, the impact of the injuries on that game favored the Chiefs IMO. Didn’t matter. Pat is Pat and he doesn’t lose games like this.

[@royeveritt2778]

Plus all of the Chiefs defensive players that are out too.

[@mijwil]

@@royeveritt2778 I think if you look at starters, the amount out on D was probably similar. Bucs had starters out on D. Really doesn’t matter. Chiefs were home and are a better team. Win close, win a blowout. Makes no difference. They’re undefeated and motivated. Going to be really difficult to get by them if they get #1 seed.

[@edwardoorjitham7714]

They burned Hayes all night ..

[@MaxJames-bv7qh]

Rooney rule def hurts a lot of teams tho

[@jermaine6848]

Your racism it showing. 🤡

[@jamesmorseman3180]

@@jermaine6848the Rooney rule is indeed racist thank you for pointing that out

[@MaxJames-bv7qh]

Projection, nice. Hiring based on anything but competence ensures the competence will be lower.

[@jamesmorseman3180]

@@jermaine6848 thank you for pointing out that the Rooney rule is indeed racist thank you